Mad World: Time Travel Mafia (Game Over)

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Empking

because I would have /out-ed if I saw him join.

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Also, it makes me sad that I'm not on any of your lists *tear*

up side?. you are wrong, scum radar got a ping here.

unvote, vote gandalf

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dog, why is that scummy? And digi, as far as I'm aware, wagons are what get us out of the RVS. And the only info we have at that stage is the RVS. Every vote at that stage is a joke, but we have to stop joking around at some point, and the only "evidence" we have is random votes. And it worked, didn't it? We're now out of the RVS, we're genuinely examining posts now.

just a vibe baby, just a vibe.

played a bunch of these games, and if I had (gun to head) to put money on someone being scum, based on the this stage in the game, its you bud.

I dont believe for a second the "i-dont-care-if-I-am-on-a-scum-list" attitude, your "I am sad that I am not on your list" post suggests.

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karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

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also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

if we are going to wagon, this should be the first.

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"heat" =hear.....proofreading for the win.

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karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

I don't say you're wrong, because I don't see the point. If you had some evidence, then we could debate. But with what you have, there's no point in me saying anything. More overconfidence for no reason. Keep this up and I might have to switch my vote.

now you are threatening me? Why OMGUS vote me? What have I done that you deem scummy other than vote you on a vibe (at first)

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

why exactly are you getting angry?
I find it fishy if you get angry at someone so fast, especially since if he is scum you should be happy if he plays badly, no?...

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

what of the stuff gandalf said do you think is an insult?

noting this unwarranted defense.

you thinks caps always mean angry? I wanted it to stand out. Believe me, when I get angry you will know…I got this title for a reason.

But lets play make believe real fast….what if I was angry?...What does that mean to you? Does it make me scummy? Why?

also you dont see an insult in this?

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. .

Really you don’t see an insult here? Also noted.

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holy shit, when he said "razorback" I thought he meant an aggressive gorilla not a person....ok that explains why everyone is talking about "razorback" (was confused)....who I dont think I know...anyway, need to reread shit now that I realized razorback is a person and not a gorilla...god, I am fucking slow.

at any rate, probably going to be busy until Tuesday....

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also

unvote

until then.

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hey dumbass (tasky), I unvoted because I am busy this weekend and have only skimmed the thread....

would you rather I keep my vote on when I am only skimming and havent read thoroughly?

would you like links to games that I have done that (unvoted when I was going to be busy longer than 48-72 hours)before in the past, or are you just acting like you care?

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also, the reason I voted him had nothing to do with the razorback comment.

fucking newbies.

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oh yeah, in case you were wondering..I am angry now.

also dont avoid answering this question twice

But lets play make believe real fast….what if I was angry?...What does that mean to you? Does it make me scummy? Why?

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ugh, sorry for the quad post, it looks like he already answered it...

like I said, only skimming.

will address it, the rest of the thread, and vote when it isnt a holiday weekend.

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bullshit meter just went off...I thought so.

Hey, guys, CKD is town. Honestly. I've played with him enough to know.

could you share your profound knowledge with us, master? how can you be so sure he is town?
if there is some meta you are relying on, please post links...

I actually don't care what you did in other games...

so you were just asking sera, to look like you were scum hutning then?


ok, I am officially gone until Monday night/tuesday.

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Ok back, asked the mod to let you guys know I was going to be gone until Monday, but he didn’t…at any rate, I got back early and updating.
Well, I was right about Gandalf (well mostly a 3rd party isn’t town), interested in Tasky thoughts about me now that Gandalf didn’t flip town.

For the overreaction/scummy response to CKDs accusation, the statement which you "wished to be on one of Anon's lists", the OMGUS after I voted you, and setting up a premature lynch. You good sir are scummy by far.

VOTE: Gandalf5166

wow... this looks scummy... you just voted a dead person...
that means you didn't read the night actions results, so either you are not interested (that's anti-town) or you already know (and you are scum)

so, VOTE: SharkFinn

really? That is what that means? You think scum submitted a kill and didn’t bother to check to see what they might or might not of hit? This is bad reasoning. Now I just need to figure out if you are scum or just so closed minded you cant seem to think of any other reasons someone might not have been reading the thread.

Vote: Sharkfinn

Yeaaaah...voting for dead people....yeeeeah...

same question, what is scummy about it. You are just as experienced as I and I am pretty sure you have seen townies not read a game. (I mean empking is in this game for fuck's sake) Actually, who is more likely to read a game more, scum or townies?

Hmmm, not seeing a case against RC and the wagon on Shark is lame.

I was right yesterday..and my spidey sense is tingling again

Vote tasky.

Dear tasky, please tell me who you think is scum and why?...feel free to OMGUS vote if you need to, hope you have better reasoning than all of your votes thus far in the game. or maybe you just dont care about good reasoning.

[curiouskarmadog]

RC, you can keep poking fun that might not like the fact that you are voting and keep not reading the thread ( I mean I get being busy), but how long is too long in your opinion to keep doing that?

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RC, you can keep poking fun that might not like the fact that you are voting and keep not reading the thread ( I mean I get being busy), but how long is too long in your opinion to keep doing that?

fucking proofreading.

it is suppose to read.

....you can keep poking fun AT THOSE that might not....

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RC wagon is a bad one. Emp's vote is an example of that. Not that I expect you to answer this...

Emp, you think we should lynch RC to improve him as a player, but nothing to do with his game? I have seen you lynched because of your crappy play, it hasnt helped you in the least, why do you feel it will help RC?

