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Post Post #43 (isolation #0) » Mon Feb 09, 2009 3:54 pm

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vote: gamma
yawetog is obv noobtown
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Post Post #53 (isolation #1) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 3:36 am

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gamma is not voting me


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Post Post #68 (isolation #2) » Wed Feb 11, 2009 12:53 pm

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I'm reluctant to vote charter just yet, as I always find him scummy, but I for the most part agree with Megatheory's analysis there.
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Post Post #75 (isolation #3) » Thu Feb 12, 2009 5:18 am

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unvote, vote: charter
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Post Post #99 (isolation #4) » Fri Feb 13, 2009 6:47 pm

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charter, too much wifom. We get into outguessing the mod if we nameclaim. This is friggin monopoly mafia. who the hell knows who will be on what side?

sounds like scum fishing for possible town power based on flavor.
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Post Post #105 (isolation #5) » Sat Feb 14, 2009 5:57 pm

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Gamma wrote:
Nightfall wrote:notmoral?
what i mean is (reading from the Wiki board): New York Avenue, St. James Place, they don't sound like scum terms.

Jail and GO sounds pretty easy, but among others, I'm not so sure.
Jail could be like a jailer though. So not even that is sure.
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Post Post #114 (isolation #6) » Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:55 am

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charter wrote:From past experience, scum got NOTHING out massnameclaim but town was able to catch them.
that may be true but look at the game we are in. how is nameclaiming going to help?
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Post Post #165 (isolation #7) » Fri Feb 20, 2009 3:01 pm

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man charter, you REALLY need to learn to read. we KNOW you aren't talking about roleclaiming. Nameclaiming is also bad.
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Post Post #178 (isolation #8) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 11:22 am

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charter wrote:
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charter wrote: Nightfall is definately scum, he has still not added anything to this game.
Excuse me... I was one of the very first people to argue against your idea of mass name claiming and have continued to debate that issue with you as you haven't seemed to want to give it up... What else have you contributed?
Given opinions on quite a few people. You haven't.
this is a bullshit reason to call someone definitely scum. just sayin.
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Post Post #181 (isolation #9) » Sun Feb 22, 2009 4:45 pm

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charter wrote:You actually think I could tell that he was definately scum from like page three? Not possible...
seeing as that's what you said…
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Post Post #184 (isolation #10) » Mon Feb 23, 2009 1:28 pm

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pacman281292 wrote:umm... L-1...
charter, can you roleclaim please?
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Post Post #201 (isolation #11) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 2:06 pm

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who would want to kill empking…

also i think gamma is on to something
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Post Post #203 (isolation #12) » Sun Mar 01, 2009 5:34 pm

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I really don' think we will be able to get much from the charter wagon. Hw looked so damn scummy…sigh. I can never read him.
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Post Post #208 (isolation #13) » Mon Mar 02, 2009 4:18 pm

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Alabaska J wrote:I really don' think we will be able to get much from the charter wagon. Hw looked so damn scummy…sigh. I can never read him.
was i drunk lol usually i never make spelling errors.

yeah well enough dwelling on charter; as I said earlier he always looks scummy to me

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Post Post #217 (isolation #14) » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:44 pm

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Jebus wrote:Post 43 - Random (?) vote on gamma, reason that 'yawetag is obv noobtown'
Post 53 - Defends his vote by saying noobs don't play solely in noob games. This is where 43 starts to look scummy.
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Post Post #218 (isolation #15) » Tue Mar 03, 2009 1:47 pm

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also grimmy, the name thing does nothing to help the town. i refuse to turn this into "let's outguess the mod!"

and Jebus, I think you may be on to something with this Yawetog thing. Those things you quoted look pretty fishy. Still wanna hear from gamma first though.
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Post Post #221 (isolation #16) » Tue Mar 03, 2009 2:18 pm

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Grimmy wrote:this whole game is about speculation. it support the "No Nameclaim" idea though, imho.
speculation and outguessing the mod are two very different things. good to now that you are on the same page in regards to nameclaiming though
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Post Post #234 (isolation #17) » Wed Mar 04, 2009 2:25 pm

