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vote Jordan

Someone voted him out of the blue and he quickly began to make random votes to make it seem like a big joke.
The fact that he is being this attentive makes him scum in my eyes.

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Also, notice the use of exclamation marks (!!) in each of his posts.

I can easily see him being mafia.
First he acted surprised that 3 people died. I mean sure, I bet everyone was sort of like 'WTF', but you do not need to post the obvious.

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You seem to not know the real purpose of the RVS stage. If you don't provide valid arguments for your vote, then what is the point of RVS if people are just going to take it as a big joke.

I can see the mafia taking it as a joke, as this will only hurt the town.

Right now Jordan, it seems that you are trying to prove yourself to me. Is it because you know I am not in your affiliation?

And in your first post, I got the feeling that your were pumped! But now you say it was awkward... And why would you stop posting? Not posting is the worst thing a townie can do.

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You seem to not know the real purpose of the RVS stage. If you don't provide valid arguments for your vote, then what is the point of RVS if people are just going to take it as a big joke.

Oh the irony of how that is directed towards Jordan.

The fact that you kinda defended Jordan tells me 2 things:
1. Jordan is mafia and you are not.
2. You are mafia and Jordan is not.

Why?
Because if Jordan is mafia, I don't think that one of his teammates are going to all defend him all of the sudden.
If Jordan is a townie, I can definitely picture you being mafia trying to defend a townie to build trust.

Sociopath, I was trying to say that going 'vote x_~ because I'm hungry' is pointless and just plain stupid.

I looked over the posts and I got a feeling that Jordan was 'faking' his posts. I demand you to read over the posts and tell me who YOU get a odd vibe from. I did not based my vote on random reasons.

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You seem to not know the real purpose of the RVS stage. If you don't provide valid arguments for your vote, then what is the point of RVS if people are just going to take it as a big joke.

Oh the irony of how that is directed towards Jordan.

The fact that you kinda defended Jordan tells me 2 things:
1. Jordan is mafia and you are not.
2. You are mafia and Jordan is not.

Why?
Because if Jordan is mafia, I don't think that one of his teammates are going to all defend him all of the sudden.
If Jordan is a townie, I can definitely picture you being mafia trying to defend a townie to build trust.

First, im going to call you X from now on.

Second, you should vote data, it will be a good early wagon.

Third, lotta flaws here. While I am a player who hates the random phase and will tend to try and end it as fast as possible, this isnt the way to go about it. You are setting up a logical fallacy here to start, by saying either situation A or B has to be true, while ignoring all other scenarios. The most obvious scenario that you are discounting is one of my favorites...

Town defending town. If you are good with getting town reads, its completely understandable to defend one of them. I have done this a whole lot of times before, and will do it in the future as well. Just like a scum read, you have to push your town reads. Nothing is scummy about defending someone you have pegged as town.

In fact, I did considered a town defending a town, but I wanted to see Sociopaths response to that....who knows, maybe sociopath knows Jordan is a townie hence the defending. Mason? Of all the people being voted, he defended Jordan. That is why I only listed 2 out of the 6 possible scenarios.

You want me to start a bandwagon against Datadann, and I have no idea why?
Your reason, "this is a good vote"
But you never stated WHY this is a good vote. When you have more knowledge than the rest of us, I suggest you somehow let us know; otherwise, I don't think people are going listen, well not me at least.

I'm fine if you guys refer to me as "X".

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Hey guys.

Vote:Josh Lynman

Btw I think that you're looking into to deeply in the RVS of the game, X. Most of these votes are lighthearted and shouldn't be taken too analytically to assume scenarios or accusations on the votes thus far in this stage of the game.

Listen, if this was a normal day 1 I would approach this in a different manner. Remember, this game started at night, and 2 townies and 1 mafia died.
I don't see the roles being revealed, but I can assume that the mafia targeted semioldguy and his lover committed suicide. I am not sure if these two lovers killed the one mafia, but that is not important.

I am taking this day a bit seriously because in this case WE DO have something to work off. Not as much as a Day 2, but definitely more than a Day 1.

those are my thoughts of the current game state.

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Llamafluff is obv a jester.

lol what? Thats a wierd reaction to me asking for a wagon on you.

You want me to start a bandwagon against Datadann, and I have no idea why?
Your reason, "this is a good vote"
But you never stated WHY this is a good vote. When you have more knowledge than the rest of us, I suggest you somehow let us know; otherwise, I don't think people are going listen, well not me at least.

Its just a good spot to start a wagon. Dont role fish for information on why I think its a good wagon. If I do have information, it will show itself soon enough.

Well if Jordan is a new player, I can picture myself being excited too. So I will step back away from Jordan and

unvote: Jordan

. BUT

FoS Jordan

. Going to keep a close eye on him.

I am also going to

FoS Datadanne

because he the whole jester distraction. I don't think it warrants a vote yet.

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vote Datadanne

I was expecting a response from him, but I think people respond under pressure.

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I see two very good cases.

Jordan's action could be seen as an excited new townie, or scum trying to act surprised and worried.

Datadanne's action could be seen as a townie taking things easy and jokingly saying that Llama is a jester. If this is the case, we can trust both Datadanne and Llama. Think about it. Or he could be scum, causing a distraction. I think that is not the case, because it is too obvious.

