Super Smash Bros. Mafia! GAME OVER!!

[Chronopie]

/confirm

[Chronopie]

*Zzzzzzz*

But seriously. there is nothing happening, in any of my games. :/

Pre-game is boring right naow.

[Chronopie]

Lynch Vote: Fate

hai. (Also hai to Almaster, Andrius, ani, furry, gandalf, kise, manho, mpr-kitten, nacho, nero, paltry, Socio, Vez/Reck, zazie, and anyone that I've played with but missed.)

Town Vote: Chrono

I am a great believer in trusting no-one until proven town. burnt once too often.

[Chronopie]

Chrono is confused as to why Gollum is posting like Troll

[Chronopie]

un-lynch vote: fate, Lynch vote: Kirbyoshi

Un-town vote: Chrono, Town vote: Fate

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Kirby is the RVS-esqe wagon I see.

I paid my Due to a Fate-RVS vote. (long time convention). But he's probably town. (If he pulls another SE II though, I'm gonna be pissed).

[Chronopie]

Diddin's defensive posts are terribad.

Rather than just pointing out that you are being bandwagoned, which is blatantly obv. Try finding the reasons of the people that started the wagon, and actually refute the points.

For example, if person A says: Lynch X because 1, 2, 3.
Person B: I agree, vote X.

You can comment that B is BWing, but would be better served by Going: A, you are wrong because 4,5,6.

un-lynch vote, lynch vote: Diddn

[Chronopie]

So... how long is silly twilight going to last?

Just thinking this myself...

[Chronopie]

Now here's what bugs me. "Traitor Mafia" + Blue Flip, would suggest two scum teams.

But we had one Smash Vig Kill + One kill. Supposing two Scum Teams + Smash Vig + possible SK, we should have 3-4 kills per night. We had two. So we either have doc(s), Jailkeeper(s), BPT(s), or NKImm SK/GF(s). (Also, The smash vig kill ignores all Protects/NKImm abilities, I asked)

It's possible that our Dead JK prevented an NK last night, but we can't ask them. :/

Town Vote: Furry

Holding off on L-V for now.

Semi V/LA until home internet restored (shouldn't be more than 1-2 days)

(Can still post when at Uni)

[Chronopie]

@Gollum: What would you say to a rabbit stew... With taters? /off-topic

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Untown vote, Town vote: nacho

Both Zaziesurio and xVezokenerx would make better vig/smash targets than lynchees. Lurkers != information lynches. And we need info, to find connections, to weed out and thus eliminate the scum.

[Chronopie]

MPR is still super scum.

Check out how he seems to put down SSK for hammering (when it was really L-1) before hammering himself. Regardless of diddin flip, which I really am not too sure on, leaning scum despite my views on VT claims, MPR still is scummy due to this.

Him completely ignoring diddin untill diddin had been lynched, jumping in, overhammering him, and saying diddin was scummy looks like a partner to me.

Thing is, MPR had fail-voted diddin previously. (He hadn't unvoted to do so, thus fail). Also, there would appear to be a contradiction in your words here.

"Overhammering."

!=

"...really L-1) before hammering"

That said, I'm going to go over Diddin's iso naow.

[Chronopie]

Based on Diddn's iso: I doubt that Vez/reck, Zazie/esurio, Kocc, manho and Kirby are Traitor-scum. Furry and Pikachu could be, possibly Switz.

The first list is based on diddn's iso #11

The second on #14

[Chronopie]

So impatient AGM.
-

diddin, several times, indicated that he liked Pikahydra's case(s). Whether it was scumbuddies, or scum buddying to a townie, I cannot be sure. Nevertheless, igmeoy.

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preview edit: Scum bus, but the tone of said post suggested non-bussing votes.

[Chronopie]

Based on Diddn's iso: I doubt that Vez/reck, Zazie/esurio, Kocc, manho and Kirby are Traitor-scum. Furry and Pikachu could be, possibly Switz.

The first list is based on diddn's iso #11

I will agree with you on Kocc and Manho, they at least gave reasoning behind their vote. (and where was kirby mentioned in that post?) However the Zazie and Veck posts are terrible, it was just a pure "jump on the BW" vote with ZERO reason given, and that clears them in your eyes?

Not clears. Just clears of being

Traitor

mafia.

Based on Diddn's iso: I doubt that Vez/reck, Zazie/esurio, Kocc, manho and Kirby are Traitor-scum. Furry and Pikachu could be, possibly Switz.

The first list is based on diddn's iso #11

The second on #14

^BTW THIS IS NOT CONTENT AND I HOPE YOU SHOOT WHO I SHOULD HAVE SHOT NACHO.

I REALLY FUCKIN DO.

Care to elaborate WHY they aren't scum/WHO is scum?

Cause the only fuckin motivation I see from you is ruling out your other scumbuddies based on flipped scum's posts, and NOT hunting for scum.

I put them on the "not

Traitor

scum" list, because of how they interacted with diddin, and his reactions. It doesn't exempt them from being x-other-scum.

The second set "Furry|Pikachu|Switz" are my candidates for potential

Traitor

scum

based on diddin's interactions with such.

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Also, Who would you have shot, your second and third choices? (Assuming you dealt with your top choice last night)

[Chronopie]

[FRIEND]

Chrono, take away interactions with diddin. Who do you think is scum based purely on their play?

Welp, paltry, Brian, and MafiaSSK are bugging me, but it's more a gut feeling than any real evidence.

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@Kirby: It's a pretty obv. conclusion, given the flavour that diddin posted.

Mario's less liked little brother. I may be able to jump higher than him, but I have no powers other than the power to lynch.

Translation (hypothetical): Overshadowed by Mario for too long, Luigi's out for revenge.

ofc It's not a unique translation, Fanfics have been saying this for years.

[Chronopie]

Also ftr: I don't get all the mongoose hate. He's reading more newb-town to me. (For all the good that my reads usually are i.e very little)

I think pikachu is right with the two mafia groups. We know the traitors, and logically speaking someone like bowser wouldn't team up with mario (who, I think we have established isnt a traitor since he is the reason luigi was).

And this point here follows my own reasoning fairly closely. (i.e If Luigi = scum (True) then Mario != scum.)

Although, seeing as diddin didn't have (or use) a Fakeclaim, a nameclaim

might

be able to blow this game open, but I don't advocate it. yet.

[Chronopie]

Not just that he called them town. (fyi He called one neutral.) His attitude towards said players.

Yes. Gut and Association with/by scum is how I work.

ftr: The signup thread said:

We tried to incorporate most of the characters, but enough to leave room for fakeclaims.

Not that They

HAVE

Fakeclaims.