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yawetag wrote:Why should I answer questions when mine have been ignored?
because there is no reason on god's green earth why you should sink to the level of an anti-town player based on pure spite?
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Post Post #245 (isolation #18) » Thu Mar 05, 2009 1:47 pm

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Alabaska J wrote:
Jebus wrote:Post 43 - Random (?) vote on gamma, reason that 'yawetag is obv noobtown'
Post 53 - Defends his vote by saying noobs don't play solely in noob games. This is where 43 starts to look scummy.
what
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Post Post #247 (isolation #19) » Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:32 pm

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Nightfall wrote:Don't worry Grimmy, I got it ;)

Alabaska J wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:
Jebus wrote:Post 43 - Random (?) vote on gamma, reason that 'yawetag is obv noobtown'
Post 53 - Defends his vote by saying noobs don't play solely in noob games. This is where 43 starts to look scummy.
what
Jebus please clarify
Clarify what?
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Post Post #252 (isolation #20) » Fri Mar 06, 2009 3:10 pm

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Nightfall wrote::/
No, but I think what he wrote is pretty straight forward.
Well then can you show me what he means?

Also, although it is total wifom i dislike gamma exit from this game very much, as his replacement certainly won't be able to explain his actions.
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Post Post #259 (isolation #21) » Sun Mar 08, 2009 6:10 am

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Nightfall wrote:
Spolium wrote:Oh hi Nightfall, how's the citation hunt coming along?
In the house of mirriors game I'm in we're at l-3 because Zwet posted a
lot of shocked emoticons...
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 5&start=50
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Post Post #262 (isolation #22) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:50 am

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mod i quoted his post you might want to remove the link form mine too
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Post Post #264 (isolation #23) » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:58 pm

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This game seems to be going by really slow. time for some more analysis!
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Post Post #271 (isolation #24) » Wed Mar 11, 2009 1:20 pm

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It seems to me like nightfall and spolium are really splitting hairs. i think he was just warning of a quicklynch and wouldn't look into it unless the person who would have been lynched turns up scum and one can make a case for him being his scumbuddy. right now though, i think it is pointless.
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Post Post #277 (isolation #25) » Thu Mar 12, 2009 2:50 am

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Spolium wrote:ywaeatagag.
ahahahahahahahaha

on a more serious note, are you guys talking about the three votes on gamma today or what? looking back i'm having trouble pinpointing which wagon you guys are talking about.
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Post Post #290 (isolation #26) » Fri Mar 13, 2009 4:31 pm

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so did you not see his post earlier ac? or were you just trying to pressure him into more analysis?
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Post Post #295 (isolation #27) » Sun Mar 15, 2009 5:25 am

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ac1983fan wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:so did you not see his post earlier ac? or were you just trying to pressure him into more analysis?
Again, he had only made one large, non-joke post at the time of my voting him, which was mostly a list of possible role names. So kinda, although I'm willing to go back to voting him if he starts posting non-contribution posts again.
Also, why don't you post some analysis, Alabaska?
speaking of not posting a lot of analysis, you've posted shockingly little yourself. one post on how you thought grimmy was scummy and then you take it back immediately after one post defending himself. grimmy was hardly the biggest offender. if you were gonna go after people for not contributing, we have people who don't even seem to post anymore. i'm finding you fairly hypocritical right now.
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Post Post #302 (isolation #28) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 12:25 pm

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ac1983fan wrote:Grimmy seemed incredibly anti-town
i don't think i'd go that far.
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Post Post #304 (isolation #29) » Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:49 pm

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ac1983fan wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:
ac1983fan wrote:Grimmy seemed incredibly anti-town
i don't think i'd go that far.
That's you. Having the minimal number of posts not to get prodded containing almost no content is incredibly anti-town to me.
didn't grimmy also replace in?
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Post Post #308 (isolation #30) » Tue Mar 17, 2009 4:38 pm