Off the game question (but not really), what is RC doing wrong in your opinion as a player? Why would lynching do him good?

Kage, you sure gandalf flipped town?

also, other than being "angry and insulting" any other reads from me, I was confused by your post.

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there is no point in talking about an ongoing game..in the end it will just get everyone mod killed.

Emp, you want quotes in reference to what?

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(tap tap tap) this thing on?

RC, is a bad wagon..

Tasky is a better one.

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RC "ckd 124: you seem rather jumpy about a vote on you, good sir. and not even a vote, just a threat of a vote. noted."

thats what you are noting, then? Not the fact he was threatening to vote me if I didnt back off of him? You also dont touch on the fact I wanted him to defend his threat ie explain why I was scummy. It also should be noted that my scum vibe was on about him....well at least my not-town vibe.

"And for what it's worth: Even though TL flipped town, she deserved to die. (She's probably in the dead players quicktopic at this very moment shaking her fist and screaming "I AM NOT FEMALE!" rofl)"

other than the miller explain, why in your words was TL scummy?

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going to be busy until Monday, just posting to avoid a prod.

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about a page or 3 behind, will post when I can...given the skimming I have done though, going to have to

unvote....

still pretty sure, tasky is scum, but dont want to let the vote stay until I get caught up.

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Ok, got some time, updating this game
Think I am updating for about page 14, not too much has happened since then.
Still waiting on this.

RC "ckd 124: you seem rather jumpy about a vote on you, good sir. and not even a vote, just a threat of a vote. noted."

thats what you are noting, then? Not the fact he was threatening to vote me if I didnt back off of him? You also dont touch on the fact I wanted him to defend his threat ie explain why I was scummy. It also should be noted that my scum vibe was on about him....well at least my not-town vibe.

"And for what it's worth: Even though TL flipped town, she deserved to die. (She's probably in the dead players quicktopic at this very moment shaking her fist and screaming "I AM NOT FEMALE!" rofl)"

other than the miller explain, why in your words was TL scummy?

and

ah crap i think i accidentally deleted the other half of my post.

sh11111111111111t

also I am curious, when did the “other half” of the post get deleted (when did you realize) ? When did you type it(right before, days earlier)? Would like some details on this please. Why answer the why later.

i will contribute as i get time. i haven't had much time to devote to this game lately, i have a bunch of others too.

thats not our fault nor is it an excuse.

V/LA my wife is going into labor. It might be a few days.

ummm, just a heads up, my wife is about to pop as well (08/18), so if I disappear during this time, that is why...will give a heads up if I can...heard the hospital has wifi. Congrats RC, but I still want the above answered.

Ok, I have caught up..not a lot has happen

Still got a bug in my joint about tasky, but beginning to understand the wagon on RC.

Vote tasky

, got a nose of these things.

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Honestly my gut still says RC is scum. His active lurking is at the very least anti-town and I really don't find the cases on SK and Tasky that strong. I'm sorry I don't have much to add about this, but I've got nothing substantial to add that wouldn't be parroting others

what do you think my case is against tasky?

what is your case against RC?

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RC, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THIS?

Ok, got some time, updating this game
Think I am updating for about page 14, not too much has happened since then.
Still waiting on this.

RC "ckd 124: you seem rather jumpy about a vote on you, good sir. and not even a vote, just a threat of a vote. noted."

thats what you are noting, then? Not the fact he was threatening to vote me if I didnt back off of him? You also dont touch on the fact I wanted him to defend his threat ie explain why I was scummy. It also should be noted that my scum vibe was on about him....well at least my not-town vibe.

"And for what it's worth: Even though TL flipped town, she deserved to die. (She's probably in the dead players quicktopic at this very moment shaking her fist and screaming "I AM NOT FEMALE!" rofl)"

other than the miller explain, why in your words was TL scummy?

and

ah crap i think i accidentally deleted the other half of my post.

sh11111111111111t

also I am curious, when did the “other half” of the post get deleted (when did you realize) ? When did you type it(right before, days earlier)? Would like some details on this please. Why answer the why later.

i will contribute as i get time. i haven't had much time to devote to this game lately, i have a bunch of others too.

thats not our fault nor is it an excuse.

V/LA my wife is going into labor. It might be a few days.

ummm, just a heads up, my wife is about to pop as well (08/18), so if I disappear during this time, that is why...will give a heads up if I can...heard the hospital has wifi. Congrats RC, but I still want the above answered.

Ok, I have caught up..not a lot has happen

Still got a bug in my joint about tasky, but beginning to understand the wagon on RC.

Vote tasky

, got a nose of these things.

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also just checked with the mod, if we dont get the majority, it will be an no lynch.

I would much rather lynch Tasky, but am starting to get bad vibes for RC refusing to answer or even acknowledge my questions.

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also, if I get the time, I will explain my case (which I havent brought up thoroughly yet), but when people say" they didnt like the case " I was curious what case they were talking about since I havent put one out there yet.

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Hi ckd how was your weekend? rofl wait its the middle of the week.

so what is pro-town about not answering questions? Maybe you want to be lynched and then get to say everybody was wrong? thats mature....why dont you just ask for a replacement?

6.) Player Rules

-Site Rules Apply

-Play to win

-I do not have a problem with cursing but if any of the players object, you should stop.
-This is the game, don't talk about it anywhere else until over.
-Don't quote or pretend to quote me.

do you feel like you are doing the bolded?


I dont think RC is scum....just a waste.

