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No you really don't have much reason. When I repped in, you were just like "Noraa is scum" and that was it. You refused to engage or resort and I don't believe that is town mindset.

In post 974, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:I see we are blessed with The White Queen of Tsunami. This certainly does upset the table.

Mother I am to assume then you are declining my proposal?

you better start resorting now.

I am already obvtown with my fiery passion.

Also I am not going in the dead pool. Don't anyone dare suggest it again. I am not going. No.

I was planning on hiding my Sans SR but since im revealing that Aaron is me, Sans you need to engage me asap and tell me why you townread Aaron but then decided to SR immediately once consensus shifted over.

I was thinking Sans was scum so if I hid the SR, I could potentially get a TR back and secure my position in the game but since im revealing Aaron is me, that all goes down the drain.

For Nancy, I did think you were scum but your reaction to my SR was very towny so I legitimately have reversed that read.

That was not a lie, I do TR Nancy now.
You were scummy because I felt you didnt back up your reads but your insistence and stubbornness that you are right I am inclined to TR.

In post 966, Noraa wrote:Mmm fine Oka you just want me to say Aaron was me right?
Yeah, Aaron was me. This replace in was a test to see who would reevaluate me.

I understand Aaron's gimmick was strange and hard to engage but I know that Noraa is easier to connect to. Anyone that refuses to reevaluate my slot is basically insta scum read for me.

My Queen, you know the truth of the mask I bear, and you know the variance in style that comes with said mask. If you would consider:
That you held an alt with a gimmick making it harder to connect, making a Grand Reveal and expecting a full and complete reassessment...
What reaction would you expect from those here should I do the same?

And I ask you to please be careful around potentially hinting at my true identity. I lowered the mask in trust.

The only read that I hid was the read on sans.
For tea party, overall I probably lean town ish. but yeah aside from that, I haven't lied.

what have you done at all that makes me want to resort you.

want to see your explanations again that you claim clear you?

In post 913, Noraa wrote:Ok now reads.
I say mom is town but that is simply giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Hatters I can't read and have never been able to read. I'd say they are lean scum here tho.
Ydrasse is probs town however I don't understand her TR on Oka.
I SR Oka because I think their reads have been a hot mess.
Harley is 100% town if Nancy. Like 100% guaranteed.
Sans is probably town.
Who else is in the game?

these explanations? where you say X is scum or town. The only person you have nuance on is me. literally that's it. okay let's see your accusations where my posts are contentless because that's what you've been obsessive over.

In post 254, OkaPoka wrote:i want to get rid of people who want to play suboptimally and even after my explanation, still want to play suboptimally and cannot demonstrate why their view of the game is optimal.

unwnd hasn't read the setup. look i don't even want to engage there. they have no strong opinions other than being contrarian honestly.

koba wants to hero play. they want to use hood to sort and suicide? or go to endgame? demonstrably does not understand the setup clearly. why not sort here and why even play with suicide when all it does it sacrifice 1 guaranteed town for 2 maybe scums rather than go for 3 maybe scums. and if they determine suicide isn't the play? what then? have they thought that through? what's the plan then? chaos? how are you going to convince another isolated hood to go after the other isolated hood? who's more coordinated here, scum or town? why not just resolve all these issues today and put the top 3 scum in a box right now and just yeetus. oh wait koba has thought of that:

In post 166, DkKoba wrote:

In post 163, OkaPoka wrote:the inevitable direction of every single person who plays dance and deals with someone annoying

"im tilted idc who we pair can we just go to next phase"

??? Its obvious strategy to group 3 scummiest and launch them outta here. Whats ur point

but now wants to suicide? now wants to lol pair? i mean what's koba's gameplan here other than undermine a chance at playing this correctly.

so yes, sure, you can read it as me wanting to get rid of voices that want to fight me. and you wouldn't be entirely incorrect. but if they are town they've aligned themselves with scum favored play.

here's my koba case. is this not much? i can keep quoting

In post 379, OkaPoka wrote:i think your play is scummy as in your approach to the game hasn't been townie

you've realized how to play the game correctly and then a bit afterwards want to mess around with a hero play which is a lot more work individually for you. tinfoil hat*, the more i started pushing the optimal play the more you realized that you needed to prevent that from happening so you tried to get us to pivot off of the best play and go memey.

you want to build a townbloc but i don't see any attempt at that, i know you are busy BUT still

and then i feel like you are being reactionary towards me still and not really doing anything to make me lose confidence in this push

In post 384, OkaPoka wrote:where the townbloc at an unhealthy amount of your iso is fighting me every single step along the way rather than "building" your townbloc

In post 387, OkaPoka wrote:im annoying you by forcing you to follow the strategy that you intended to follow the entire time?

tell me, does fire replacing in suddenly change koba's alignment?
we can start here, tell me where in my koba case i lack content and am only superficially analyzing the case. esp in relation to one of your reasonings like:

I say mom is town but that is simply giving her the benefit of the doubt.

In post 983, Mad Hatters Tea Party wrote:

In post 966, Noraa wrote:Mmm fine Oka you just want me to say Aaron was me right?
Yeah, Aaron was me. This replace in was a test to see who would reevaluate me.

I understand Aaron's gimmick was strange and hard to engage but I know that Noraa is easier to connect to. Anyone that refuses to reevaluate my slot is basically insta scum read for me.

My Queen, you know the truth of the mask I bear, and you know the variance in style that comes with said mask. If you would consider:
That you held an alt with a gimmick making it harder to connect, making a Grand Reveal and expecting a full and complete reassessment...
What reaction would you expect from those here should I do the same?

And I ask you to please be careful around potentially hinting at my true identity. I lowered the mask in trust.

