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Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:40 pm
by Datisi
ico, we still have a *few* things to talk about, can you chill with that for a second?

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:41 pm
by Datisi
bc like i am getting worse and worse vibes from you, just from skimming

i'm gonna read it properly in a bit but like

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:44 pm
by Luca Blight
We’re 39 pages in, George has 4 posts (and had 2 at the time of my ‘naked’ vote) and you’re calling the wagon shit for lack of reasoning?

What do you expect when the guy in questions has so little content? At what point is it ok to start pressuring the players who aren’t doing anything?

These are exactly the sort of slots that need sorting sooner rather than later. What’s even more bizarre is that Geraint actually agreed that George’s latest post was scummy and yet is taking this stance in defence of George and basically giving him a free pass

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:44 pm
by Iconeum
UNVOTE:

sure
i've been as open as Always

if you got them vibes you talk to me you know how it works

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:45 pm
by Iconeum
In post 975, Datisi wrote:ico, we still have a *few* things to talk about, can you chill with that for a second?
you can start by replying to my answer on your reads post i suppose

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:46 pm
by Datisi
In post 979, Iconeum wrote:
In post 975, Datisi wrote:ico, we still have a *few* things to talk about, can you chill with that for a second?
you can start by replying to my answer on your reads post i suppose
you know i have classes in the morning, i'm getting to it :roll:

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:57 pm
by Luca Blight
In post 938, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I find Trendall pretty easy to play with tbh. Never understood the issue you have with him Luca.
He’s so negative and just likes to crap on people who are actually trying to solve the game. It didn’t help that I was playing three simultaneous games with him at the time and in all three we were both Town. I was sick to death with his attitude by the end of it.

I honestly don’t know why people bother playing Mafia if they believe it’s impossible to acquire reads and solve the game through discussion and interaction

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 11:59 pm
by Luca Blight
The only thing that makes it impossible IS that very attitude, and players lurking/not doing anything which unfortunately is what’s happening here

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:09 am
by Luca Blight
In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?
im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead
And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:12 am
by geraintm
In post 974, Iconeum wrote:yeah absolutely

VOTE: george

if this is scum, you can die next
I would happily take that trade right now

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:13 am
by geraintm
In post 983, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?
im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead
And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon
I know right! What a wild and crazy guy!

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:15 am
by geraintm
Old me: don't vote anyone
People: don't like that, we will vote you.
New me: vote for everyone
People: don't like that, please don't do that
New me: I really want to vote for everyone, but I won't this time
People: yeah, when we said to stop voting for everyone we are going to judge you so hard...

New me: shrug

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:15 am
by Luca Blight
In post 959, geraintm wrote:like....George has only made 2 half assed posts out of their 4...but that is still more than some people in the game
it isn't like they are ignoring this game whislt posting elsewhere.
george is an easy push from people.
This is just scraping the bottom of the barrel

The only player who has less content is Not_Mafia, who has a reputation for being pretty useless as either alignment most of the time. George, as you said yourself, has actual scummy content among his four posts

It might be an ‘easy’ push but it’s also a necessary one. I’d quite happily vote both George and NM if I were able to but a choice has to be made

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:16 am
by Luca Blight
In post 985, geraintm wrote:
In post 983, Luca Blight wrote:
In post 961, geraintm wrote:
In post 957, Luca Blight wrote:Any reason you’re not voting George?
im still catching up.

and going to break my vote longest wagon rule. not voting george. i think the wagon stinks.

i am not saying george can't be scum - they have as much change as anyone else in this game - but i am not (right now) going to help people eliminate them

VOTE: aliceK instead
And the guy who says the George wagon stinks due to naked votes goes ahead and places a naked vote of his own on the next biggest wagon
I know right! What a wild and crazy guy!
What a numpty, more like

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:23 am
by Datisi
ok sad excuse of a wallpost gogogog
In post 883, Anya wrote:what's wrong with all of you george voters stop throwing
while i'm here: VOTE: anya

why does she have like *one* post with content this game? i'm genuinely starting to believe she's trying to hide behind shitposting
In post 889, Wooper wrote:
In post 835, Datisi wrote:- iv is like fine i guess idk.
how


ur characterisation of my posting in this post made me skin crawl :/
i thought and from iv were fine posts and i don't see the issue with them

and like lol sorry? i have no clue what your reads are even supposed to be and i'm actively disliking the fact you're kinda fence-sitting on me and then you pop up with a random defense of gera, who nobody was even talking about at that time (edit: went back to check, and i see norwee did mention gera in one post on the previous page, so it wasn't *completely* off-topic, but the point how you had more important things to talk about still stands) and that's supposed to be #goodposting?
In post 890, Wooper wrote:
In post 850, Datisi wrote:also i'm p sure george is now at 5 with neither gera nor n_m on wagon so it's time tooooooo... UNVOTE: george

boy oh boy can't wait for vp to call me scum based on wagon movement!!
y do u keep inviting when u have so many uncomfortable reads on peopel
because there being a wagon on them is not necessarily magically gonna make them more readable and i'm not ready for a hammer
In post 892, innocentvillager wrote:datisi can you chime in please?
no

ok a thought: i feel like ico is giving a town-pass to wooper waaaaaay too easily? like idk off the top of my head but i have a feeling ico should know that wooper is like. not a bad scum player. how in the hecc is he getting so many townpasses here. i don't like it.

