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Council Vote

• Flea The Magician [3]:
  MURDERCAT, Gamma Emerald, Infinity 324
  
• MURDERCAT [1]:
  Infinity 324
  
• Infinity 324 [3]:
  Purple Heart, Infinity 324, Gamma Emerald
  
• tracy flick [1]:
  tracy flick
  
• kookiemonster [3]:
  kookiemonster, Infinity 324, Purple Heart
  
• Uncrowned [0]:
  
  
• Purple Heart [2]:
  Infinity 324, Purple Heart
  
• Gamma Emerald [1]:
  Gamma Emerald
  
• OutWorldER [1]:
  OutWorldER

Expel Vote

• OutWorldER [1]:
  Gamma Emerald
  
• Not Voting [8]:
  Flea the Magician, tracy flick, Infinity 324, MURDERCAT, Uncrowned, OutWorldER, Purple Heart, kookiemonster

Student Talk

• Someone drops a quill in the library. The librarian shushes them.
  
• A professor creates a
  Joint Mod ISO
  for the class.

In post 953, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 628, OutWorldER wrote:probably myself, MC, uncrowned.

In post 898, Flea The Magician wrote:HEAL: Murdercat - HEAL: Gamma - I am more than happy with this at this time.

In post 656, Gamma Emerald wrote:probably a town mindset (for MCat specifically)

I don't have a completed scum game in 4 years so I know no one has enough meta on me for this and the person I trust most to read me in this game is null/scum leaning me.

Posts like this are why I’m not full-on scumreading murder. He seems naturally self-aware.

PEdit: murder those reasons seem weak :/

I think saying “I have a tell but I’m not saying it yet because I want to see if it will keep up” can definitely be a way to LAMIST. I also think tunneling is pretty easy to fake.

In post 975, Kanna wrote:ah!

*watches Kanna crash into a tree*
Kanna are you ok O_o
*pulls Kanna up*
Trees are dangerous <.<

-nornor

In post 653, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 637, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 634, Purple Heart wrote:Why are you suspicious of Murder?

He’s a lot less proactive than when I played with him as town before, and it feels like he’s trying to buddy me (whereas normally when we’re both town, it’s the other way around lol)

I think I probably won't be able to find you if you are scum so i decided to just act as if you are town. It gives me a starting point for the day at least

I think you’re opting not to go deeper on something you very much could rn, and it’s probably towny that you are. I think it could be exploitable if you’re scum?

In post 566, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 562, Infinity 324 wrote:I do think I’ve been a bit lazy with this game today and I want to re-evaluate a bit. I have only played with town noraa once before, but I keep getting worried since she looks so towny here and normally doesn’t as town lol. I would like alisae to go into depth on a read because he has trouble faking depth as scum iirc.

I actually think her scumread our slot is fine. I don't think anything me and Taly can pump out right away will invalidate her read on koba.

I think the biggest difference between town!noraa and scum!noraa is I feel like scum!noraa will want to paint our slot scummy using whatever means possible and saying I'm overeacting does that. I think to noraa saying that me overeacting is scummy allows her to maintain an ironclad reason to scumread me. If she was town, why would she continue pressing me for overeacting when I told her that I act like this all of the time? This doesn't make sense to me.

In post 574, Purple Heart wrote:Infinity truth is, I panic a lot when I get scumread as both alignments I can give you links but tbh I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two at a point.
atm I have no idea what's going on.

Like in my rant to taly I literally posted this before I started posting again in thread

Yo I actually have no idea what the fuck is happening in this game anymore tbh
Is it infinity who is pushing me for his 503 because that’s not how scum actually act and for every scum player who acts that way a town player can also act that way
Is it noraa for calling my playstyle scummy when she literally replaced into a town slot I was in where I was doing the exact same things?
Is it flea or Overworld for just being non-contributors and letting town kill itself?
Is it that one dude who wrote 420 for TMIing us town?

Like I honestly just have no idea whats going on atm so please be patient for me. As of writing this I think its noraa because calling me scum for overeacting just seems way too unnatural for it to be town.

Ok I got some paranoia on purple last night because of this. I mentioned that alisae difficulty faking nuance as scum, which is apparently wrong? Then e doesn’t correct me, but immediately pulls out a nuanced read (not impossible from town but still) and flips eir read on me and starts to TR me. It kinda felt like when I said that alisae had trouble faking nuance as scum e thought that I’d be easy to pocket.

