Mini 760 - Bleach Mafia: Karakura Town - Game Over!

[ZEEnon]

Vote: Gorrad

,
for taking so damn long to confirm.

[ZEEnon]

Vote LynchHimNotMe

for the most reckless quick-hammering I've ever seen, even if it won us the game.

His hammering is definitely something to watch out for.

[ZEEnon]

Sorry, I'm really behind in the game, I will try to catch up.

Thoughts: Both of Giuseppe's initial votes were both based on previous games.

(+1 SP)

Since when do random votes need "justification"?

Random votes are usually given with a random explanation.
I think that is what he is referring to.

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Assuming item X is my move to reveal meta of LHNM.

Although one of the quick hammers he preformed was once on me,
I do not think that this should be held against him in future games, including this one.

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Vote Zeenon

for doubting LOLCAT logic.

I didn't state that I doubted it. I said to watch out for it.

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Can we carry a separated thread of conversation on Bleach?

I'm not quite sure which Bleach character is my favourite.
I do like Ichimaru Gin, but i think I like Rangiku Matsumoto.
Yachiru is pretty cute though, I must admit.

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I think I know why you're voting for Green Crayons, Glados. And IF its for the same reason(s) as to why I'm suspicious of him then you're pretty quick to notice. The fact that you dont want to reveal your reasons yet further makes me think we're on the same line of thinking here.

I'm not sure how to explain this, but this post seems so wrong on so many levels.
Does this post not seem like you are 'buddying up' or agreeing with something you both somehow collectively know?
I acknowledge that later in the game you explain yourself, but I find this post really suspicious.

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Why should others "think up" reasons to vote for Green Crayons? Your posts sound disingenuous.

This post makes a lot of sense actually.
PhilyEC, why would you not state your reasons for voting instead of getting other people to try and determine them?
If someone else comes along with an excellent agrument, it allows you to just state "Oh, I thought that too!"

(+1 SP)

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I really understand the argument made by GLaDOS in post 139. It makes sense, and I can follow it. For Zwetschenwasser,

(+1 SP).

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Unvote, vote PhilyEC

Blatant OMGUS.

[ZEEnon]

I will review the game and leave my input later on today .

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[ZEEnon]

I'd like to point one thing out so far, since I haven't been posting much views about the game.
Right now the two people standing out as the most scummy to me are:

• 1. Albert B. Rampage
  2. zwetschanwasser

I believe the second Albert came under scrutiny he curled up into a defensive little ball and began firing out craplogic claims to seem more like a poor player rather than have to answer questions. Perhaps hes not good at defending himself or perhaps he doesnt want to allow too much attention to come his way this early.

This is true. He isn't defending himself very well, but is doing a good job at directing attention to other players.

Note: More to be posted tomorrow, time for sleep!

[ZEEnon]

AWESOME! 'doctor' save! (most likely, no idea why mafia would NK)
well the doctor now knows a (potential) clear, which is good.
also, it is

HIGHLY

likely, (assuming we have three mafia)
that two mafia were on zwetschenwasser's bandwagon.
my reasoning for this? because i doubt that the mafia could have known the serial killer,
so they probably thought a regular town-aligned player was getting lynched.
i also apologize for not removing my random vote off of Gorrad last day, people hammered far too quickly.
i re-read the thread to get a better grasp on the game,
&& i still suspect Albert B. Rampage of being a mafia member. i can also see Seraphim being scum as well.
right now i don't

think

Green Crayons is scum.
this is because last game i was in with him and he WAS scum, he lurked a lot for the first day.
just a thought, nothing confirmed or anything.
if Albert B. Rampage is mafia, i can see a pairing between him and Gorrad for this post:

Read through. Notable thoughts:
GLaDOS is probably town. I'd bet on ABR-town too.
Scumvibes from PhilyEc.

first of all, i don't see how Albert B. Rampage seems pro-town.
if you can point it out, that would be awesome.
also, he preforms a mini chain-saw defense against PhilyEc,
a person that was in a current debate against Albert B. Rampage.

also, as of now, i see Xtoxm as probably town. probable, not definite.
he noticed the bandwagon on zwetschenwasser as well, although zwetschenwasser was anti-town nonetheless:

The Zwet wagon looks like a scum excuse to lynch a townie based on playstyle.

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ZEEnon, how did you go about writing Post 157? Did you read the game and then type it up? Did you type as you were reading? Did you read through first, then type as you read a second time? Did you edit in things as you typed?

i am always caught up with the game, reading through it regularly.
i just don't always find it neccessary to post if i have nothing important to contribute.
the way i post is that i start from the first post,
and i go to the end, finding everything that i was to comment on.

side note: post 117, everyone is voting someone different. i found that interesting and i just wanted to share that.
side note: has anyone read the latest bleach manga? Kurosaki is going.. savage.

in conclusion, i will start this day off with my vote:

Vote: Albert B. Rampage

[ZEEnon]

So

Vote: Zeenon

for the doctor thing... yeah...

Please expand on this because it's making me HIGHLY suspicious of you.

Vote: Zeenon

Cheering the doctor upon daybreak is a dead scum giveaway.

OMGUS votes are definitely a turn on to me. especially the blatantly obvious ones.

