The Dark Goma Mafia: Massacre of the Cloth (Game Over)

[SocioPath]

I can't believe DGB has gone as long as she has without a vote on her yet.

Vote: DrippingGoofball

Because someone has to.

[SocioPath]

ok. this is a terrible RVS. We need people to defend themselves; think; prosper. If literally EVERYONE randomly votes, then nothing will begin.

Unvote
Vote: Jordan

For the random reason stated above.

[SocioPath]

And BM please stop spamming.

Spamming?
Half of your posts in this game so far have been about spamming!
Now what?

[SocioPath]

Spam

Bm, stop pulling a BM.

[SocioPath]

And in those other mafias, have you experienced random voting? What do you think about it?

yes. Usually its productive (i.e. theres a random vote, players talk about that player, new random vote, and suddenly mafia slips and a hole is found).

ok. this is a terrible RVS. We need people to defend themselves; think; prosper. If literally EVERYONE randomly votes, then nothing will begin.

Does not compute.

[SocioPath]

today was not a good RVS

But for this to work well:

(i.e. theres a random vote, players talk about that player, new random vote, and suddenly mafia slips and a hole is found)

Things like this has to happen first:

If literally EVERYONE randomly votes, then nothing will begin.

Everyone has their own personality quirks, and posting styles, and general way of carrying themselves. Things like that are great to look for. Because from there you can better determine how people react based off of who are are as a person, compared to how they act based off of who they are as a role in a game.

RVS is a perfect way to help get reads on how people are as people.

Just like if things get serious too soon then look for those types of people sneaking out the back door.


The only BAD RVS is the one that people ignore, and thats a case by case basis as well.

[SocioPath]

did i somehow end up in a newbie mafia? Just saying ive seen better RVSes, and now that we;re in this stage, I am quite satisfied w/ it.

Is that an IC remark or a newb remark?

[SocioPath]

I'm happy with my vote placement for now.

[SocioPath]

I'd be willing to lynch Bm at this point though.

[SocioPath]

I'd be willing to lynch Bm at this point though.

Hahah, you like lynching town?

You mean Anti-Town.


Also SpyreX's point about votes is valid, and would make sense to follow.

[SocioPath]

I'd be willing to lynch Bm at this point though.

Hahah, you like lynching town?

You mean Anti-Town.

Than why did you say ur willing to lynch me?

Because I currently view you as an anti-town player, which doesn't factor in alignment.

[SocioPath]

@Sociopath- why are you voting a player without relevance to their alignment?

Heh. You are at least consistent with your inanity. Based on that, I refuse to answer your question.

[SocioPath]

Consider it a policy lynch, more than an alignment lynch. Thats not to say that his actions aren't actually scummy, because they are.
But regardless of his alignment, his posts, if kept up, will detract from the game, especially with the active lurking style. That said, I'm willing to lynch that type of player.
Also just because I find someone scummy, doesn't mean I need to immidiely vote them, I already said I was happy with my vote placement as it stands.
If I could vote for multiple people, I would, but alas...

Both Sajin's and Bm's reactions to me are delightful.


Good to see my question refusal was met with an actual logical response though. I'll give both of you that much credit. <3

[SocioPath]

What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this?

Double voters, much more often than not, are a Protown role, especially on day1. (Day2+ some roles can give double votes to anyone, including scum.)

Other than that, its a crap shoot as far as I know.

[SocioPath]

What would be protown about outing voting mechanics or attributing them to certain people? What advantage for town do you see in discovering this?

Double voters, much more often than not, are a Protown role, especially on day1. (Day2+ some roles can give double votes to anyone, including scum.)

Other than that, its a crap shoot as far as I know.

Sure. So why would we out at least one someone that has a double vote and therefore is likely town? Thus my post.

Eh, now that is debatable.
Although from an optimistic point of view, we have enough power roles (27) that an essentially confirmed Protown role day1 would get the kind of protection he needs.

[SocioPath]

Haha i forgot..with the odd flavor I modconfirmed I am town. With the council etc etc.

Thats cute cause that information is in the sample PM.

[SocioPath]

oh for god's sake...

Kmd, why the fake daykill?

Scumtrap results positive, that's why. I think this is a Kmd-town gambit.

He hasn't been the only one with faux day kills.

[SocioPath]

w.t.f wouldnt u want to know? Isn't mafia 101 uniformed majority vs informed minority...wouldn't you know off that alone.

Haha i forgot..with the odd flavor I modconfirmed I am town. With the council etc etc.

Thats cute cause that information is in the sample PM.

My role pm was confusing plus i read the flavor after. I as the council sounded like a douche, so I thought I was scum.

