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Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:44 pm
by skitter30
In post 968, Datisi wrote:i'm trying to think if it's fair to say "since when the hell do you think my scumgame is about *avoiding* conflict" and i don't think i have any immediate examples for why it *would* be fair to say that to you, i.e. what you should be familiar with
what do you think about me alignment-wise from all this? i feel like you're responding for responding's sake but i don't actually, like, see you *reading* anything from it
i mean exactly ...
and i'm really not, i just like bickering with people sometimes
i think you're being defensive but i'm not convinced it's super scum-indicative or anything (as i said before) and i'm not really getting anything ai out of this convo
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:44 pm
by Mare
In post 974, Mare wrote: In post 971, skitter30 wrote: In post 966, Mare wrote:Like you want to be ? but you're sitting here saying that he hasn't done anything AI which is patently false soooo.
that's not what i said, i said the things you're pushing him for are nai
(incidentally i also don't think he's done anything ai but i also haven't said that)
In post 964, skitter30 wrote: In post 959, catboi wrote:Kind of but "the stuff you're voting him for is a nulltell and it's a bad case" is different from "noo he's so townie you're wrong"
fair enuf!
and yeah i wouldn't really argue that he's townie (or scummy) here,
so much as he's done nothing ai
and pushing him is kinda ? to me
Nope! You said the things he's done aren't AI!
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:45 pm
by Datisi
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:45 pm
by skitter30
In post 973, Mare wrote:The wording of it?
"This post"/"this post".
Distancing himself from his thoughts/things he's saying when he's immediately saying it.
i don't really think that's ai either tbh
and wrt to the latter post - fair enuf!
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:46 pm
by skitter30
yes, which is why i just said i'm not inherently scumreading you for it >.>
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:47 pm
by Datisi
i feel like i should be giving thoughts on this skitt/mare fight considering it is happening as we speak, but literally the only thing that's coming to me is "lol is this theatre" because the fight feels like it was born out of... pretty much nothing?
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:47 pm
by catboi
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:47 pm
by Mare
Nope, not born out of nothing.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:48 pm
by Datisi
In post 975, skitter30 wrote:i think you're being defensive but i'm not convinced it's super scum-indicative or anything (as i said before) and i'm not really getting anything ai out of this convo
i took "not convinced it's super scum-indicative" to mean "it's scum-indicative, but not greatly so"
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:48 pm
by Mare
Still sticking by my read, don't care about the other posts in town games. Way he worded it was the same.
Distancing from his own ideas.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm
by catboi
I think Mare is coming off worse here mostly because I don't get why she's this up in arms over disagreement on a read ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm
by skitter30
In post 980, Datisi wrote:i feel like i should be giving thoughts on this skitt/mare fight considering it is happening as we speak, but literally the only thing that's coming to me is "lol is this theatre" because the fight feels like it was born out of... pretty much nothing?
i mean i'm not sure it's born out of nothing ... she's pushing cakez for basically nothing so
pedit ok so you're:
-ignoring counter evidence
- scumreading someone for pointing out the basis of your scumread is flawed
- voting her for pointing that out while insisting you have a super strong sr on cakez
ok then
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm
by Datisi
maybe born out of nothing is a wrong word, but it feels like this argument could have been over much more quickly and calmly and instead it's escalated into voting when to me it looks like there was kinda no need to? it feels like it's being fueled to continue past its natural point
now, typing that out i realize town sometimes does vote in order to sort better but it still felt unnatural to me goddammit
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:49 pm
by catboi
In post 984, Mare wrote:Still sticking by my read, don't care about the other posts in town games. Way he worded it was the same.
Distancing from his own ideas.
weird hill to die on
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:50 pm
by skitter30
In post 983, Datisi wrote: In post 975, skitter30 wrote:i think you're being defensive but i'm not convinced it's super scum-indicative or anything (as i said before) and i'm not really getting anything ai out of this convo
i took "not convinced it's super scum-indicative" to mean "it's scum-indicative, but not greatly so"
eh maybe i did a bad job of explaining how scummy i found this
this whole thing is 'something that struck me as weird and worth probing and if i had to pick a side probably slightly on the scummier side than townie side' but isn't 'something i actually scumread'
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:50 pm
by Mare
Thumbs up!
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:51 pm
by skitter30
mare are you ok?
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:52 pm
by Mare
In post 985, catboi wrote:I think Mare is coming off worse here mostly because I don't get why she's this up in arms over disagreement on a read ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Because it's going to turn out again like the last game where my thoughts on things are weird, until there is basis in mechanical action, etc etc. It's frustrating and unfun when I try to play like this again and again and I am consistently felt out as weird despite trying to apply myself to the game in a different way.
So, fuck it, doubling down on the stuff that I think is right.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:52 pm
by Mare
Shrug.
Gonna leave for now.
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:53 pm
by skitter30
ok i hope things get better soon <3
maybe let's try this again tomorrow
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:56 pm
by SirCakez
im just gonna skim to catchup bc otherwise I'm never gonna make it
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:56 pm
by skitter30
lol
maybe just tell me your thoughts ont he last like 3 pages?
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:59 pm
by catboi
In post 834, Andante wrote: In post 830, Something_Smart wrote:
I literally spent the entirety of the last PYP game I played correctly calling the top drafter scum
ahhh I see, so the plan is to just call me scum in hopes I flip scum, so that you can then go "I have a 100% success rate at catching scum based on draft order!" only issue with that plan is I'm not scum lol
Why are you assuming he's saying this to you as town?
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 12:59 pm
by catboi
Hi we were just having a very fun discussion about you
Posted: Tue Dec 28, 2021 1:02 pm
by catboi
S_S is actually Okay as I resume catching up from 33-34
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