[OLD] Open Setup Ideas and Discussion

[Majiffy]

Sounds interesting. PM me the setup so I can look at it later, I may run it in the near future; if so, I'll PM you to /in for it.

[Majiffy]

Your martyr is already an essentially more powerful version of a vig - he kills scum or confirms town.

[Majiffy]

2 Martyrs, 1 Cleric (cultable), 7 VT
1 Diviner
1 Cult Leader, 3-shot OR odd-night only

[Majiffy]

Might also be interesting to make the Diviner non-cultable such that cult needs to try to seek him out as a lynch target but it would be sub-optimal for him to out cult on account of the fact that cult needs to "win" for him to win.

[Majiffy]

Ya the issue with the cultable diviner we were discussing was that diviner could break late-game safegaurds by hammering an l-1 towny and claiming deviner to be culted as a joint-win scenario instead of forcing cult to find him on thier own. Llama pointing that out made me reconsider his cultability.

Depending on where you're at with my modified version of the cult this may or may not work - even night, or out of shots. And just because they can get away with it doesn't mean it shouldn't be a plausible scenario; Diviner actually has the shittiest role in the game up until that point.

If cleric can be culted - he really cant clear anyone by staying on the same target because he could easily say he was on a cult if he were culted early game.

I'm not following here; if Cleric is on the same person as cult is on, that person

dies town

. Where is he clearing anyone?

The other thing about ceric being cultable is that i feel like there should be some sort of security padding in a mafia-free cultgame.

?

also from your assesment comparing cleric to a vig i think you may misunderstand the role...

I was comparing Martyr to a vig...

[Majiffy]

You don't say that to a musician ever.