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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:10 am
by clidd
In post 881, The Bulge wrote:
In post 814, Klyne wrote:AND let me explain what I mean by Supplemental.

You know when you have an interaction with someone as town, you usually don't have to think about it. It's all instinctive because you're town and the aspect of solving your other players is what drives you to make posts. plusJOYED does not have this trait, and instead when people respond to him, he is being
supplemental
by giving more details than what is needed for the time. Look at his ISO. Posts like 69, 80, and 329 stand out, but not in a good way. Reads like a potential scum who can't fake the thrill of lynching the scums so he just compensates
possibly worth noting that reminds me in a way of PlusJOYED's rvs TR on his scumbuddy in Illicit Substances. compare
In post 69, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 44, Klick wrote:Fair enough about Plus. I guess you could call Marashu/Titus/Klyne(/Battle Mage) the true 'wagon votes' there, but I didn't feel Plus' vote was truly random as he was sheeping you.

I know little about Titus' meta. At this point I'm interested in hearing her response.
my reasoning was
1- taly is the main characters name (but needs 1 extra l) from a medicore young adult fiction series I read in middle school that I enjoyed. I was going to make a reference but then realized no one would get the reference and this made me angry. in my rage i voted taly
2- sheep murdercat
In post 156, PlusJOYED wrote:i love touhou so im TRing remilla until further notice
In post 260, PlusJOYED wrote:156 was a fluffpost yes but i wanted to moreso be open about me being a touhou stan so i'd probably look at remilla slot with rose colored goggles; i wanted to make that publicly known. Sorry if I wasn't very clear on that
I still think, however, that he could have materialized a vote on Plus. It confuses me that he illustrated this comparison, but did not connect it to his read in the slot.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:27 am
by clidd
In post 970, PlusJOYED wrote:I also saw my prod I've been choosing to lurk
By the way, I hope you are ok.

When possible, I would like you to describe a summary of your reads. I have a strong impression that your slot is scum, unfortunately.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 9:29 am
by Datisi
VOTE: plusjoyed

give me one reason you shouldn't be yeeted into the sun

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:29 am
by VP Baltar
In post 970, PlusJOYED wrote:choosing to lurk
What in the holy hell

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:43 am
by PlusJOYED
In post 977, Datisi wrote:VOTE: plusjoyed

give me one reason you shouldn't be yeeted into the sun
the sun is too hot for me to survive

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:44 am
by PlusJOYED
also I'll sheep your vote pls bro

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:45 am
by Datisi
In post 979, PlusJOYED wrote:
In post 977, Datisi wrote:VOTE: plusjoyed

give me one reason you shouldn't be yeeted into the sun
the sun is too hot for me to survive
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Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:53 am
by VP Baltar
VOTE: PlusJoyed

Guess I don't have to do a massive reread when the scum are just going to claim in thread.

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 12:02 pm
by DeasVail
I am not going to vote yet but I am happy with plusjoyed getting votes

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 1:15 pm
by Titus
VOTE: plusjoyed

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:21 pm
by iamausername
i'm not saying that Plus wouldn't act like this as scum but i want y'all to know that i have seen him act exactly like this as town and i'm not a fan of this shift.

i guess his execution might be necessary in the long run, because i am not confident enough in my townread of his early play to be happy with him surviving endgame. but it still feels like a cop out right now.

gut feel from the last couple of pages has town stocks for clidd rising, town stocks for DV falling

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:22 pm
by iamausername
*surviving TO endgame, that should say

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:26 pm
by DeasVail
In post 985, iamausername wrote:i'm not saying that Plus wouldn't act like this as scum but i want y'all to know that i have seen him act exactly like this as town and i'm not a fan of this shift.

i guess his execution might be necessary in the long run, because i am not confident enough in my townread of his early play to be happy with him surviving endgame. but it still feels like a cop out right now.

gut feel from the last couple of pages has town stocks for clidd rising, town stocks for DV falling
this is actually useful to know, as someone who hasn't played with plus before.

Why do you feel that Bulge is a better option here?

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:36 pm
by Datisi
In post 962, Datisi wrote:also i just realized i don't get his progression from "baltar is a townread" () to "positive vibes but can be scum" () to whatever is, deas could you elaborate how/why you went through these?

*also* also i see you haven't answered first part of taly's and i realize i'm also curious about that so?
@deasvail

Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 11:44 pm
by iamausername
Why do you feel that Bulge is a better option here?
because i did get a town feel from Plus in the early game when he was actually making some attempt to play the game, while nothing from either player in Bulge's slot has ever struck me as town.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:35 am
by Klyne
Sorry folkz

I'm kinda waiting to be wrong. Not trying to be smug about my position or anything but to me this looks like a good lynch sitting over here? I'm reading what the rest of you are yammering about and my mind picks out DV/Bulge conversation the most could be an interesting way to go afterwards

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 11:57 am
by DeasVail
In post 988, Datisi wrote:
In post 962, Datisi wrote:also i just realized i don't get his progression from "baltar is a townread" () to "positive vibes but can be scum" () to whatever is, deas could you elaborate how/why you went through these?

*also* also i see you haven't answered first part of taly's and i realize i'm also curious about that so?
@deasvail
Thanks for pointing me to this post Datisi, apologies!

My read on VP is a bit confused in my own head I think. ORAM was a bit of a pet scumread for me which VP immediately had me doubting after his replace-in (I try to be as mindful as I can be of being too influenced by confirmation bias). However, over the course of the game since then, I ultimately do not feel there is anything strong convincing me that VP is town. There appears to be a generally friendly approach to the game but despite VP’s claims that he is so obvtown it hurts, I can definitely see his posts coming from a place of scum wanting to look good and be friendly with anyone, but not actually caring that much about getting reads right, as there seems to be a lack of ~something~ that would indicate VP is actually trying to solve.

However I also have to consider my own bias of being uncomfortable that my scumreads were mostly inactive people and perhaps overcompensating for this, hence why I do not want to pursue VP right now.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 12:17 pm
by VP Baltar
I've been active for most of the game. My recent days have been shit though because my work has been busy and I have not closely read some big chunks.

Do you see me as an inactive player DV?

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 1:35 pm
by Umlaut
Taly was prodded.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:01 pm
by DeasVail
In post 992, VP Baltar wrote:I've been active for most of the game. My recent days have been shit though because my work has been busy and I have not closely read some big chunks.

Do you see me as an inactive player DV?
On the contrary actually.

I have been worried that I could be trying too hard to suspect you, due to being uncomfortable with my scumreads being low-activity players

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:29 pm
by VP Baltar
Ah, I understand.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 4:35 pm
by clidd
Username, do you have an example of a Plus game that is in line with his behavior here? I would like to take a look.

Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:51 pm
by The Bulge
hey sorry for disappearing. I will get to this tomorrow and I'll have plenty of time this weekend to actually be here.

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by Umlaut
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by Umlaut
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