So you are saying that I am not allowed to congratulate the doctor on their correct prediction?
So you are saying that it is a BAD thing that nobody was killed?
So you are saying that you would rather see somebody DEAD?
So you are saying that when nobody is killed, that it can't possibly be a doctor save?

I agree with the doctor thing being a major scum tell. I thought it was so well established of a tell that nobody actually did it any more, to be honest.

Same questions as the above.

Look, I don't really give a damn about these stupid questions. We're trying to scumhunt here.

BEGIN

Teacher: "Okay class, what is one thing scumhunting includes?"
Student: "I know, I know! Pick me!"
Teacher: "Okay, answer the question young ZEEnon."
Student: "Asking questions for the mafiosa to reveal their deep, dark secrets! *grin*"
Teacher: "Correct. You get a candy..."

END

To be honest, I was sort of expecting GLaDOS to die. She was very pro-town yesterday (in my eyes).
I think that if she isn't scum, she would be an excellent choice for a night kill.

[ZEEnon]

Any way you slice it, though, I would like to see more than one liners from her.

START

Medical Student: "What do you diagnose this patient with, DR. ZEE?"
DR. ZEE: "I think Green Crayons has come down with a bad case of tunneling.
For some reason his eyes can't see Albert B. Rampage doing the same thing.
This must be treated at once."

END

[ZEEnon]

I agree. Try to fix that by posting more useful content.

[ZEEnon]

Rules for Finding Mafia
1. Congratulate the doctor on successful protection: Is scum or doctor (+20, +10)

You definately pulled the classic "Look, I'm mafia trying to look like a town!" or the less classic "Look, I'm doc trying to not be subtle about me being the doc!" Either way, players don't congratulate the doctor anymore. It puts a big fat target on their head (by the town if they're scum; by scum if they're the doctor). So, congrats, you just exposed yourself for one or the other.

I don't care what YOU or anybody else say players don't do,
I do what I want to do and that is

final

. Understood? Good. Continuing on..
Why are you role fishing? PERHAPS i'm NOT the doctor, but i'm just congratulating the doctor.
Are you saying that is not acceptable town behavior?

Let's just say I would put enough thought into it so that I wouldn't attempt to kill potential doc targets.

This somehow makes it seem like you know that GLaDOS was last night's target.

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Also, since there was a serial killer, it is more likely that there is only two mafia, but i'm not sure.

[ZEEnon]

i can also see Seraphim being scum as well.

Why?

The way you post, to me, seems like you are someone

outside

of the town looking inwards.

So you are saying that I am not allowed to congratulate the doctor on their correct prediction?
So you are saying that it is a BAD thing that nobody was killed?
So you are saying that you would rather see somebody DEAD?
So you are saying that when nobody is killed, that it can't possibly be a doctor save?

1. HOW DO YOU KNOW IT WAS A DOCTOR GRAGH?!
2. No, he's saying it's a scumtell.
3. Yes, you.
4. It can possibly be but your congrats sounds like it's definitely a doctor save.

You say that congratulating the doctor is a definite scum sign?
Well I say that answering other people's questions for them is a scum sign.
Have you ever stopped to think that, oh I don't know.. not everyone thinks the same way you do, perhaps?
Also, for your answer to number two, you are saying that when nobody is killed, it's a scumtell?
Your reply to question three isn't buying you more town-points either, if that's what you are going for.

I fully support this, and for this reason I:

Vote: ZEEnon
FoS: Seraphim

*sigh* Since it seems that in this game we are going to
vote people solely using the wikipedia definition of scum, I am obliged to do this:

FOS: Gorrad

Scum naturally like to hop on a growing bandwagon early on, while at the same time FOSing their partner.
I can see a connection between these two. This is the second pairing i've put Gorrad with,
so don't be surprised if my vote suddenly hops on to him.

Gorrad, why the FOS on Seraphim?
Gorrad, since you blindly agree with the wiki's dichotomy, why are you more certain that ZEE is scum instead of the doctor?

&& YOU. How do you know that i'm either of the above?

Zeenon, Glados, do your positions on Albert still stand? Anyone else you're seeing as scummy? I could very well be missing out on something here.

I can still see Albert B. Rampage as scum, but I checked out his meta, and I don't see varying differences.
Therefore the ones highest on my scumdar, in order, are:

1. Seraphim
2. Gorrad
&& the obligatory suspicion,
3. Albert B. Rampage


Since Seraphim is number one in my suspicion list, it would only be hypocritical of me not to vote for him instead.

Unvote. Vote: Seraphim .

[ZEEnon]

I will post more when it isn't 1:27 a.m.,
but I just want to say they had their reasons when they gave you the title 'Krap Logick' .

[ZEEnon]

If you think I stopped posting for a brief period of time because
I feel

threatened

by the 'arguments' against me, you are sadly mistaken.
I tend to refrain from forum-type sites when i'm on holidays.
Last week was spring break for me, so I avoided anything that had to do with work.
To be honest with you, my life does not revolve around this game.
Also, I

strongly

disagree with anyone who holds the view that commenting upon the night events is scummy.
I think that the whole point of having a night phase is so that we, the town,
can gain more knowledge, or AT LEAST discuss what (could have) happened.
Also, most of the games i've played on this site have consisted of regular roles.
I have not played with any other roles that block night kills, nor have I experienced mafia NKing before on this site.
Therefore I automatically assumed that it was a doctor save, since that is a role I HAVE played with on this site.

