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[Faraday]

vote Jordan

Someone voted him out of the blue and he quickly began to make random votes to make it seem like a big joke.
The fact that he is being this attentive makes him scum in my eyes.

Wait, you're not seriously suggesting being attentive is a scum tell? Why is it?

But anyway

Vote Datadanne

[Faraday]

Or mafia, Trying to appear jester to not get lynched.
Damn this is hard.
Are there Jesters in this game?

Stop the jester speculation. It detracts from scum-hunting.
If there's jesters we'll find out, discussing them is futile.

[Faraday]

Malcolm is right in regard to what WIFOM is, seems

Im in a completly different timezone than you, sorry.
Also, Wtf am i supposed to respond to?

Perhaps tells us who you suspect or what you think of the people on your wagon for a starters? What made you think Llama was a jester?

Sorry gonna catch up as I go along.

Why is everyone blindly following Llama. As far as I can tell his posts are terrible, he is either fishing for data's role, or is planning to catch him in some foolish overreaction to this junk and then push for a mislynch.

He's asking for a bandwagon on datanne. There's no real role fishing going on here, as no one is asking data to claim or anything of the sort.

Also

mis

lynch?

The wagon has certaintly been useful thus far though.

A

lso mod: internet is out at home so I'm on limited access for the moment, I'll be able to keep up with the game during uni hours but just a warning

[Faraday]

will catch up on this soon.

Weekend + Fifa 10 = busy

[Faraday]

I'm kinda caught up here, I don't see Llama starting the bandwagon as scummy, it was a good way to kick the game off, and I can see what he was trying to do, although perhaps data could have too.

Bringing up being town seems a null tell, to me. I've seen people of either alignment do it.

Ftr this seems standard-ish play from Tjoe.

Need to re-read Data's responses again, but am gonna leave my vote on him for the moment, still find the jester speculation to be scummy, and weird.

[Faraday]

@ Raivann I think its bullshit, I think he's backtracking, and I think he's scum. Llama is just throwing the heat from one source to another to make sure there are enough people with heat on them so he is safe. I believe he is scum and I'll see to it his leave from this game.

This post is a great reason to lynch Mufasa

1) OMGUS
2) Not responding to my case
3) Weak (if any) case on me. I think you are saying I am scum for pushing people.

Mufasa reads quite genuine here to me. Granted his reasons are in fact awful, but idk, I get the sense he's actually genuine in his suspicuoun. Something he prob wouldn't be as scum.

Lemme read his other post.

Also Dat seems to have disappearede when the heat went off him, I want him to come baccccck.

[Faraday]

LOLWUT zazie. why couldn't you put 2 questions in the one post, did they really all need to be seperate posts? adds posts to the thread tho.

And I followed Llama b/c I like early game bandwagons, unless there's something better to go on. Since there wasn't choo choo, see what happens. Lemme read back over these pages a bit.

I also didn't see the lyncher speculation, hence not commenting on it, but it's scummy as it detracts from scum-hunting, there's no point trying to worry about such roles, they don't end the game anyway, and trying to accomodate them leads to scummy people not being lynched.

Jordan seems to have mass flaked btw, how shit.

I find myself thinking Mufasa's claim is quite okay, I thought his reaction to Llama in the first place was more indicative of town, so I don't want to see him lynched.

I want to see Data come back, too. Rayfrost needs to post something other than a 'will post later' post too, which he's done many times.


Still relatively happy w/ my vote on Data tbh.

[Faraday]

I want to see Data come back, too. Rayfrost needs to post something other than a 'will post later' post too, which he's done many times.
Still relatively happy w/ my vote on Data tbh.

1. I am here.
2. Why are you happy with your vote?

B/c you're quite the scummy guy, admittedly your post about wanting to heabutt Zazie was fucking hilarious for the randomness alone.

[Faraday]

will catch up w/ this shortly. BEEN QUITE BUSY etc. sorry.

[Faraday]

That was a rather stupid use of the dayvig, I'd have prefered to see you kill Data w/ it.

Sociopath looked more like stubborn town, imo, even his reactions seemed to be of that. Still maybe that's hindsight on my part.

[Faraday]

Eh, his claim seems fairly testable for the moment at least.

We can always get him to self vig, later if we think making shit up as he goes along. If he doesn't we lynch him.

need to go re-read.