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just did a quick meta on RC, check out his scum games, he is much more active and gives opinions....not this bullshit. If I had to guess, he has a vanilla (town) role, and he is just bored with it...doesnt care, because he is in so many games....a waste...please just replace out.

got to work on the nursery tonight, but will be putting together my "why I think tasky is scum" post asap.

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OK reasons that my gut tells me that Tasky is scum.
1.) this,

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

why exactly are you getting angry?
I find it fishy if you get angry at someone so fast, especially since if he is scum you should be happy if he plays badly, no?...

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

what of the stuff gandalf said do you think is an insult?

noting this unwarranted defense.

you thinks caps always mean angry? I wanted it to stand out. Believe me, when I get angry you will know…I got this title for a reason.

But lets play make believe real fast….what if I was angry?...What does that mean to you? Does it make me scummy? Why?

also you dont see an insult in this?

anger is quite a strong emotion to have in a game of mafia... is it something personal I don't know about? because if it's not, it usually is a sign that you have no arguments left... whether that is scummy I cannot judge yet, but it definitely is bad for scumhunting, so you should stop

this was complete and utter bullshit. This was day 1 and he is pulling this out of his ass just to put some heat on me. No where in my statement (that you perceived was angry) did it indicate that I had “no arguments lefts”. His defense of his attack (being angry could = scummy) doesn’t fit what actually happened and made no since in context. As it stands, it WAS good scum hunting. I picked up on something and followed my nose. Much like I am doing here.

2.) more weak attacks.

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

holy shit, when he said "razorback" I thought he meant an aggressive gorilla not a person....ok that explains why everyone is talking about "razorback" (was confused)....who I dont think I know...anyway, need to reread shit now that I realized razorback is a person and not a gorilla...god, I am fucking slow.

also

unvote

until then.

since you unvoted after razorback was explained to be a person and not a "gorilla", and you were so sure before that you even crowned yourself "mafia catcher", that means your whole case against gandalf was built only on him calling you razorback...
now, explain how that can be a reasonable attack (even if razorback was an aggressive gorilla)!
and BTW: please tell me the association that brought you from "razorback" to "aggressive gorilla"
I'm really going to
UNVOTE: ReaperCharlie
VOTE: curiouskarmadog

You push that I was worth a vote because I unvote, once I explained why I unvoted, it didn’t matter to you. I even offered you games where I unvote when I leave a game for an extended amount of time, but you didn’t want to see it…ie, you didn’t really care or want to see if my action was scummy or not.

3.) (or 2.5)
You want to attempt like you are scum hunting when you actually are not.

bullshit meter just went off...I thought so.

Hey, guys, CKD is town. Honestly. I've played with him enough to know.

could you share your profound knowledge with us, master? how can you be so sure he is town?
if there is some meta you are relying on, please post links...

I actually don't care what you did in other games...

so you were just asking sera, to look like you were scum hutning then?

later you say.

[ok, let me restate it then: I don't care what somebody (or you) says that you have done in other games as long as I don't get evidence...
everybody can say "I always play like this, this is not a scumtell"... but until I get some evidence (in form of concrete quotes) for that, it's really a worthless argument...

This defence/backtrack makes absolutely NO SENSE. You asked Sera for links, but when I offer them to you (evidence) you said you didn’t want them. You weren’t interested in seeing any “evidence” that I normally do that (unvote when leaving) because it would prove you wrong and you would have to unvote. You are not really interested in scum hunting.

4.) the longing vote

let's assume TheLonging really was miller, we would not have any way to find out his alignment other than lynching him...
knowing his alignment however would help us more than knowing anyone else's alignment since he is the player with the greatest number of interactions so far.
best case scenario we get scum...
worst case scenario we lynch a miller...
lynching someone else would just be unnecessarily risking to lynch a power-role... even lynching a townie would be worse...
and there is nobody else who is scummy enough to justify that risk...

so UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog
VOTE: TheLonging

Not going to attack the vote itself. For in my book lynching a claimed miller will have to happen at one point. And, I have seen too many scum bags claim miller (one actually winning). What I don’t like here is the bullshit reasoning to unvote to justify voting thelonging. He is basically saying, he doesn’t care if longing is town, he has to die (ok, fine), but then he fluffs it up with crap about “unnecessarily risking a power role”, “most interactions”, and this gem about “no one else who is scummy enough to justify”

Now, looking back at his posts (before this one) he doesn’t mention he felt thelonging was scummy at all(if I am missing please point out, and I will retract this point). His only interaction with him was questioning him about his opinion of me. That’s it. So tasky wanted everyone to believe that I was scummy for my vote/unvotes of Gandalf, then out of no where tasky wants us to believe that he feel thelonging is the most scummy…this is opportunistic. Again, I don’t care that he wanted to lynch the claimed miller, but his provided reasoning felt guilt laden and forced.

5.) then finally today, the shit factory starts in overdrive.

For the overreaction/scummy response to CKDs accusation, the statement which you "wished to be on one of Anon's lists", the OMGUS after I voted you, and setting up a premature lynch. You good sir are scummy by far.

VOTE: Gandalf5166

wow... this looks scummy... you just voted a dead person...
that means you didn't read the night actions results, so either you are not interested (that's anti-town) or you already know (and you are scum)

so, VOTE: SharkFinn

6.) his lack of attack on me today.