[Chronopie]

No characters (afaik) fit a jester role. TBQH, I actually had (privately) speculated on Peach being a Beloved Princess role.

Nevertheless, Lynching a Beloved Princess is not the right call. We would be lynching a (near confirmed due to exclusively town role) townie, have the standard NK(s), and then lose another day for the funeral.

We would be far better off treating gandalf/Peach as conf. town, lynch someone scummy, and

possibly

having a doc protect Gandalf so we don't lose said days.

[Chronopie]

Well idk when I LV'd myself

but

UnLynchvote, Lynchvote: Gandalf

I'd rather give a jester a win, than lose a day to a scum NK.

[Chronopie]

So the BP death due to lynch did nothing? That's good.

But we had "Stabbed" and "Choked" kill flavours... No Smash. Nacho???

Town vote: Furry
Lynch vote: Mongoose

[Chronopie]

@Furry:

I'm sorry, it seems I was not clear. If I am lynched, it is as if I was a VT. Nothing happens. We only lose a day if I'm Nked.

That's why I would much rather I were lynched. Also, looking at my role PM, it doesn't say anything about day vigs. So........ probably not worth the risk.

Yes, it specifically states, "This does not happen if you are lynched."

Gandalf posted these Prior to my LV. So no. just no.

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@Nacho: I'd noticed the lack of use myself. Thus why I commented on the lack of smash flavour.

But just for you.

Un-Lynch vote

for now.

[Chronopie]

After reading Gollum's Iso

No longer convinced of potential Mongoose-Villan scum. Not ruling out Mongoose-Traitor but w/e.

[Chronopie]

(I assume you mean loss of day)

Because of the mod scene on Gandalf-BP lynch, which suggested a

bit

of bastardry.

[Chronopie]

Isn't vez/reck getting wagon purely for lurking? Like, super-lurking so much it's not even active-lurking, closer to flaking-but-showing-up-when-prodded-to-post-once-and-lurking-again.

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Where as the Mongoose wagon is based on scummy behaviour. (Although after having looked back at Gollum's iso, Mongoose-Gollum scumteam =/= option)

[Chronopie]

All votes are now reset.

Does this include town votes?

[Chronopie]

So Vez/Reck was a VT-Lurker. No great loss. I still don't understand why such a large wagon built on that alone.

xVEZOKNERx (8): Nachomamma8, Bunnylover, CJMiller, manho, Fate, Stels, tanstalas, Framm 18

And why Nacho didn't just deal with this lurker (Via smash ball) last night. Seeing as they were first on the wagon.

[Chronopie]

All votes are now reset.

Does this include town votes?

Fix'd to remove extra tag.

Also

re-

Town Vote: Furry

just in case

Lynch Vote: Mongoose

Sometimes I wish I were an

Unlimited

shot day-vig

[Chronopie]

Sorry Ani. I assume it was rule #6 rite?

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Un-Lynch Vote, Lynch Vote: Zaziesurio

Still leaving my TV on Furry.

[Chronopie]

Un-Lynch vote

Flavourwise (i.e Kirby|Absorber), the claim makes sense.

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Purely academic, Did you check with the mod for some potential uses? Like would you get a kill from a goon, or QT access from a mason etc? Basically you could you act the cop+ ?

[Chronopie]

Well, it's true. We're Mario, town doctor.

unlynchvote: Zaziesurio

lynchvote: Chronopie

This is not the correct move.

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So we have:

Zaziesurio - Kirby - Town Absorber (Doc atm)
Pikachu - Mario - Town Doc

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FYI: A mafiate with the smashball, or the Day-vig, could break your Breaking Strategy. But the first would be outing himself.

[Chronopie]

I too believe that Names are linked to roles.

Un-town Vote, Town Vote: Pikachu

[Chronopie]

He

could

be a rolecop. -.-

[Chronopie]

Vote: bunnylover

Furry, if you want me dead, encourage your scumbuddies to shoot me. -.-

[Chronopie]

Vote: bunnylover

Furry, if you want me dead, encourage your scumbuddies to shoot me. -.-

LOL YOU'LL NEVER BE USEFUL ENOUGH FOR THAT TO HAPPEN.

SEriously Chrono, seriously. You might be town this game, so DO SOMETHING.

Then again that goes for another 10 people playing this game so *shrug*. I just hate it cause you're always like this.

Yes I'm always like this. And I know that you fail to read me *Cough*Philly*Cough*

Between You, Me and Esurio, we could thin this game a fair bit and win. Provided you get your reads right.

@Esurio: Do you have to absorb a phase prior to use? or can you absorb and use in the same phase?

[Chronopie]

I'm down for MPR a hanging (Who isn't?)

UnLynch vote

Lynch vote: MPR

[Chronopie]

err... I posted yesterday. Why the prod?

Still down for a mongoose or MPR lynch.

[Chronopie]

So I see I've been prodded.

So now Dana is Rolefishing? This day just keeps getting scummier and scummier. Next thing we know, there'll be a pair of unwarranted claims, a cop/guilty, and (another) day kill.

Un-Lynch vote, Lynch Vote: danakillsu

[Chronopie]

unlynch vote
lynch cote chronopte

/drunken ideals

chrono needs death. seriouslyness

once again. not the correct play. mongoose needs death, and dana's rolefishing. If you want me dead, have your scumbuddies agree to killing me.

[Chronopie]

Just once, I'd like scum to claim like that.

"ZOMG I'm the last Mafioso you guyzz lolzz"

Or at least for Metaknight to claim like that.

[Chronopie]

That was just 'cos Quadz said something about that. rite?

[Chronopie]

time for the mod(s) to write the scene, and possible governor to choose whether to negate? (fyi: idk on the governor bit.)

[Chronopie]

Furry, I've said it once, I'll say it again. If you want me dead, get your scum team to NK me. You know you want to.

[Chronopie]

Damn shame about Esurio Dying, I had a Breaking Strategy in mind.

[Chronopie]

Going to be semi-V/LA over the next week, I have a group presentation to work on. posting this across all games.

[Chronopie]

Damn shame about Esurio Dying, I had a Breaking Strategy in mind.

Obviously he would die. Why the hell would the mafia want another doctor in the game? Are you trying to make us think you're town by stating the obvious? Breaking strategy? WTF?

Yes a breaking Strategy, involving Esurio's ability, the fact that we had two docs at that time, and the mod confirmed info on what would happen had Esurio answered my question and gone along with my strategy earlier.

[Chronopie]

Lynch vote: Mongoose

Town Vote: Sharkfinn

Info role info is tech and worth preserving.