The hypocrisy runs deeps.

[SocioPath]

1.) If DeathNote flips an obvious high-power mafia PR (vig, etc) Sajin is getting lynched.

Why does it have to be a high-power mafia PR, as opposed to a mafia PR in general?

That part I'm not getting.

[SocioPath]

Socio is ignoring the deathnote situation

You should know from a lightning quick meta read that I generally try to avoid debates on role PM formatting.

[SocioPath]

Socio is ignoring the deathnote situation

You should know from a lightning quick meta read that I generally try to avoid debates on role PM formatting.

From a theory perspective, why may I ask?

Some mods will modkill when it comes to confirming people based on PM structure.

I personally play mafia for the psychological and psychoanalytical parts of the game, not the 'guess the third word in my PM and break the game' reasons.

[SocioPath]

@Socio - Jordan or Ben lynch? Why?

I still think Jordan is the better lynch of the two, and my vote says as much.

His stances on RVS, how he responded to RVS, and how he has pretty much ONLY POSTED on or about the RVS.
Then surfed along posting a bunch of nothings until hopping on a Stark wagon.

@Socio- I did not ask for any information from another players role PM nor did anyone else. Stark volunteered this information when jumping on DNote's wagon. Stark stated something I found as a contradiction and when I questioned him about it he tried to explain it off using different logic. Evidently others found the same thing questionable.

I don't recall me saying anything at all that has to deal with any of what you just said.

It was noted that I didn't participate. I stated why and responded.

I don't see why you are sitting there trying to explain the semantics all out to me.

[SocioPath]

I wouldn't complain about any of:

SocioPath

In no particular order. All are either
a)scummy
b)lurkers
c)claimed miller and everyone freaked out about "OMG DO WE POLICY LYNCH?!?"

Mmm...why do you find me scummy?
Unless you are considering not posting for an entire 45 hours as lurking.

[SocioPath]

Blowing up a so-called jester would circumvent the win condition, but Rosso claims to know what Rosso is doing. So no sense going that route at this juncture.

[SocioPath]

Rosso isn't jesteresque, he's just abrasive.

And completely useless as of so far.

Saying he was lurking in plain sight would give him too much credit.

[SocioPath]

that too.

Jordan, do you end the day by snuggling people or no?

No. The day continues. Which is why i think will be good to use it nao.

That would make essentially 3 lynches today.

[SocioPath]

Alright,

Unvote
Vote: Snow_Bunny

[SocioPath]

too. much. stuff. will catch up (hopefully)

Vote: Snow_bunny

Unvote
Vote: alvinz95

[SocioPath]

Do you at least now why Socio and alvinz are voting Snow instead of first calling out on my normal play?

Except I am voting alvinz, not Snow.

[SocioPath]

except you voted him for what seemed like the same exact horrible reasons you voted Snow Bunny.

Wat


Same exact reasons?
Please inform me of the apparent reasons you think I voted for Snow, and then the reasons that I voted for alvinz.

[SocioPath]

too. much. stuff. will catch up (hopefully)

Vote: Snow_bunny

Unvote
Vote: alvinz95

^ This is you voting alvinz shortly thereafter, who voted for shitty wagoning reasons.

Actually that is me quoting every single post of alvinz in the thread, and then voting him.

[SocioPath]

Sociopath- What do you think of stark?

Not a lot. The only thing he has really said in my eyes to lean him in either direction is this:

Where does it say what is town anywhere? Is it listed that Council=town? If so, point it out to me please.

It should say it in your PM, scum.

unvote

Vote: DeathNote

Explain this stark. Now. Are you mafia or 3rd party?

unvote; vote: Stark

....

1. The game begins with the death of "The Giver"
2. "The Giver", as stated in the introduction, is aligned with the Council
3. "The Giver"'s name has been written in green.
4. Green is the color asigned to all dead player/NPCs aligned with the town.
5. I am aligned with the council


I don't understand how this was even a question.

The amount of crap in that crap logic is off the charts.

He was asked about where it said that Council equaled town in the PM. And he responded with a string of crap that he concluded that he was town, ignoring the original question entirely.
He went from 'it says it in your PM' to 'actually it says it in game.'

But as crap as something is, that doesn't mean that town can't be illogical.

He hasn't done enough to warrant a vote from me.

[SocioPath]

@ sociopath as well

wtf? So you think a lurker lynch is a better case than someone who has acted outright scummy and refuses to do anything to the contrary? Why don't we just replace alvinz and lynch actual scum today?

Pressure him til he pops or is replaced.

I've gotten behind in this game previously too, but I made an effort to catch up.