ZEEnon, where exactly did you check for Albert B. Rampage’s meta?

On his profile. On everyone's profile you can find a link 'Find all posts by ******.'
You did not have to repeat the question twice, I did not respond since then, so I was going to answer regardless.

PhilyEc, I have a really bad gut feeling about, but I can't find specific examples of why when I go through the posts. I've learned that my gut's usually a pretty good detector, but going through I can't find anything I can quote.

I don't like how Gorrad uses his gut to scumhunt.
In the past i've seen that scum use this as an excuse to push more suspicion on players
when they have nothing else to use against them.

Realize that by you excersizing yoru right to do whatever you want you gant us the honor of doing the same, which is voting you.

When you say 'us', are you referring to you and your mafia buddies, or the town in general?
Korlash, why do you feel the need to reply to posts not directed to you?
You continously answer points I make regarding Green Crayons in post 302.
Unless you feel obligated as his partner to do so, please refrain from doing this.
Again in post 309 Korlash answers a question directed to Gorrad.
Is this how you usually play Korlash, acting as every player's secretary?

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OMGUS vote placed by Seriphim in post 310, with no explanation at all.
Not sure, but the last time I read the wiki you all love to follow blindly, I think that was a scum tell, no?
Just seems like he hopped off a wagon that he thought was going to go far (Albert B. Rampage),
and hopped on my growing wagon.
He was also on the zwetschenwasser wagon, increasing my already firm suspicions.

zwetschanwasser: 7 (GLaDOS, Korlash, Albert B. Rampage, Giuseppe, Gorrad, Seraphim, Xtoxm)

Two of these are DEFINITELY mafia. Possibly three.
Not sure which ones, but I will hunt until I find out.
As of now the two I suspect that most are Seraphim and Gorrad.
I'm almost dead set on Seriphim to be honest.
The only thing holding me back is that highly believeable roleclaim.
I think that his roleclaim could have something to do with why there wasn't a night kill.
Perhaps he was targetted, but he was 'hiding' therefore he was not killed.

Unvote.

So if you are watched, then the watcher will watch the person you are hiding behind instead.
Will they see you in the report? I'm not sure, I think that if I was roleclaiming,
I would try to paraphrase as much information about the role as I could, not leave out parts about how the targetting works.
I agree with Mastin's belief that GLaDOS is probable town.
Which is one reason why she hasn't been a target of any of my questions.
She seems like the type that is hard to read.
I think some further investigation on her would be most helpful, as having her on our side would be ideal.

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I tend to use loaded questions a lot. I find that I get reactions that are far more readable.
Non-Loaded Question: Why did you vote Player A?
Loaded Question: Did you vote Player A to protect Player B, or did you vote Player A to get a reaction from Player C?
I think that my questions get reactions that benefit us in the long run.

[ZEEnon]

"I'm dead set on this guy but I'm unvoting him" right... that's playing both sides of the field there buddy... what can't pick between bussing him and defending him right now?

The only thing holding me back is that highly believeable roleclaim.

[ZEEnon]

I'm referring to the fact that the role matches the character
AND could be the reason that there was no night kill.
If his claim is true, it makes sense with what happened last night.
The character is very likely in the game, so I consider it HIGHLY possible.

[ZEEnon]

To Seriphim:

So if you are watched, then the watcher will watch the person you are hiding behind instead.
Will they see you in the report?

[ZEEnon]

I'm a little busy this weekend, but I will try to submit my thoughts before the deadline is reached.
As of yet i'm not so sure on voting Seriphim anymore.

[ZEEnon]

Busy right now. Please don't lynch Xtoxm until I post. I have reasons to believe his claim~

[ZEEnon]

Albert B. Rampage, please wait. I'll explain as much as I can.

[ZEEnon]

First off, i'd like to have a moment of silence for PhilyEc ...

Warning! This post has a lot of role speculation. Reader discretion is advised.

OK, continuing on. During the night I did some investigating.. and I came across this site:
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_Hollows
I have a

huge

feeling that the scum roles are coming from this site,
as it is the first site to appear when you type bleach wiki or hollow list into a search engine.
Both Shrieker (serial killer) and Numb Chandelier (mafia redirector) have come from there,
and it would not surprise me if the last two mafia are Jibakurai and Bulbour G.
Those hollow seem to be around relatively the same episodes as Numb Chandelier.

Jibakurai first appeared as a Demi-Hollow that was chained at the hospital. Don Kanonji accidentally transformed him by removing his Chain of Fate. His Hollow form resembles a frog. Ichigo Kurosaki managed to kill the Hollow and clean up Don Kanonji's mistake.

This description mentions something brought up quite recently, Don Kanonji.
Which leads me to believe Xtoxm's claim.
However I did believe Seriphim's claim as well, so I might just be entirely mistaken.
To be honest, I did not suspect at ALL that Don Kanonji would be a character in this game until Xtoxm claimed.
Now that he mentions it, the relation between his claim and my investigation is undeniable.