[Chronopie]

KO'd of the game (16/28):

28. diddin, the Traitor Mafia Godfather (Luigi), fatally brunt himself Day 1

23. Gollum (Kise + Nero Cain hydra), Villain Mafia Watcher (Wolf), has choked to death Night 2!

27. quadz08 (???), was killed and dumped in a vat of acid Night 3!

17. mongoose, Villain Mafia Roleblocker (Bowser), was executed via Firing Squad D4

4. manho, Traitor Mafia Goon (R.O.B.), was Deleted N4

8. palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Traitor Mafia Roleblocker (Jigglypuff), Detonated D5

Red Watcher, Red RB vs. Blue GF, Blue Goon, Blue RB.

So who thinks we might have a Red GF, a Red Goon, and Blue Info role to go?

(It's possible that Quadz was one of the above roles)

9. Fate, Town Mason (Captain Olimar and Pikmin), was crushed and eliminated N4

This looks like multiple kill targeted. Crushed (1) eliminated (2).

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: If I'm right, we're at 9:2:1 (Town:Red:Blue)

Still Smashin' (12/28):

1. mothrax

2. Pikachu (Friend + AlmasterGM hydra)

3. CSL

6. MehPlusRawr

11. Stels

13. Kirbyoshi

14. Nachomamma8

18. Bunnylover

20. Furry

21. Chronopie

22. tanstalas

25. SharkFinn

Of these:
Sharkfinn - Cop. (Maybe the BLUE info role, seeing as he didn't die) -

(consider: He gave us the RED Bowser)

Pikahydra - Doc
Furry - Tracker
An unidentified mason (maybe two, given game size)

[Chronopie]

NB: I may have missed some of the replacees when colouring.

Lynch count 1.1!

MehPlusRawr (6):

Fate

, Nachomamma8,

diddin

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Brian Hollywood
Furry (1): Kirbyoshi
Bunnylover (2): MehPlusRawr,

Fraam 18

tanstalas (1): SGRaazie
SGRaazie (1): tanstalas

Fraam18

(1): Kocc42 (CSL)
Kirbyoshi (3): Furry,

Frayed

, Pikachu

mongoose

(1): MehPlusRawr

Fate

(2): Chronopie,

Zaziesurio

Not voting (10): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.1!

diddin

(1):

diddin

MehPlusRawr (3): SGRaazie, MehPlusRawr, Kocc42 (CSL)

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (2): Furry, Bunnylover
Chronopie (1): Chronopie

Frayed

(1): Kirbyoshi

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (1):

Frayed

Noone (17): Everyone else

Lynch count 1.2!

MehPlusRawr (3): Bunnylover, Brian Hollywood, Seth (Stels)
Bunnylover (1):

Fraam 18

SGRaazie (1): tanstalas

Fraam18

(1): Kocc42 (CSL)
Kirbyoshi (8): Furry,

Frayed

, Pikachu, MafiaSSK,

Switz

,

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Chronopie,

diddin

mongoose

(3): MehPlusRawr,

Fate

, Kirbyoshi
MafiaSSK (1): Nachomamma8
Brain Hollywood (1):

Gollum

Seth (Stels) (4):

Zaziesurio

,

Gandalf

5166,

mongoose

, MehPlusRawr

Not voting (5): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.2!

diddin

(1):

diddin

MehPlusRawr (3): SGRaazie, MehPlusRawr, Kocc42 (CSL)

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (2): Furry, Bunnylover

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (1):

Frayed

Fate

(5):

Fate

, Nachomamma8, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie,

Gandalf

5166

xVezoknerx

(1):

xVezoknerx

Noone (13): Everyone else

Lynch count 1.3!

MehPlusRawr (4): Bunnylover, Brian Hollywood, Seth (Stels), Furry
Bunnylover (1):

Fraam 18

Fraam18

(1): Kocc42 (CSL)
Kirbyoshi (7):

Frayed

, Pikachu, MafiaSSK,

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Chronopie,

diddin

, tanstalas

mongoose

(3):

Fate

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

MafiaSSK (1):

Sociopath

Brain Hollywood (1):

Gollum

Seth (Stels) (4):

Gandalf

5166,

mongoose

, MehPlusRawr, Seth (Stels)

diddin

(2): Nachomamma8,

Switz

Switz

(1): PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn)

Not voting (3): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.3!

diddin

(1):

diddin

MehPlusRawr (2): MehPlusRawr, Kocc42 (CSL)

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (1): Bunnylover

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (1):

Frayed

Fate

(10):

Fate

, Nachomamma8, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie,

Gandalf

5166,

SGRaaize

,

Sociopath

,

Manho

,

Switz

, tanstalas

xVezoknerx

(1):

xVezoknerx

PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn) (1): Furry

Noone (9): Everyone else

Lynch count 1.5!

MehPlusRawr (4): Bunnylover, Brian Hollywood, Seth (Stels), Furry
Bunnylover (1):

Fraam 18

Fraam18

(1): Kocc42 (CSL)
Kirbyoshi (7):

Frayed

, Pikachu, MafiaSSK,

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Chronopie,

diddin

, tanstalas

mongoose

(3):

Fate

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

MafiaSSK (1):

Sociopath

Brain Hollywood (1):

Gollum

Seth (Stels) (4):

Gandalf

5166,

mongoose

, MehPlusRawr, Seth (Stels)

diddin

(2): Nachomamma8,

Switz

Switz

(1): PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn)

Not voting (3): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.5!

diddin

(1):

diddin

MehPlusRawr (2): MehPlusRawr, Kocc42 (CSL)

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (1): Bunnylover

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (1):

Frayed

Fate

(12):

Fate

, Nachomamma8, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie,

Gandalf

5166,

SGRaaize

,

Sociopath

,

Manho

,

Switz

, tanstalas, Pikachu

xVezoknerx

(1):

xVezoknerx

PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn) (1): Furry

Noone (8): Everyone else

Lynch count 1.6!

MehPlusRawr (3): Bunnylover, Seth (Stels), Furry
Kirbyoshi (7):

Frayed

, MafiaSSK,

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Chronopie,

diddin

, tanstalas

mongoose

(1): Kirbyoshi
MafiaSSK (1):

Sociopath

Brain Hollywood (1):

Gollum

Seth (Stels) (4):

Gandalf

5166,

mongoose

, MehPlusRawr, Seth (Stels)

diddin

(8): Nachomamma8,

Switz

,

Manho

, Kocc42 (CSL),

Zaziesurio

,

xVezoknerx

,

Fate

, Pikachu

Switz

(1): PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn)

xVezoknerx

(1):

Fraam 18

Not voting (2): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.6!