Unvote

[Faraday]

I nominate Faraday

Unvote, Vote: Faraday

You're agreeing or disagreeing with shit after the fact has been noted.
You have been trying to blend in, but you, Sir, are scum.
Faraday has no desire to scumhunt, posts just enough to avoid prods, goes with the flow, and deserves to die.
But I do like your avatar though.
Maybe we should lynch Bogre?!, he doesn't have an avatar.

no wai do i deserve to die, unfounded accusations.
you're probs right, I could be doing more, just not got into this game. yeh i know rit, how scummy.

gonna read the thread and put a vote down

that said we ca leave him alive for today i guess, no real harm.

data's prob a serial killer ftr, sure he could be scum claiming the kill but that's a rather stupid thing to do for scum, as it opens up the posibillity of town directing their kills somewhat. i think not being alllowed to self vig is the thing that makes him a more likely sk, as i don't believe this would be in his pm, it's just obv he can't as a sk or he loses the game.

[Faraday]

oops the last paragraph should come before the 'that said'

[Faraday]

I am also all for Datadanne self-vigging himself tonight.

No.... no no no no no no.

People who ask people to do this are just wrong. There are practically zero situations where it is the pro-town thing to do. Asking a vig to kill themselves to me is a scumtell since you are controlling the kill, and you are getting rid of useful town.

but clearly when asking that you don't know if he's useful. also a vig can also be a severe detriment to the town, more often than not.

stops the town wasting a lynch on him
which thus allows to lynch scum

are ++'s.

idk i don't see it as a bad thing at all, pointless since he can't self vig now tho.

so like has rayfrost caught up yet or what?

i apologise for my poor sentence structure/capitallisation it's cos i'm tired.

vote rayfrost

untill he posts.

Fishy and Bogre are pinguing my gut, COL COLHART was giving me a scum read but idk, dayvig is probs town w/ the way he used it.

Also Jordan was an obv VI, not sure what to make of cateraction yet

[Faraday]

Does this post from you,

Faraday

show everything you've got out of your read?
And can you elaborate on the gut feelings against Fishy and Bogre you mention?

I guess, yeh.

And nah, not really. I might go through later and read them in iso again, but apart from that, can't really express it well atm.


@ Cateraction; well IDK, his lack of posting anything of substance is scummy, so yeh I think he's scummy, and has a good chance of being scum. For the moment he just needs to post something.

[Faraday]

Prod avoidance post for the moment.

Setting up my mini normal but will get to this once that starts.

[Faraday]

Okay I'm gonna re-read the thread properly, or at least read the 2 people in iso who flipped scum.

3 scum dead, now, which is good.

SpyreX, is it possible the mod is just completely fucking with you, or do you think there's a reasonable chance of a cult?

[Faraday]

Believe Mufasa's claim more now, I think since the scum tried to copy him w/ some sort of trippy weird claim.

Amnesiac goon? Any ideas? Doesn't know the mafia? Traitor, not sure what to think of that.

[Faraday]

Sorry it took a while guys. Here are some quick reads. Feel free to ask more in depth and I'll go track down the post in question.

Bogre - I'm not a big fan of Bogre. I don't feel like he adds a lot. Just agrees with the most prominent case at the time.

Col.Cathart - Leaning very heavily town.
Datadanne - Scum. I mean, really. No contribution to the game whatsoever. Responded very poorly to Llama. The only think he's done is suggest jesters which doesn't help anyone.
Drench - Again, very little content to go on.
Faraday - Gut town read.
Fishythefish - Contributes good discussion and questions. Probably town.
LlamaFluff - Obvtown.
Malcolm - Some shoddy logic, but that's not necessarily scummy. ISO 10 makes me thinks that he's scum (he says Llama is either fishing or pushing for an overreaction that he will make into a MISlynch). Baseless attacks against Llama. I find attacking the most prominent town player for being being a leader is a scum tell.
Mufasa - Village idiot, but the claim is good, and I think town.
Muffin - Jumps on Data pretty easily, not much else contributed. Leaning scum.
Raivann - flip-flopping, wagon hopping, and useless speculation. Most likely scum.
RayFrost - Who?
Sociopath - Don't understand his stance on Llama. Please explain.
Tjoe Min Ja - No read.
X_~ - Calls jordan scum, then makes a case on socio based of that, then unvotes and concedes maybe he's just excited town. Then revotes Jordan and FoSes Socio. Then says that Jordan is town, socio is scum. Make up your mind man! I read scum.
ZazieR - No Read.