In my opinion, Don Kanoji (Xtoxm) is one of three things:
1. Town sided
2. Fool (on this site called Jester)
3. Safe claim given to mafia

I'm not sure which, but I think that option two is the least likely.
At least I hope that is the case, I don't want to deal with a 'Jester.'
In the chance he is town sided, (yes now I am leaning on him being scum) I would like to know what his role can do.
I would think that he would be an ordinary villager. (forgot villager = townie on mafiascum, sorry!)

SCRATCH THAT

. Xtoxm is confirmed town to me.
I understand, it sounds like a stretch, but please get off him.
I was doing some more research and I realized something.
I can't say what yet, but i'm certain i'm on to something BIG.
Please, I have found something really important to the town,
but I can't explain without claiming, or giving the mafia too much ideas on what to claim.
But please trust me on this, i'm extremely sure that Xtoxm is town.
I can't believe I didn't realize this before..

*sigh*, more pondering. I realized that Xtoxm isn't confirmed.. that was an exaggeration.
I apologize. But i'm leaning quite heavily on him being town.
The only reason I have doubt is due to the fact that Seriphim claimed Kon and was actually in fact mafia.
But this time i'm really sure that Xtoxm is real.
If everyone wishes for me to, I will explain my reasoning for thinking why Xtoxm is clear.
Unfortunately, it may probably involves me claiming.
I don't see my claim affecting the town too detrimentally,
but it is possible that it can be unsafe to do so.

Bulbous G, as his name hints, is an oversized, melee-style Hollow whose mask resembles a guardian lion. Bulbous G is defeated by Sado after he awakens his latent powers while trying to protect Karin Kurosaki.

*omitted before posting* which leaves me to conclude that this scum is in the game as well.
Not only that, but it is extremely likely that *omitted before posting* is in this game.
I'm pretty sure that *omitted before posting* would be some sort of *omitted before posting* in this game.
*omitted before posting* (villager = townie; I mixed up again!)
With those two roles, it is highly likely that Bulbous G is in the game as well.
I'm pretty sure that this hollow is in the game.

I read through PhilyEc's posts, especially the posts around the transition from day one to day two.
PhilyEc was obviously suspicious of Albert B. Rampage, and definitely investigated him as such.
He must have come up as town due to the fact that PhilyEc did not follow up on his argument on ABR at all.
In my eyes, Albert B. Rampage is not a hollow.
If there is scum that appears as town in this game, I am pretty sure that it would be Grand Fisher.

With all my role speculation, as well as roles I think are in the game due to my role but I don't want to reveal..
I have about nine roles figured out.
I can safely conclude that Vizards and Bounto are not in the game.

**Note: Before I posted, I omitted some sections so that I don't give
the mafia (hollows) too much ideas on what to fake claim. (If the moderator hasn't done so already)

End of role speculation.

zwetschanwasser: 7 (GLaDOS, Korlash, Albert B. Rampage, Giuseppe, Gorrad, Seraphim, Xtoxm)

Once again, I refer to these votes.
In my opinion, GLaDOS is neutral. She hasn't done anything particularily scummy, which scares me.
I don't have a read on her, which makes it difficult to determine her alignment.
Korlash is the only other person that was helping Seriphim push for my lynch.
I think that he is just an idiot though, because after reading his posts in isolation, I don't see anything too scummy.
Albert B. Rampage; town. Not much else to say.
Guiseppe (replaced by Mastin); hmm.. not sure.
Gorrad; probable scum.
Seriphim; scum. that is all.
I

think

Xtoxm is town due to my theory, but otherwise, I would think Xtoxm is scum by the way he is acting.

Seraphim: 6 (Green Crayons, PhilyEc, Gorrad, Albert B. Rampage, Jebus, GLaDOS)

New votes to refer to, woo!
Green Crayons could have planning a massive bus since day one, but I doubt it.
PhilyEc; confirmed town, obviously.
Gorrad; probable scum.
*skips ABR*
Jebus could have bussed on Seriphim, seeing his lynch inevitable.
I say the same about GLaDOS.

About the people that DIDN'T vote for him.
Korlash, I don't know. Either idiot town or scum.
Xtoxm... I just realized he is the scummiest player. WHY DID HE HAVE TO HAVE THAT ROLE?!
Mastin; I feel that he is town, but unsure of his vote on Green Crayons. (possible scum)
ZEEnon - definite town, obviously. what more can I say about this player?
Alright alright, well i'll explain. I wasn't voting Seriphim because unfortunately
I don't have ANY experience with fake claims on this website.
I was fooled, yes. I will try not to make that mistake again.

Anyways, as you can tell from what I posted, I think Gorrad is scum.
Notice how PhilyEc is the only person besides me to bring attention to Gorrad?

So, until I find someplace better for it, I'm going with my gut.

Vote: PhilyEc

My gut's usually a LOT more reliable than my logic- hate to say it, but it's true.

I guess both fail you, or you are scum.

Not just this, but you voting me for bullshit reasons doesn't help your case either.
Gorrad's 'case' on me, if you can call it a case, that is:

1. Commented on doctor save
2. Insulted Korlash

Apparently the two things aforementioned are extremely scummy in your point of view..

I spy with my little eye someone bussing! Hint: The name starts with an 'S', and ends with an 'eraphim'. Still, I'm much more confident in ZEE-scum, so I'm willing to take advantage of the bus. Either way.