MehPlusRawr (1): MehPlusRawr

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (1): Bunnylover

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (2):

Frayed

,

diddin

Fate

(13):

Fate

, Nachomamma8, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie,

Gandalf

5166,

SGRaaize

,

Sociopath

,

Manho

,

Switz

, tanstalas, Pikachu,

Gollum

, Furry, Kocc42 (CSL)

xVezoknerx

(1):

xVezoknerx

Noone (8): Everyone else

Lynch count 1.7!

Lynch

MehPlusRawr (3): Bunnylover, Seth (Stels), Furry
Kirbyoshi (2): MafiaSSK,

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

MafiaSSK (1):

Sociopath

Brain Hollywood (1):

Gollum

Seth (Stels) (4):

Gandalf

5166,

mongoose

, MehPlusRawr, Seth (Stels)

diddin

(11): Nachomamma8,

Switz

,

Manho

, Kocc42 (CSL),

Zaziesurio

,

xVezoknerx

,

Fate

, Pikachu,

Frayed

,

SGRaaize

, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie, MPR

Switz

(1): PaltryExcuse (Sharkfinn)

xVezoknerx

(2):

Fraam 18

,

diddin

, tanstalas

Not voting (2): Everyone else

With 28 alive it's 15 to

Lynch!

Town votes 1.7!

MehPlusRawr (1): MehPlusRawr

mongoose

(1):

mongoose

Pikachu (1): Bunnylover

Fraam 18

(1): MafiaSSK
Furry (2):

Frayed

,

diddin

Fate

(14):

Fate

, Nachomamma8, Kirbyoshi, Chronopie,

Gandalf

5166,

SGRaaize

,

Sociopath

,

Manho

,

Switz

, tanstalas, Pikachu,

Gollum

, Furry, Kocc42 (CSL)

xVezoknerx

(1):

xVezoknerx

Noone (7): Everyone else

Lynch count 2.1!

Kirbyoshi (2): Furry, Kocc42 (CSL)

xVezoknerx

(3):

Fraam 18

, Kirbyoshi, tanstalas

Zaziesurio

(2): Pikachu,

Switz

Chronopie (1):

Fate

With 24 alive it's 13 to

Lynch!

Town votes 2.1!

Kocc42 (CSL) (1): Furry
Nachomamma8 (2): Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8
Furry (4): Pikachu, Kocc42 (CSL) tanstalas,

Switz

Lynch count 2.2!

MehPlusRawr (1): Furry
Kirbyoshi (2): Kocc42 (CSL),

Manho

xVezoknerx

(3):

Fraam 18

, Kirbyoshi, tanstalas

Zaziesurio

(2): Pikachu,

Switz

mongoose

(1):

Gollum

Chronopie (1):

Fate

With 24 alive it's 13 to

Lynch!

Town votes 2.2!

Nachomamma8 (6): Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8, Stels,

Manho

, Pikachu, Chronopie
Furry (6): Pikachu, Kocc42 (CSL) tanstalas,

Switz

, mothrax,

Gollum

Lynch count 2.3!

MehPlusRawr (1): Furry

Gandalf

5166 (3):

Fate

, MehPlusRawr,

Gollum

Kirbyoshi (2):

Manho

xVezoknerx

(2):

Fraam 18

, tanstalas

Zaziesurio

(1):

Switz

mongoose

(1): Kocc42 (CSL)

With 24 alive it's 13 to

Lynch!

Town votes 2.3!

Nachomamma8 (8): Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8, Stels,

Manho

, Pikachu, Chronopie,

mongoose

, Kocc42 (CSL)
Furry (5): Pikachu, tanstalas,

Switz

, mothrax,

Gollum

Lynch count!

MehPlusRawr (1): Furry

Gandalf

5166 (5):

Fate

, MehPlusRawr,

Gollum

,

Gandalf

5166,

xVezoknerx

Kirbyoshi (2):

Manho

xVezoknerx

(2):

Fraam 18

, tanstalas

Zaziesurio

(1):

Switz

mongoose

(2): Kocc42 (CSL), Kirbyoshi

With 24 alive it's 13 to

Lynch!

Town votes!

Nachomamma8 (9): Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8, Stels,

Manho

, Pikachu, Chronopie,

mongoose

, Kocc42 (CSL),

Gandalf

5166
Furry (5): Pikachu, tanstalas,

Switz

, mothrax,

Gollum

Lynch count 2.5!

Lynch

Gandalf

5166 (13): MehPlusRawr,

Gollum

,

Gandalf

5166,

xVezoknerx

,

Fraam 18

,

Switz

. Kirbyoshi,

mongoose

, Furry, Chronopie, mothrax, SharkFinn, Bunnylover
Kirbyoshi (1):

Manho

xVezoknerx

(1): tanstalas

mongoose

(2): Kocc42 (CSL),

Fate

With 24 alive it's 13 to

Lynch!

A

Lynch has been decided!

Twilight will last until August 15th, 2010 at 1:30 PM CST.

Town votes 2.5!

Nachomamma8 (11): Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8, Stels,

Manho

, Pikachu, Chronopie,

mongoose

, Kocc42 (CSL), SharkFinn, Furry, mothrax
Furry (5): Pikachu, tanstalas,

Switz

, mothrax,

Gollum

Nachomamma8 has received the Smash Ball for today.

Lynch count 3.1!

xVezoknerx

(8): Nachomamma8, Bunnylover,

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

Manho

,

Fate

, Stels, tanstalas,

Fraam 18

Zaziesurio

(1): Pikachu

mongoose

(6): MehPlusRawr,

danakillsu

, Kocc42 (CSL), SharkFinn, mothrax, Kirbyoshi
Chronopie (1): Furry

With 21 alive it's 12 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.1!

Pikachu (1): Kirbyoshi
Kirbyoshi (3): Nachomamma8,

Fate

, Stels
Furry (7): Pikachu, Bunnylover,

CJmiller (Quadz08)

, Kocc42 (CSL), Chronopie,

Manho

, Furry

danakillsu

(3): Furry,

danakillsu

, SharkFinn

Lynch count 3.2!

xVezoknerx

(8): Nachomamma8, Bunnylover,

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

Manho

,

Fate

, Stels, tanstalas,

Fraam 18

Zaziesurio

(1): Pikachu

mongoose

(6): MehPlusRawr,

danakillsu

, Kocc42 (CSL), SharkFinn, mothrax, Kirbyoshi
Chronopie (1): Furry

With 21 alive it's 12 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.2!

Pikachu (2): mothrax,

Zaziesurio

Kirbyoshi (4): Nachomamma8,

Fate

, Stels, Kirbyoshi
Furry (7): Pikachu, Bunnylover,

CJmiller (Quadz08)

, Kocc42 (CSL), Chronopie,

Manho

, Furry

danakillsu

(3): Furry,

danakillsu

, SharkFinn

Note: Vezokener was Day-Vigged here.