Some notes on my predecessor. I think his actions can all be boiled down to a new player. I really don't like the scum gloating tell because I've seen new town do it as often as new scum.

Ok, so Jordan is excited to start this new game. Jumps in guns ablazing and comes under some scrutiny and freaks out. He plays his newbie card really strongly and even softclaims. Then when no one believes him, he lurks and gets replaced. It's how some new people play when they don't understand the progression and style of the game.

Any questions?

What stands out here is the no read on zazie, who had fifty 'fucking' two posts here at this point. That's fairly fishy imo.

Hey Let's

Vote ZazieR

In SpyreX we trust. YES WE CAN.

[Faraday]

If he is screwing with me he is doing a real, real good job with it so I'm leaning on there actually being a cult. (Hint: My win condition is not, but ALMOST the same as the one in the OP)

So, yea, I'd bet ohh... 95% chance of cult with a small chance of ?.

Heh, what a bastard mod. Fair enough.

[Faraday]

^^ Good idea if he can shoot again, idk if he said if he could, but if he does that's a good option alright.

As for cult hunting, cult leader could be hard to find.

[Faraday]

No one's trying to 'quicklynch' zazie, so yeh, there's the answer to the question.

Interested in hearing Sera's response to Fishy is atm.

With a dayvig and a lycnh still it gives us a good opportunity.

[Faraday]

Approve of the Vig Sera plan unless he can satsify fishy's questions and stuff.

[Faraday]

Drench's posts so far:
- Voting the mod, unhelpful.
- Asking questions to Data and Jordan which had already been asked repeatedly
- Asking Llama questions with obvious and uninformative answers, the second of which is rolefishing
- Telling Muffin to stop posting fluff
All in all, he has done no scumhunting at all, and a bit of rolefishing. His questions to Llama look like an attempt to distract from the Data wagon, which is a good source of information at this point. If I know anything for sure, it is that Drench is scum.

I think that if Data visited semioldguy, at this point he should consider claiming that.

Is it usual for millers to know they are millers?

Vote: Drench

Fishy's claim makes sense, it would also explain some of the over-confidence here early in the game. I thought he was some form of tracker from the way he phrased it too, so in that respect Sera's reactions do feel okay to me.

[Faraday]

So, what's the conclusion? Fishy is the insane cop, and we're leaving Seraphim, or are we checking it for confirmation on sanity of the Fish?

Fishy's probably insane/paranoid, no way to know which. Of course it's possible he's got 2 scum, but very unlikely, as there's probably only 2 mafia left at most, I'd imagine.

[Faraday]

He didn't see him go to anyone. He was trying to get Sera to panic and claim/make up an action.

Fishy's a cop, see post 830.

[Faraday]

Is two cops in a game normal?

It's not impossible. Seeing as this is a bastard game I'd make no assumptions.

[Faraday]

...It might make sense, yes.


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Subtle.

[Faraday]

idr a quicklynch attempt on zaz. also where is he? he's posted in other games.

v/la for ??? internet out at home AGAIN. could be back tonight or in 2 days idk

[Faraday]

zazzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee is lurkkaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

[Faraday]

zazzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee is lurkkaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Zaz was busy (Still am). See sig.

saw that you were NON BUSY enough to post quite a bit in other games, and sign up for a new one.

so yeh, lolno.

[Faraday]

^^ Good idea if he can shoot again, idk if he said if he could, but if he does that's a good option alright.

As for cult hunting, cult leader could be hard to find.

Also vig directing.
Other thing is the support to vig-kill me and to look for a possible cult leader, yet still having his vote on me and not looking for a possible cult leader.

UMAD? Haven't found the leader yet, I'll keep you posted tho, don't worry.

[Faraday]

whoot is probably town, I think.

[Faraday]

zazzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee is lurkkaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Zaz was busy (Still am). See sig.

saw that you were NON BUSY enough to post quite a bit in other games, and sign up for a new one.

so yeh, lolno.

We've been here before Faraday.
Also, check those games you saw me posting in. All those games had only a few posts to which I needed to respond. Check now those I didn't post in. Multiple pages were are waiting for me.
Next time, please check all games before making a bad accusation.

We, as in me and you? I don't believe so.
So between when this game opened and now you haven't had a chance to post in it? Okay, if you say so.