I hope i'm not the only one to find something terribly wrong with this post.
It's as if he knew that Seriphim was a hollow.. (hollow = scum)

Not like I'm hopping on a bandwagon here.

Unvote, Vote: Zwet

. Deadline aproacheth, and there are much worse people to vote.

Did I mention that Gorrad is scum?

Vote: Gorrad

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[ZEEnon]

Gorrad makes an excellent point about there being no Jester in post 541.

Jib appeared in Episode two, so I suppose it does fit, but the events of this game were around Episode Eleven--which is why the Fisher and Menos Grande were given as most probables by Korlash.

Nope, you are incorrect.
Jibakurai
Debut (Anime): Episode 10
He fits the exact timeline this theme game is made around.

Acidwire (Sora Inoue)
Debut (Anime): Episode 2
Seems like the traitor you speak of is not likely to be in this.

Why the hell would I NK someone scummy as scum?

Actually PhilyEc did not catch my eye even once to be scum for some reason.

You're overlooking the fact that you are overlooking the methos grande, the most likely of all the hollows to be in this game.

There very well could be Menos Grande, but likely aren't.
I've done my research, and speculated for a while.
With Xtoxm's claim my theory is only strengthened.
Not only that, but the roles that are flipping definitely aren't matching with the beginning flavour given either.

Believing Xtoxm's claim based off a guess of who the mafia could be is dumb...

Oh, but I never said anything about believing his claim due to the scum we might be up against.

[ZEEnon]

Yeah, try reading the rest of that paragraph. I didn't find him particularly so either, just a gut. I was simply stating that your sentence in 532, "Notice how PhilyEc is the only person besides me to bring attention to Gorrad?", is completely irrelevant. It's wrong, and even if it was right it would make no sense as a scumtell.

I've gotten night killed for almost knowing both the mafia in my first game.
Ask Green Crayons, he's the one that killed me.

[ZEEnon]

The main hollow of the contest was a MG... what do you mean it likely isn't in here? that's complete Bullshit. It's the most obvious choice for any GF or high ranking scum role. It's the main enemy Ichigo and uryu have to take down during their contest. it's the main freaking bad guy of season 1... How can you say you've speculated for a while and done reasearch and have come to the conclusion it's not likely in the set-up?

I'm not sure Korlash.
All I can say is that my role doesn't dance around the main plot
this theme game seems to be focused around either, and seems related to his role in a way.

how do you "almost know" both the mafia?

Bad wording. I almost..

outed

the mafia.
I died during the night without properly adressing my suspicions.
I did post my concerns about Charrat being mafia, and my suspicions of Green Crayons.
I got night killed before I could explain, however.

[ZEEnon]

That's nice. How is it at all relevant to the current situation?

You asked me why you would kill PhilyEc. I answered.

[ZEEnon]

Spirit Enabler

Expand please.

[ZEEnon]

Now that is interesting.
It certainly could match up with my role.
It matches the character of Don Kanonji to say the least.
But your power is

extremely

dangerous.

Jibakurai first appeared as a Demi-Hollow that was chained at the hospital. Don Kanonji accidentally transformed him by removing his Chain of Fate.

It is highly possible that you have

awaken

Jibakurai.
I'm pretty sure I understand what your role means,
but as to the fact that we have two of them, i'm unsure.

[ZEEnon]

Bulbous G is defeated by Sado after he awakens his latent powers...

Chandelier is defeated by Orihime Inoue after she awakens her latent powers...

It seems peopleneed their powers awakened.

[ZEEnon]

Well, obviously the scum will have latent abilities too. It would only if I targeted, or ended up targeting, a scum.

Ahh, I see ...
So is it possible that scum were not able to kill night one,
but had their powers awakened during night one?

[ZEEnon]

I see. Thank you for clarifying.

[ZEEnon]

Not only does his character match my role, but now his ability does as well.
After thinking, I think it's entirely possible that there is two Spirit Enablers.
There are probably a lot of players with unawaken powers. Therefore a need for more than one.

[ZEEnon]

Alright. Yuichi Shibata doesn't interfere with my theory,
only bumps another major character out of the game.
I'm pretty sure *omitted before posting* is not in the game now.

Korlash's role backs up GLaDOS' role which is further supported by Shrieker.

My role

definitely

has a latent power. At least, i'm pretty sure.
I had to ask for clarification on my role from the moderator during confirmation to fully understand it.
Once everyone else claims, if they choose to, I will claim and give my theory out.
I don't want the scum to have any idea of what to claim.
To be honest, I think the beginning flavour is a way to mislead us from the real characters in the game,
and to give the scum a good idea of what to fake claim.

[ZEEnon]

Yūichi Shibata, (柴田　優一, Shibata Yūichi) a human boy whose mother was killed by the Hollow Shrieker when the latter was a living

serial killer

.

I would have determined that there was a serial killer in the game from this.

[ZEEnon]

It's just a theory Gorrad, nothing that immediately 'clears' him.
Also, I assume I will claim when I get back home in about two hours.

[ZEEnon]

Let's see other things... Oh right I'm freaking glad that stupid hallow is finally dead! Yay me! <3 Chadokun!

This post definitely matches his role claim.
Also, I think Mastin might have thought you were Orihime Inoue.