Lynch count 3.3!

MehPlusRawr (1): tanstalas

mongoose

(7):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

danakillsu

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42 (CSL)
Chronopie (3): Furry, Pikachu,

Fate

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.3!

Pikachu (14):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL)
Furry (2):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

, tanstalas

Lynch count 3.4!

MehPlusRawr (6): tanstalas,

Fate

, Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie,

Manho

mongoose

(7):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

danakillsu

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42 (CSL)
Bunnylover (2):

Fraam 18

, mothrax
Chronopie (1): Pikachu

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.4!

Pikachu (16):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL), mothrax, tanstalas
Furry (1):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

Lynch count 3.5!

MehPlusRawr (6): tanstalas,

Fate

, Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie,

Manho

mongoose

(7):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

danakillsu

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42 (CSL)
Bunnylover (3):

Fraam 18

, mothrax,

mongoose

Chronopie (1): Pikachu

Not Voting (3): Everyone Else

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.5!

Pikachu (16):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL), mothrax, tanstalas
Furry (1):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

Lynch count 3.6!

MehPlusRawr (5): tanstalas, Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie,

Manho

mongoose

(9):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

danakillsu

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

, MehPlusRawr, SharkFinn, Kocc42 (CSL),

Palmertrou

singersigner

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, mothrax
Bunnylover (2):

Fraam 18

,

mongoose

Chronopie (1): Pikachu

danakillsu

(1):

Fate

Not Voting (3): Everyone Else

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.6!

Pikachu (16):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL), mothrax, tanstalas
Furry (1):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

Not Voting (3): Everyone else

Lynch count 3.7!

MehPlusRawr (4): Bunnylover, Furry, Chronopie,

mongoose

mongoose

(8):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

,

danakillsu

, Kirbyoshi,

Zaziesurio

, MehPlusRawr, Kocc42 (CSL),

Palmertrou

singersigner

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, mothrax
Bunnylover (1):

Fraam 18

Chronopie (1): Pikachu

danakillsu

(4):

Fate

, tanstalas,

Manho

, SharkFinn

Not Voting (2): Everyone Else

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.7!

Pikachu (16):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL), mothrax, tanstalas
Furry (1):

CJmiller (Quadz08)

Not Voting (3): Everyone else

Lynch count 3.8!

Lynch

MehPlusRawr (2): Bunnylover, Furry

Fate

(1): mothrax

mongoose

(6):

Quadz08

,

danakillsu

,

Zaziesurio

, Kocc42 (CSL),

Palmertrou

singersigner

Palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Stels
Bunnylover (1):

Fraam 18

danakillsu

(9):

Fate

, tanstalas,

Manho

, SharkFinn, Chronopie, Pikachu,

mongoose

, Kirbyoshi, MehPlusRawr, +Quadz, +Kocc42 (CSL)

Not Voting (1): Everyone Else

With 20 alive it's 11 to

Lynch!

Town votes 3.8!

Pikachu (16):

Zaziesurio

, Bunnylover,

mongoose

, Pikachu,

danakillsu

, MehPlusRawr, Pikachu, Kirbyoshi, Stels, SharkFinn, Furry, Chronopie,

Fate

, Kocc42 (CSL), mothrax, tanstalas
Furry (1):

Quadz08

Not Voting (3): Everyone else
Note: Dana

Lynched

Lynch count 4.1!

Manho

(1): Furry

Fate

(1): Bunnylover

mongoose

(2): Kirbyoshi, mothrax
Bunnylover (4): tanstalas,

Manho

,

mongoose

,

Fate

Furry (1): Nachomamma8

Not Voting (1): Everyone Else

With 16 alive it's 9 to

Lynch!

Town votes 4.1!

mothrax (1): mothrax

Manho

(1):

Manho

palmetrou (1): Furry
Kirbyoshi (3):

Fate

, Kirbyoshi, Nachomamma8

Not Voting (3): Everyone else

Lynch count 4.2!

Lynch

mongoose

(9): Kirbyoshi, mothrax, SharkFinn, tanstalas, Furry, Pikachu, Nachomamma8, Chronopie,

Fate

(Bunnylover was overkill)
Bunnylover (2):

Manho

,

mongoose

Not Voting (1): Everyone Else

With 16 alive it's 9 to

Lynch!

mongoose

has been

Lynched!

Town votes 4.2!

mothrax (1): mothrax

Manho

(1):

Manho

Kirbyoshi (1): Kirbyoshi
SharkFinn (7): tanstalas, Furry, Pikachu, Nachomamma8, Chronopie,

Fate

, Bunnylover

[Chronopie]

Shit. Hit submit instead of preview.

Working on the analysis that goes with the wagons above.

[Chronopie]

Also, while I'm here. Sharkfinn.

What

is your role.

[Chronopie]

I thought Commuter just dodged kills.

w/e.

If we assume that Quadz was Wario-Villain Scum (probably the goon), then we're probably down to 10:1:1, rather than the 9:2:1 I assumed before. In that case Red-GF vs. Blue-??

and that doesn't account for the janitoring, which would come from a blue killer, which doesn't fit a mirror-like setup. Assuming (as both had an RB) that blue would have an info role (Tracker, Watcher, Rolecop etc.), and red would have a GF.

--

You missed Pikahydra's Claim of Mario the Doctor

--

1. mothrax: ??? (???)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: ??? (???)
6. MehPlusRawr: ??? (???)
11. Stels: ??? (???)

13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
14. Nachomamma8: ??? (???)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: ??? (???) [Broken combo with absorber???]
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/RoleGiver to

Link

)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

[Chronopie]

MC would be good for me (name claim works now at this point) It would definitely give me more info to double check what everyone claims, but seeing as jigglypuff and

olimar

as scum doesnt 100% clear people.

Also pointing out whoever Solid Snake is should be clean. Shouldnt claim role though, based on my reading of the game.

Fate/Olimar was a town mason. did you mean R.O.B?

--

And I think one of the last scum names might be Metaknight.

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: ??? (???)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: ??? (???)
6. MehPlusRawr: ??? (???)
11. Stels: ??? (???)