[Faraday]

Fishythefish is town, I believe what he has to say, and I have rolebased info to do so, lynch Zazier, dayvig seraphim sounds like a plan.

Vote Whoot

OBV OMGUS

[Faraday]

zazzzzzzzzzzzzziiiiiiiiiiiiieeeeeeeeeee is lurkkaaaaaaaaaaaaan.

Zaz was busy (Still am). See sig.

saw that you were NON BUSY enough to post quite a bit in other games, and sign up for a new one.

so yeh, lolno.

We've been here before Faraday.
Also, check those games you saw me posting in. All those games had only a few posts to which I needed to respond. Check now those I didn't post in. Multiple pages were are waiting for me.
Next time, please check all games before making a bad accusation.

We, as in me and you? I don't believe so.
So between when this game opened and now you haven't had a chance to post in it? Okay, if you say so.

Twilight.
Had the chance, but due to time, I didn't take it.

oh you replaced out of that game b/c you were upset people didn't like you lurking/not posting/being busy...w/e.

I stand by the accusation, if you're too busy then you probably shouldn't overload yourself.

[Faraday]

Fishythefish is town, I believe what he has to say, and I have rolebased info to do so, lynch Zazier, dayvig seraphim sounds like a plan.

Vote Whoot

OBV OMGUS

See my reasons before you make once again a bad accusation.

That sure wasn't sarcasm AT ALL.

Stop being bad.

[Faraday]

Yeh....are you guys reading whoot's post? It's pretty obvious what he's implying.

[Faraday]

Also, I think I forgot to ask, but

Faraday

, why do you think Whoot is town?

I read his posts and came to the conclusion he's very likely town. Skim him in ISO, I think it's fairly obvious.

[Faraday]

YO CHECKING IN.

Shoot someone obviously to prove you still can. I'd like Zazie shot I guess, means we can lynch someone else.

Mufasa seems townie ish, although with a cult around (probably) that's not a good indication of him being town. He's also unlikely to be an amnesiac cult leader (though it's not impossible I guess, would be bastardly at least)

SpyreX, fishy (w/ the claim) whoot and data seem bad enough shots atm. Tjoe feels vaguely town but I have trouble reading him

Didn't even know BC was still alive, so I'd not object to his death, same w/ Bogre really, but that could be because he doesn't have an avatar.

[Faraday]

how many investigaive roles do we have? hmm.

well woot could easily be naive and fishy paranoid I guess so it could make sense.

[Faraday]

Unvote:
Vote: Faraday

I read an ISO of Faraday, and he gives me iffy vibes. Not really liking him right now. Mostly a gut read though.

Disagree w/ this obviously.

unvote vote bogre

zazie wagon seems to be going no where.

[Faraday]

voting him b/c I think he has a good chance of being scum.

thanks for calling me out on a lack of case, thought for sure I'd skate by on that one w/o anyone noticing [/sarcasm]. also hypocritical since your case on me was fucking stellar.


and whoot is obv town as his cop claim was coming from a mile away. reads genuinely newbie to me.

[Faraday]

gut btw was my reason.

[Faraday]

voting him b/c I think he has a good chance of being scum.

thanks for calling me out on a lack of case, thought for sure I'd skate by on that one w/o anyone noticing [/sarcasm]. also hypocritical since your case on me was fucking stellar.


and whoot is obv town as his cop claim was coming from a mile away. reads genuinely newbie to me.

Why does bogre have such a high chance of being scum, isn't it just as much as anyone else in this game?

Faraday, your posts seem very opportunistic. You seem to be voting based on other players suggestions (SpyreX suggesting that Zaz heavily bussed X_~, and i believe fishythefish suggesting that Bogre was scum). You don't seem to be scum hunting at all, and that may be a scum-tell.
You also suggest to Spyre that the mod is screwing with him, and you question him. IMO, that's fishing. Several of your posts even feel like IIoA, at least to me they do.

Clearly if it was as much as anyone in the game I'd roll a die and let randomness decide, now wouldn't I? If you don't believe I have reasons i.e. gut and i'm making it up as I go along then fair enough, but to suggest I'm voting randomly is stupid.

It

may

be a scum tell? It's probably a pretty good one in general I'd say, but I disagree w/ the accusation.
I suggest the mod is screwing with him? Uhm..it's a bastard game, of course I suggest that. IMO you don't understand the definition of fishing, he's aleady claimed his damn role, so what exactly am I fishing?