I won't tell anyone, my dearest flavorleafpenguinpowernancydrewhecticydrassemomrangalnoraaaarontsutsuprincess

In post 554, Aaron wrote:

In post 494, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.

Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice

It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness

Dkkoba is town. Don't question it.

oh wait remember this one this one was a real gem

I need to go to class now.
NO ONE propose or accept anything because I am a person that is easy to sort in a couple rl days. DO NOT. I repeat do not put me in the death pool because I am guaranteed to be the most obvtown in this set soon.

In post 987, OkaPoka wrote:

In post 554, Aaron wrote:

In post 494, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.

Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice

It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness

Dkkoba is town. Don't question it.

oh wait remember this one this one was a real gem

attacking a gimmick is stupid, bird.

In post 961, Noraa wrote:Oka has declared himself alpha of this thread but I am here to say that no, you don't deserve that crown if you won't explain your reads and engage people properly.

maybe gimmick attacks are stupid but you also wrote this

okay so, here is why then i find you repping out and onto this account as something scummy,

to me, it was a fairly obvious Thing that you repped into your own slot and it wasn’t a stranger just because of it happening, and the speed of your reads. that you lied about it to use as a test feels... i dunno, it’s only after you got pressured on it that you told us feels more like being caught red handed and owning up to it.

you were on the cusp of being thrown into the dead pool; no one had any truly outstanding objections to you going in there from what i recall, not everyone wanted you but it was likely. and you, having a disconnect from this game apparently this entire time decided that now, right before we’re forced to start forming pools, you decided now was the time that you wanted to switch over. to me it’s damning because of the table, like. look at mom, you literally bought yourself a get out of jail card with her for now. to me, it feels like you did this because you thought that it could buy yourself some more time this game and pocket some people. that, and flipping on some reads/saying you lied about them also just feels like you’re using this rep in to flip things around for your benefit without having to back up a process on them

like sorry if you weren’t having fun on aaron (and regardless of alignment you probably weren’t) but the timing and execution of it feels super weird to me

that being said i’m not sure if it’s you but i feel like with mom suddenly appealing to you to turn on oka one of you at least is scum, maybe both trying to save each other?

truth is you just want people to be paranoid enough of me with so little deadline where maybe, just maybe, some chaos can disrupt a good play. repping in now? why now? why not in dance? why in this dangerous phase with so little time? why not earlier when obviously there wasn't going to be flirting and you decided to play aaron more seriously?

In post 991, Ydrasse wrote:okay so, here is why then i find you repping out and onto this account as something scummy,

to me, it was a fairly obvious Thing that you repped into your own slot and it wasn’t a stranger just because of it happening, and the speed of your reads. that you lied about it to use as a test feels... i dunno, it’s only after you got pressured on it that you told us feels more like being caught red handed and owning up to it.

you were on the cusp of being thrown into the dead pool; no one had any truly outstanding objections to you going in there from what i recall, not everyone wanted you but it was likely. and you, having a disconnect from this game apparently this entire time decided that now, right before we’re forced to start forming pools, you decided now was the time that you wanted to switch over. to me it’s damning because of the table, like. look at mom, you literally bought yourself a get out of jail card with her for now. to me, it feels like you did this because you thought that it could buy yourself some more time this game and pocket some people. that, and flipping on some reads/saying you lied about them also just feels like you’re using this rep in to flip things around for your benefit without having to back up a process on them

like sorry if you weren’t having fun on aaron (and regardless of alignment you probably weren’t) but the timing and execution of it feels super weird to me

like I mean I don't care what you say and if people didnt push me on it(stupid bird), I would've gotten better reactions to it that would've probs come close to solved the game. Now instead, because y'all can't fucking wait one day, we get no results.

In post 908, OkaPoka wrote:We have like 24 hrs to find the deathpool and we are basically at fire and ??? And ???

In post 912, OkaPoka wrote:Fire/noraa/mom ez?

In post 913, Noraa wrote:Ok now reads.
I say mom is town but that is simply giving her the benefit of the doubt.
Hatters I can't read and have never been able to read. I'd say they are lean scum here tho.
Ydrasse is probs town however I don't understand her TR on Oka.
I SR Oka because I think their reads have been a hot mess.
Harley is 100% town if Nancy. Like 100% guaranteed.
Sans is probably town.
Who else is in the game?

yeah we wait one day we lose

In post 989, Noraa wrote:

In post 987, OkaPoka wrote:

In post 554, Aaron wrote:

In post 494, unwnd wrote:I'm not engaging you further on this, everything is just an argument to you be to won, not necessarily to reach understanding. That isn't the way I like to play the game, and the only mistake I've made thus far is engaging you at your level. That is why I insulted you, because I just didn't assume you have the capability to be humble. To have any sensibility.

Despite this, you're playing this game and I respect the mod's choice

It's not my decision whether you live or die, despite my own coarseness

Dkkoba is town. Don't question it.

oh wait remember this one this one was a real gem

attacking a gimmick is stupid, bird.

When the persona is the gimmick, the reads must be held accountable. I fully expect should my smoke and mirrors fail that I be held accountable to all I have said and committed to.

I would ask you answer the question, my Queen. Also as you're aware, we do not have the days required to sort you beyond your gimmick and so as I have stated you are accountable to your gimmick.

you could have repped in as noraa when you realized it was unfun and not now when things are reaching deadline though

im locking in fire/noraa/mom

harley you okay with not leaving on unwnd and hatters?

I find mothers change of heart slightly alarming, Dr Quinzel, do you have any thoughts on whom you wish to potentially join us? I do believe Mothers ignorance is a declination of my proposal.