13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
14. Nachomamma8: ??? (???)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: ??? (???) [Broken combo with absorber???]
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/RoleGiver to

Link

)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

Pikachu is 99% chance of town. (Luigi-Traitor GF points to Mario being non-Traitor, and Bowser-Villain suggests Mario-town)
Sharkfinn is 98% town, due to role and use.
Tantalas is 80% town, due to role.
Furry is 75% town due to role. (given that Jigglypuff = Traitor, there's a chance of Sonic being Traitor, and would fit the Blue-Info role slot I think exists)
There's an unidentified mason (with Fate), possibly two, given this was a 28 player game.
I know I'm town [wifom]

Bunnylover-VT has fair chance of being scum. (LaVTc)
I'd like to see CSL, MPR, and Kirby claim next, followed by myself and NM8. (in no particular order. Or I can claim whenever)

[Chronopie]

^I Forgot about Mothrax. In with the first three I listed.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: and Stels in with myself and NM8

[Chronopie]

12 atm (D5). Lynch + Day Vig = 10 tonight. we could win. Or be down to 8:1:1 or 9:1

1/2 kills + Smash kill (N5)= 7 tomorrow. either we win (if they cross kill or get smashed) or 7/6:1 (depending on whether a scum died during the day) or 5:1:1

Lynch (D6). either Win, 6/5:1 or 4:1:1

1/2xNK + Smash (N6). anywhere between town win and 1:1:1 prisoners dilemma.

--

Chance of Town win is high in this game

[Chronopie]

Snake

Odd Day Vig/Lyncher

Lyncher to

metaknight

.

I win with the town, provided that metaknight dies by my hand (either by vigging or lynch).

I retain my vigging powers once metaknight dies.

And if metaknight dies by any hand other than my own, bad things happen [/paraphrase]

--

So do I shoot him, or are we going to lynch him?

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: Falco (VT)
6. MehPlusRawr: ??? (???)
11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer) [N3 He targetted me and we both spoke last night in a QT. We decided to recruit CSL, since he was the most recent subin.] Stels is Clear
13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
14. Nachomamma8: ??? (???)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher) [Broken combo with absorber???]
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/RoleGiver to Link)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

--

The broken combo was giving ZaziEsurio Odd Day Vigging powaz, without any lyncher restriction on them. So two vigs for the price of one.

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: Falco (VT)
6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)
11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer) [N3 He targetted me (Sharkfinn) and we both spoke last night in a QT. We decided to recruit CSL, since he was the most recent subin.] Stels is Clear
13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
14. Nachomamma8: ??? (???)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher) [Broken combo with absorber???]
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/RoleGiver to Link)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

--

The broken combo was giving ZaziEsurio Odd Day Vigging powaz, without any lyncher restriction on them. So two vigs for the price of one.

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: Falco (VT)
6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)
11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)
13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate

)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/RoleGiver to Link)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

Can't say that I didn't expect Nacho-Mason, once Fate-Mason flipped it was obvious, given his interactions, who the other mason was.

N3 Stels and Sharkfinn were Neighbourized, +CSL night 4.

--

Nacho is clear - 100% chance of town.
Sharkfinn + Stels are 99% clear.

Tantalas is most likely town.
Furry is most likely town (but would fit into blue scum)
Pikachu is likely town, based on role + Z/E absorber.
I'm town with dual W/Cs (Once I deal to Metaknight, pure town W/C)

Chances are the scum is in here (I plain to deal to Mothrax before deadline):

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)

3. CSL: Falco (VT)
6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)
13. Kirbyoshi: ??? (???)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

[Chronopie]

why not bring up the posibility of a vig... you knew there was one in the game... also, this was on an odd night, and yet there were only two kills... shouldnt there have hypothetically have been 4 if you are odd night vig?

Odd

Day

Vig.

SocioPath D1.

Vez/Reck hydra D3.

Palmertrou D5.

--

You may be town, but that won't stop you dying asap.

--

Unless, does anyone have any knowledge of a game where they had the same power as Chrono claimed, but their target was town along with him?

Closest I can think of is Cross Edge Bastard Mafia Parama's Heroic W/C was town W/C + all demons dead, and he had vigging powaz. Difference was that he didn't need to kill them himself, just make sure they didn't survive. (and he had more targets)

[Chronopie]

Dead Scum:

28. diddin, the Traitor Mafia Godfather (Luigi), Lynch Day 1

23. Gollum (Kise + Nero Cain hydra), Villain Mafia Watcher (Wolf), NK'd Night 2!

27. quadz08 (???), NK'd + Janitored Night 3!

Wario, Villain ??? (goon?)

17. mongoose, Villain Mafia Roleblocker (Bowser), Lynched D4

4. manho, Traitor Mafia Goon (R.O.B.), NK'd N4

8. palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Traitor Mafia Roleblocker (Jigglypuff), Vigged D5

GF + Goon + Roleblocker

vs.

Watcher + Goon? + Roleblocker

If it's a

20

vs.

4

vs.

4

setup, then

Info role

vs.

GF

Unexplained: Janitoring of

Quadz

kill. Presumably a blue NK/ability, as the smashes shouldn't janitor, and the scum roles aren't janitorial afaik.

Speculation:

Blue info role may infact be an info DENIAL role, thus the janitor. Alternatively, the claimed Name cop (unlikely) or claimed Tracker.

Extreme Speculation:

18

vs.

5

vs.

5

- Would allow for a

blue janitor, blue info role

,

red GF, and red ??? (as janitor counterbalance)

And I just noticed:

Gollum - Villain Mafia Watcher (Wolf)

danakillsu, Town Watcher (Pit)

no

Blue Watcher? (yet)

FTR: My vig kills:

12. SocioPath, a Vanilla Townie (Mr. Game & Watch), Day 1

OMGUS for Philly mafia, where he and Fate pushed my lynch without even letting me claim. (was running at the same time as this game, but it's finished now) We were all town.

15. xVEZOKNERx, a Vanilla Townie (Donkey Kong), Day 3!

Lurker, was accumulating a wagon, felt it was my town duty

8. palmertrou

singersigner

I doubt it

, Traitor Mafia Roleblocker (Jigglypuff), D5

A hunch.

[Chronopie]

Can people please stop ninja'ing me? please?

--

Lynch Vote: CSL
Town Vote: Furry

--

Once kirby claims we can continue here. Right now I am thinking lynch CSL (blue scum) smash bunny (red scum). However there is the point that bunny cant be blue at this point. The player I tracked last night N4 is not blue scum, and not red if quadz is red.

So Tanatalas can't be scum because (assuming one scum on each team left), there were two kills. rite?

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: Falco (VT)

<- Lynchee

6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)
11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)
13. Kirbyoshi:Pokemon Trainer (Mason w/

Fate

/nacho)
14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate

/Kirby)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

<- Smashee

20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

--

And if we're wrong on CSL, two kills + smash tonight.

--

DayKill: Mothrax

And that's half my wincon achieved.

[Chronopie]

Sorry Chrono... you don't get a daykill today... already used it remember? or where you lying about killing palm?
and bunny, not if, but when.