In the past, I spotted mafia posts within the first couple of posts they make. I think this is the time when they are most likely to slip because they don't know how to blend in in such early stage of the game. This is why I still have strong feelings towards Jordan. I think Jordan is the better bandwagon. Sociopath changed my mind about Jordan, but I am going with what I think is the option.

unvote Datadanne
vote Jordan

FoS Sociopath

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Bandwagoning data created reactions. Now I got 3 more people I suspect (Tjoe + the 2 he called out)
I do not know if this is what Llamafluff intended to happen or not. I am 50/50 on you, Llama. I don't understand why people are listening to everything you say.

The Tjoe issue, what I immediatly thought was that, out of everyone that bandwagoned, he chose 1 town+1 mafia to call out.

FoS Tjoe.

Llama, what do you think of Tjoe? Do the people he called out stand out for you as well?

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UNVOTE

VOTE: ~X

You're FOSing like crazy.

I think that comes from an unwillingness to vote and look suspicious.

No. Lurking and not contributing is crazy.

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Unvote, Vote:Jordan

I'll take Faraday's word on Tjoe as Ive never played with him before.

That's a poor reason for unvoting. I approve the Jordan vote though.

At this point lynching jordan would yield more information than lynching anyone else imo. People have defended, attacked, FoSed, voted, and unvoted Jordan.

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unvote
vote mufasa

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I could understand RayFrost if this thread was 25+pages long, but it isn't.

I replaced into another game and it has nearly 30 pages, I am overwhelmed.

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unvote Mufasa

I voted to put pressure on Mufasa, he responded how I expected a townie to respond (upset, hopeless, etc). But he also responded by attacking the one that attacked him. That wasn't smart of him. It still makes me wonder why everyone listens to Llama and maybe drop an FoS. But Mufasa is one of the few to actually vote and build a case against Llama.
Because of the above reasons, I think Mufasa is town.
I am also looking at those who voted mufasa after me, and didn't question why I changed my vote when I was the one that started the Jordan bandwagon.

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We are not back to square "one"
We are far from that, now we have information on data AND mufasa. If they are lying, as the game develops this will become evident.

What is it exactly do you don't like from me? Is it because I attacked Jordan(cateraction) and he went lurker mode after that?
You defended him after the bandwagon started, do you have some sort of information to back this up?
Every bandwagon has a purpose, and most of the time the purpose is to gain information through reactions; Jordan dodged. Why should I stop suspecting him? Why aren't you suspecting him?

I'm thinking that:
1. Jordan is townie: Sociopath is mafia
2. Sociopath is townie (with reasons to defend Jordan) : Jordan is townie
3. Both are mafia. Low probability as scum would usually avoid contact with each other.


I don't see a townie sticking up his head for another player who is potentially scum. Unless there's a reason. So those A & B are the most likely scenarios.


btw: Cateraction replaced Jordan.
I want to see something from him.

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So many 'why' questions, if you are asking for evidence or w/e I don't have any.
Why I changed my votes from Jordan to data/mufasa? to see which scumbags would do the same seeing that I, the one that started the Jordan(cateraction) lynch, is changing votes. I've stuck with Jordan vote because some people agreed, some defended him. Mason possibility?

So, Zazier did you replaced someone?

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I'll try to be a little more active.

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vote Datadanne

not convincing

DEFEND YOURSELF!

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im here sorry guys ;(

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If data = SK, can we ask him not to kill at night?

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If data = SK, can we ask him not to kill at night?

???
it's better if we ask him to kill the scummiest player

FOS X~

The sk would listen if the kill benefits him. Asking for no kill is tough to comply to

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unvote
vote Datadanne

I don't like the sks at all.
ZazieR, I'll respond to people I actually trust, not one who attacks everyone and automatically assumes one is scum if your questions aren't answered/

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sorry for not posting (once again)
had car accident, car was totaled, sorting all that stuff out.

Zazier I did not answer your posts because tbh you posted like 3 pages worth of questions and I wasn't down for that.

I am all for lynching the SK, who claimed he didn't know if he had any ability before.

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datadane claimed sk/vigi?
I thought someone stated that. I proposed to ask him to not kill anyone.

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When Llama was all over data, data said he had no idea if he had any ability, all he knew was his alliance.

When I was absent, it seems he claimed vigi/sk and people said he killed DeathNote night (0).

I don't see why he would lie unless he is the sk.

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I'm at L-1...q-q

But I can still help.

Well, I suggest looking at who voting me by agreeing on what someone else said. That's a scumtell.
Who made attacks but didn't follow through.
I have no idea what my alliance is since my pm was messed up and it was "lost". I supposed to be helped by you guys in figuring out my alliance T_T
I hope my alliance get announced once I am lynched so at least you guys have information to work with.

I started this game very enthuasiastic, but am not used to this pace. Been having problems irl so I am really busy. Everything is starting to get sorted out though.
I think my lynching will help the town far more than me staying alive.

GO TOWN!!!

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ebwop: ignore my grammars ;x

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If a mason is what I am looking for, I hope he comes forth.