Now yesterday he was so hot to trot that I was scum. What happened last night that changed his mind? Why is RC (post 275) the one that gets the vote over me? I think he got coached, that his attack of me was going no where and was making him look bad. Why am I not worth a vote? You pushed so hard yesterday...looks like he is throwing shit against the wall and hoping something sticks. It also doesn’t surprise me that he votes the person who is getting the most attention besides himself at the start of Day 2.

Scum bag…got you

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well shit, just read that he is being replaced...well, the new guy wont be able to defend, but the fact still remains that tasky was scummy...

lynchmepls, I think you are scum..thoughts?

you got 4 days till deadline so I am REALLY interested on who you think is scum and why.

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also, just asked the mod, if we dont reach a majority there is no lynch...

more lynchmepls votes, please.

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callmeliam, what about tasky posts makes you think he is town?..has he done anything in particular?

[curiouskarmadog]

callmeliam, what about tasky posts makes you think he is town?..has he done anything in particular?

I'm not saying I certainly think he's town. My main issue with him was his attacks on you on D1 when I thought you were unscummy, but since he's stopped tunnelling you (and despite his ridiculous gandalf vote) I haven't found him massively scummy. Plus I'd rather not lynch him before he's replaced.

so you are ok with his reasoning for thelonging vote, the fact that he aggresively attacked me as scum yesterday to not even mentioning me today, AND his early vote/attack today based on bullshit reasoning? All of that you are completely cool with?

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also I am confused.

callmeliam, what about tasky posts makes you think he is town?..has he done anything in particular?

I'm not saying I certainly think he's town. My main issue with him was his attacks on you on D1 when I thought you were unscummy, but since he's stopped tunnelling you (and despite his ridiculous gandalf vote) I haven't found him massively scummy. Plus I'd rather not lynch him before he's replaced.

*The case against Tasky isn't a bad one, and if RC isn't going to happen then he seems like a reasonable choice. A lot of ckd's problem with him seems to stem from his frequent butting heads with him D1, but I saw this as town vs town then. Now that Tasky has stopped, I'm inclined to be more suspicious about it.

which is it "My main issue with him was his attacks on you on D1 when I thought you were unscummy" or "but I saw this as town vs town then"

was he scummy because of his attacks of me, or did you see us as town vs. town?

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nothing about this opinion post has changed my mind.

same question I asked Tasky, why is voting dead players scummy in your view.

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wait, what is the catch on rhinox?

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ok, I dont see a "catch", just reasons you think he is scum...I agree with you that shark and RC are very bad lynches today....

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where does your neutral gropu end?

What is the benefit of asking for an entire list, let alone being so specific? Are you trying to make sure you don't have any suspicion on you so you can fly under the radar?.

this is a silly statement

I still dont see the "catch" on Rhinox

and RC is still fucking useless.

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if you decided to claim at -2, you need to finish the claim, if you are a town power role, and are close to dying anyway, why not claim fully, it might by you some time....there is no reason not to claim (unless you are a supersaint i guess)...

I still dont buy this wagon....

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Will claim that I am Professor X, a non-time traveler, with an ability I wish to not share at this time. I am not a VT, but I refuse to claim further.

these quotes go with above.

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unvote, vote Rhinox

I dont think Shark is a good lynch today, and his wagon is chalked full of people (3) that I am not digging at the moment, (1 in particular), I am on the fence about Rhino, but if I had to choice between Rhino and shark today, Rhino should go...also the fact that he has posted all over sight, since his last post here, but is avoiding this one is telling.

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unvote, vote rhinox

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was your wall of text designed to be hard to reply to? anyway.

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also the fact that he has posted all over sight, since his last post here, but is avoiding this one is telling.

This is a lie.

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how is this a lie? Are you saying that after your post here on the 22nd you didnt make 10 other posts on site, (though it should be noted that 4 of those post did occur on the 22nd, after the one he made here, just saw that)

anyway, if I am a liar like you are suggesting, how does this statement make since?

Anon and CKD are my strongest town reads.

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Interesting thought, I think I have played with Anon 2-3 times, and I have never agreed with him more in a game…not sure what that means, but I like posts, 555, 556 (though I am not certain Robb is town), 557, 559, especially the line:

You are hunting for apparent scumminess while not looking for real motives.

Which was directed at lynchme

Claim:

Archaeologist Professor Edward A. Johnston, a Time Traveler. I'm basically a flavor investigator. I know who is Clare, the Time Traveler's Wife. I can say who that player is and they can confirm I'm not lying, or I can keep that information secret for now... up to you guys what you want me to do.

a Flavor cop?....ok, so, lets say this isnt a "safe" claim and he is telling a truth about his role, this speaks nothing of alignment. personally, I dont believe the claim.

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a Flavor cop?....ok, so, lets say this isnt a "safe" claim and he is telling a truth about his role, this speaks nothing of alignment. personally, I dont believe the claim.

Is it that you think I'm lying about my role, or that you think my role is what I say it is but you think I'm still mafia?

does it matter? I dont believe the claim, but lets say you were telling the truth(about your role) or I believed the claim (role), this claim does change anything, meaning there is really no way to prove that it is a town role.

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RC, you are putting yourself in a bad light.

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also, about who you targetted, do you know if you targetted them to get the info?...meaning, we also have a claimed redirector.

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given this claim a second thought now I sit here and think it out..

that being said, if I have to choose between shark and rhino, I would rather go with rhino....

I would like to lyncn lynchmeplease instead of either....anyway, we can get that wagon started?

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unvote, vote lynchmepls

please start this wagon again.