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spolium what could nightfall gain from saying what he said?
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Jebus wrote:Nightfall, why is a 3 man wagon (putting whoever it was at L-4) in the RVS scummy?
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Post Post #319 (isolation #32) » Sat Mar 21, 2009 1:10 pm

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well, seeing as it is the random voting stage, quicklynches are usually abandoned.

i have seen one game where one did happen though. lemme rummage a bit…
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Nevermind; wasn't like what i was thinking
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Post Post #335 (isolation #34) » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:09 pm

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vote: Nightfall


that should spur things a bit i think
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Post Post #337 (isolation #35) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 11:40 am

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Nightfall wrote:*groan*
I'm keeping my Vote on ooba for now.
I really dislike how you've switched to a lurker lynch all of a sudden.
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Post Post #339 (isolation #36) » Wed Mar 25, 2009 4:24 pm

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Nightfall wrote:Ooba is Gamma's replacement.
That's why I am voting him.
I thought Gamma was scum day one,
and I want to hear from his replacement.
well then i dislike how you ended the argument with spolium. either way you are giving me bad vibes.
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Post Post #345 (isolation #37) » Thu Mar 26, 2009 1:54 pm

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Zilla wrote:I don't like how AJ just switched his reasons for voting Nightfall...

I think I may have to read over this game one more time. I also don't like the latest turns discussion has taken.
i can't have multiple reasons i dislike the guy?
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Post Post #382 (isolation #38) » Wed Apr 01, 2009 5:59 pm

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now that drama is over i'll be able to post

tomorrow for sure
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Post Post #389 (isolation #39) » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:03 am

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Spolium wrote:I don't think you see what I'm getting at Zilla, but I'll settle for continuing to find those unsupported declarations suspicious for now.
alabaska wrote:now that drama is over i'll be able to post
That's the worst reason not to post that I've ever seen.

FoS: alabaska
as in my high school state drama competition? sheesh we had rehearsals everyday for like 4+ hours leading up to the contest. just cuz you aren't a lover of the arts doesn't mean they don't take up time
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Post Post #390 (isolation #40) » Fri Apr 03, 2009 9:06 am

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ac1983fan wrote:Haven't I already stated my reasons? To clarify: Asking for analysis when giving none of his own, voting for nightfall to "spice things up" or whatever, when I find Nightfall to be pro-town and trying to end a distracting conversation.
just because i'm not analyzing doesn't mean other people aren't too.

and i gave reasons for voting nightfall thank you very much, and i'm sorry you think he is the epitome of townieness (although you've waited until trying to make a half-assed case against me to state this), but i disagree.
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Post Post #403 (isolation #41) » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:12 pm

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Whaaaaaaa…

Is there actually a case on me other than that I need to post more content?
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Post Post #404 (isolation #42) » Sun Apr 05, 2009 3:15 pm

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Also I'm Officer Edgar Mallory, a pro-town roleblocker.
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Post Post #406 (isolation #43) » Sun Apr 05, 2009 4:11 pm

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i'll probably be lynched, but here's one last analysis for use when i turn up town