In post 849, Purple Heart wrote:

In post 846, Infinity 324 wrote:HEAL: Purple
HEAL: Infinity
HEAL: Gamma

I like gamma’s casual-ness to approaching reads, whereas he tried to look town more in haunted village. I have some paranoia wrt uncrowned and haven’t solidified my outworlder read, so I’m actually most comfortable with gamma as my second strongest TR.

Yeah honestly, I think this is the strongest student counsel we can ask for.
When it comes to doctor saves, the amount of kills I stopped is stupidly high for no reason. I can actually provide links but I'm either getting like super lucky or I just know how to use protection roles well.
My vote here is in spirit but I feel like it would be inappropriate for me to commit to this because I remember Taly telling me he wanted to talk to Gamma.

This also seemed a bit over the top. But idk. The slot has done so much town since replacing in that I don’t wanna scumread them, just paranoid.

Is Infinity always this paranoid? I remember zero paranoia from haunted house.

-kookie

I’m paranoid cause everyone’s buddying me and I don’t know how to deal with that, lol

In post 976, Infinity 324 wrote:PEdit: murder those reasons seem weak :/

I think saying “I have a tell but I’m not saying it yet because I want to see if it will keep up” can definitely be a way to LAMIST. I also think tunneling is pretty easy to fake.

In general, easy to fake but it isn't what I consider to be Noraa's scum playstyle.

In post 980, kookiemonster wrote:Is Infinity always this paranoid? I remember zero paranoia from haunted house.

-kookie

Different circumstances, the game was near solved

In post 979, Infinity 324 wrote:Then e doesn’t correct me, but immediately pulls out a nuanced read (not impossible from town but still) and flips eir read on me and starts to TR me.

I don't see why either alignment corrects you tbh. If I'm scum, its obviously better for me to not correct you, but if I'm town, I feel like it doesn't matter? Also you were asking me to go in depth on a read.

I can explain me flipping my read on you though, I think the way you approached my slot compared to noraa was a lot better in that while you still seemed like you scumread me at the time, it felt as if your mind was fairly open. I think in general the whole way you approached me and noraa was kinda townie and I feel like the real time interactions with you are good enough to not warrant revisiting the early pages of the game.

Hopefully that helps you out?

In post 981, Infinity 324 wrote:I’m paranoid cause everyone’s buddying me and I don’t know how to deal with that, lol

Its okay to feel paranoid tbh. You might feel a bit better if we flip something. Or you could feel worse and feel more appropriately paranoid later throughout the game. Who knows?

Purple Heart wrote:

In post 979, Infinity 324 wrote:Then e doesn’t correct me, but immediately pulls out a nuanced read (not impossible from town but still) and flips eir read on me and starts to TR me.

I don't see why either alignment corrects you tbh. If I'm scum, its obviously better for me to not correct you, but if I'm town, I feel like it doesn't matter? Also you were asking me to go in depth on a read.

I can explain me flipping my read on you though, I think the way you approached my slot compared to noraa was a lot better in that while you still seemed like you scumread me at the time, it felt as if your mind was fairly open. I think in general the whole way you approached me and noraa was kinda townie and I feel like the real time interactions with you are good enough to not warrant revisiting the early pages of the game.

Hopefully that helps you out?

Yeah that makes sense. It was mostly something I put out there to see if other people call me insane. I do think I was towny in those interactions.

I don't think you're insane.

P4: scumread flea
P5: townread Gamma
P6: scumread koba
P7: officially on my "do I scumread koba or just firmly disagree with them a lot" bullshit
P8: scumread on Uncrown
P9: townread flea
P10: townread mcat

Progress!

-m

In post 970, MURDERCAT wrote:I think this would be a new development in Noraa's scum game, but I was not in her other scum games I just read them for meta. Death Curse was certainly unique in a few ways.

