Xyl's Anime Bastard Chaos - Game Over!

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I can only post the truth in red. I-

Oh wait, wrong game ^-^

But, for this game, we instead go with

Vote Xyl

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As if you could defeat Beatrice the Endless Golden Witch! You are 1000 years too young for-


Dammit, I'm not Beatrice! No matter how much I want to roleplay her in every game I play that has to do with anime .

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EBWOP: I also need glasses. Where do I get them?

Here you go

Rule of Cool) Put some damn Kamina glasses in your avatar. I don't care how you do it. Failure will result in me insulting you in every post of yours I see that doesn't have a Kamina'd avatar. This is a real rule.

I link the glasses in the post

Do you wish to lynch the mod?

Yes

Is this a pastime in Xyl's games?

If it's not, it SHOULD be

Does not compute. And Xyl is not in this game. Double Fail.

This will assist your computations

Sajin & Xyl are obv-scumbuddies.

vote: Xyl

Unright is quite correct.

Side note: I support a mass origin claim.

Why?

Ok then!

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I aggre with Mass Origin Claim.

Not so fast.

I just understood what mass origin claim means

You as well.

Tar. You know as well as I do you've had roles that punish origin claims. I want a GOOD REASON for how an origin claim helps the town and how this outweighs possible negative benefits involving punisher roles?

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What roles?

Probably in MS 3. I know MS 2 punished full role claims.

I don't recall the exact role. But I recall origin claim being a BAD IDEA in one of his games.

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Vote Forbiddanlight

There's only one Beatrice! (Loved what you did in Tar's last mini theme game though ^.^. But as said, there's only one Beatrice! Eva-Beatrice is a bad copy cat who doesn't deserve the name Beatrice )

Screw Eva-Beatrice

I'm ANGE-Beatrice. The best one of all!

Except not really...but yeah.

Also, why did Unright's Xyl vote count and not mine?

We don't lynch the mod D1. >_>

I tend to

1- Its a history of lynching the mod in Tar's games not Xyl's that I know of.

I always vote the mod regardless of mod

2- Xyl is not the modding account. So she was not voting for the mod.

That was an accident

Votes - Votes must be in bold and at the start of a line. Unvoting before voting is neither necessary nor appreciated.

I see, ok then

Vote Yuko Ichihara

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Why? I think it is.

So why didn't you vote me who voted the mod?

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I think its unlikely that there is a punisher for anime claims, with that in mind people shouldn't be claiming their names if they can avoid it.

Why? What leads you to believe this?

Because with you it's a null tell.

Ok then.

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I think its unlikely that there is a punisher for anime claims, with that in mind people shouldn't be claiming their names if they can avoid it.

Why? What leads you to believe this?

Because with you it's a null tell.

Ok then.

I know that there is a deathnote in this game and find it unlikely that there would be 2 punisher mechanics out of 16 people, even in a bastard setup.

Elaborate. Please.

And explain what you know about the deathnote ability in this iteration.

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I think its unlikely that there is a punisher for anime claims, with that in mind people shouldn't be claiming their names if they can avoid it.

Why? What leads you to believe this?

Because with you it's a null tell.

Ok then.

I know that there is a deathnote in this game and find it unlikely that there would be 2 punisher mechanics out of 16 people, even in a bastard setup.

Elaborate. Please.

And explain what you know about the deathnote ability in this iteration.

I've said enough I think.

If you know about a punisher role it would be logical to explain what you know, as to prevent town from being caught in it. Now, I see the merit in not telling and hoping scum fall for it, but for all we know it is a scum ability itself, and one that will only bite town in the ass. It's more likely to be scum directed IMO, actually.

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I don't see any reason to pressure chamber into fullclaiming at this stage. I assume death notes work by allowing you to kill someone if you know their character name?

This, for now.

FL, I don't know what to say of your avatar ._. You've used red for Batler, while the colour he uses is blue.

Battler had the perfect objection pose. It had to be done.

I prefer the witch side myself

Eva Beatrice fails though . You know why if you watched Episode 3

(Also, Ange-Beatrice should first show some powers before I'll judge her. But Beatrice was just awesome during the third game that I doubt she'll be better than her.)

Have you read episode 4 yet?

So for example, if your character name is Beatrice, you're from Umineko no naku koro ni. So that player would claim that he's from Umineko.

Or fakeclaim from it, kekekekekeke

(Sorry, I'm really proud of that one)

Likely aren't exclusively pro-town, but I doubt they are mafia. Based on what I know likely town with an awc.

Interesting...not sure I like it.

Exactly? No. Am I sure that it works off names? yes.

This is also odd, I think.

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tl;dr Tar has the death note.

Good job.

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tl;dr Tar has the death note.

Good job.

That's the problem - my ability ISN'T a Death Note. It's actually closer to role name cop.

There might be a second role name-dependent ability floating around.

It's not at all similar to the Mystic Eyes in TrADTiMM...is it?

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I'm not sure I like what you are claiming, Tar. For the time being I'm sitting.

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FL

I prefer the witch side as well. Most of the parents aren't that important, and when they are, it's mostly for one game only. As for the children, half of them are just worrying about their love lifes.
Though there are a few humans who I like. Won't name them all, but I do want to mention Kyrie of those. Mostly because she hasn't been important at all, yet she's proven how dangerous she can be to those who she has to face (See Game 3 in the anime serie and the meeting of the brothers and sisters in the first episode of Game 4 in the anime serie for examples)

As stated before, Eva-Beatrice was a huge disappointment. I was looking forward to a new witch, especially as Lambdadelta and Lady Bernkastel haven't done much, if not anything. In the end, she just seemed to me as a big cry baby who wanted attention.
Last is Ange, who hasn't have a big part yet in the anime (She just appeared), so I'm waiting for her to show what she can do. I haven't read the manga.

