In post 963, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:@Mastina I don’t understand why your read on us is less strong because given my recent posting, I would expect the exact opposite, so can you explain this?
Basically, whenever you post it looks town, but you're posting less often than I would expect, essentially--every time you post I see town, but the paranoia is from seeing those posts less often than I'd expect. (And you're decent enough at scum that, if you space your posts out, it's possible for you to make town posts as scum.)
When Koalawang was going on you were like...every other post in the game.
But now it's like...one or two posts a day.
However bursts of activity look town and the content within looks town.
Which is where the rating comes in:
Early very very strong, currently okay. Okay isn't as good as strong, but okay is still explicitly good, it's still strong, just not
strongest
.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 6:35 pm
by WhemeStar
I’m kind of done with this day :/
I really don’t know who scum is
I keep bouncing back and forth between mastina PP and TFL
In post 963, Smoke and Mirrors wrote:@Mastina I don’t understand why your read on us is less strong because given my recent posting, I would expect the exact opposite, so can you explain this?
Basically, whenever you post it looks town, but you're posting less often than I would expect, essentially--every time you post I see town, but the paranoia is from seeing those posts less often than I'd expect. (And you're decent enough at scum that, if you space your posts out, it's possible for you to make town posts as scum.)
When Koalawang was going on you were like...every other post in the game.
But now it's like...one or two posts a day.
However bursts of activity look town and the content within looks town.
Which is where the rating comes in:
Early very very strong, currently okay. Okay isn't as good as strong, but okay is still explicitly good, it's still strong, just not
strongest
.
I really didn’t want to get into this and absolutely no disrespect to Xtoxm intended but the whole situation with Krazy has seriously hurt my motivation for playing this game. I think I might have repped out if it weren’t for Pooky. I just feel weird playing this game with Krazy perma’d but I’m really trying to not let that affect me. :/
I keep bouncing back and forth between mastina PP and TFL
Can you vote TFL then
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:16 pm
by Superb Subtlety
If TFL seriously cannot see the reasons I am making votes then I don't think TFL is looking for them
The only push or vote I don't think is easily explained is my Battle Mage vote, and we got some satisfactory content after that. Which is kinda the point of that kind of flashwagon.
The reason it doesn't seem so strange to most of us that everyone jumped off the Rathe wagon to form the Battle Mage wagon is because I led a push where myself and a couple of others talked to Rathe, and the discussion and after effects of that felt town indicative. Meanwhile, Battle Mage was a slot that I don't think anybody had any real reason to townread before we wagoned up.
It's a natural move in terms of the flow of the game. I think it's scum-indicative that TFl has completed missed the reasoning and what happened with the push on Rathe and is instead taking the votes out of context there, specifically focuaing only on how people voted a possible LHF slot rather than the group effort to place a low activity slot that culminated in the decision that we did not want to elim Rathe.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:29 pm
by Superb Subtlety
I don't think I'm voting any other wagon today. This is it. TFL is the elim.
They have missed too much subtext that would be evident to someone that was actually scumhunting and trying to place slots would definitely have seen.
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:30 pm
by WhemeStar
VOTE: TFL
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:34 pm
by Superb Subtlety
In post 982, Superb Subtlety wrote:I don't think I'm voting any other wagon today. This is it. TFL is the elim.
They have missed too much subtext that someone that was actually scumhunting and trying to place slots would definitely have seen.
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Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:47 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
@ Subtle
Ok was reading my statement and it was badly written. I can't believe how badly written it was.
I did not mean you needed to go back and explain every vote. I was talking in general terms. I meant that all votes need to be explained and you failed to do so with your BM vote. I can understand how you misunderstood me as I did not communicate my ideas clearly at all.
I think there are scum on the Mastin wagon and was likely on the Rathe wagon given their size. If Mastina is scum I think scum is bussing. Usually its 1:1 and 1.One on the main wagon, One on a second wagon and one on a self vanity/no vote. This however is not a hard and fast rule. This is why I was concern and still concern about those who was on the Rathe wagon. It began to stall badly so jumping onto a fast building wagon would be a good play for them. This is not to say this happened however I do not think town should ignore this possibility,
I will post more later today
Posted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 9:51 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
Edit
It began to stall badly so jumping onto a fast building wagon would be a good play for them (that is scum)
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 1:23 am
by Superb Subtlety
Voting for pressure in order to place is perfectly reasonable and loses that effect to some degree if you say that's what you're doing
You've also focused on the only vote for which my reasoning was unclear. That you've cherrypicked that in order to place me tells me all that I need to know
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 11:57 am
by Smoke and Mirrors
In post 987, Superb Subtlety wrote:Voting for pressure in order to place is perfectly reasonable and loses that effect to some degree if you say that's what you're doing
You've also focused on the only vote for which my reasoning was unclear. That you've cherrypicked that in order to place me tells me all that I need to know
I don’t really have a read yet on TFL and I don’t think Mastina’s the best wagon but I have very strong reasons not to trust certain things you said about my role which I’m currently unable to elaborate on. That could be NAI but I don’t think it’s beyond your scum range to make bad setup spec reads. Wheme auto jumping to my mod confirmed role as scum is even worse. Only thing that doesn’t make sense to me about Mastina is that she’s townlocking two slots who are doubting my role. Also, in the one game I played with you where you were scum, you were extremely active but in all the games you were town, you were a lot more lurky, so tell me why I should trust you here despite your - what read to me as possible attempts to rolefish me - is that fair? Because you are trying to take charge of this game which wouldn’t be a concern for me at all, had you not done anything to make me super paranoid of you.
I really want to have a much more confident read on you but that’s hard when I’m super paranoing on you. So if you’re town here, please help me to see it?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 12:45 pm
by TheFuzzylogic99
Going back and rereading Subtle to see if I had misread them. hope to post it later today
Ngl I'm mostly posting now because, 1: I logged in due to getting an email about a review PM, and 2: after logging in I posted in the speakeasy so felt I was obligated to post in gamethreads especially given the nature of the post I made.
Once more a reminder I'm currently both V/LA and depressed.
And even though I'm townreading Noraabear I could see any of these four flipping scum.
But it's in the exact order of this wagon in terms of likelihood: April > Korina > Rathe >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noraabear (amount of space to emphasize that I am, in fact, townreading Noraabear here rather notably so)
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 3:26 pm
by Smoke and Mirrors
I think Mastina’s town.
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:27 pm
by Raya36
I still think Fuzzy is town and I don't want the elim to be there
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2021 4:29 pm
by Raya36
I'd be ok with April, Penguin, Korina, maybe mastina, maybe superb but I think I'd have a better chance at sorting them properly later on than the others I've listed
