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[Ythan]

I'm not trying to role fish if that's what you're getting at?

Then idk what to say in response to your question.

[brighteningskies]

I'm not trying to role fish if that's what you're getting at?

Then idk what to say in response to your question.

Did you ignore the rest of what I said?? What are you understanding from what he said? Or what context clues are there in what he said that I can use to understand? Multiple ways you can answer.

For all I know what he said says more about Reck than it does about him, which is why I was asking.

[Ythan]

I think based on VP's post it's clear he would have said more if he wanted to. Maybe he'll elaborate when he gets here. I don't feel it's my place to do it for him though. Sorry to leave you hanging.

[VP Baltar]

I mean, I can elaborate, but it's not going to help us find scum. The point isn't to be alienating skies, it is to reveal as little information as possible for scum. If I had been playing better, I wouldn't have revealed what I did, but seemed to run counter to reck's posts, so I thought I should put it out.


More importantly, skies if you had to guess the whole scum team right now, who would it be?

[xRECKONERx]

yeah there wasn't a reason for you to out unfortunately since we already had confirmation on the block :\

[xRECKONERx]

this is gonna be lylo tomorrow and for what it's worth im so fucking glad i wont be part of it bc i suck shit in lylo

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean if I'm wrong then I'm sorry, but look at this from my perspective

with the information I have and the way the beginning of today shook out... you'd want to vote you too

like.... seriously no one has any explanation why I'd see reck as having visited two players.....?

it occurs to me that given the theme of the game that like.... MAYBE I could see some kind of "infection" mechanic where "contact tracing" fucks with tracker/watcher roles, but there's nothing in my role PM that suggests that it works that way and no one has brought forward any information to suggest that it might

this sucks!

[VP Baltar]

Reck, what made you switch from noraa to skies?

[Untrod Tripod]

I mean, I'm twisting myself into knots here to try to justify why me tracking a player to the dead body and then catching them in two lies shouldn't just be an immediate windmill slam yeet.

would I be doing this if reck and I weren't good friends IRL? would I be doing it if we hadn't misyeeted twice in a row?

my misgivings about this are 100% about external factors. the facts as I have them are pretty damning.

[Noraa]

Ah shit I didn't check this game. I think I missed a few pages or something. I'll catch up tmrw and I'll think about this game a bit tmrw morning and we'll see what I come up with

[xRECKONERx]

Reck, what made you switch from noraa to skies?

skies general absence from the thread, the fact that my entire case on noraa is based on her pushing me for shitty reasons early on which doesn't really hold up now that we have all this info on the table
skies swap off of noraa onto tn was weird and unexplained
like while voting tn he's pushing back on ythan for wanting to yeet noraa which seemed odd

im trying to reread shit from the end of y/day while also figuring out what's going on today

[xRECKONERx]

I mean if I'm wrong then I'm sorry, but look at this from my perspective

with the information I have and the way the beginning of today shook out... you'd want to vote you too

like.... seriously no one has any explanation why I'd see reck as having visited two players.....?

it occurs to me that given the theme of the game that like.... MAYBE I could see some kind of "infection" mechanic where "contact tracing" fucks with tracker/watcher roles, but there's nothing in my role PM that suggests that it works that way and no one has brought forward any information to suggest that it might

this sucks!

I mean, I'm twisting myself into knots here to try to justify why me tracking a player to the dead body and then catching them in two lies shouldn't just be an immediate windmill slam yeet.

would I be doing this if reck and I weren't good friends IRL? would I be doing it if we hadn't misyeeted twice in a row?

my misgivings about this are 100% about external factors. the facts as I have them are pretty damning.

i mean i would be voting me too, that's why i'm not fighting it. but it's also why i was pushing for more claims cuz the manipulator role is hiding somewhere and i want as much concrete shit before i eat dirt so yall dont fuck this up in lylo which looks almost like a certainty at this point unless you get a lucky track overnight

but uh i guess there's no point in not claiming anymore since we've agreed on this.

