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[osuka]

Why do you think nom is town without reading?

What makes you think I haven’t read? I haven’t fully caught up, but I’ve read enough. They’re Town. I’ve been surer about other things in games before, but I really do think that slot is just Town. I’m trying to decide which one of you is the Scum hiding behind the bad push still, and I’m not sure. I would say Rathe, but it’s not clear.

yes rathe is scum good job andres

hop on the wagon, buddy

[Nero Cain]

I just think she's lurky as scum.

VLA until Monday

quit the angleshooting dogshit please

????

im just saying that I was accusing Titus of lurking b4 she went v/la despite Titus and peta claiming that I didn't

[petapan]

anyway, the answer is only ever going to boil down to "i've played with dgb before and the things you are claiming are strange amount to playstyle quirks rather than anything alignment indicative". that's unlikely to satisfy you and i absolutely do not give a fuck


on a skim of the noughts and crosses game i actually think save the dragons is qualitatively different here than he was in that game, BUT that is an unusual setup and not nearly as familiar with him based on a small sample so i wouldn't strongly base my read of him off that. do think he's playing the game in a towny way

he just flipped town in a previous game of ours and he was most definitely playing _very_ differently

is it a leap to assume he was town in noughts and crosses?

no, he was scum in that game which is why dwlee was voting him.

i assue you're talking about 2205? what do you see about him here that you think is different?

[petapan]

actually on looking on it myself that's an incredibly dumb question as the difference is fairly obvious. let's skip that question and go to the next step: do you think his difference in play means something in terms of his alignment?

[Save The Dragons]

I'm not really sure why my play is different. I started this game overextended and didn't want to process the arguments going on related to dgb telling us not to claim. So I kind of just decided to wing it. I think that's why.

I relied on my gut in both this and 2205.

Rathe screamed town in sibyl elegy and isnt doing that here so it's worth my vote now

[ssbm_Kyouko]

is that something you'd do over DOTW or is DOWT still scummier for you guys?

@ the hood

If you mean DGB I'd still go that way

I just think she's lurky as scum.

VLA until Monday

quit the angleshooting dogshit please

What is angleshooting?

[Rathe]

Rathe screamed town in sibyl elegy and isnt doing that here so it's worth my vote now

thats fair

[Nero Cain]

[Gypyx]

votecount 1.7

Nero Cain (4) :

nomnomnom - Rathe - Petapan - Titus

Petapan (2) :

Titus - Dragon of the West

Dragon of the West (2) :

ssbm_Kyouko -Anya

Rathe (2) :

Save The Dragons - Osuka

nomnomnom (1) :

VFP

Dwlee99 (1) :

Derek12

Anya (1) :

DrippingGoofball

Dunnstral (1) :

Dwlee99

Osuka (1) :

Andresvmb

Not voting (2) :

- Dunnstral - T3

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-12 01:56:28)

, with 17 alive, it takes 9 to turn someone into a corpse

announcements

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summary - Megalovania variation
would recommend ? - not rlly lol

[Dunnstral]

What if we just linked arms, sang a happy song, and yeeted Dunnstral out of this atmosphere?

I can always get behind a Dunnsrtal yeet, context be damned.

Is that a yes to both of those or just the lurking one :P

That's your job to figure out

I can make it easier moving forward

sorta felt like this was a cheeky town response. He's not a terrible d1 elimination b/c he'll just eat up night actions and/or be unreadable for the rest of the game.

I thought we were supposed to find the mafia?

[Dunnstral]

Is that a yes to both of those or just the lurking one :P

That's your job to figure out

I can make it easier moving forward

sorta felt like this was a cheeky town response. He's not a terrible d1 elimination b/c he'll just eat up night actions and/or be unreadable for the rest of the game.