The game has slowed down a bunch to a more normal pace at this point, so if he isn't catching up, he isn't trying to.

[SocioPath]

... I didn't realize that we're looking at a dozen posts of actual words in between Alvinz posts here.

That changes it some, but not a lot.

I just looked at alvinz' other posts...and that makes his vote even worse. I'm certainly not moving my vote anytime soon. This is a good wagon to hop on.

Q1) Opinion on Sajin and Bm? You seemed interested in them earlier...

My thoughts on Bm haven't changed much. Same with Sajin. Nothing relevant in my eyes at this point, or I would have commented on such.
Alvinz is a much better wagon.
25 players in this game, I can't give a case on everyone simultaneously.
I don't currently have that kind of time.

[SocioPath]

Apparently nothing can make alvinz post. So my vote is wasted on somone who is obviously going to be replaced.

Unvote

A KMD wagon is an informative wagon.

Vote: Kmd4390

Bm is currently spamming the game talking about how much he doesn't spam the game by talking about other games where he didn't spam the game despite him being in that game and spamming that game.

[SocioPath]

A KMD wagon is an informative wagon.

How so? Anything else to say...been awhile since we've heard from you.

There are several people who've made a large case on him, as well as several people who have said nothing about him negatively and voting him. Being able to pick up on the intentions of each group, given the amount of actual manpower of players required to lynch, is a good thing. People are going to ride him a while, and votes are going to grow stale.

As for anything else, I'm still digesting. Its a lot easier to take note of the situation of the person I was voting for, and the person with the largest wagon, than it is to address everything at the same time.

[SocioPath]

A KMD wagon is an informative wagon.

How so? Anything else to say...been awhile since we've heard from you.

There are several people who've made a large case on him, as well as several people who have said nothing about him negatively and voting him. Being able to pick up on the intentions of each group, given the amount of actual manpower of players required to lynch, is a good thing. People are going to ride him a while, and votes are going to grow stale

So is this an information wagon, on scum wagon, or some combination of both?

Your first question makes no sense to me, but I'll assume you are either asking if its a informative wagon on someone who is scum, or is a wagon that is driven by scum.
I wouldn't rule out either. Not sure the point of your question though or the motivation behind such.

Also for an added bonus, summarize the case on kmd in a couple lines.

No sense in restating others' words as my own with cases already made. So I'll point out a personal gem that my have been overlooked:

I wouldn't complain about any of:

SocioPath

In no particular order. All are either
a)scummy
b)lurkers
c)claimed miller and everyone freaked out about "OMG DO WE POLICY LYNCH?!?"

Mmm...why do you find me scummy?
Unless you are considering not posting for an entire 45 hours as lurking.

In his massive lynch list, he explains such as being 1 of 3 things. He doesn't explain at all who goes to what, just a crapped out list of half the town with unheard of ambiguity. And he purposely kept that ambiguity so he wouldn't have to explain himself, going so far as ignoring questions based as to why he put someone on there such as mine. VP's response to list also noted.

@ SocioPath: Why did you push for ~Jordan' to kill Rosso Carne? Did you honestly believe that he was a jester? Did you honestly think that was the best play?

Rosso is playing like the kind of person that I would N0 vig. He has been less helpful than a nonexistent player, and most of his posts are needlessly abrasive. To the point where people ignore his actions and just notice the abrasions.

I didn't think he was a jester though, someone mentions jesters, and I just stated a way around their win condition. Rosso isn't trying hard enough to be a Jester. He isn't trying hard enough for any role.

[SocioPath]

Lots to analyze. Khan's obsession with Rosso is indeed odd though.

[SocioPath]

Ok, here is the deal.

From a logical standpoint, everything Spy said makes sense, and SC.
Look at the flavor of this game. People get special powers when they are near the Goma.
Those special powers would be an 'active' ability.
SC is a 'toucher'. He touches people, he gets their powers.
SPY DOESN'T HAVE ANY POWERS, nothing to absorb. He has POTIONS. Thats why he is 'SPECIAL'.
You can't touch someone and absorb a physical potion he has access to.

And SB is acting terribly considering her position.

Vote: Snow_Bunny

[SocioPath]

For the purposes of game mechanics, there is a distinction between 'physical' abilities and 'active' abilities. It isn't directly stated, and I can't explain this in detail due to it being role-relevant, but I am of the opinion based on what I have received that a 'physical' can still be an ability that one actively gets to make a choice on; I admit I'm not 100% sure on that. And I am going to send in a request to CKD for clarification after I finish writing this post.

The fact that clergy used the word 'active' specifically leads me to conclude that the distinction is very likely relevant in this context.