'At least they do to me' oh lawdy well you should trust your own opinion.

Also dunno fi spyreX's question was @ me, but scum = not town to me. Lynch all the bastards.

[Faraday]

Lets be clear:

You think Bogre is
a.) Mafia
b.) SK
c.) Cult

equal chances of a and c, have never really tried to differentiate cult scum from other type of scum, not b too many other sk candidates.

[Faraday]

would make an educated guess @ C though.

[Faraday]

not one in particular. If cult he's more concerned about his survival than anything else, I get a sense that this is the case from reading his posts. He also seems to be less agressive Day 2 than he was day 1, IMO. Which could be an indication of being culted.

[Faraday]

Yeh, I'm a retard who forgot that.

[Faraday]

]

His voting pattern on D1 is giving me gut not-town signals (could be another scum or the cult member), and his quick vote on Bogre, when BC voted him seems really suspicious to me.

Why is that suspicious?

[Faraday]

Unvote:
Vote: Faraday

I read an ISO of Faraday, and he gives me iffy vibes. Not really liking him right now. Mostly a gut read though.

I guess my point is that you are saying you think Bogre has a high chance of being scum, but you have neglected to point out any posts that even "activate" your gut feelings, basically, you have no case against him. It feels like your case is just fluff, or non existant.... well... it is, you haven't given a case.

And I guess my point is I give you iffy vibes but you have neglected to point out any posts that even activate your iffy vibes, Basically you have no case against me. It feels like your case is just fluff, or non existant...well..it is, you haven't given a case.

C wut i did der? Your questioning me on my lack of case when you haven't given one of your own. In fact you've done pretty much what I've done with my vote, in not give reasons, yet it's scummy for me to not give reasons but okay for you.

Riiiight

Care to expand?

On what? Pretty fucking clear imo.

Regardless of him semi-claiming, i don't think we need to know anymore information about it. And it seems as if you must disagree. Just because it's a bastard game, doesn't mean you have to try and discredit Fishy.

Wat. 1) where am I fishing. 2) Where did I discredit fishy in any way. Isn't he the paranoid/insane cop so..what have I done to discredit him? Are you making this up as you go along or something?

[Faraday]

Bogre's posting in other games but hasn't posted here in a week.

MOD: prod him

[Faraday]

I really do believe in a Zaz lynch , but since thats not happening, I don't like the way faraday has been voting either.

unvote vote faraday

lurk moar btw.

[Faraday]

vote faraday

@Faraday : who is a better lynch than you?

Erm, from my point of view pretty much everyone since I know I'm town.

Bogre/BC/Data are all better lynches than me though.

[Faraday]

That's because part of my case is based on people reading you in ISO. Whether or not they do that, is up to them. Nowhere in your posts do you mention that Bogre is
You mention Bogre here, but only specify that he is pinging your gut. Zazie then asks you shortly after if you can expand on that read, and you say that you would have to do an ISO, have you done your ISO yet? Other than that,

almost a month

around two weeks goes by before you really mention Bogre again. When he does come around this next time, you said that you didn't know he was still around. Why weren't you paying attention to one of your "lead" suspects? Then you still vote Bogre based on nothing. There is my extended case on you. I expect a full rebuttal soon.

Part of your case? it was pretty much all of your case before this post iirc.
I mention Bogre is....? What? Scummy?
He's been reasonably scummy I feel, I've got like town reads of varying strength on a fair few players so obviously I won't be voting for them.
I didn't mention him b/c I forgot about him, so when it was obvious the zazie wagon was going no where I changed my vote, read a couple of people in iso and voted for Bogre.
Thanks for letting me know what you expect, I'd have totally been clueless as to what to do if not

Well, you don't think that scum-tell applies to your situation, where as I do. Can you at least point out several posts of yours where you are scum hunting?

Idk I thought you read me in iso, I thought I was scum-hunting for most of day 1.

Will get to that last part shortly. I have to get to class :X
-Then study for a test, then take the test
-Then read for a class....
-Next post should be up tonight :X

k.

[Faraday]

Why is that the obvious answer in this setup?

- Do I believe SpyreX?
--- Yes: Look for cult.
--- No: Lynch SpyreX

The SK (outed by the mafia) is NOT going to be the cult.

Isn't 4/1/cult a little unbalanced for the town though? If there's a cult? I guess if cateraction was a traitor is might be slightly easier, but it looks a hard win for the town even w/ a dayvig.