numberfourteen

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0: agrees with former iteration of himself, Megatheory, about charter on day one. criticizes Jebus for following gamma day one, although that was more of a random vote than anything else and hardly needed bringing up. there were better things to comment on, why that specifically? almost as though he gave a half-assed reading and wanted to say something that sounded good and wouldn't really be looked at. meh. besides, answering the question really wasn't that big of a deal. it WAS odd that he refused. took a weird stance early on then it faded away.
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5: tries to save face when i call him out on the flip-flop, but looks more ridiculous looking back. asks me again to post analysis when, in reality, he has really posted anything of standing merit either.
6: defends himself after i call him out. still adheres that grimmy became townie with one post. again says i need to post more analysis. doesn't actually look at what i've posted so far
7: makes a useless post about not making useless posts. also seems overly competitive for some reason, although that doesn't really mean anything about alignment as far as i can tell.
8: same as above.
9: reaffirms that he used to think grimmy as anti-town for not having a lot of content. apparently, only scum are lurkers and nothing else. can he not find a non-lurker lynch?
10: clarifies his previous suspicions of grimmy for me. is apparently unaware that many people make those kinds of posts, not just scum.
11: tells us he will be v/la
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13: ironically makes a checking-in post
14: votes me with the same gusto as grimmy before me. gives no reasons
15: clarifies, again with the analysis thing (of which he himself is guilty) and of my vote on nightfall for "whatever" reason it was for, proving he doesn't read the thread. also, because he finds nightfall pro-town, everyone who thinks he isn't is scum. BUDDYING ALERT
16: claims he just has a pro-town vibe from nightfall. because i disagree with a vibe of his, i am scum. brilliant. also states that he has seen examples of the RVS ending due to suspicious bandwagons. this has nothing to do with what was being argued; nightfall had claimed that there was a possibility of a quicklynch while spolium disagreed.
17: being "willing to answer questions" made nightfall pro-town, yet doing the opposite of that doesn't make yaw scummy? interesting. also misrepresents the argument of spolium and nightfall. no one contests that the RVS is ended by weird bandwagons, just whether or not those wagons may lead to quicklynches commonly.
18: backs off previously made statement in an eerily similar fashion to what nightfall did when being questioned by spolium.
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20: admits i'm a lurker lynch. yaaaaaaaaaaaay

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Post Post #423 (isolation #44) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 12:20 pm

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sorry i haven't had time

anyway i blocked ac1983fan because if he was scum and had seen my claim (which i threw out there because i thought i would be deadline lynched with the most votes as i got my games confused) because he knew he would be getting rid of a power role for sure.

blocked gamma the night before.
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ac1983fan wrote: Today, I googled Officer Edgar Mallory, and I am apparantly an idiot, because officer edgar mallory is apparantly the name of the GO TO JAIL guy on the monopoly board. FML.
unvote
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URGH.
I was just going to post this.
But I don't think that really clears Ala even if his claim is true.
When I read his claim I thought two WIFOM things.

1 - Aren't roleblockers more often scum roles then town roles?
(In my experience I believe this is true but for others it might differ.)

2 - In the game of Monopoly you want to buy up properties and "get out of jail" free or otherwise. In the game the cop sends you to jail, a usually negative outcome to a card or a die roll. Would Edgar more likely be scum in this game then?

I don't think this is enough for a vote, but I will add my name to the list of people giving ALa an
FOS: Ala


*Not saying it isn't a possibility but I would find it odd if our get out of jail free card and our jailer were on the same team.
1-roleblockers are not necessarily town or scum unless you are playing epicmafia in which hookers (roleblockers) are always scum. they are associated more with scum because it is a common structure in newbie games to have a scum blocker; however outside of road to rome there is no affiliation. i'd hate to be lynched on a case of outguessing the mod. Also, this is WIFOM, but if i was scum i'd probably have chosen a better claim than a role that is somewhat associated with scum.

2-i usually think of it as the other way around-the person going to jail (i.e. the triple doubler) is being scummy and i am rectifying the situation. officers of the law are usually pro-town figures.

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Post Post #424 (isolation #45) » Fri Apr 10, 2009 2:51 pm

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see i look at it as if you role three doubles or land on a certain space, you are breaking a law and i send you to jail. i'm not the anbtagonizer, i'm just following orders.

who replaced gamma? if they or ac can confirm my ability that would help.
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Post Post #431 (isolation #46) » Sat Apr 11, 2009 9:29 am

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Jebus wrote:
Vote: Alabaska


For the sake of having my vote somewhere at the moment. Also, note my sig - am busy till this weekend.
it is too early in the day for this.
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Post Post #436 (isolation #47) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:24 pm

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Zilla wrote:I don't see any logic here. Because he saw your claim, if he was scum, "he knew he would be getting rid of a power role for sure." Isn't that true of ANYONE who is scum?
you're right. i thought him scum the most, so i blocked him to try and save my own ass.
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Post Post #437 (isolation #48) » Sun Apr 12, 2009 4:25 pm

