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In post 965, Gypyx wrote:What's the case on SKYEscrapers apart from them not liking my behaviour at the first deadline? I don't think i've seen anything else

SKYEscrapers was a three-headed hydra.
One head hasn't played the game at all.
Aristophanes has played the game, very very briefly, but is not being actively gamesolvey and is largely absent.
The hydra has allegedly done scumhunting behind closed doors, but the proof/evidence of it in this thread is basically nonexistent, with several of the things having had no reason to be kept in private if they were town.
Ari is playing exactly like I would expect from him as scum by and large; there's no whimsy to his posts, there's no lightheartedness, there's also no strong solving from him--the suspicions he has presented have had very very flawed, self-evidently wrong logic to them, such as the misrepresentation of your play that anyone actually looking at the play in question can tell is disingenuous as fuck of a representation of those events.
tris has herself been, overall, suspicious as well.

I'm not saying that they're 100% completely all scum. They do have townier moments, both from tris and Ari.

But given that this game is easily poe'd and that there's two scum in three names, and SKYEscrapers is one of the three possible scum? The fact that they have barely any town indicators, but many fairly strong scum indicators, means that in the balance of probability, they're probably scum.

In post 974, Akarin wrote:Mastina, is your TGP townread just as solid as it was last time you mentioned it?

Yes. They have felt solidly town to me the whole game, and their thought process and such feels very town, with me able to follow the reasons and conclusions, and largely agreeing with a lot of them and understanding where they are coming from even with the ones I know/think to be wrong. (e.g. their doubt of my townness.)

TGP has just seemed like a beacon of towniness this game, and I don't see anything to make me doubt that.

Alright alright, I've logged in via mobile

I hate seitching accounts here. I see people want active shit from me, so here I am. I can't promise *goodposts* by the deadline of 2pm tkmorrow or w/e as I was going to go to bed right now and work tomorrow, but I'll do what I can.

Btw that's ari if it wasn't already clear.

I mean there are 4 and a bit pages in D2 and literally a quarter of the psts are from this hydra. Why is there whining about our activity levels?

Whatever tho. What would people like me to respond to? I'm not seeing much questions-wise but I'll look more closely since I've mostly skimmed the thread lately.

Mastina, which 3 slots are being PoE'd atm?

Nvm I found it.

In post 892, mastina wrote:When it comes to this game, I legit think that it's a poe win--you're town; I'm town; Gypyx is town; TheGoldenParadox is town. That's 4/7 of the living players, which means that there's two scum in three names--SKYEscrapers, DoubtingThomas, and Dunnstral.

I mean, this is a false dichotomy and that's kind of unnerving. Youre setting up people to be limmed and basically have made a list that can carry potential mislims to a literal endgame state. Get one, "oops that was town the other two are confscum" at 5p, get another, leaving a 2:1 scum majority and win. If you are scum taking control this is a great strat but we should deeeeefinitely be wary of it.

I'll look at the other two slots, especially since I've forgotten most of my reads this game while I was away, but it feels really off.

Also what, you townread the whole "fake deadline" crew? For what reason!? There *has* to be scum there imo.

Fyi Summer has legit been absent from pregame and warned us that might happen. She is very busy and while this was going to be a step into the world of mafia for her the timing just isn't right.

As for me, I'm overgamed, it's busy season at work, and I have essays n shit due at school which are all taking my time away from this. I'm honestly trying to be here. This is just to say that the activity tells are based on things you aren't seeing and are thus somewhat invalid.

In post 957, mastina wrote:

In post 952, SKYEscrapers wrote:well, it's effectively a two person hydra. summer has just not been here.

Hot take: Summer basically flaked from the hydra due to the hydra being scum, and the work being done behind the scenes rather than openly out here in the thread is also a consequence of that alignment.

Summer not being here is entirely NAI and this argument is shading dkne quite well.

The activity behind the scenes and bot in thread is literally because I hate switching accounts on mobile. My other posts, with I think 1 exception, were all done at a computer sk I can use a different browser. Thats it. That's the reason. Very scummy for sure lol

Ya okay Dunn is town.

I forgot about the 10% chance of scum thing on them, so having them in the PoE scumpool is even more dastardly tbh. Seriously mastina these miscalculations and shading are reinvigorating a scumread on you that I forgot I was developing lol

DT's Isi is almost impossible to parse on mobile because of long-ass quote chains but every time I read a post it seems to be a theory lecture and not a scumhunt. They would be the scum within mastina's PoE if they went the route of "lets put a scum in to seem genuine." And DT mentioned himself that he's never eating rope today within this pool, so its a non-issue if he is a scumbuddy anyway.

And with that, I'm drained. Probably no more goodposting from me until Monday. If this can be called goodposting. It's the effort I can give atm. Sorry for the multiposting. I hate the style. But it was what was right for the moment.

Thank you Ari.

I appreciate it.

So the thing I wanted to ask about Mastina, and I know she'll say she absolutely would but is town anyway, so I'll take that as given Mastina.