[Faraday]

will come back w/ a proper post later on btw.

[Faraday]

I'm working on a long (long) post now. It'll be up later or tomorrow or whenever i finish it.

[Faraday]

Eh, gonna give a run down on everyone in the game for my own benefit anyway. Let's see how this goes. Edit as i'm reading BC, holy shit this is gonna take a fucking while. Sorry if this is hard to read or w/e, not gonna link to every post I mention, it takes way too fucking long.

BloodCovenent 

replaces Muffin

  :Muffin doesn't have that much to go through really. His second post of questioning why someone is probably town seems off, I generally don't think asking peopler to explain town reads is a good idea unless they're about to be lynched or gonna die but w/e. The next post is weird, I don't see how that would implicate him as scum really. Also just noting this would once again go with whoot's soft claiming of the cop, Malcolm seemed to be hinting at it early on. He then jumps on the random data wagon for no real reason, he'd not mentioned it before now in fact. His

5th

post (Post 95) is rather wut. I assume he's reffering to Llama as he's directly after him, it's obvious Llama is trying to force data to panic here, I don't see what stinks. Drench/Muffin interaction is rather blah. Stupid, don't like his response to drench calling him out though. 'Chill out' is fine, but I agree w/ what drench said.

Post 131

(8 in iso)

is

playing the newbie card to some degree, while trying to maintain he's not, scummy.. That's the end of him.

BC

replaces in. His first post.

BC

why did you 'like Jordan' or what he said? Comments on Jordan's pressure vote. How is fishy's back pedalling scummy here? It's fairly fucking obvious he couldn't have certain on page w/e that someone was scum.
On your page 8 comments WOAH, where is the phrase

quick lynch

mentioned by raivann? I don't see it here, he said he wants someone lynched, okay, I don't see why that's even really that scummy, doesn't mean it has to be now.

Ugh and you did all that w/o your role pm'ing. That's kind of fucking useless isn't it, and not really playing mafia. We might as well have a neutral observer analyse a game.

BC iso 5 'The only way you can guarantee that is if you're scum' refering to Raivann saying Mufasa is town. Well this is quite obviously not true. Masons, cop investigation etc etc.

Agreed with his data vote. Switches back after the claim. And vig is a fucking horrible claim for scum imo, so yeh completely disagree w/ that point. Post 622 is stupid. Directing the vig is pretty bad as it lets the mafia plan. Who knows what roles are in the game so vigging a specific person could easily be prevented.
Also you intially seem to believe data's claim and then start to question it. Surely don't unvote untill you question him.

Votes X (or whatever it is). Good vote here actually.

He rides the X lynch to completion, though admittedly disappears for the rest of the day after parking his vote on there. If he's bussing he decided to jump on early.
Your vote on Whoot is bad. He's already beaten us over the head with his softclaiming of cop by then. Why are you voting him? Did you read his posts? Not believe him?
You vote Zazie on day 2. Agressiveness =/= scum. How many games have you played w/ Zazie? Is your sample size really big enough to try and meta her? Oh wait? She was scum in those games and you're using her agressiveness as a scumm tell. Does not fucking compute here. Telling people to ask you questions is scummy, make an effort , scum hunt.
this is really weird. You say you hate this argument but
here you use something remarkably similar in talking about raivann.

Disappears then for a bit and comes in w/ an unexplained vote for me. Then goes all 'lol hypocritical' when I vote w/o reasons despite doing the same thing.

Overall verdict

: Bleh for a guy who's accusing me of a lack of scum-hunting he's not exactly the paragon of mafia hunters himself. I get that he's been busy. Some little things about his catch up post niggle me. I'd like him to explain the difference in his stances in the 2 linked posts too if possible. Still think his reasons for voting me are pretty poor.

As it stands he's mildy scummy, I'd say. A decent lynch, there are a lot worse.

Bogre 

At least this guy has only 27 posts. His second post jumps out. Answers a question for X's. Possible connection there in answering a question for a buddy. Again adresses X in his 3rd post. Bleh just noting his interactions w/ the dead scum. Adressing him unneccessarily here imo.
His 4th post is okay to start w/ questions data and stuff. Then quotes X again. He tells X he's not helping the town here, but doesn't actually call him scummy either. Expresses no suspicioun what so ever of him.
Lyncher speculation being fueled is stupid, in his next post. Brings up cop sanities, let the cop work that out themselves. Votes X in post 6 for fos'ing like crazy. Weak vote really.

