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So where u at right now? I thought we were on the same page with our reads but i guess you just started scumreading me for… defending you? Really?
Like i’m trying to understand your mindset. So you think i am scum and decided to not vote you but instead Toog because i wanted to pocket you for later and my townread on you is fake because you don’t trust town!me to have good gut reads. Is that it?

I think it’s vital to argue about these sorts of things early be4 deadline makes things hectic.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something Smart

If we aren't picking between Ircher's dichotomy, this is where I'm at.

If people want me eliminated though, they need to shit or get off the pot. This day is garbage enough as it is.

Everyone is in such a bad mood today.

I like that you are thinking outside of the box though Toog.
Now you’re thinking with portals!

I think I probably just need a break from Mafia for a while after this game. I haven't felt "into" a game since FFXIV, even Control was a game I thought I'd be hyped for but ended up just going through the motions. I just like to play because it takes my mind off the stresses in real life with my work schedule and what not.

In post 975, NorwegianboyEE wrote:So where u at right now? I thought we were on the same page with our reads but i guess you just started scumreading me for… defending you? Really?
Like i’m trying to understand your mindset. So you think i am scum and decided to not vote you but instead Toog because i wanted to pocket you for later and my townread on you is fake because you don’t trust town!me to have good gut reads. Is that it?

If Toogeloo is town then me vs Toogeloo is TvT.

In that case.

If Wallflower is town.

The best elim for mafia is Toogeloo.

because Wallflower is absolutely convinced I am mafia.

You lim tooges today,

Tommorrow Wallflower votes me - game over.


I guess I'm more scumreading you for directly buying into Ircher's Dichotomy - when you really should have absolutely 0 respect for Ircher's townplay or worldview because its utter garbage

Ircher is conftown

but Ircher is not really playign this game.

Ircher has not put in even 10% of the effort I have put into this game.

This is not disrespect to ircher

people have different prioities in life.

Its probably BETTER for people to be less tryhard like me and more lackadaisical like Ircher.

But none of that explains why you are fine with the entire town just following along with Ircher's dichotomy which frankly is game losing if Toogeloo is actually town here.

I am angry about a lot of things and it makes me unbearable to play with sometimes if you do not have my level of intensity so I do understand why people want to kill me here.

In post 896, Wallflower wrote:I think once they arr flipped things will become a lot clearer.

I'm a bit curious. How do you think things will be clearer after a Tracer flip?

In post 977, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something Smart

Present your case please.

In post 984, Ircher wrote:

In post 896, Wallflower wrote:I think once they arr flipped things will become a lot clearer.

I'm a bit curious. How do you think things will be clearer after a Tracer flip?

she probly thinks i flip mafia and life is all rainbows and shit

In post 985, Ircher wrote:

In post 977, Toogeloo wrote:UNVOTE:
VOTE: Something Smart

Present your case please.

I didn't like the MegA wagon, and I don't think SS should be anywhere near LimLo given the relative unknown nature of the slot. It's cagey. I doubt it even gets off the ground, but if we are just circle jerking anyways, so...

In post 928, Ircher wrote:Picking a side forces you to make a commitment and that commitment in turn associates you with others. That's valuable information down the road even if it may not be in the immediate future.

I guess...? The problem is that if I'm scum I can make the choice with strategy in mind, whereas if I'm town I can't do that and have to just go with what I actually feel, so the "information" that's created might end up being more misleading than actually helpful.

In post 952, Tracer Bullet wrote:if me/tooge r tvt, mafia dont have a reason to be invested in which of us dies

Unless they're someone who's afraid of you. Which is probably everyone here?

In post 977, Toogeloo wrote:If we aren't picking between Ircher's dichotomy, this is where I'm at.

How come? What's your read on Tracer, after everything that's happened?

In post 979, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I like that you are thinking outside of the box though Toog.
Now you’re thinking with portals!

Ah yeah, when all else fails, vote the guy with the charisma of a medium-sized rock.

I honestly feel like if the game were bigger, Pooky would be trying to bury me if he were scum. The issue is the game size, and his constant vote count kind of prevents him from just being brazen about it since after my flip, he would still likely get his comeuppance as scum. So how does he play in order to get time to either get his partner further or himself further as a result? My confidence in scum Tracer is probably 65-ish% and it's entirely based on the flash wagon at end of day yesterday and the reads of the IC township. MegA's wagon only served to save Tracer because he was E-1 at the time. I don't think SS or I were even E-2.

I don't even get this game currently because today both Tracer and I were at E-1 for hours with everyone posting.

In post 993, Toogeloo wrote:I don't even get this game currently because today both Tracer and I were at E-1 for hours with everyone posting.

This is what makes me doubt S_S being scum. He could have just hammered someone and it wouldn't have been problematic for them?

In post 930, Tracer Bullet wrote:

In post 926, NorwegianboyEE wrote:

In post 924, Tracer Bullet wrote:I'm not really willing to bet the entire game that Toogeloo flips mafia here.

I think there's a decent chance town are death tunneling me for shit reasons so this game is never going to be winnable as long as I'm alive.

and I'd rather die here than be a walking mislim at elo

I think you're just justifying your own exit from the game rather than seriously arguing self-hammering as town will be in favour of towns wincon.

if wallflower is town then if we mislim today she will vote me and we will lose

this is just a fact

I don't think this is representative of how I have played so far. On Day 1, Toogeloo was my preferred vote option over you, but Day 2 after reconsideration I have decided that Toogeloo is more likely town. It is true that I strongly think you are scum and I think that a lot of this is you pulling out everything you can to stay alive as scum, but I'll always take new information into account and re-evaluate.

In post 984, Ircher wrote:

In post 896, Wallflower wrote:I think once they arr flipped things will become a lot clearer.

I'm a bit curious. How do you think things will be clearer after a Tracer flip?

I'm still pretty confident in Tracer being scum

Also I think it's Tracer/RCE

I don't think Toogeloo or S_S are scum.

NorwegianBoy I get a bit paranoid of every so often, but I think that's probably silly.

Also,

The worst and Ircher both thought Tracer was scum.
I was probably the highest combined townread of Ircher/the worst and I think Tracer is scum.

I really think this is what we need to do

In post 994, Wallflower wrote:

In post 993, Toogeloo wrote:I don't even get this game currently because today both Tracer and I were at E-1 for hours with everyone posting.

This is what makes me doubt S_S being scum. He could have just hammered someone and it wouldn't have been problematic for them?

except SS as scum being unable to hammer is literally what happens to him