[ZEEnon]

[ZEEnon]

Green Crayons has turned into town. Amazing!

[ZEEnon]

Gorrad or Korlash is scum. Or a combination of the two.
I strongly suggest we lynch Gorrad.

[ZEEnon]

You role is believeable. However, your actions reek of scum. Or maybe that's your cologne..

[ZEEnon]

Korlash totally ruins my theory in his post 616.

[ZEEnon]

So I haven't been researching, or I haven't been researching

independantly

?

[ZEEnon]

So you're saying that we are supposed to lynch one of the two people that can enable our powers?
(Assuming both aren't scum)
Also, i've changed my mind. If one of Korlash/ Gorrad comes out scum, I doubt the other is.
Mafia wouldn't batantly show off their partner to all.
One of them might be mafia trying to 'buddy up' with a town-aligned player.

[ZEEnon]

Role Claim Coming Soon

Too tired today .

[ZEEnon]

It may be hard to for you understand, but in Canada they have these education facitilies called

Schools

.
People called

Students

attend these facilities to learn.
At these educational facilities, you can learn about various things. One such thing is

Time Zones

.
Around the world, times differ depending on where you are located.
That means that the times people sleep vary as well.

I just got home, i'm making my role claim look all nice and presentable before you get to see it.

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School - an institution where instruction is given
Student - a person formally engaged in learning
Time Zone - one of the 24 time regions or divisions of the globe

[ZEEnon]

Yes, i'm stalling when i'm the one role claiming with no pressure from anyone else.

[ZEEnon]

Are you a hollow?

[ZEEnon]

Dang, you signed out.
I thought I could interrogate Jebus since this is the first time he has been active like.. ever.
Back to the post-by-post-analysis.~

[ZEEnon]

I love it when people pretend there is a question to be answered.
The only question you have asked this game:

Care to answer my question?

Anyways, do you normally lurk in games, or are you doing so in just this game?

[ZEEnon]

Almost done writing my post.
You've been a good distraction while I was writing it.

[ZEEnon]

Post By Post Analysis:

(The following are posts that I felt the need to post on)

ZEEnon, would you mind giving a compiled synopsis on why you suspect Korlash?

Not sure how to explain it, but when I read through his posts in isolation, he caught my eye.
I actually agree with his views early on. On day two however, he takes an opposite change.

So Vote: Zeenon for the doctor thing... yeah...

This is the only reason given on last day for voting me.
Never more does he mention a thing about me.
Although his vote sits in a comfortable spot and

does not change

,
even when he voices that Seriphim's role claim was not believeable like I had stated.
Korlash is not my main concern however.

In post 654, Gorrad completely changes my meaning of my first post on day two around.
Also, at the end of day two, Gorrad forgets if he was helping his partner or bussing him.

(epicmafia.com. I know ZEE's a player there as well. We've played a few matches here and there, I believe, a long time ago).

EpicMafia!<3

I will say I targeted Gorrad one of the nights and if he had been able to tell me which night his latent abilities (if any) had been activated I could have thusly helped confirm him if and when i flipped town thus preventing the double mislynch GC seemed to be setting up.

Gorrad, you still haven't answered, athough it's clear to everyone what night you were targetted.
Also, not everyone might have a latent ability.

I'd prefer a Zeenon lynch, but since we're so close to deadline, Seraphim to avoid a no-lynch.

Explain please. You say this but have failed to give reasons or an explanation.

I suggest for everyone to read Jebus' posts in isolation, he is not to be overlooked.

So you are subtley trying to coach Zee on his claim?

Are you subtley trying to pair me with Green Crayons?

At this time, my suspicion list, as I created on Day One, goes as follows:

- - - 1. Gorrad
- - - 2. Xtoxm
- - - 3. Korlash

End of Post By Post Analysis

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Role Claim:

(My first time doing it, isn't this special?)

I am

Yuzu Kurosaki

.

Contrary to popular belief, I am not a doctor.
I am a Nurse.
I have a 50% chance of saving my target, and 50% that my save will fail.
I targetted GLaDOS both nights.

(OhGodMyLife: Sorry if I included too much, this is my first role claim!)

End of Role Claim

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Theory:

(The following is speculation made by myself)

My theory is based on:
http://bleach.wikia.com/wiki/Karakura_Superheroes
Yes, the Karakura Superheroes.

The Karakura Superheroes is a team created by Don Kanonji, who attempts to boost ratings for his declining TV show. Kanonji formed the team from Ichigo's sisters Karin Kurosaki and Yuzu Kurosaki, the children Ururu Tsumugiya and Jinta Hanakari from the Urahara Shop, and Kon as a mascot to slay Hollows and protect Karakura Town, particularly while Shinigami such as Rukia Kuchiki and substitute Ichigo Kurosaki are stuck in Soul Society (while likewise ignoring true substitute Shinigami Zennosuke Kurumadani, who was assigned to the area in their absence.) The Karakura Superheroes take the form of a Super Sentai team, in which the "red" member traditionally acts as team leader.