'Well maybe you know they're town' is horrible rhetoric really, lol. Oh here we go switches his vote away from X on to Mufasa. Moves back onto X in the face of Mufasa's claim. You didn't like his claim..yet you switched? Okay weird? Or am I reading this wrong.

Bogre do you believe not defending yourself against actions and scum-hunting to be scummy? You accuse cateraction of this, if I'm reading it correctly. Yeh t'rying to jump on someone else rather than defend himself' is what you accuse cateraction of doing. He replaced in, he clearly can't justify his replacees actions. Weird.
Cateraction says as much and you say 'good answer'. Really? Accusation was awful in the first place.
Post 14 in iso is basically fence sitting on Data's claim. Nice job.

Sera's accusation of cruising is probably quite apt really. It's what you've been doing.

Bogre did you ever go back and read cateraction and x in a new light?
Your 20th post is just questions, no opinions on the game. Also lol you popped up as soon as someone suggested your death.

Votes raivann for being anti-town. Anti-town =/= scummy. Does really nothing then untill he pops up in response to my vote. So b/c the guys who aren't scummy to you aren't getting lynched you do..nothing? Push a case on data of you want him lynched? Your content to sit back and let people you find scummy live. X is dead, you voted him, but apart from that barely mentioned him.

Verdict:

holy shit this guy is scum. He stayed away from X untill he had to. Jumped on Cateraction for shitty reasons (yeh cat was scum but seems traitorish IMO) and has decided to sit back b/c people he finds scummy aren't getting lynched. Basically he's okay he's not in ther spotlight and doesn't care who's lynched. If there's another scum BC would be a good candiate, he seems to be worried about him getting lynched. Could be a cult leader/recruit type relationship but his interaction w/ X makes it look like he's mafia bussing to me.

Col.Cathart 

: Okay this guy is the dayvig. He's clearly not mafia for that reason alone. If he keeps hisd powers then it's fairly unlikely he's cult. Killing cult = way fucking OP'd. I can read more into his posts if you want but he's a town read atm, his claim alone makes me think that. SK at the very worst, altho the guy below is obviously a better chance of that.

Datadanne :

Wants to headbutt zazie. Srsly read him in iso. It's hilarious. Jester speculation, obv scummy comments. He's probably the SK, zazie has information saying that to be true also. Not gonna waste my time but he needs to be lynched at next convienience. He can wait though, I guess.

Verdict

here is this fuckin' guy is scum.
Faraday  Obv town and sexy.

Fishythefish

 - Fishy's claim matches up w/ his actions. I believe the claim and thus think he's probably town. His early play and tunneling on drench fits his claim very well as does the supposed breadcrumb, makes sense more than a bad choice of wording actually. Plus the way he managed to get seraphim to claim is imo quite town like. He gets on Jordan and votes him quite early, so even w/ the guitly he's obviously keeping an open mind here. Bastard game etc. This does make more sense. Bleh I'm getting tired. I had a gut scum read on him at one point, but reading him again w/ a clearer set of eyes he looks

okay

.Claim makes him likely town imo. Bleh I'm not going to iso and go through his posts as much as I feel he's probably town, so w/e.

Verdict

: Neutralish but his claim makes sense given his play so he's a town read atm.


So yeh that's like half the playerlist and that took fucking ages. As it stands Bogre lynch > all. It'll probably remain that way.

Okay I have more to come later. I need a break, that took a fair bit of effort and time. So make sure and fucking read it.

Erm of the remaining people 2 are possible scum and everyone else is fairly townie so IDK.

Tjoe and Zazie would be those two, btw. Everyone else left to do i've a town read of varying strength on. So we'll see.

So yeh, vote for Bogre. And if not lynch him tomorrow plz. More later IMO.

[Faraday]

Seraphim, ZazieR and Faraday is scum.
SpyreX and Col.Colhart are cult.

Yeh, that seems quite likely.

And yes Bogre, I do.