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Jebus wrote:
Zilla wrote:.... your sig says "till April 8" and it is now April 9th (almost 10th)
That was the projected time of my stuffs being out of the way, turns out that I'm busy till either tomorrow or as late as wednesday. Will be very active after that, though.
Sigh. hurry up so you can respond.

i know it's wifom but this continuing absence rubs me the wrong way.
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Post Post #445 (isolation #49) » Tue Apr 14, 2009 5:28 pm

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Zilla wrote:
Grimmy wrote:
Zilla wrote:I propose we pressure lurkers back into the game, and I'd like to start with the people who haven't contributed much in their posts anyway, hence Alabaska.
if it is for this reason, then I would be a hypocrite when my work flow outweighs my mafia time and I post rarely.

grimmy
answering (sort of) the zillaquestion.

Who else is not voting and who are our lynch options at this point?
I don't like this: as if the case on Alabaska is just because he's not posting? No. Again, I'm very critical of Grimmy if Alabaska comes up scum.

More pressure perhaps? Alabaska hasn't taken the hint, his latest posts are just "It's too early for a vote on me" OMGUS on Jebus and waiting for his... response. To a poor OMGUS vote.

Case on Alabaska: the way he's doing his summaries makes them very null. They're just as easily opportunistic scum as they are town looking for scum, and his final words on them are unconvincing. There's his vote on Nightfall that went from "This is just to get discussion going" to "I disagree with lurker lynching" to "Those reasons didn't work, so I don't like how you argued with Spoilum"

So, AJ, please post a short writeup of what you think of all the players in the game.
Did you see Jebus' post? he didn't vote for a reason he voted me because he felt he needed to have his vote somewhere. late in the day i could understand this but this early? it makes no sense.

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Post Post #478 (isolation #50) » Sat Apr 18, 2009 2:48 pm

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sorry i've been in portland and realized i didn't hit submit on the change of my sig so no one knew i was gone. sorry for that everyone. catching up.
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Post Post #483 (isolation #51) » Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:15 pm

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Jebus wrote:
i'll probably be lynched, but here's one last analysis for use
when i turn up town
This bothers me. A lot.
i thought i was about to be lynched by the deadline. i was mistaken.

god with all the replacements in this game, analysis is so difficult

jebus' inconsistency from yawetag to zilla bothers me as well, as does his "why not" attitude at the beginning of the game. seems kinda like a cop-out instead of providing an actual answer as to why he supports doing one thing. also unvoting charter at the time he did bothers me a little. especially since his attitude towards charter earlier in the game seemed to have to do with challenging his "i dare you to lynch me" assertion, i find it odd that he was worried enough about charter being hammered as to unvote. while i don't find worrying about a quickhammer to be scummy, when compared with said earlier behavior, I become suspicious that the person in question is just trying look town.

braeden needs to be replaced. ironically enough, his last post (1.5 months ago) was saying that he was not actually being replaced.

good first post by the fonz

ooba NEEDS to also be replaced

the two people nightfall argued with the most both died and turned up town. and his 33rd post and its ethos-based argument rubs me the wrong way. actually the way he argued that whole thing rubbed me the wrong way.

zilla what argument exactly have i not responded to? i'm sure its there but other than you wanting me to talk about everyone in the game, i can't see what i haven't responded to…please help me out here.
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Post Post #490 (isolation #52) » Mon Apr 20, 2009 10:05 am

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Jebus wrote:
Zilla wrote:Jebus, why would you request Ooba before Braeden?
See page 9, post 200. Ooba replaced Gamma. With the replacement for them, we've got something to pick on, as opposed to Braeden, who's done practically nothing thus far.
agreed.

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Post Post #492 (isolation #53) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 9:23 am

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anybody here?
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Post Post #498 (isolation #54) » Tue Apr 21, 2009 5:20 pm

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Zilla wrote:Personally, I think the severity of the punishment should befit the severity of the breach. Obviously that rule is there for a reason, and the reason is to protect ongoing games from influencing each other. I'd say modkilling is warranted in situations where someone does something that actively influences the games, and not warranted when it's something benign or will not impact the other game.