This idea came when Xtoxm first claimed.
PhilyEc, Ururu Tsumugiya, is one member of this group, as am I, Yuzu Kurosaki.
I would

definitely

not be surprised if Karin Kurosaki was in the game.
I even think I know what the role she would be.
With my theory, I think these five characters are in the game:

Don Kanonji - Karakura Golden

Karin Kurosaki - Karakura Red

Yuzu Kurosaki - Karakura Yellow

Ururu Tsumugiya - Karakura Pink

Jinta Hanakari - Karakura Red
Kon - Karakura King

Two have been proven to be in the game. (Ururu Ysumugiya and Yuzu Kurosaki, myself)
Kon however, was given to the scum as a fake claim.
Therefore, I am wary of Xtoxm's claim.

When I wrote Death Note Mafia (And I'm going to be bringing this game up a lot due to similarities) I put only one member of the Kira Insvestigation Team (Matsuda) as a role and put the others as fakeclaims, despite their fitting the flavor well, with Matsuda there to make them seem more likely.

This might be what the moderator is doing to me.

End of Theory

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[ZEEnon]

Also, I saw the Karakura Superheroes come up there somewhere, I kinda doubt they're involved in this at all. That bit came up as a filler somewhere in the anime-only arc, if I remember, which came well after the soul-society arc. So very unrelated, I think.

Assuming my theory is incorrect, there is no other reason that Don Kanonki could be in this game.
Therefore, if everyone thinks my theory is incorrect, Xtoxm should be lynched.

[ZEEnon]

...hoping that Seraphim was town...

The rest of your post was ignored due to your stupidity.

[ZEEnon]

Gorrad isn't lynched yet?

[ZEEnon]

I am still in favor of a mass-claim.

I am also wishing for mass-claim.

1.) What did you have to ask the mod about to clarify your role?
2.) Why did you protect me Nights One and Two?
3.) Are you given any indication of what way your 50% goes each night? Any notification for successful protects?
4.) Please explain how the presence of Yuzu makes Kanonji a less likely character with your theory. It seemed like just a while ago your theory

supported

Kanonji being int he game, so I am confused.

My role PM did not come out and say what my role was.
It told me what I did, but I was not informed of the role name.
I protected you because you seemed fairly pro-town,
&& I want to have your logical posts to help with my thinking later on in the game.
I have no idea if my save goes through, or if you are attacked.
I didn't say that my role makes Don Kanonji less likely.
In fact, my role helps him be in the game.

The two things hindering my belief of his claim:

1. Seriphim's fake claim.
2. Karakura Heroes came later on in the series.

Addressing your second point, I uploaded the photos today.
I thought that uploading the exact same picture would be bordering the boundries of stating my exact PM,
therefore I used another, better picture. (as well as others I wanted to use for future posts, damn you.)

[ZEEnon]

It's okay.
Are you informed of when your passive ability is used?

[ZEEnon]

Going to sleep as well.

[ZEEnon]

I had to clarify with the moderator. I am allowed to post the original picture.
I have no idea how to re-write the flavor so that it isn't quoted word for word.
Basically i'm the daughter residing in the Kurosaki Clinic. I often fill in as the nurse.

[ZEEnon]

Question 1: On mafiascum, does a person know if they are jailed?
Question 2: Is the targetted player allowed to preform their night action?
(Questions are directly at anyone willing to answer)

[ZEEnon]

Zee, anything in your PM suggest you may have a latent ability?

As I mentioned before, yupp.

[ZEEnon]

I didn't understand it because I didn't know that there was a role with only a 50% chance of saving.
I also have never heard of the Nurse role.

---

Also, I don't believe Gorrad. PhilyEc obviously got a result.
If Gorrad roleblocks at the same time, he would not have gotten one.
Now can we lynch him?

[ZEEnon]

After looking through GLaDOS' meta,
I accidently stumbled upon

her

identity, I think.
I think I have had previous interactions with GLaDOS as well.
Nothing important, just thought i'd share.

[ZEEnon]

My Theory

(Killed)

[ZEEnon]

Gorrad, agreed. GLaDOS, unsure.
I've thought about this as well, but I didn't want to say anything until everyone claimed.

[ZEEnon]

By the way, I think Mastin and Jebus are town right now.

[ZEEnon]

Karin-chan! ♥

Err- Can one of the spirit enablers please be on me, and the other on Albert B. Rampage.
I'm pretty sure I know his latent ability (if any), and I would like to see mine as well.
Albert B. Rampage was already town in my eyes, but his claim made him super town!

[ZEEnon]

I really suggest lynching Gorrad first.
GLaDOS' role at least has another role to back her up, but Gorrad's role comes out of no where.
Hell, Rukia didn't even display those abilities at that point.

[ZEEnon]

Hmm.. well that is true Albert B. Rampage. Despite that, I will not change from Gorrad.
I am determined in his lynch, although I am not against a GLaDOS' lynch.

[ZEEnon]

I know i'm going to regret this, but fine.
I promise you that even if she is proven innocent, I will vote her down tomorrow.

[ZEEnon]

Please explain Albert B. Rampage.
Also, seeing as the end of the day draws near:

- Xtoxm, please target Albert B. Rampage tonight.
- Korlash, please target me tonight.

Reasons for the targets:

I think Albert B. Rampage has a latent ability.
(If you disagree ABR, please say so)
Also, I trust Xtoxm's claim more.
I'd rather have ABR'S ability unlocked rather than my own.