But then he didn't make it easier :(

I was not anticipating day 1 being so far from completion

[T3]

votecount 1.7

Nero Cain (4) :

nomnomnom - Rathe - Petapan - Titus

Petapan (2) :

Titus - Dragon of the West

Dragon of the West (2) :

ssbm_Kyouko -Anya

Rathe (2) :

Save The Dragons - Osuka

nomnomnom (1) :

VFP

Dwlee99 (1) :

Derek12

Anya (1) :

DrippingGoofball

Dunnstral (1) :

Dwlee99

Osuka (1) :

Andresvmb

Not voting (2) :

- Dunnstral - T3

Day 1 ends in (expired on 2021-06-12 01:56:28)

, with 17 alive, it takes 9 to turn someone into a corpse

announcements

still looking for a Derek12 replacement

flavor

video number 947
summary - Megalovania variation
would recommend ? - not rlly lol

I come back and see this vc VOTE: Rathe

[DrippingGoofball]

Wow both Anya and kyuoko are scum.

is your case on anya that she is voting a slot you like?

Are you high?

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: Nero Cain

The neighbors are still scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

Dunnstral is the biggest lurksack of the game right now.

[petapan]

304 - this seemed disingenuous. you had to have known most of the votes you were referring to weren't of substance

really? how am i supposed to know that? a lot of the votes were earlygame sheepvotes, how am i to judge substance there

312 - It really seems like your argument here was predicated on the idea that Dwlee must be scum because he made an 'easy' argument...which is just a weird jump to me. or you're thinking that the DGB vs Dwlee convo had to be TvS? which again I don't like that assumption

i don't think it's a jump at all that scum often like to argue from a place of "correct" logic because it gives them a sort of high ground. but we are talking about a gutread i formed off page 1 here

Your interactions with kyo and posts where you've mentioned them have just seemed strange to me. like it hasn't seemed to me like either of you put your heart into it. especially for someone you've said you're unsure of. I would've expected a lot more inquisitiveness from you, based on how you've been pushing other players:
316,486,619,647

kyouko barely posts dude. i can try to pry content out of him but if he's not going to play ball i can't do a whole hell of a lot. i don't see how i'm worse in that regard than virtually anyone else in the game. in fact i've been more aggressive than most in trying to force him to say more, although i don't think that's a towntell for me

648 - you asked me specifically about any reads I had because I was focusing on you too much so I gave you 639. the only thing you responded to my read list with was your response to my scum read of you.

i didn't find your other reads worth commenting on. they were

fine

and even believable but not all that developed and didn't give me very much to go off

753 - can you explain your reads on why anya is scummier than kyouko. You've said it a couple times but I haven't seen you say why

because kyouko, lately, has had a trickle of reasoning and i don't think scum comes out trying to force a scumread on you, where anya has largely fallen off the map after the early game and has only emerged to sheep kyouko

840 - you don't find it strange that something in the pt magically happened and the anya/kyo thing evaporated?

i really don't know and it's hard to gauge with both saying so little. i think it'd be incredibly sloppy play as scum theater because neither has been active enough to earn any trust. is it possible one is scum pocketing the other? i guess. is it an immediate red flag alarm bell for me above all else? not really. i'll keep poking at them when i have opportunities because certainly neither is in the group of townreads i would actively defend

also, you gave me a hard time for focusing on you so much. and then are like "wait a sec, focus on me again and re-explain your read on me" which I don't know if it's totally scummy, but man it's annoying

see, the reason i asked you about this is because i wanted you to flesh out your read on me, because i still don't really have a handle on you, and this seemed to be the best way to do it. i did hope you'd broaden your view of the game but it hasn't happened in a way that helped me read you better, so this was my alternative.

and the thing is, for someone who has been almost singularly obsessed with me this game, to the point it feels like you have a closet shrine filled with pictures of me, your explanation for your scumread on me is some serious weak tea. it doesn't

feel

like i should be your strongest scumread, based on the words you are putting out here. like, i asked you to back up what you're saying and a lot of what you're pulling has you admitting it's not that strong a point, and yet apparently you still think i'm the scummiest person in the game. what's the deal with that?