And, no, those terms weren't elaborated further for me. However, given that Spyrex's power is the power to select from x number of potions which, in turn, do 'something' (whether it be the conferral of an ability or, as may have been the case, the turning of spyrex into some sort of zombiestumpghost), it seems to me that Spyrex very likely does not possess an 'active' ability.

Come on, you can at least pretend to read my posts.

[SocioPath]

The following people need to post immediately: tubby, Sajin, Plum, Llama, SocioPath, Kscope, Vaya, Kise....preferably with a vote for Benmage.

Heh, I tend not to post until I'm current, and have read every new post. With this game that takes a little longer when its been given time to fester.

Anywho,

Unvote
Vote: Rosso

For the sake of pressure vote to make HIM VOTE to either confirm/deny the double voter speculation. It could just as easily be another mechanic.

Although he is likely getting replaced, so its irrelevant.

[SocioPath]

Oooooo SocioPath is bus'ing Rosso, too.

Oh good, I'm finally caught up again for the dozenth, and the first response is this awesomely useful one.

Man, I've been 'bussing' him from the beginning, cause I didn't like his play, or lack thereof. KK's obsession with him was unsettling as well. NOW I'M OBSESSED TOO! Whats more unsettling is people so quick to pass him off as a town double voter when it could just as easily be any other person in this game with the second vote.

[SocioPath]

SocioPath, why bother voting someone who the mod said would already be replaced?

To show given intentions.

[SocioPath]

if you call that game being over a year old sudden then sure, and why does my opinion change make me scummy

Explain what changed your opinion on millers since that game. Really, your refusal to answer this question bothers me more than the inconsistency.

Wait, wait.
I don't like this line of reasoning at all.
If that game is over a year old, I think its quite obvious as to why it changed.
Tubby has been on the site barely over a year.
Fresh on the site is a little different than being around for a while, sometimes things change.
Very scummy attack.

[SocioPath]

Wait, what kind of passive information could Plum have that would inform her of Tubby's role?

I'm not buying it.

[SocioPath]

^ This is a giant ball of rolefishing. The bad kind.

You mean the awesome kind. You shush up and wait your turn.

[SocioPath]

Unvote
Vote: Plum

Plum train all aboard. woo woo

[SocioPath]

I'm not good at waiting. Especially when the answer seems clear and asking for said answer doesn't seem awesome*.

Note: This means if you have MYSTIC INFORMATION (TM) saying Plum is lying in the greatest of scum maneuvers, then go for it. If not, the above post just says simply "I AM TUBBIES SCUM PARTNER THANKS IN ADVANCE"

I'm done with this day. Its time for blood.

BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

*This is for town-awesome. Scum it would be awesome, but then you would be dead for being scum soo

I'll let Plum tell you.

[SocioPath]

Tell SpyreX what, pray tell?

Tell him how you could possibly know Tubby's rolename. You're not a cop, you're not mason partners. You're scum. That would be how.

[SocioPath]

That about sum it up?

Pretty much.

[SocioPath]

Sigh.

SocioPath,

You've all but beat our heads over some kind of ??? saying that Plum can not have role based information on Tubby.

Oddly enough, spilling it COULD lead to chain lynches of scum.

Yet, you haven't.

Why is this?

Because I reeeeeallly want to hear on how Plum has that kind of information, it is kind of imperative.

[SocioPath]

I know milk. He's either went I AM ROLEBLOCKER or I AM SC'S ROLE as far as I can tell. But, alas, we've got to wait for one of them to budge.

Pretty much.

[SocioPath]

So you roleblocked Plum?

OMG ROLE FISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, yes.

[SocioPath]

But if I had a scumpal as worthless as tubby, I wouldn't try to save him. Why would Plum try to save tubby?

Young and naive and is throwing away her future!

[SocioPath]

So you roleblocked Plum?

OMG ROLE FISHER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I mean, yes.

Oh, now you make some sense. My info comes courtesy of an action taken by someone who was apparently not roleblocked. This info is shared between us. I personally did not attempt an active action last Night.

This is the kind of thing I would have loved to hear prior to claiming RBer, and yet you waited, and gleefully share that information now. I guess you had to change your claim a little bit to shy away from anything conveniently active.

[SocioPath]

@SP - Do you block only one type of action (ie active) or do you block passive and special. Ask that. Come back. We had this problem already

Given the nature, I'd say active and specials such as spy's case, but I'll ask for your sake.

[SocioPath]

@SocioPath
If you don't mind though, could you explain you're reason for RBing Plum? I think she seemed rather town Day 1.