[ZEEnon]

Hmm . . . *always gets swayed by appeals to emotion*

[ZEEnon]

Scratch that

, nevermind.
He is voting GLaDOS, yet tells the town to lynch me tomorrow.

Do we have a hammer?

[ZEEnon]

Hammer! I wanna see what he turns up!

[ZEEnon]

I swear, he better come up scum.

[ZEEnon]

Mastin, where art thou?

[ZEEnon]

Vote: GLaDOS

[ZEEnon]

Xtoxm: Did you target Albert B. Rampage during the night?
Korlash: Did you target me during the night?
_____________________________________________________________

I don't like how GLaDOS tried to prevent (or slow down) a Gorrad lynch yesterday.

[ZEEnon]

If there is scum that appears as town in this game, I am pretty sure that it would be Grand Fisher.

Oh man, i'm awesome.

[ZEEnon]

Korlash: Don't you feel stupid, backing up scum for the second time in a row?

[ZEEnon]

Hell yeah i'm town, I got attacked twice during the day by both scum flips.

[ZEEnon]

No fair! Players are not supposed seem this pro-town!

Unvote .

[ZEEnon]

I love the scum for not killing me.♥

[ZEEnon]

Apparently my attachment to you was unsucessful there Zee...

That's weird Korlash.
Perhaps you were role blocked?

This is the order in how I view the current living players from town-scum:
_______________________________

- Albert B. Rampage
- Xtoxm
- Green Crayons
- Jebus
- Korlash
- GLaDOS
_______________________________

Xtoxm, ZEEnon, GLaDOS...they're all scummy.

This seems like a pathetic bus.
GLaDOS has not been particularily scummy, but Gorrad mentioning her is extremely questionable.

[ZEEnon]

Green Crayons, why is your

passive ability

a miller?
That doesn't seem like a passive ability at all.
It seems like a role.

Vote: Green Crayons

[ZEEnon]

I think that GLaDOS' role does help balance out the three scum/ serial killer set up.
I don't like how Green Crayons claims that his passive ability is a miller.
I'm thinking his PM would outright tell him he is a miller.
But I think that a miller role is likely to be in this set up.
Therefore,

Unvote .

Also, I might have a latent ability, but that is not confirmed.
There is also the chance that if a player is masoned, they can not use their latent ability any longer.
&& yupp, I confirm that I am masons with Albert B. Rampage.
I'm 100% sure that Albert B. Rampage & Xtoxm are town. Those two players I am confident in.

[ZEEnon]

Who really cares what happened night one?
There are about a million different things that could have happened.
For example, perhaps Gorrad wanted to frame a player later on in the game with his jailing.
Perhaps, GLaDOS may have coordinated the mafia to NK in order to make her claim more likely.
Furthermore, a lynch on Albert B. Rampage seemed very likely the next day.
Notice how she auto-votes him day two?

[ZEEnon]

I knew it. I signed up in a game of yours without knowing.
Also, some of your Epicmafia accounts include Doomsday, GLaDOS, and TheArisal, correct?

[ZEEnon]

GLaDOS is not a good lynch. I want our perfect scum lynching record to remain. In my opinion, she is town.
I think Jebus' claim also matches up. To be honest, I think that either Green Crayons or Korlash should go.
I feel more stronger on the former, due to his

passive ability

claim, although he has helped lynch both scum thus far.
Which leaves me to conclude:

Vote: Korlash .

[ZEEnon]

Weird, is your username GLaDOS taken from somewhere?

[ZEEnon]

- Moderator: It's been a while since a vote count. -

[ZEEnon]

Not being a major part of the plot = minor character

[ZEEnon]

Ah, you took that really literally. Let's just say it's a figure of speech, such as:
"

My character is not a big part of the storyline.

"
The only reason why I am explaining this for him is because I also used the same phrase earlier on.

[ZEEnon]

Who do you think is more suspicious, Korlash or Green Crayons?
I really think Korlash is the way to go.

[ZEEnon]

I think that having more vanilla would make the game more balanced, no?
I mean, we have quite a few power roles including latent abilities.
Due to that, I think Jebus is town.

[ZEEnon]

Unvote.

I'm trying to draw reactions with my vote, but so far they all have seemed legit.
I'm not sure who is the lynch for the day.

[ZEEnon]

Shall I hammer?

[ZEEnon]

I also narrowed down the scum to either Green Crayons or Korlash,
and I find Korlash to be the worst of the two.

[ZEEnon]

Vote: Korlash .

I've longed to see you lynched Korlash!

[ZEEnon]

Shit, Jebus has already been lynched.
I really believed him as town too ... Oh well, no perfect record.

[ZEEnon]

Great job guys! I liked everyone that played in the game.
GLaDOS, what made you choose Green Crayons?
&& yupp, I faked being a Nurse.
Since all of you were assuming I was due to

accidental

clues I left behind,
I didn't want to waste a perfect fake claim opportunity.
Plus I wanted mafia to waste a night kill on me, sadly it didn't work.
Take that mafiascum wiki! Not just mafia or doctors do what you say!

[ZEEnon]

Me too!

[ZEEnon]

I'm going to be honest, I don't normally read wall of texts.

[ZEEnon]

The game would probably have gone far different if zwetschenwasser actually used his fake claim.