For instance, "He was scum in this game where he was already lynched, and he had similar behavior" is more for warning than for modkilling, while "We're (living) masons in this (ongoing) game, so I know what she thinks like" is total grounds for modkilling.

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Post Post #503 (isolation #55) » Wed Apr 22, 2009 5:06 pm

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ac1983fan wrote:Yeah, I'm back....

vote: relax the punishment on ongoing game discussion being a modkillable offense


Anyway, I still think Alabaska is the best lynch for the day.
can you please lay down a formal case against me? or at least link to your posts attacking me in one place? i'm having a really hard time defending myself against you any more than apologizing for not being more active earlier.
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Post Post #524 (isolation #56) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:50 pm

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alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support. post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

the reasons i brought out new reasons were because i didn't put them in my post when i voted so of course they weren't gonna be in the original post.

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Post Post #525 (isolation #57) » Fri Apr 24, 2009 4:53 pm

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Zilla wrote:Huh, I had forgotten my case in all this down time.

unvote: Jebus
Vote: Alabaska J


Thanks to AC for reminding me what it was. I forgot about his Nightfall weirdness.

I'm still suspicious of Jebus, and I'll remain suspicious regardless of Alabaska's flip, but I do think Alabaska is likely scum.
wait you think his case about nightfall has merit? read my post, then say if you agree with him still.
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Post Post #531 (isolation #58) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 9:59 am

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Alabaska J wrote:alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support.
post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

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If you thought it was pointless, then why is it suspicious that nightfall wanted out of a pointless discussion?
read please. i said it was the
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Post Post #532 (isolation #59) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:00 am

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Alabaska J wrote:
ac1983fan wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:alright well first time he was in the right so i of course i would defend him and that had nothing to do with the argument with spolium, and post thirty is not me defending him: i'm asking for clarification on spolium's case so i can see who i want to support.
post 24 is not defending him either. i said his and spolium's argument was pointless. this was also before nightfall backed out of spolium's argument suspiciously.

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If you thought it was pointless, then why is it suspicious that nightfall wanted out of a pointless discussion?
read please. i said it was the
way
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Post Post #533 (isolation #60) » Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:00 am

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Zilla wrote:^ No, I totally don't buy it at all. Reading the posts in their original context, your original reason was just to get things going and you had no real motive to actually suspect Nightfall. Then suddenly you had a whole host of reasons to fall back on. It's especially shady that once your initial reasons were disproven, you bring out other reasons after the fact. There's absolutely no reason not to include them in the first post.

Also, you seem boastful of your excuse, as though that should take care of any suspicion on you ever, and it looks like "Yay, me, for figuring a way out of this! I award myself a cookie."

No cookie for you.
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Post Post #549 (isolation #61) » Sun Apr 26, 2009 11:21 am

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Zilla wrote:oy, I reread Alabaska in isolation, and I'd vote him harder if I could.

You dropped your case on Nightfall for NO reason at all, instead switching to Jebus because "It's too early to (vote me)." Nowhere do you explain why you consider Nightfall's disengage scummy. Your own post back then was "either way, you're giving me bad vibes," which amounts to "I'm accusing you, but I don't actually know the reasons why I'm accusing you, so it's just bad vibes."

Also, sorry about earlier with the drama thing, it was ambiguous if you meant Theater or drama in the game, and I thought you meant drama in the game was keeping you from posting.

Lastly, I'm thinking the early votes between you and Jebus were just showmanship for distancing.

I'm very interested in hearing your opinion on Nightfall right now.
My case on nightfall was never that great, but i disliked the way he dropped the argument. it seemed like spolium had kind of gotten a one up on him, and suddenly he agrees that the discussion is pointless? doesn't sit well with me. and if you are accusing me of basing a case partly off of bad vibes, then you should also be looking at ac1983fan, because that's half of his case on me. but because my case wasn't that great, once Jebus did something very scummy, i had no qualms with switching over to him.