I make people cry, so I figured I'd do what I do best, and make a girl cry.
So I took from that and looked at females, and chose Plum. I mean making younger girls cry is my forte!

But really, gameplaywise I didn't like her stance on KMD.

oh for god's sake...

Kmd, why the fake daykill?

Scumtrap results positive, that's why. I think this is a Kmd-town gambit.

He hasn't been the only one with faux day kills.

[SocioPath]

@SocioPath
Of all the people in the game, is Plum really the one you felt was most likely to be scum? Did you not feel their was no one scummier that you could have targeted instead?

Seriously, is that all you have to ask? Paranoid much?

Also, would you mind fullclaiming, giving us your name and paraphrasing flavor? Since you've already claimed your ability, I don't see any harm.

At least this is asking something different.

The Causer of Weep.
(I make people cry, although unlike in real life, it says I don't enjoy doing such. )

I sell fish. Trying to save money so my preggo wive can pop out the child closer to the Goma.

[SocioPath]

SP-why did you pick Plum to block. Do explain.

@SocioPath
If you don't mind though, could you explain you're reason for RBing Plum? I think she seemed rather town Day 1.

I make people cry, so I figured I'd do what I do best, and make a girl cry.
So I took from that and looked at females, and chose Plum. I mean making younger girls cry is my forte!

But really, gameplaywise I didn't like her stance on KMD.

oh for god's sake...

Kmd, why the fake daykill?

Scumtrap results positive, that's why. I think this is a Kmd-town gambit.

He hasn't been the only one with faux day kills.

[SocioPath]

I'm down with lynching a non-contributer.

Unvote
Vote: KaleiÐoscøpe

Maybe some of his posts will actually have meaning with a lynch-reveal.

[SocioPath]

Hey sociopath, since you are apparently following the game enough to jump on the shiniest bandwagon, how's about you answer my questions....

I missed it, cause the same question keeps coming up, and I keep answering it, which makes you scummy in my eyes.
(And this isn't a 'miss it once and its buried in 80 pages' kind of keep asking either.)

I didn't like Plum's reaction to KMD's Daykill. She thought it was a new and miraculous tool, when KMD was like the 3rd+ trying to fake a Daykill.

[SocioPath]

HINT: LYNCH KS. SPEED WAGON. GO GO.

Please.

Please.

I still want to see an Elmo vote. (A vote from him, not on him.)

[SocioPath]

Is VP Baltar not voting scope?

Baltar may be scum guise.

Maybe scum with Vaya, since he also rubbed me the wrong way for similar reasons.

[SocioPath]

I missed it, cause the same question keeps coming up, and I keep answering it, which makes you scummy in my eyes.

So you are claiming that you missed it because it was there a lot of times...oooook.

I answered a lot of times.

Or to put it yet another way, what about her reaction made you think it was more likely to come from a scum player than a town player?

The genuineness of her reaction seemed forced.

Here is a question: Of all the night choices out there, why is mine getting the third degree?

I'm not going to delve out all the knowledge of how I determine who to RB, lest paranoid scum tries to out my style and try to outguess me.

[SocioPath]

SP, who did you block last night?

I blocked Elmo last night.

Still don't like that player spot.

And if he really IS a pro-town double voter, as no one would know because he refuses to lift a finger to vote...

...then I wouldn't be worried about blocking him anyway since that kind of ability isn't a active night ability.

We also still have the phantom vote in the vote count.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ELMO VOTE SOMEONE.

Vote: Elmo

Dear SC,

Please stop treestumping players I think are town

Love,

Llama

Ironically, it would seem that his ability only would benefit from those that are town.

[SocioPath]

No.....

Yes.....


He has stated he only steals players with 'active' roles.
And pretty much that concludes anyone with an active ability.
Which would be the powers people have.
Which would be people with powers from the Goma.
Which would be the town.

SC only BENIFITS from those with active powers. And I have yet to see scum with 'active' powers.

So my statement fits.

You blocked what you are assuming is a passive role?

No, I blocked what OTHERS are assuming to be a passive role.
I personally think that Elmo is scum.
OTHERS think that he is a pro-town double voter.
I think that such an assumption is ridiculous.
I still want to see Elmo vote someone.
So we can know ONE THING about him for certain.

[SocioPath]

No.....

Yes......

No.....

I am assuming that "dying" hurts the player in some way. Otherwise why would they die?

Either way, if he steals an active ability, the player loses the ability, so we have the same ammount of abilities in existance regardless.

Yes.....

Show me an instance where scum have Goma powers.

Until then, stop misunderstanding me.
I mean seriously. Did you even READ WHAT I SAID?