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I would like to know who Rhino claims he targetted. (before I consider chaing the vote)

[curiouskarmadog]

"changing"

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also, Kage, why do you have a problem lynching a claimed PR this early? DO you feel that his claimed role is useful (not claimed)?

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digi, I want to make sure I got this right.

Rhino says "My result said Alpha targetted Mafuyu."

Mafuyu entered the game post 352

Rhino entered the game in 342, I assume that he got the above "quote" when he entered the game...so there is no way that he got the quote because Mafuyu was not in the game yet..

am I understanding, your line of thinking?

unvote.

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shark what did you do last night?

also, most likely my vote will return to lynchmepls, but need to reread a bit.

thinking my opinion may have changed about Digi (at least in regards to him being mafia).

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also I am super busy right now, and have 2 other games that need updating.

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just skimming, how is digi scummy?...he made the actual catch about rhino at the end of the day yesterday.

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sharkfin, I would like a full claim today please....there is NO REASON why you shouldnt. especially if you targetted LMP and are now voting him. The only reason I can think that you would not fully claim at this point is that you are afraid of being called out as a liar at one point.

if you are telling the truth, scum already know you are a "redirector"

[curiouskarmadog]

/game prod

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umm, skimming at the moment, behind on two games.

Robb's "case" seem..well to not make any since almost like he just read me in ISO without checking the context..

first of all gandolf was not pro town. (pretty sure he was a third party, so I was right about him), still scummy?

I still think tasky/lps is scummy (btw, before you just voted me your fucking vote was on him)..also, when the Rhino(Scum) vote went down, your vote was on tasky/lps, so please explain how that is scummy?

in reference to your (4), what was the "catch" people were talking about? I didnt see it, AND NO ONE (to include yourself) explained it to me....I STILL dont see it...later on in the game digi caught a catch that I thought was worth noting and a vote (though the game ended before I could return the vote).

"5. he wants shark to fully role claim and still says rhinox is not a good lynch, he also makes sure he says RC is useless and earlier in the thread says he is probably a towie based on meta from other games. he eventually caves and votes rhinox but gives no reason or any sort of reaction for why the switch"

first of all, please quote where I said "rhino is not a good lynch"....also, do you really want to push that I didnt give ANY reason for my rhino vote?

"6. He and Rhiox get into an argument of sorts (seems fake) and he makes sure he throws in a quote from rhinox, where rhinox said ckd and anon are his strongest town reads"

Really I just threw in that quote for no reason?...Rhino called me a liar in his post, then turned around and said I was the most town...I thought it was bullshit and called him on it, quite scummy of you to say it happened otherwise.

7.) do you know something I dont Robb?...why is lynching LPS bad?

8.) and what is scummy asking for a full role claim from someone you was so scummy yesterday that had to claim?

anyway, I got to catch up before I vote, my gut says that robb is probably scum trying to throw anything against the wall today to see who will buy what....AND the fact he keeps acting like lynching tasky/lps gives me the vibe that he knows more than everyone else.

that being said, he could be VI, the fact he didnt know gandolf was NOT TOWN, says he doesnt really have a grasp on the game...what I need to see is if he is taking me out of context on purpose, read me in ISO and didnt see what actually happened, or if he really believes what he is saying.

[curiouskarmadog]

Secondly, I never thought that gandalf was town. He died as a survivor which is never pro-town. Do like #4 for sure, so I'm rethinking my CKD position.

cool, hey, can you tell me what was the "catch" at that part of the game? Not one person did when I asked for it.

I will even give you break down.

468

^ I think its a scale.

unvote, vote Rhinox

Good catch.

469

wait, what is the catch on rhinox?

470

ckd, my posts, read them.

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ok, I dont see a "catch", just reasons you think he is scum...I agree with you that shark and RC are very bad lynches today....

there was no "catch"..just an opinion post from Anon....the only actual rhino catch that day was from Digi, sometime later...so can you please explain to me Shark and/or Robb what the "catch" was that Budja(Scum) was talking about?




also shark, tasky went at you pretty hard Day 2 for you voting a dead person, I called him on his bullshit case and he completely backed off...and began attacking someone else.

who was scummy in that exchange? curious about your stance there.

[curiouskarmadog]

one last thing.

I love love love when people say this.

2. seems to overreact a bit when gandalf pushes back

explain to me a.) what was the overreaction.

and .b) how is overreaction scummy.

[curiouskarmadog]

ugh, sorry for quad post.

Shark, is not reading the game scummy in your view?

Also, it is obvious that Robb is not reading the game, but he is in your town list, please explain.

[curiouskarmadog]

you didnt even answer the question (or really 90% of my questions)...lets say in pretend world I WAS overreacting...explain to me why YOU think overreacting is scummy...I constnatly find scum who use this as an excuse to vote someone, when I call them on it, like you, they avoid answering the question because they knew it was bullshit.

my knee jerk reaction right now is to vote you, but I have a feeling you are the VI in this game. (also I need to reread a bit)

anyway, answer my questions, "I might be incorrect, but that is how I feel" is not an answer. I am asking you to go back and explain yourself, did you just read me in ISO and not really dig to see what my posts were about? If you are really trying to scum hunt, why do you feel this is the best way to do it?

now answer my questions....

[curiouskarmadog]

I will even help you, bolded is things I want you to answer or address.

umm, skimming at the moment, behind on two games.

Robb's "case" seem..well to not make any since almost like he just read me in ISO without checking the context..

first of all gandolf was not pro town. (pretty sure he was a third party, so I was right about him), still scummy?