Also, can you please answer the questions i asked of you? if you read me in isolation, you HAD to have seen them, so i'm curious as to why you didn't answer them in your post.

DGB, please explain Jebus and Fonz for me, as well as telling me what the asterisks mean.
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Post Post #566 (isolation #62) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 12:19 pm

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Zilla wrote:To me, it looks like you rode the fence until someone gave you an excuse to vote them, and it was a pretty lame excuse.
Actually, pretty much everybody was waiting for an excuse to vote someone. I tried to jump start things.
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Post Post #567 (isolation #63) » Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:21 pm

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Jebus wrote:I'm willing to hammer Alabaska, if we're ready for it.

Also, awaiting what DGB might have to say.
and people say this guy is scummier than me?

sheesh.

there's one thing i think that i have done that is very townie that no one has said yet. i can't say, or else it will look like i'm just pointing out something and it will turn into WIFOM. I hope someone points it out sooner or later.
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Post Post #569 (isolation #64) » Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:26 am

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Zilla wrote:^ Except now you've basically done everything required to earn "just pointing out something and it will turn into WIFOM." If you mean roleclaiming, that's not townie. If you mean providing your targets, that's WIFOM and completely null. Other than that, I don't know what you could be talking about.
you don't know what i'm talking about. and i haven't turned it into WIFOM because i haven't said it.
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Post Post #575 (isolation #65) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:54 am

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ac1983fan wrote:Ala, your defense is horrible.
"Oh guys, I did something townie, but I won't say what... go find it"
Could also mean
"Hey I'm scum trying to grasp for my life and see if i can get anyone to look through my posts and find something townie."
That is what I think you are doing here.
i'm not defending myself with it

i'm just frustrated.
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Post Post #576 (isolation #66) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:57 am

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Alabaska J wrote:My case on nightfall was never that great, but i disliked the way he dropped the argument. it seemed like spolium had kind of gotten a one up on him, and suddenly he agrees that the discussion is pointless? doesn't sit well with me.
How do you figure Spolium got one up on me?
I "paused" discussions with him because I wanted to hear more of a discussion from other players, and because we had gone on for so long already that it didn't seem like future discussion would change either of our opinions.
You couldn't find an example. You kept decreasing the frequency of the possibility of such a lynch happening until BAM you drop the argument completely.
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Post Post #587 (isolation #67) » Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:42 pm

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Zilla wrote:Alabaska J, for the love of god, if you're town, post your damn defense.
dear god i have.

for some reason you just keep ignoring it.

what more do you fucking want???!?!?!?!!!!??
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Post Post #606 (isolation #68) » Fri May 01, 2009 4:15 pm

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alright folks.

Zilla, point out all of the questions i haven't answered.

Zilla, tell me if you think that saying people need to post more when the game is slow, even if the person saying it hasn't contributed a lot is justification for a scum case. since then, i've posted content. other people, such as jebus and the fonz (until recently) continued to active lurk, and you haven't looked at them the same way you've looked at me. you are tunneling bad.

also, you said ac1983fan had a good post? you said yourself you didn't fully agree with his reasons:
Zilla wrote:Those "posts" aren't a part of my case on you. I can see where ac1983fan is coming from, but I don't agree you were outright defending Nightfall.
the fishy timing of my claim? i said i thought i was going to be hammered because i had the most votes at deadline, so i claimed and spilled my guts with some last second content. i think the fact that i thought i was going to be hammered and yet still bothered writing a pbpa of ac1983fan so that people would know what i thought of him before i died is indicative of town. scum wouldn't take the time. but whatever.
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Post Post #608 (isolation #69) » Sat May 02, 2009 4:05 pm

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Zilla wrote:
Alabaska J wrote:Zilla, point out all of the questions i haven't answered.
I'm not accusing you of not answering anything except that "I did a pro-town thing!" bit. You like to include this, as if my case is based on you not answering something.
Zilla wrote:Case on alabaska, his dodging of questioning,
please.
Zilla wrote:Which reminds me, you did neglect to answer my question on what you thought of Nightfall now.
Alabaska J wrote:but because my case wasn't that great, once Jebus did something very scummy, i had no qualms with switching over to him.
you must have missed this too. don't like him but he's near the bottom of my scumlist

also you are tunneling so hard right now. and i don't like how one post calling for more content separates me from all of the other active lurkers in the game, especially since i have rectified my ways.