Ironically, it would seem that his ability only would benefit from those that are town.

IT SEEMS HE WOULD ONLY STEAL POWERS FROM THOSE THAT ARE TOWN.
WHICH IS IRONIC.
BECAUSE THAT WOULDN'T HELP TOWN.

SC only BENIFITS from those with active powers. And I have yet to see scum with 'active' powers.

Dunno, KK's note-sending sounded pretty active to me. I'm pretty sure the Converters have Goma powers just the same as Town; they've just turned on the Council, the Giver &c.

Notes aren't special powers. Just like Spy with his alchemy throwing. Those are physical things, not a part of someone as who they are. Anyone can write a note, anyone can throw a bottle. Not everyone has super powers.

You didn't answer my question:

In my last post I gave you every single bit of information about the roleblock I have. I can't answer it any more thoroughly, I'm sorry.

Was talking to SocioPath. You both have the same initials.

SP vs SC?

But that's cool, no worries.

SP vs SC?

But that's cool, no worries.

Whoops. Mental block. It happens .


SC, I'm asking you. Sorry for the confusion.

Make up your mind!

The worst part was I DID answer the question...then editted it out when I saw it said SC...WHICH ISN'T ME. Then I preview post again and NOW I SEE I HAVE TO ANSWER IT AGAIN! D:<

As far as I know, it blocks anything thats an active choice at night, as said before.

[SocioPath]

As far as I know, it blocks anything thats an active choice at night, as said before.

But this would affect only Elmo, yes?

Yes, I choose one person to 'block' at night.

No.....

Yes......

No.....

I am assuming that "dying" hurts the player in some way. Otherwise why would they die?

Either way, if he steals an active ability, the player loses the ability, so we have the same ammount of abilities in existance regardless.

Yes.....

Show me an instance where scum have Goma powers.

Ah... I think I kind of get where you are going... but still no

I would still think "dying" is a bad thing, and if you are treating him as a cop, he still acts as a gunsmithish role. I would guess the cons outweigh the pros. A cop who kills innocents should be looking for guilties

You still are misrepping me... so still yes.

[SocioPath]

I have reason to suspect SP may be lying about the nature of his Roleblock ability, but coincidence happens so I'm planning to reserve judgment for a bit.

Wat.

Is it considered rolefishing if I am fishing for my own role? XD

Because this does not compute at all.

Coincidence happens?

If what you are saying is what I think you are saying, then you are saying something happened to you last night?
With that in mind, there are many, many power roles.
With that in mind, SC didn't know touching people 'killed' them.

So if I do something more than make someone cry and roleblock them, I am in the dark.

[SocioPath]

Works for me.

Unvote

[SocioPath]

SP, why did you block Plum (and subsequently me)?

*eye twitches*
...

@SocioPath
If you don't mind though, could you explain you're reason for RBing Plum? I think she seemed rather town Day 1.

I make people cry, so I figured I'd do what I do best, and make a girl cry.
So I took from that and looked at females, and chose Plum. I mean making younger girls cry is my forte!

But really, gameplaywise I didn't like her stance on KMD.

oh for god's sake...

Kmd, why the fake daykill?

Scumtrap results positive, that's why. I think this is a Kmd-town gambit.

He hasn't been the only one with faux day kills.

SP, who did you block last night?

I blocked Elmo last night.

Still don't like that player spot.

And if he really IS a pro-town double voter, as no one would know because he refuses to lift a finger to vote...

...then I wouldn't be worried about blocking him anyway since that kind of ability isn't a active night ability.

We also still have the phantom vote in the vote count.

I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE ELMO VOTE SOMEONE.

Vote: Elmo

I swear that sometimes players have a post restriction as to where they have to make me repeat everything I've said endlessly, ad nausium.

[SocioPath]

What didn't you like about her stance on KMD?

Hey sociopath, since you are apparently following the game enough to jump on the shiniest bandwagon, how's about you answer my questions....

I missed it, cause the same question keeps coming up, and I keep answering it, which makes you scummy in my eyes.
(And this isn't a 'miss it once and its buried in 80 pages' kind of keep asking either.)

I didn't like Plum's reaction to KMD's Daykill. She thought it was a new and miraculous tool, when KMD was like the 3rd+ trying to fake a Daykill.

What don't you like about my player slot?

Oooooo SocioPath is bus'ing Rosso, too.

Man, I've been 'bussing' him from the beginning, cause I didn't like his play, or lack thereof. KK's obsession with him was unsettling as well. NOW I'M OBSESSED TOO! Whats more unsettling is people so quick to pass him off as a town double voter when it could just as easily be any other person in this game with the second vote.