[petapan]

i apologize for that awfully formatted quotestripe wall that will make everyone's eyes bleed but i saw no other option

[petapan]

There's at least one scum on my wagon (Titus) so unless you think she's bussing me then I'm town. Nom and Peta are some shade of bad/scummy. There's a risk when you call people scum and that's that they vote you and its not entirely impossible that peta/nom are just sore that I've not liked their posts and think they are scummy.

oh please don't pull the "woe is me" victim act when you're constantly trying to twist people's words against them or make underhanded arguments with regard to lurking

like look at this shit:

I feel like there's some scum motivation in trying to make this game stagnant and I think it's likely scum are posting less on purpose. And I think that peta sitting on a dead wagon would certainly help with a game being stagnant and I particularly hated 829.

I felt like his reaction was scummy b/c it's hypocritical to me to argue that the wagons are dead and he didn't know where to vote but failed to join the ssbm wagon and the emerging DOTW wagon. Yes, he finally gave some reasoning but I'm not sure why he reacted so violently at first.

It also seems odd that he had no problem vanity voting Anya but when the ssbm wagon was a think he claims he was hesitant.

Perhaps this is nooby arrogance and he can't handle any criticism at all.

855 is likely a scum post since its sheeping Rathe's reasoning (not that Rathe said he suspects me for it but nom thinks rathe will prob vote me)

[post=nom]nom[/post]

Q: why haven't you moved your vote to anothe wagon?

A: because I haven't felt as good about the other wagons, although i would compromise on them if necessary

normal, sane person logic: oh, i see, that makes sense

nero cain logic: oh my god u r scumz keeping the game dead by not starting wagons!

it's impossible for me to think anyone could legitimately believe this, instead it just reads like someone who wants to ring me up on some idiotic gotcha about how not moving my vote makes me scum. at a very basic level i think most people get that not everyone uses their vote the same way, and that's not an indicator of alignment. but nero doesn't care about that, he's not interested in my actual perspective, he just wants an excuse to attack me for not dancing to a set of conditions he's made up on the spot. it's the same shit with everyone he's attacked this game

[petapan]

and i'm not the only one who is accusing nero of flagrantly misrepping their arguments, at some point when multiple people are saying there's smoke there's a pretty damn good chance there's a fire

[petapan]

Anya I've been convinced, throw DGB on the pile of people I'm willing to lim.

woof

[VFP]

The Nero wagon is terrible. Mainly from who's on it alone.
Each one on the wagon give a 1 liner why for my tiny brain why.

[nomnomnom]

Q: why haven't you moved your vote to anothe wagon?

A: because I haven't felt as good about the other wagons, although i would compromise on them if necessary

normal, sane person logic: oh, i see, that makes sense

nero cain logic: oh my god u r scumz keeping the game dead by not starting wagons!

It's scummy logic when you consider he made this post explaining that I started his push by highlighting his weird vote logic and he answered with this

there is no way, noooo way that you spend this much time as town going through every single one of my posts, arguing about very little technicalities and inconsequential wording, quality it as "WTF" and that I'm "full of shit", only to settle on peta afterwards, after saying that you're not "worried about the day lynch" (???), I refuse to believe it

there are 6 days to get a lynch and alot of people are barely playing and many to catch up and give content. I don't think its particularly important that we decide the lynch right now. Also, by joining the Peta wagon I was joining the largest wagon. Nothing says I have to vote you just b/c I'm posting about you.

Basically accusing you of being scum for something he is doing himself

[Dwlee99]

Peta, I'm convinced that if I told you my favorite Wawa smoothie you'd think it was scum-indicative.

[VFP]

Peta, I'm convinced that if I told you my favorite Wawa smoothie you'd think it was scum-indicative.

What is it?

[Nero Cain]

really? how am i supposed to know that? a lot of the votes were earlygame sheepvotes, how am i to judge substance there

lmfao by paying attention to the game