Aww. Forgot I killed Palm today in the excitement of fulfilling half of my wincon. D:

I would like all mafiates and smash vigs to leave Mothrax for me on D7. kthx.

[Chronopie]

^assuming we last to D7 ofc. Losing despite a town win would make me very sad.

[Chronopie]

idk actually.

I sent the Socio kill pretty close to start of day. Vez/Reck when the wagon got large for no good reason, Palmertrou early day (obv).

[Chronopie]

I had an (erroneous) Metaknight read on him. and thought that we wouldn't see a mass claim until tomorrow in all likelihood.

[Chronopie]

^Winpic.

If the game doesn't end tonight, due to a miskill tonight (or the improbable having occured). Then can we lynch Mothrax tomorrow and smashkill whoever for the (full town) win?

[Chronopie]

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)
3. CSL: Falco (VT)

SCUM DIE SCUM

6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)

<- Smashee

11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)
13. Kirbyoshi:Pokemon Trainer (Mason w/

Fate

/nacho)
14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate

/Kirby)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)
20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)
25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

--

Something is still bugging meee.

Where the hell did the Quadz Janitoring come from?!?

[Chronopie]

The point is that there are no janitors accounted for, and the scum teams have both had an RB, with a ?goon? and a watcher, vs. a GF and a goon. Presumably the scum teams are going to be similar, i.e both with GF, both with Info role. Nowhere is janitor accounted for, unless it's blue info role, in an info denial form.

--

[speculation]WCS: The teams were/are 5 man teams, thus allowing for a janitor without invalidating any assumptions along the way.[/speculation]

[Chronopie]

VOTE: Mothrax

--

Wait... 3 kills. o.O

Either the scum teams are 5 person teams, or Quadz wasn't red scum.

If we assume the Teams are 5 man (ohnoes), then we're looking for 2 blue and a red scum, else, just 1 of each.

--

2. Pikachu: Mario (Doctor)

3. CSL: Ganondolf (Red GF)

6. MehPlusRawr: Capt. Falcon (VT)

13. Kirbyoshi:Pokemon Trainer (Mason w/

Fate

/nacho)

14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate/Kirby

)

<-- Very, very town. But has had Smashball already

20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)

<-- likely town. But has had Smashball already

25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

<-- Very, likely town. But has had Smashball already

11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)

1. mothrax: MetaKnight (VT/Lynchee)
18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

--

P.Edit: k... Lets hear it.

[Chronopie]

Uhh...

Link, Zelda/Sheik, Ganondolf.
Mario, Peach, Luigi, Bowser

--

But he would fit the Blue info role that's missing. Then again, so would Furry. and if he were red, why would he give us not one, but two (possibly a third posthumously) of his red buddies.

Sorry, I don't see the Shark-scum theory.

[Chronopie]

And before I forget...

Results from Shark & Furry?

[Chronopie]

Wait...

He gave us TWO red scum AND SMASHED a Blue Scum. Doesn't seem like a scum action, from either faction.

And if you believe this theory, How about Kirby/Metaknight? After all, Zaziesurio flipped Kirby-Town. Therefore Metaknight-scum. rite? So vote mothrax with me. If he flips scum, I'll be more inclined to believe you, and more open to lynching Shark.

[Chronopie]

So what's wrong with lynching mothrax Nacho?

Stels' theory is that any given universe represented contains, if the number of characters from said universe >1, at least one scum member. Do you disagree with said theory?

Stels would like to lynch Sharkfinn, due to above theory, even offering a 1:1. However, on the chance that Sharkfinn is

actually

an investigative role, I offered an alternative lynch, on a Claimed VT, that fits said criterion of theory. Thus allowing another investigative result, and/or verifying said theory, while preserving power roles.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: Preserving *claimed* power roles.

[Chronopie]

Have you checked the numbers?

We have 8 players. If Quadz was in fact Red scum (As Sharkfinn's result of Wario would suggest), that would be 4 Red scum dead, 3 blue dead. Yet we had 3 NKs. That would suggest Smash kill + NK from BOTH factions. Thus 5 scum per faction. That would be 1 Red + 2 Blue scum Left.

that's 3/8

According to above theory, mothrax has a >50% chance of scum.

If mothrax is red scum, we remove an NK tonight, if Blue, we even the numbers of scum. Smash + 1/2 NK(s) leaves us at either 1:1:2 (WCS), 2:3 (with blue scum only), or (if we're lucky i.e mothrax=blue + xkills) a win.

If he's town, I can shoot someone scummy tomorrow.

--

Who would you kill?

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: *Stels' theory* | would you *Lynch*

[Chronopie]

@Tantalas: Nope, I don't need to hammer, just be on the wagon.

The sooner He dies (by my hand), the less I have to worry about not winning with everyone else.

And it's not 'become' town, it IS town. w/ an extra W/C.

Why not Vig Vezo/Reck? It doesn't change the fact that I can still vig X and lynchwagon Y. (X and Y are interchangable)

And I already explained my shot, I had a 'Metaknight' read on Palmer. And I still hit scum.

--

What? Metaknight hasn't flipped town yet.

And why does it only work on 4 people?

--

So bunny went nowhere, I'm guessing Shark got a real/claimed name?

[Chronopie]

14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate/Kirby

)

has had Smashball

20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)

has had Smashball

25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

has had Smashball

11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)
21. Chronopie: Snake (Odd Day Vig/Lyncher)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)

1. mothrax: MetaKnight ('VT'/Lynchee)

18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

Double confirmed

--

Fine, I'll kill mothrax tomorrow.

Lynch Unvote: mothrax

Holding off on voting Stels until everyone's had a say.

Town Vote: Bunnylover

[Chronopie]

Also no one put him at L-1 with chrono around please.

Note my results clear no one from being red scum except bunny. Tonight I will (probably dying) and tracking someone else.

What? Why does my being around matter? Not like I'd quick hammer. I win with the town, provided that mothrax dies.

[Chronopie]

So we're Lynching Stels, Smashing Shark, and, if the game doesn't end, I'm shooting mothrax tomorrow (assuming we both survive the night). rite?

[Chronopie]

@Furry | Nacho:

[Chronopie]

Shhhhhhhh, don't spoil his little game, Furry.

Not happy with being blatantly lied to. Would be funny if moth is scum though, just doubt it.

Well If mothrax flips scum, then will you believe that I've been telling the truth the whole time?

or would you rather continue to believe that I'm a 3p?

[Chronopie]

I know what we've been overlooking.

We were too tunneled on GF/RB/Watcher/Goon, thus we lynched dana.

Think GF/RB/INFO ROLE/Goon. Therefore Stels-neighbouriser is town, and one of Furry/Shark is not. The other will be mothrax, the last "VT." Thus we can all win together, when I shoot him tomorrow.