I still think tasky/lps is scummy (btw, before you just voted me your fucking vote was on him)..also, when the Rhino(Scum) vote went down, your vote was on tasky/lps, so please explain how that is scummy?

in reference to your (4), what was the "catch" people were talking about? I didnt see it, AND NO ONE (to include yourself) explained it to me....I STILL dont see it...later on in the game digi caught a catch that I thought was worth noting and a vote (though the game ended before I could return the vote).

What was the "catch" here that makes me so scummy for missing?

"5. he wants shark to fully role claim and still says rhinox is not a good lynch, he also makes sure he says RC is useless and earlier in the thread says he is probably a towie based on meta from other games. he eventually caves and votes rhinox but gives no reason or any sort of reaction for why the switch"

first of all,

please quote where I said "rhino is not a good lynch

"....also,

do you really want to push that I didnt give ANY reason for my rhino vote?

"6. He and Rhiox get into an argument of sorts (seems fake) and he makes sure he throws in a quote from rhinox, where rhinox said ckd and anon are his strongest town reads"

Really I just threw in that quote for no reason?...

Rhino called me a liar in his post, then turned around and said I was the most town...I thought it was bullshit and called him on it,

quite scummy of you to say it happened otherwise.

7.)

do you know something I dont Robb?...why is lynching LPS bad?

8.)

and what is scummy about asking for a full role claim from someone who was so scummy yesterday that had to claim?

anyway, I got to catch up before I vote, my gut says that robb is probably scum trying to throw anything against the wall today to see who will buy what....AND the fact he keeps acting like lynching tasky/lps gives me the vibe that he knows more than everyone else.

that being said, he could be VI, the fact he didnt know gandolf was NOT TOWN, says he doesnt really have a grasp on the game...what I need to see is if he is taking me out of context on purpose, read me in ISO and didnt see what actually happened, or if he really believes what he is saying.

[curiouskarmadog]

also so that I understand, you think the below post was an overreaction???? what part of this post screams overreaction....lets also keep in mind this was an non-town role attack me...

so i was completely right here, when I got bad vibes from him.

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. You act overly confident in a vote for no reason other than a "vibe".

you know what is really funny (beside your weak attempt at an insult)?

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

Got ya...and in 4 pages too. (feel free to nominate me on mafia catcher after the game is done).

I don't say you're wrong, because I don't see the point. If you had some evidence, then we could debate. But with what you have, there's no point in me saying anything. More overconfidence for no reason. Keep this up and I might have to switch my vote.

now you are threatening me? Why OMGUS vote me? What have I done that you deem scummy other than vote you on a vibe (at first)

NO WHERE IN THIS POST DO YOU SAY I AM WRONG?

why exactly are you getting angry?
I find it fishy if you get angry at someone so fast, especially since if he is scum you should be happy if he plays badly, no?...

also i note you go right to the insult as soon as you get a slightest bit of hear.

what of the stuff gandalf said do you think is an insult?

noting this unwarranted defense.

you thinks caps always mean angry? I wanted it to stand out. Believe me, when I get angry you will know…I got this title for a reason.

But lets play make believe real fast….what if I was angry?...What does that mean to you? Does it make me scummy? Why?

also you dont see an insult in this?

karma, you remind me of razorback, only with slightly better grammar. .

Really you don’t see an insult here? Also noted.

and again, what is scummy about overreaction.

[curiouskarmadog]

will reponse to the bulk with time, most of your points against me you admit were wrong, but you still keep the vote on me..

can you please link a game (just one out of your "history") that scum overreacted...have you ever seen town overreact?

[curiouskarmadog]

if you really "thought" i was scum, why do you care if I am better?

[curiouskarmadog]

vote Robbnva,

I was debating if he was a VI or just plain scum...then it hit me that he could also be a SI....sooo, you play, vote hops, back tracking, misrepresenting, and cases put together with wishes and hopes scream scum.

[curiouskarmadog]

wow, so a good mafia player who is scum, would want to play exactly like you so he can say "if you really think scum would be this obvious, clearly you are not a very good mafia player"....oh the WIFOM is astounding.

VI=Village Idiot, a town player that really doesnt understand the game and tends to hurt the town.
SI= Scum Idiot

[curiouskarmadog]

Also. Opinions on Empking? Am I crazy here thinking he's scum or is his lack of any quality post and lurking harder than RC just irritating?

he does this in every game (town or scum) and in every game he gets shit for it. I fucking dont have a clue why he even plays mafia and I dont typically join games he is in.....so ask me how I ended up in two (current) with him.... answer..Idk

[curiouskarmadog]

there is only 4 people posting in this game..why?

[curiouskarmadog]

I just cant shake this,

unvote vote Lynchmepls.

[curiouskarmadog]

blah blah blah, thoughts on the game?

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote vote mafuyu

have you expressed any suspicion in LMP this game?

[curiouskarmadog]

Also LMP you can consider my vote still on you...I want your claim today!

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote vote mafuyu

have you expressed any suspicion in LMP this game?

Via post, no. This is also true for a good half of the people alive.

like who?

[curiouskarmadog]

unvote

having trouble believing the claim, I immediately thought this

I think it's pretty convenient that all the people you (or Tasky) have investigated so far have turned out to be dead people.

also, tasky never mentioned he thought gandolph was scummy and actually attacked me with an "overreaction is scummy" post when I was attacking gandolph.


also, you never said anything about you thinking Anon was scummy, so why investigate him?

there is also this....this needs explaining.

708

This thread needs more posting. And Robbnva votes.