But do you, Ari, think scum!Mastina is afraid of MathBlade enough to pick him for the kill. Because Math and my arguing was pretty anti-town IMO and I was worrying about it over the night. And if Math had been in the game today it would have sapped the life out of the game even worse than the posting drought I think, so to me there's significant reason to leave him alive.

Tris and Dunn, interested in your thoughts on that too.

In post 987, Akarin wrote:Thank you Ari.

I appreciate it.

NP, sorry I couldn't do more for you.

In post 988, Akarin wrote:So the thing I wanted to ask about Mastina, and I know she'll say she absolutely would but is town anyway, so I'll take that as given Mastina.

But do you, Ari, think scum!Mastina is afraid of MathBlade enough to pick him for the kill. Because Math and my arguing was pretty anti-town IMO and I was worrying about it over the night. And if Math had been in the game today it would have sapped the life out of the game even worse than the posting drought I think, so to me there's significant reason to leave him alive.

i thjnk MathBlade was obvtowning and having them in that role would have been bad for any scumteam. I haven't looked at mastina/Math interactions but they are a very good player when they are given the right game and I think this was one whrere they would have shone. Of the playerlist I assume mastina has the most experience with them and thus they would know this. Mastina limming them is totally possible.

Also it seems like mastina is taking the reins on the game. Could they have dome this with MathBlade here? I have my doubts.

- Ari

I agree Math was pretty clearly town, but his reads weren't great and he was absolutely killing my desire to engage with the game, like at all.

Mastina was his like 3rd or 4th scum pick I think, so he may have reevaluated onto her, but I also think leaving both him and me alive would have been good for making no one care about the game at all.

I really haven't perceived Mastina as really running the game btw.

She makes long posts but I don't think people are especially taking her word as gospel.

Akarin wrote:I agree Math was pretty clearly town, but his reads weren't great and he was absolutely killing my desire to engage with the game, like at all.

Mastina was his like 3rd or 4th scum pick I think, so he may have reevaluated onto her, but I also think leaving both him and me alive would have been good for making no one care about the game at all.

*looks at activity levels*

Mission accomplished?

In post 992, Akarin wrote:I really haven't perceived Mastina as really running the game btw.

She makes long posts but I don't think people are especially taking her word as gospel.

Ya you might be right. She just seems to be trying to have a really commanding presence despite not having good takes or backing for them.

lol, yeah.

Mostly it's that I wanted to see how you reacted to Mastina and see how Mastina reacted to your reacting and that was just never happening all day.

Got to find time to read those Gypyx games because I don't trust my original sort as much as I used to but I don't really know what's going on there.

Don't understand Mastina's hard townread of TGP at all, how do you feel about that by the way?

In post 966, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 953, SKYEscrapers wrote:

In post 939, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not up for voting Skye. I scumread DoubtingThomas but t hey're less likely than mastina

what changed?

The Empress

What changed from where

DT? Their votes are really bad

can you elaborate on what makes my votes bad?

In post 346, TheGoldenParadox wrote:

In post 345, DoubtingThomas wrote:did you answer the question i asked where my posts gave you town ping despite you describing it as unproductive, bad, etc whatever

me?

In post 364, TheGoldenParadox wrote:yeah
it's unproductive and probably inaccurate
but it's not the kind of thing i see scum doing

also don't see scum making 317 (although it's gross and you should be ashamed of yourself) and generally playing as you have; you seem genuine and bold.

In post 365, TheGoldenParadox wrote:^sorry that was a reply to 349

In post 937, TheGoldenParadox wrote:apologies that wasn't supposed to be a protege i'm just so ridiculously lost on what to think after those flips.

i plan to treat dunnstral as town, because by and large the biggest factors of my scumread on them came from their interactions with nic and i am nowhere near confident enough in my scumread to override the overwhelming mechanical evidence of them being town. that being said, they are playing scummily.

i still townread mastina, although to a lesser extent than i did yesterday (i'm much more open to the possibility of her simply having pocketed me d1.) also townleaning on akarin, and i would prefer to not get either of them today.

gypyx radiates town energy to me, and if that slot is scum i'll be extremely surprised, so avoiding that as well.

so we're left with {skye, DT}, the latter of which is pretty null but looking worse and worse. that being said, skye has seemed off to me, especially the entire three-person hydra's drop in activity and general... off play, so i'm good with VOTE: skye today.

I am not sure how you can change your read on me, especially given that you haven't mentioned me at all in your posts after you made the post explaining your town read on me. @TGP

In post 989, Akarin wrote:Tris and Dunn, interested in your thoughts on that too.

Do I think Mastina nightkills Math? Yes, I do, though I'm not saying they are more likely because Math died

In post 996, DoubtingThomas wrote:

In post 966, Dunnstral wrote:

In post 953, SKYEscrapers wrote:

In post 939, Dunnstral wrote:I'm not up for voting Skye. I scumread DoubtingThomas but t hey're less likely than mastina

what changed?

The Empress

What changed from where

DT? Their votes are really bad

can you elaborate on what makes my votes bad?

Because it's on flipped town yesterday, and you were also considering me, and now you're going against what I believe is a scum wagon