i love how the only time you looked at someone else, you said you were "on to something juicier" than me, and then dropped it right afterwards.

why does no one else find Jebus suspicious?
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Post Post #611 (isolation #70) » Sun May 03, 2009 12:01 pm

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Zilla wrote:Enlighten us, why do you find Jebus scummy?
Alabaska J wrote:
Jebus wrote:
Vote: Alabaska


For the sake of having my vote somewhere at the moment. Also, note my sig - am busy till this weekend.
it is too early in the day for this.
Vote: Jebus
Alabaska J wrote:
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Zilla wrote:.... your sig says "till April 8" and it is now April 9th (almost 10th)
That was the projected time of my stuffs being out of the way, turns out that I'm busy till either tomorrow or as late as wednesday. Will be very active after that, though.
Sigh. hurry up so you can respond.

i know it's wifom but this continuing absence rubs me the wrong way.
Alabaska J wrote:[Did you see Jebus' post? he didn't vote for a reason he voted me because he felt he needed to have his vote somewhere. late in the day i could understand this but this early? it makes no sense.
Alabaska J wrote:jebus' inconsistency from yawetag to zilla bothers me as well, as does his "why not" attitude at the beginning of the game. seems kinda like a cop-out instead of providing an actual answer as to why he supports doing one thing. also unvoting charter at the time he did bothers me a little. especially since his attitude towards charter earlier in the game seemed to have to do with challenging his "i dare you to lynch me" assertion, i find it odd that he was worried enough about charter being hammered as to unvote. while i don't find worrying about a quickhammer to be scummy, when compared with said earlier behavior, I become suspicious that the person in question is just trying look town.
Alabaska J wrote:
Jebus wrote:I'm willing to hammer Alabaska, if we're ready for it.

Also, awaiting what DGB might have to say.
and people say this guy is scummier than me?

sheesh.
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Post Post #617 (isolation #71) » Mon May 04, 2009 4:48 pm

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Jebus wrote:Just checking in, and minimal on time so I can't read the last few pages I missed, but noticing comment on my inconsistency between Zilla and Yawetog.

Yawetog was moderately scummy for a D1, imo. Then Zilla replaced in. Since replacing in, Zilla has only been pro-town. How the hell can I hold the D1 actions of a player I'm not familiar with against a player who's been like the most pro-town player of the game (despite not being familiar with that player as well)? It might possibly be something to examine later, but in all honesty I think it's almost certain Zilla is town.
because you can NEVER ignore the actions of the person someone replaces! if you think someone is honestly scum, and then someone replaces them and they are a better player, then OF COURSE they will look more town. you have to question them until you can get enough info for adequate analysis.

you on the other hand, just dropped it without bothering.

also, zilla, get off your fucking high horse. stop acting as though you are trying to teach me how to play or some shit and actually read the damn game. stop tunneling if you are town and look at the whole game and not just me for once.
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Post Post #628 (isolation #72) » Wed May 06, 2009 4:45 pm

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First warning issued to Alabaska J. Could you try to keep it civil please?
sorry was under a lot of stress with college and ap tests.

my apologies to anyone who was offended
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Post Post #629 (isolation #73) » Thu May 07, 2009 11:31 am

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Post Post #635 (isolation #74) » Fri May 08, 2009 8:03 am

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i'm fine with it so you guys don't get another no lynch seeing as right now i think i'm the only one who stands a chance of getting lynched

roleblockers aren't that big a deal anyway.

unvote, vote: Alabaska J


btw: nightfall is scum, Jebus is scum, ac1983fan is sorta scummy, and people DON'T blindly follow DGB or zilla. Zilla i'm not sure on. she could very likely be misguided town.
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