Also, have you listened to the songs from the game?

I've played the visual novel. So I know how awesome Ange is. The anime, is, quite frankly, a TERRIBLE representation of everyone's awesome. Even though the visual novel uses still pictures, Beatrice vs. Virigilia was about 10 million times more awesome.

Rudolph and Kyrie are probably the only USEFUL parents in the entire series. They just...exude epic, especially in the VN when they fight those two sisters. They cut out a lot from that fight in the anime. And of course, I have listened to all the music from the game. dreamenddischarger is one of the most awesome technoish pieces I have heard for a long time. activepain is a nice vocal piece to get you going as well .

At any rate, this discussion is kinda a derail from the game. I implore you to find the visual novel, you only need to download episode 4 if you are a horrible pirate like I am. There are tutorials online for getting the english patch to work and such.

At any rate, the neighbor discussion is an interesting one. Not sure I agree with Tar on Unright (the fallacy with the for/against statement feels like a joke, not a stance), but I can understand the view that neighbors tend to be x/scum. I'm not clearing the other of you even if one of you flips scum. In fact, I'm basically ignoring the neighbor claim and going to assess you on your individual scuminess. Sound fair?

Zazier, please use one post.

I'll be honest. Him separating it out makes it a lot easier to keep track of things, I think. I like it.

Along with you. 12 unnecessary posts in a row is just a parody of your playstyle, and your question to me was fairly obvious and could have been answered if you'd done your own research on Unright.

Is this unusual for Zaz?

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I'd like everyone to answer this please, because I think there's a really good chance they're both scum.

Well, Tar has used two mafia masons before, but...I dunno.

I actually wonder if they are both third party. I know, that's out of left field but I've considered making a three person neighbor group with an SK, Cult Leader, and mafiate before. So I wouldn't rule it out for Xyl.

Or maybe there's a scum and a third party...who knows.

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I don't see Empking's point on Pomegranate. I don't remember anything else that was worth commenting on. Please correct me if I'm wrong.

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Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann

That's what my character is from.

Discuss.

Note, I do NOT advocate further origin claiming, but we need to get this game restarted and I figured that'd do it.

NO ONE ELSE ORIGIN CLAIM WITHOUT GOOD REASON.

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Well, that was fun. I'll do the reading later tonight after I do some errands after eating breakfast and stuff.

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FL, why are you still voting the mod?

I am? What the hell?

Unvote

I'll review Zaz now that I'm back.

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A cursory review shows me that he likes to post one liners remarking on thing pretty often. I'm curious if that is a convenient way to contribute without covering everything that's happened. Add that to the post for everyone he responds to in both games...I think I understand what Tar's getting at.

Vote ZazieR

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FL, that's a weak meta.

I was just reading the game Tar linked and what she's done here. I notice at the very least a superficial similarity and mostly agree with it.

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I'm not saying that there is no merit in the Zaz wagon; his meta makes me slightly suspicious, but to see so many votes so quickly makes me think that scum has jumped on it opportunistically.

I kinda felt the same way but I could see Zaz scum from my cursory half assed glance.

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Could you clarify what you felt the same way about?

Opportunism on the wagon. Specifically dramonic and...Empking.

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FL, what a coincidence your role comes from TTGL, isn't it? Kamina-sama must love you.

I find it hilarious. I think Xyl did it on purpose. I will not state who I actually am.

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V/LA til Monday!

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Ok, I'll read whatever I missed tomorrow. I'm still recovering from 40 hour sleep dep. The curtain looked like a tentacle monster at this point, so you know things were bad.

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Cobalt's reasons for voting him are policy

The Zaz wagon isn't policy lynch if you follow the "asking a whole bunch of questions then disappearing is a supertell" line of argument, which I kind of do. Remember I did say that I've never seen Zaz ask so many (very subjective looking) questions in a row before, and I'm skeptical they would genuinely help her determine alignment. That's ample legitimate scum-tell material (assuming you agree), making it not a policy lynch.

Further, a few of the questions were distracting and unnecessary.

Overall I see Zaz posting a lot of questions, not waiting for the answers, and I also find most of the questions don't lead anywhere scumhunting wise.

I don't understand the Unright wagon.

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The fact that "most of the questions don't lead anywhere scumhunting wise" is another good reason to lynch ZazieR - that's pretty much a TEXTBOOK example of IIoA. Likewise the fact that ZazieR is lurking - the ruleset STRONGLY encourages taking strong anti-lurker measures (I'm increasingly sure that Lynch All Lurkers is optimal play given the ruleset, to the extent that we should consider lynching lurkers above even the scummiest of active players*).

I am voting him you know

The more salient point is that ZazieR failed to focus on ANYONE before flaking - that lack of focus is a HUGE scumtell coming from him (I caught Zazie using ONLY that tell in Inventor Mafia). I've done the total read; ZazieR is either 1) active all game, focusing very strongly on players who he thinks are scum; 2) a lurker for the entirety of the game; or 3) scum. There is almost NO middle ground here (especially when spamming gets involved).

I see :S.

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Yeah, yeah.. A self-preservation vote. But it's also a good anti-lurker vote.. Zazie hasn't posted here since Nov 8th yet he's posted elsewhere on the site. He's abandoned the game whereas I'm still here posting and willing to play.

This does not make me feel better.

"Hey guys, I'm obviously voting to save my own ass...but let me add a thin veil of justification to it so I don't get curbstomped!"

Feels a little phony IMO.