[SocioPath]

During day 1 I noticed no one had been hung, so I decided to jailkeep Plum Night 2 to see if SP had been the one to block the kills.

I can confirm that I was blocked, as can my as-yet-unrevealed-friend.

Is that the mystery info that you thought was a part of my role?

Unvote
Vote: Milkshake

I'd love to see his response to this.

[SocioPath]

@All:

Are you getting confirmations that your actions WORKED or just that the mod RECEIVED them? This needs to be answered doubly by the roleblockers.

I get told that the choice was received. Not whether or not it actually did anything.


tubby, for not responding for 2 days, and only comes in to lynch milkshake, is super scummy.
Because his action definitely came across as lazy scum forgetting that milk being scum would make him scum because of the whole death thing. With his short-sighted quick response, I'm pretty sure it didn't go through his head, 'oh, Milkshake was JK'D, and therefor could be scum, but I didn't die because he was JK'D.' Those thoughts going through his head, seem unlikely, especially since he only took the time to vote, and not more to even try and explain his innocence.

Also, in future days, I'd like it for RBers to claim their night choices LAST, in order to make scum squirm more with actions they are lying about.

[SocioPath]

Ohh and one more I found in my re-read that I'd love to have explained:

Tell him how you could possibly know Tubby's rolename. You're not a cop, you're not mason partners. You're scum. That would be how.

This was early on in the whole fiasco yesterday. Now, this seems to be pretty clearly illustrating...well... exactly what Plum is claiming. As not. Yet, nothing was said as the things went on?

Not to mention WHY this statement was made so adamantly?

I was trying to pressure scumPlum into tripping and falling over explaining how she knew tubby's rolename.

She asked tubby's rolename, and claimed to know that. So she obviously wouldn't ask her mason buddy tubby in thread ask to what his name is in a slip. She obviously couldn't role cop him either cause of the block. So it really seemed like scum. Turns out scenario 3 was she's masons with a shared power which I didn't block.

I haven't kept it secret. The first time anyone asked me about it, I voted someone and I answered yes, I am a double voter

Just because you ignored the questions on Day2 doesn't mean they weren't asked on Day2, and that doesn't mean on Day3 is the 'first time'.

Why do you dislike my

slot

for essentially Rosso being Rosso? I could understand you not liking his play, but do you think he was actually scummy as opposed to unhelpful? What do you mean by KK's "obsession", and what do you dislike about it?

I'm not going to spoon feed you game content. Stop being lazy scum.

Plum, answer my question.

So ignoring questions is fine for you to do, but if someone else does it they get a face?

[SocioPath]

The chance of tubby being scum is much higher than the chance of milkshake.

Speculation is that milkshake is an SK.

Keeping mafia alive is far worse than keeping an SK alive.
For the reason that me RBing Plum was useless N1: someone else can perform the kill.

RBing an SK makes them useless, RBing scum makes them have a chance at being less useful.

I vote that we lynch tubby today, and let the forces of nature right the wrongs of milkshake.

Unvote
Vote: tubby216

[SocioPath]

^^^ likely Dram partner.

Heh, I was thinking tubby partner.

[SocioPath]

Numba One by far: tubbs


And way down the line at two: that guy from sesame street
Also down here at three: vibrating lactose drink



4th place would be bunneh

[SocioPath]

If you are talking about me you obviously had a very depressing childhood.

You obviously had a very paranoid and narcissistic childhood. I think I've got room to pencil you in to number five though.

[SocioPath]

Was thinking avatars... I usually dont pay any attention to username/gender icon etc. Ive had people call me female, the emo guy and a few other odd things from mine, so I figured this was just the next level.

And I figure that you have a guilty conscience.

[SocioPath]

1.) Chamber

Eh, I don't chamber is scum based on the Goma powers.

Everyone essentially has a power role. That is, all town.

The converters are pissed, and they want powers too.

So of the power roles claimed, I think the confirmable ones would all be town, cause they wouldn't be with the converters cause they were crapped out near the Goma.

A weather changer still changes the weather, and it shows him doing that. I think chamber is essentially just a VT for this game, with a fun but pointless ability.

[SocioPath]

I would think the people with the crappier powers would be more likely to be the converters, don't you SP?

I think that converters don't have ANY 'powers'. They might have abilities, but not super powers.

Thats just been my train of thought.

[SocioPath]

Have Plum and Vaya claimed to have targetted someone last night? I demand that we know the true name of the alleged "Causer of Weep"! lmfao

BM

If it gets the kids to stop laughing at me!