719

Bah, screw it. Mind Bend (redirected) LMP to Robbnva. Either player want to claim either success of what happened or counterclaim or claim role/action?

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Bah, screw it. Mind Bend (redirected) LMP to Robbnva. Either player want to claim either success of what happened or counterclaim or claim role/action?

I do not want to claim my role. I can not confirm or deny if I was redirected.

Unvote

Given SF's claim, I need to rethink some things.

ok, so this makes since with LMP's claim....however...

757
so if you "knew" he was town, explain this post.

Robbnva, you seem really wishy washy to me. I can't decide if it is scummy or not though. You seem completely unwilling to stick to any of your convictions. I think you've had a vote on like every player in the game today.

also I need to check something else..hang on.

[curiouskarmadog]

Day 1, Tasky’s last posts of the day.

let's assume TheLonging really was miller, we would not have any way to find out his alignment other than lynching him...
knowing his alignment however would help us more than knowing anyone else's alignment since he is the player with the greatest number of interactions so far.
best case scenario we get scum...
worst case scenario we lynch a miller...
lynching someone else would just be unnecessarily risking to lynch a power-role... even lynching a townie would be worse...
and there is nobody else who is scummy enough to justify that risk...

so UNVOTE: curiouskarmadog
VOTE: TheLonging

PS: I'd still like an answer to my questions from CKD when he returns, just to clear that issue

And the two posts before this posts were heavily attacking me, seems to me that if had the ability to look up alignments, he would have targeted me! He spent the entire Day 1 saying I was scum based on bullshit. I believe that Taskytown would have investigated me.

Day 2, LMP replaces in

* = This post read townie

Anon
*This post gave me warm fuzzies. His following ones on that page didn't change that.
*Good questions although this reads town vs town to me.
Interesting that the vote goes on the person you just added to your scum list, not those that have been on it all of D1 and D2. Bandwagon?
*I second this post.
!Why is pushing Shark scummy? I call BS that Shark not seeing Gandalf's death makes him town. Gandalf's death was triggered, and not the result of targeting. It would be easy for the scum to see there kill flip and not pay attention to the other flip.

He thinks Anon is quite town.

And here again in a different post

TOWN
13. Budja

Karma

12. Anon
18. I doubt it
5. curiouskarmadog
1. Mafuyu

Zang

You do spend 2-3 posts attacking Anontown’s case against Rhinox’s..actually as I am rereading, you defend Rhinox/attack Anon’s case on him in 5-7 posts.

Examples of trying to get Anon off his Rhinox case.

As for your Rhinox case, I'm not sure I really get it. I did spot some suspicious behaviour from Alpha D1, but I'm not sure what exactly Rhinox is supposed to have done. Are you relying on meta of him for your conclusion that he is scum? If so, can you provide links that help prove your case? I'm not opposed to a Rhinox lynch, I have his slot on the scummy side of my scale, but I think Shark or Robbnva are much scummier.

@Anon: Rhinox looks to be contributing more. Your case appears to boil down to Alpha's admittedly scummy play plus Rhinox's lurking. I don't think that is nearly as strong as the cases that can and have been made on SharkFinn, plus the Robbnva seems to be making an effort at the "scummiest play evar" award. I fail to see how you think Rhinox is a better lynch than either of those two.

@Anon: Since I joined the game, do you really think Rhinox's play has been worse than Shark or Robbnva? Considering both Shark and Robbnva seem much scummier to me, and they've gone on to play scummier than him, why would I want to lynch him instead? A claim that makes 0 sense?

After Rhino flipped scum, you should have no reason to suspect Anon enough to investigate him....using your words

SharkFinn and Robbnva are still scummy, in fact, I'm starting to lean more scummy on Robbnva than SharkFinn.

this was your stance ALL DAY YESTERDAY....so you want me to believe that you didnt target either of these people last night?


your claim does not make since given posts from you/tasky and looks awful convenient. Not to mention you spent a lot of time defending Rhino and pushing others to get a competing wagon started, only joining the wagon when it was obvious he was going to be the lynch.

vote lynchmeplease.

[curiouskarmadog]

I know the above is a "wall of words" but please read.

[curiouskarmadog]

ummm, did you read my post?

his claimed investigations makes NO SENSE given what both tasky and LMP were saying the day before their claimed "investigation".

all day yesterday he said you were scum....you believe he chose to not investigated you?...

[curiouskarmadog]

also I remember someone else claiming a cop in this game....he was lynched and was scum too.

[curiouskarmadog]

that is an interesting question Kage....not sure where it is coming from.

I think LMP is lying, I dont have any thoughts about what type of scum he is.

are you saying you believe the claim given his actions/posts during the day before his "claimed" investigation at night?

[curiouskarmadog]

@LMP

"However, when I voted Rhinox, Anon still called me scum. I started thinking that I was really uncomfortable with how well Anon was guiding the town and pushing things, and I wanted to make sure we weren't getting played."

you were uncomfortable with how well Anon was guiding the town?...He fucking guided the town to a scum lynch...again, nothing you are saying makes any sense compared to your actions.

[curiouskarmadog]

no he couldnt, not safely anyway....we had two kills last night, there could be an SK floating around...and who kows what else there is.

you know, now I have said that, if LMP is telling the truth, he would also be a risk to a possible SK. so if he was lying mafia (or a lying sk) if we do have a 3rd party scum, the other party will want them dead.

ok, I will see where this goes for a day.

unvote, vote Mafuyu

[curiouskarmadog]

actually unvote, vote Sharkfin

[curiouskarmadog]

kage, do you take Shark's word for his claim?