[Faraday]

As for the other players, I'll go through them quickly. Apparently it doesn't make a difference anyway

Mufasa reads town to me for a variety of reasons. First of all his claim, if he's scum is really really ballsy. We've already seen one amnesiac goon, so yeh. Raivann was an amnesiac townie, Mufasa can target people. I think it's possible he could be some sort of amnesiac cult leader. That'd be pretty bastardly and also would kinda balance the cult. Has he claimed who he targeted yet? (He did say he can target someone rit, unless I'm a retard)

SpyreX is obv town imo. He screams town. His claim helps as, if scum it's really really ...well weird and out of the blue. No reason scum SpyreX would claim that etc.

Sera reads quite town to me actually. First I like his posts since he got in the game, although he has been l/a quite a bit. Agreed w/ him on his early Bogre/X connection (both are scum ftr) and I think the way he handled the claim or die thing by fishy speaks favourably. I'd imagine if he was scum and thought fishy did have something then he'd have claimed a power role. Bleh not concrete but I'd not go about lynching him yet.

Zazia could do w/ being vigged. Mostly sheeping of SPyreX's case here in all honesty. I'm not going to read her in iso fuilly, I took a skim, he's got too many posts to go through and it's late.

ERMMMMMMMM one more to go iirr. Be back w/ that soon ^_^

[Faraday]

Still want BC to bring up my dis-crediting fishy who when he claimed was a self admitted insane/paranoid cop. he must be back from class now SURELY?

[Faraday]

Tjoe is probably scum.

Read him in iso. He doesn't vote untill like page 9, fos's X then follows up w/ a vote but gets off onto whoot for putting X @ L-1 (that's not scummy)

X where are you post (iso 32) looks like him trying to prod a scumbuddy to get active to avoid being lynched.
Today he votes whoot who was clearly making sure it was known he was a cop and votes me for no reason despite not really mentioning me before now.

This guys probably scum of some sort, not sure what. Most likely mafia, mebbe.

Seriously?

Oh whoot is the other person. He's town.

[Faraday]

Thanks for reading my post and answering my questions Bogre.

[Faraday]

Stop responding to Data's retarded posts. You honestly think there's 6 scum a cult and data sk?

[Faraday]

Eh I've played with Tjoe before and he was town, I don't know he seems different here than there but that's about it. He could be scum he could be town I find it hard enough to get a read on him.

[Faraday]

I think bogre should go before faraday

unvote vote faraday

wat.

[Faraday]

what fucking push? there is no push. bogre is the best lynch.

[Faraday]

2) I think Mufasa is unlikely cult, given his claim day one.

I don't see how.

[Faraday]

data shoot one of them tonight if you want people to keep thinking you're a vig, lawl.

dayvig one of the others tomorrow and lynch another and you're pretty much guaranteed to hit some cult. if you haven't by then 1) oh fuck and 2) might mean the cult is a red herring.

[Faraday]

also note IF mufasa is a cult leader it means he has no cult followings if he's telling the truth about missing night 0.

he tried SpyreX night 1, so he'd have 0 recruits. that's if he is a leader.

[Faraday]

also fishy idk how my recent posts strikes you as cult/scum, perhaps i'd have been better lurking 'till deadline.

[Faraday]

That's not a push @ a Tjoe lyncbh /facepalm. That's me saying he's most likely mafia and can wait.

[Faraday]

just noting a majority is required to lynch.

[Faraday]

read a couple of people in iso and voted for Bogre.

Which players, why and why Bogre over the others?
Also, why didn't you point out the things you didn't like about Bogre after your ISO read on him?

bogre/bc/tjoe.

He was the scummiest, I said as much in my detailed analysis. I didn't point stuff out b/c I hadn't took notes, or anything like that. I just read and went w/ my gut.

[Faraday]

Seraphim, ZazieR and Faraday is scum.
SpyreX and Col.Colhart are cult.

Yeh, that seems quite likely.

How serious is this?

0/10 on the serious scale. It's also quite obvious and a pointless question

[Faraday]

I love how much scrambling faraday is doing right now,

Yeh I forgot I was supposed to lie down and play dead when I'm being lynched.

[Faraday]

Mufasa what did you do last night w/ your abilliites?

The daykill obv won't work, 2 daykillers lol?

[Faraday]

Remember I don't know any abilities that I might have because that part of my role is lost.

I'm taking from the post before this you need to specify which action you want to take rather than just target a player?

Mufasa's reading quite honest here to me, ftr.

[Faraday]

Yeah CC was gonna get lynched eventually so there was obviously no way he could win.

Nice try at a gambit SpyreX, and yeh, weird set-up, fun game though, just sorry I was lynched.