In post 974, MURDERCAT wrote:Mostly I think claiming to have a read on Flea based on a tell but holding on to it instead of immediately putting it out there (as I would expect someone doing it for town cred to do) and hard tunneling purple are super town Noraa things. Also FWIW, I'm not going to take my lack of reading Noraa well in Death Curse as a hit to my confidence in my ability to read her because I did have a strong SR on her and the reason I came around was in large part due to a mechanical error that luckily worked out in scum's favor. (Not to take anything away from Noraa for playing well, I do think her AtE was outside of her previous scum meta and it did throw me.)

I wasn't keen on back-and-forth on the read but this feels genuine because I don't think scum waffles on a partner or a towny they would want to pocket in a game that encourages townblocs as early as D1.

I feel better with their recent posting.

In post 973, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 947, Purple Heart wrote:I'm liking Flea, tbh.
I trust his self-vote for council in 72 because he's not overt in detailing why he should be in the council. This leads me to think his POV is casual and less likely to be manufactured than if pulled to control the game narrative.
203 and 317 are sus' that I think come more from town because he isn't trying to doubtcast the slot itself, but notes why he thinks or feels a certain way about Gamma/OWER/Koba.
His questioning to the hydra was good because despite his view of Koba, he's looking at this hydra in a separate lens, or at least entertaining what this hydra's idea of the games are.
898 doesn't feel like a scum hedge on Noraa/This slot because he seems to be mediating an emotional conflict by not asserting a hard-lined stance around us. Doesn't feel pockety for the same reason.

Good take. I also liked the way flea treated their noraa scumread in their catchup, felt genuine.

Flea in 898 wrote:eugh.. ok its TvsT. Noras doing her town thing she does apparently. It's based on self-meta she's given before so it's town-lean at best.

This was a supporting sentence for my small towncase on . They acknowledge that self-meta may be biased but gave her the benefit of the doubt in constructing their read. Don't think scum does this and it came across as very townhunty.

If has issues with the slot, I want her to engage on me with the above rationale I laid out.

Also, what is your POV on ? Thought I'd return the question

In post 978, Gamma Emerald wrote:

In post 653, MURDERCAT wrote:

In post 637, Infinity 324 wrote:

In post 634, Purple Heart wrote:Why are you suspicious of Murder?

He’s a lot less proactive than when I played with him as town before, and it feels like he’s trying to buddy me (whereas normally when we’re both town, it’s the other way around lol)

I think I probably won't be able to find you if you are scum so i decided to just act as if you are town. It gives me a starting point for the day at least

I think you’re opting not to go deeper on something you very much could rn, and it’s probably towny that you are. I think it could be exploitable if you’re scum?

Yeah, I'm warming up to , 967 is good context for this line of thought.

Only thing I remember of scum is and while that was 1-2 years ago, I don't get the vibe that he's lurking, deflecting, or inflating his posts to solidify a stance.

HURT: kookiemonster
HEAL: Gamma Emerald

I believe supports this heal and I think are strong starts to a bloc. I don't like D1 townblocs in any sense but for now, I'm good with the slots.

In post 979, Infinity 324 wrote:This also seemed a bit over the top. But idk. The slot has done so much town since replacing in that I don’t wanna scumread them, just paranoid.

How did me responding to my ideal counsel seem over the top?

I really want this Gamma Infinity Purple Counsel to me it sounds really strong

In post 989, Purple Heart wrote:Also, what is your POV on OWER/Uncrowned? Thought I'd return the question

Ower hasn’t done much but what he’s done has felt off-the-cuff and I’ve gotten townvibes from it. I liked uncrowned’s early questioning and his engagement last night felt towny to me.

@alisae It’s probably a personality thing. Just the way it was worded I guess.

okay
this is the counsel I want and I am going to push it.
I think its really strong and I don't think anything that involves me can really be any stronger then that.

I also think we would be making a terrible mistake to not put me in the counsel.

- I want to control the doctor, its my favorite role on site.
- I can provide links, but I feel like I've shown mastery on how to use the doctor role due to the amount of kills I stop when I have the role.

I have a soulread on gamma this game somehow. Gamma is never scum here.

Okay
reading me saying "I want to control the doctor" sounds so scummy holy shit.
It sounds like I want to be a dictator or something.

That's not how that is meant to come across :/

In post 995, Infinity 324 wrote:I have a soulread on gamma this game somehow. Gamma is never scum here.

unheal flea and heal gamma

ur also healing murdercat according to teh vc

wow