[curiouskarmadog]

ugh....

unvote

I need to rethink this fucking game.

[curiouskarmadog]

everything in my being says that LMP is scum...

also, Robb, Shark, mafuyu, and Emp all bother me atm....

[curiouskarmadog]

was driving around thinking about this game, have another thought in LMP favor...

1.) we have a miller....which most of the time means we have a cop
2.) there is no cop counter claim.

[curiouskarmadog]

still rereading.

[curiouskarmadog]

here is where I am right now,

I am leaning toward a Robb, Emp, May, Shark vote...

after the reread, shark is the leader....but.

there have been no town power role flips...mafia has flipped a doctor and a role cop....we have had a miller and a pair of lovers flip...both of these roles in my opinion, hurt the town...so there has to be some sort of cluster of awesome power roles to flip....there has been a mason flip, so there might be 1-2 more of those out there that can hopefully confirm themselves.

so I am afraid to vote shark, because the redirector might actually be a town PR.

I hope that the budja kill was a fucking vig and not an SK....because it feels like everything is stacked up against town.

Shark can you please repost what your night choice was for Day 1.

[curiouskarmadog]

nevermind, i found it.

I was awaiting the time before the hammer falls to fully claim. I hate to reveal this, but I guess I have no choice now.

Ability: Mindbend

It's a redirector, except I cant pick the same target twice.

I mindbended gandalf to Zang (at the time I felt that Zang was a deadweight town, so if Zang died and gandalf lived, I knew that gandalf was scum. In my mind at the time, Zang would not be the target of scum (assuming he as town)).

Rhinox has been deadweight as much as Alpha was before.

[curiouskarmadog]

Wilson facepalms at ckd after pro town cop cleared robbnva, he is still your target

I have two reactions to that

1.) he didnt clear shit, you have to believe shark AND LMP to believe that..

2.) I guess you have a point

[curiouskarmadog]

so if you want to take all the claims at face value..

LMP and Robb are in the clear?

[curiouskarmadog]

if LMP is a cop, I cant see how snaity would be an issue..that is just too much shit against town.

[curiouskarmadog]

fine,

vote Empking,

the only other current game I have with Emp I have been reminded why one cant say "emp is like that in every game".

[curiouskarmadog]

4. whoever is not answering my questions (i.e. lynchmepls) is WRONG.

you think that is scummy?

[curiouskarmadog]

RC, WHY ARE YOU IGNORING THIS?

Ok, got some time, updating this game
Think I am updating for about page 14, not too much has happened since then.
Still waiting on this.

RC "ckd 124: you seem rather jumpy about a vote on you, good sir. and not even a vote, just a threat of a vote. noted."

thats what you are noting, then? Not the fact he was threatening to vote me if I didnt back off of him? You also dont touch on the fact I wanted him to defend his threat ie explain why I was scummy. It also should be noted that my scum vibe was on about him....well at least my not-town vibe.

"And for what it's worth: Even though TL flipped town, she deserved to die. (She's probably in the dead players quicktopic at this very moment shaking her fist and screaming "I AM NOT FEMALE!" rofl)"

other than the miller explain, why in your words was TL scummy?

and

ah crap i think i accidentally deleted the other half of my post.

sh11111111111111t

also I am curious, when did the “other half” of the post get deleted (when did you realize) ? When did you type it(right before, days earlier)? Would like some details on this please. Why answer the why later.

i will contribute as i get time. i haven't had much time to devote to this game lately, i have a bunch of others too.

thats not our fault nor is it an excuse.

V/LA my wife is going into labor. It might be a few days.

ummm, just a heads up, my wife is about to pop as well (08/18), so if I disappear during this time, that is why...will give a heads up if I can...heard the hospital has wifi. Congrats RC, but I still want the above answered.

Ok, I have caught up..not a lot has happen

Still got a bug in my joint about tasky, but beginning to understand the wagon on RC.

Vote tasky

, got a nose of these things.

also just checked with the mod, if we dont get the majority, it will be an no lynch.

I would much rather lynch Tasky, but am starting to get bad vibes for RC refusing to answer or even acknowledge my questions.

Hi ckd how was your weekend? rofl wait its the middle of the week.

so what is pro-town about not answering questions? Maybe you want to be lynched and then get to say everybody was wrong? thats mature....why dont you just ask for a replacement?

[curiouskarmadog]

LMP, I don't see the answer to my question in your ISO (maybe I'm not looking hard enough, who knows), so I'll ask it again:

If you aren't lynched

, who do you plan to investigate tonight with your claimed alignment cop ability?

won't matter who he investigates, SF will just redirect him to somebody else

first of all, LMP is you really are a cop DO NOT TELL US WHO YOU WILL BE INVESTIGATING! RC, scum points for asking.

second, Shark cant target LMP again (according to his claim)..but he if did, that too would be scummy.

[curiouskarmadog]

god damn it...people need to listen to my gut instincts...knew tasky was was scummy...

good game scum, you knew who to pick off and when to pick them off.

[curiouskarmadog]

I like how all THE COMPLETE IDIOTS that lost this game for town are trying to prove who is the LESS IDIOT of the bunch. Good times.

RC, shut the fuck up and have some decency. You were one of the worse players in this game.

Id like to give props to LMP but he really didnt deserve the win, after the scumslip and such. You were the one eyed man in the land of the blind.

The only good thing is that ooba made an awesome job at modding.

QFT