gut is telling me ico is scum that's tmi-ing wooper being town

but gut is also telling me wooper is scum bc his lolnullread on me makes absolutely no sense and i'd *really* expect wooper to know better and townread me no problem in this game

but but but gut is also telling me that luca is townreading me way too easily even though in a vacuum i would fully expect him to have a solid read on me by now

heaven fucking help me

re: ico's
- i'm calling out posts as i see them and i thought that post from luca was bad. no that doesn't mean that post never comes from town, or that it even affected my opinion about his alignment much. but i'm going to call it out.
- why does gypyx feel more like uninvested town than scum to you?
- "we're all over the place if we compare our reads and idk what that means" you mean like... every single game we play?? what are you implying it means??
- also what *are* your reads anyway*
In post 974, Iconeum wrote:yeah absolutely

VOTE: george

if this is scum, you can die next
i really don't like this vote
like
ughgghuh

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:42 am
by Datisi
note: don't take sections from the above to mean i'm scumreading luca, my read there is still net town to some degree, just

need to have it out so i post-game i can say "called it" if necessary

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:43 am
by Datisi
also i took a skim of another game of alice that just ended recently and like she was similarly low content and she was town and i'm running out of hope this game will ever have enough content for me to have a solid grasp on

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:48 am
by Luca Blight
VOTE: Anya

I’m just going to sheep Datisi from now until the end of time

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:53 am
by Datisi
i just did an ugly distressed cry-laughter sound

i bet the other people in the house are now wondering what the fuck is wrong with me

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 12:54 am
by Datisi
In post 290, Luca Blight wrote:George’s long post is +scum imo
In post 737, Luca Blight wrote:731 generally makes me feel better about my GeorgeBailey vote
ok now i know george is suffering from a bad case of "only 2 content posts in 40 pages" but can you elaborate on this? i'm not sure you did, link me if you did

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:09 am
by Iconeum
ok i see you need some Ico!Shotgun reads in your life

wooper/datisi/luca/norwee
NM/VP/Gyp/IV
AliceK/Anya/GB

Geraint gets a special spot where i've never been more itchy to lim a prob town slot

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:12 am
by Luca Blight
First one: George made a pretty empty post disguised by its length, which is a common scum tactic. His comments on geraint seemed like he was just trying to find something to talk about that made it look at though he was thinking about the game, but it was superficial

His last post: basically copying things that others have said, safe stances and not an original thought amongst them. Again making a long post to compensate for that. His tinfoil theory on me might have been of interest, but it feels like he’s just stalling the day out at this point

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:12 am
by Datisi
In post 995, Iconeum wrote:NM/VP/Gyp/IV
can i get an elaboration on all of these except n_m

like you seemed interested in defending gypyx to the point i'm not sure why you would do so if he's null to you

and overall how are iv/vp both null?

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:13 am
by Iconeum
In post 989, Datisi wrote:ok a thought: i feel like ico is giving a town-pass to wooper waaaaaay too easily? like idk off the top of my head but i have a feeling ico should know that wooper is like. not a bad scum player. how in the hecc is he getting so many townpasses here. i don't like it.
i don't really care you think it's TMI
and i think i also mentioned it once or twice that maybe scum!wooper is capable of faking it

does that mean i shouldn't townread him for it?

my process is really simple, especially on day 1

would player x make this post as town? yes? -> townread no? -> scumread
the more posts i see that fit in the first one, the happier i am

i have not seen posts from wooper that fit the second category, and a few that strongly fit the first one

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 1:16 am
by Iconeum
In post 997, Datisi wrote:
In post 995, Iconeum wrote:NM/VP/Gyp/IV
can i get an elaboration on all of these except n_m

like you seemed interested in defending gypyx to the point i'm not sure why you would do so if he's null to you

and overall how are iv/vp both null?
i was defending an opinion that i do not scumread gyp at this point, and he hasn't really made any AI posts as far as I can tell which is the main reason i think he's just not into the game yet

both iv and vp have made posts that i like and don't like and i'm very happy sitting on the sidelines letting it play out and letting them be themselves and see what happens yes

i could definitely be a little more creative and have more tiers, in which case iv goes over vp with NM as true null obviously