I'm Covid Nose Sunny, and my role pic is the picture of Sunny with the fly/covid/whatever on his face

flavor says i can send the covid fly it to another player to distract (block) another person

i have more shots in my RB ability which is why i didn't wanna claim but since i'm dead soon anyways, i was 3-shot

[Ythan]

like while voting tn he's pushing back on ythan for wanting to yeet noraa which seemed odd

Especially considering I resisted the proposed Nora yeet the entire time and never voted for her.

[brighteningskies]

That makes sense then y'all thanks for elaborating on your reasonings.

I thought it was Ythan who wanted to yeet Noraa because of poor reading comprehension ngl I confused him with another player, I can understand why it looked bad though.

And I already explained my reasons for voting tn instead of Noraa - I thought tn was acting more immediately anti-town/scummy than her.

[duppin]

skies I think my main concern regarding your vote hopping is that to me it felt like you were trying to justify all of your votes rather than trying to figure out the alignment of the slots. I think that is more likely to come from a scum mindset.
There is a I suppose lack of direction from you, you never questioned any of the wagons but just accepted them since they were the leading wagons. I don't think you have been very proactive this game at all, do you disagree with that?

Everyone knows who we are yeeting today, but if we ignore his slot for now do you have any scum reads at the moment?

[VP Baltar]

More importantly, skies if you had to guess the whole scum team right now, who would it be?

[duppin]

VP for the record you do confirm that you tried to visit reck n1 right?

[VP Baltar]

VP for the record you do confirm that you tried to visit reck n1 right?

Yep

[Untrod Tripod]

you know what else might explain Reck not knowing who he targeted N1

if it's a situation like in a scum PT people are submitting actions for the whole scum team and Reck didn't realize that the final version of the scum action plan wasn't the one he thought it was

I also want to understand something else:

VP targets Reck with (presumably a friendly neighbor)
I target Reck with a track
Ythan targets Reck with what I assume is a fruit vendor
Reck blocks me
Annie swaps Haschel and Reck

is this what the claims are?

[duppin]

Okay good, that makes me believe that the busdriver claim (reck>herschel) is probably true, in which case we know that at least Ythan tried to visit reck n1 as well. Herschel claims he targeted him as well but no way to really confirm that.
Point is though if reck does flip scum then we we know that Ythan tried to visit him n1. I mean I still don't know exactly what Ythan is claiming to be but just wondering whether it would make sense for him to visit a partner in that case. I'm leaning more towards it not making sense at this point but I don't know.

[duppin]

you know what else might explain Reck not knowing who he targeted N1

if it's a situation like in a scum PT people are submitting actions for the whole scum team and Reck didn't realize that the final version of the scum action plan wasn't the one he thought it was

I also want to understand something else:

VP targets Reck with (presumably a friendly neighbor)
I target Reck with a track
Ythan targets Reck with what I assume is a fruit vendor
Reck blocks me
Annie swaps Haschel and Reck

is this what the claims are?

Herschel claims he targeted reck n1 as well

[duppin]

VP > reck (confirmed town info)
Ythan > reck (the mask item?)
haschel > reck (no idea, but he said he knew he targeted himself)

annie > swap reck with haschel

[VP Baltar]

That is my understanding as well.

UT, I definitely think you shouldn't worry here. There is only a very small chance Reck is town here, and we'd have to yeet him before end game anyway

[Noraa]

Alright, Noraa, thoughts on Brightskies's last few posts?

Question coming for Brightskies after Noraa answers.

I never liked the SR from that slot on me. It felt pretty sheepy and like they just tried to re-word everyone else's responses to justify jumping on the biggest wagon. Then jumping onto the tn wagon which was getting attention pretty quickly was also very sheepy and not justified well or at all imo. Idk sheepy and flip floppy are generally pretty big scum tells but I understand that since bright is a newbie, a lot of stuff doesn't really apply too hot...

[xRECKONERx]

you know what else might explain Reck not knowing who he targeted N1

if it's a situation like in a scum PT people are submitting actions for the whole scum team and Reck didn't realize that the final version of the scum action plan wasn't the one he thought it was

literally impossible

21.

All night actions MUST be submitted via Private Message. Submissions over Skype, Discord, PT, or any other method will not be accepted.

d3f quoted this rule at me when i tried to DM him my action on discord. scum therefore can't submit via PT either.