[SocioPath]

@Sociopath- Was I roleblocked?

I RB'd Elmo.

This Bm exchange could also be resulting from Bm getting something and then denying it, 'Haha, I could confirm you, but I won't'
I'm really not liking his responses.

[SocioPath]

We need a few people to weigh in. Namely Kise, Elmo, SP, and SC. Even though SP commented on my actions he has a wasted vote on tubby and needs to comment on his feelings on Sajin...all of these people need to comment on Sajin sentiment.

I was ready to auto-lynch Sajin for such an insane slip-up, but the mod himself came in and clarified that Sajin wasn't necessarily lying with several parts.
Not to say that clears him, but...

Bm has came out of the discussion looking the worst though for hypocritical stances and abrasive nature where it doesn't make sense to have, whether its fabricated or Bm has just lost his mind, both aren't good outcomes. Also not townie outcomes.

[SocioPath]

Me Bm?

As opposed to BM.

[SocioPath]

Alright, can Plum & Vaya choose which one of them submits the action, or do only one of them have that privilege? If it's the latter, then they don't look so good.

They choose between the two for who performs the action.
The result is then shared between them cause of that whole neighborly masonry stuff going on between them.

[SocioPath]

I hope Plum/Vaya rollnamed me so BM can get off my ass about my name.
Its bad enough that all the kids at skool laugh at me and make fun of it!

[SocioPath]

Why would someone claim being a 'hider' if they didn't know what the role of a 'hider' DOES?

[SocioPath]

You should vote for tubby.

Oh, well since you put it THAT way...

Vote: tubby216

[SocioPath]

How come you'd pull a bullet in me? You jumped just like me, almost at the same time. And so Sajin. Then, why me?

For a multitude of reasons:

It would have been the lynch, had not someone unvoted.
You double posted to throw the vote in there.
You posted beforehand without a vote, saw the L-1 and tried to make an opportunity out of it.


And I'm drug free.

[SocioPath]

And people said my vote yesterday was wasted.

[SocioPath]

@SP - Did you block me last night?

Nope.

[SocioPath]

I RB'd Sajin.

[SocioPath]

*Yawn.*

[SocioPath]

Talk about trying to go out with a bang.

BM didn't track me target VP.

BM didn't track me do anything.

BM was my target last night.

His reaction and acusations though, thats the best part. The only way he could have know that I targeted him (and hence stated me as his 'target') was that he is the reason for the lack of kill.

Man, I'm glad I waited and said nothing for this gem to come shining on out.

I still don't like Bm with his constant 'RB claim first' business, for multiple days.

Anywho, BM's 'results' confirms that he is just squirming scum.

Vote: Battle Mage

[SocioPath]

Battle Mage not being the SK surprised me.

So I think the likely hood I blocked a kill the night before last is a not less likely.

Which left me with a few posible outcomes:
Either LF succefully protected me. (nothing I can work from)
Or the killer didn't submit a choice.

So I looked at the players, and chamber said he forgot to sumbit an action.
But that was just a back up plan, because I looked at every play who didn't post on the site at all between during the night or sometime before or after.

And there was one (only one) player that hadn't posted during that same chunk of time for an extended chunk.

Which was stark.

And there were still two kills. Oh well.


Either that or the mafia are the throat slitters, and I did block the (mafia) kill.

[SocioPath]

I already said stark.

[SocioPath]

I think I've convinced myself of a stark lynch. The way I see it hes either Cult himself, or is the sk and made up a fake role.

I blocked stark. There were still 2 kills.

[SocioPath]

I think I've convinced myself of a stark lynch. The way I see it hes either Cult himself, or is the sk and made up a fake role.

I blocked stark. There were still 2 kills.

[SocioPath]

Blah.
No, I RB'd Elmo night 2, there were still two kills then as well.
Scum I wouldn't rule out, but an SK he is not.

[SocioPath]

N1: Plum; 2 Kills; No Strangling.
N2: Elmo; 2 Kills
N3: Sajin; 2 Kills
N4: Battle Mage; 1 Kill; No Throat Slit
N5: stark; 2 Kills

So none of Elmo, Sajin, or stark, are the SK.
And at this point, I'd rule out stark for being scum.

What needs to be relooked at is N1, with the lack of (most likely) SK death there.

[SocioPath]

N1 the scum JK claimed to target milkshake.
VP protected Volkan.
I RB'd Plum.

So either the SK kill was targeting milkshake, because of his claim to cure people.
Or targeted Volkan, and then targeted him AGAIN N2.

Food for thought.

[SocioPath]

This game was awesome, and I'm surprised I lived as long as I did.
<3 Power Roles.