[Chronopie]

GAH. The janitoring of Quadz did NOT come from nowhere.

[Chronopie]

Jesus Chronopie, is that the 3rd different Avy for you today?

Same avy, different colour scheme. 20 seconds to change.

[Chronopie]

Here is a thought... Why do we have to give chrono his wincon to see if he is telling the truth?
Why not lynch stels and smash chrono. If he flips third party or scum that clears me. If he flips town lyncher go ahead and lynch me tomorrow. I wouldn't be suppressed if he flipped odd day sk or something of the sort.

Keep in mind he has done nothing but kill townies, and will kill another(me tomorrow) if he lives. The role is antitown at best.

Palmertrou, D5, Blue Scum. mothrax, D7, scum team unsure (probably also Blue).

and how many times do I have to say it?

Lyncher

-vig

[Chronopie]

/facepalm.

EBWOP:

Lyncher-Vig

[Chronopie]

I think that you'll flip scum because:

1) The fact that metaknight isn't a traditional "good" Character re: Kirby games

2) The fact that I am (mostly) town aligned, and having townie lyncher to townie is kinda... bastardy. (fyi: I don't leave the game once mothrax dies. Instead taking up purely a day-vig role.)

3) The universe theory that Stels came up with has merit.

[Chronopie]

I get the kill every odd day afaik. That includes once I deal with Metaknight. idk what happens if Metaknight dies w/out me, but I've been told that it's not good.

So yeah.

[Chronopie]

Wait. What? Stels claimed Blue Mafia OS neighbouriser, and then claimed Sharkfinn was Blue watcher? Am I missing something?

And claims that only a watcher can get someone's role name?!?

srsly confused here.

--

And now he votes Shark, claiming Shark is the sole scum, failing to take into account the fact that there were 3 kills last night, indicating members from both factions alive...

[Chronopie]

So the Quadz janitoring is a hidden mechanic, and a single scum can make two kills, with different kill flavours?!?

[Chronopie]

Different Characters have different Final smashes in game. rite? therefore different Smash flavour?

[Chronopie]

How come the Smash kills ALWAYS have a different flavor?! HMMMM???

WTF does Smash Flavor have to do with anything? It's only 1 Smashball per person, your logic is irrelevant Chrono.

You said that the smash flavour kept changing. The player smashing keeps changing... 1+1.

--

We've had input from everyone, so I no longer feel bad about:

Lynch Vote: Stels

[Chronopie]

Remember, stels has this inane theory that the last mafioso can make two kills. Which I don't buy.

--

8 players.

-stels
-shark?
-2xNK (if stels != scum)

4 players

-Lyncher/Vig
-Lynchee/"VT" (could be scum)
-Scum? (Depending on NKs)
-Scum? (Depending on NKs)

That's making me reluctant to shoot anyone, mothrax included...

WCS: No xkills, so both scum make it to tomorrow, leaving us in a pseudo-prisoner's dilemma.

--

14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate/Kirby

)

has had Smashball

20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)

has had Smashball

25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

has had Smashball

11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)

21. Chronopie: Snake (

Odd Day Vig

/Lyncher

)
22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)

1. mothrax: MetaKnight ('VT'/

Lynchee

)

18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

Double confirmed

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: I say pseudo-PD because I could still shoot someone other than mothrax, allowing the greater part of the town to win, while myself losing.

[Chronopie]

14. Nachomamma8: Pikachu (Mason w/

Fate/Kirby

)

has had Smashball

20. Furry: Sonic (Tracker)

has had Smashball

25. SharkFinn: Ness (Role Name Cop)

has had Smashball

18. Bunnylover: Ice Climbers (VT)

Double confirmed. Receiving Smashball.

11. Stels: Lucas (Town Neighborizer)

22. tanstalas: Zelda/Shiek (Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

)

21. Chronopie: Snake (

Odd Day Vig

/Lyncher

)
1. mothrax: MetaKnight ('VT'/

Lynchee

)

Clearly, Nacho has a very low chance of surviving, as being a confirmed-town mason means that he'd be dangerous in lylo.

Bunny is guaranteed to survive.

Scum will probably leave me alive, but that probably means leaving mothrax too. That's 3/4 slots. Therefore if mothrax = town, then there'll be a xkill.

ofc mothrax is probably scum...

That also assumes that each scum team pick a different target...

[Chronopie]

x.x

Right... Shouldn't be speculating about how the night is going to go out loud.

The way I see it, the scum will be whoever isn't myself/bunny/(mothrax)

[Chronopie]

Are you coaching/sending subtle hints to the other mafia team so that you guys target different people? I notice how you left Furry and I off this list, is that who you are targeting?

I'm a proven Day-Killer, Lyncher to a claimed VT, and admitted partially 3rd party. Now you call me scum?

If you were anything but a commuter, I'd be seriously considering you for scum. But I don't see commuter as a scum role in this game. (ofc I've

been

a scum commuter in the past)

And the reason I left you off was because I view you as town (for the reason above), but you're not confirmed. Furry I left off, because I think furry may be the

info role

that's unaccounted for.

--

P.Edit: I'm not hostile to the (majority of the) town, and if the game would end tonight, then I lose. The game wouldn't continue until I/mothrax dies. (I asked). I still think it's two scum left.

[Chronopie]

What mothrax just said.

hai thar

[Chronopie]

Stels is the lynchee of today, so no rope for me...

Enjoi bullet? (well rocket)

[Chronopie]

Im actually thinking that Furry is blue scum based on his own reasoning. It fits in that perspective.

Anyways smash me if you want. it's going to be a waste. The end.

I've been calling Furry scum for how many days?

Fate was still around when I started, I remember that much.

[Chronopie]

If Furry's scum, and wins due to (almost) everyone thinking he's town, I sooo called it.

[Chronopie]

Noted for future reference.

If I ever have another Lyncher-Vig role, claim purely vig.

[Chronopie]

Anyone got anything to say in the next 7 or so hours?

Any last words mothrax?

[Chronopie]

inb4omg

another

avy

I might just turn the 6 avy recolours into a cycling .gif

[Chronopie]

So far I've had Grey/Grey, Green/Lime, Orange/Yellow, and now Purple/Purple.

A Green/Purple, a Red/X? and a Blue/X? to go. (once I decide on X)

[Chronopie]

maybe blue/cyan?

but what to have with red...

[Chronopie]

NNNooooooooooooooooo........

I lost the game.

At some point the mod text will read (probably at end game), whether or not its a town win.

Chronopie, Snake the

Lyncher

-Vig

Lost the game

But yeah... I fail my wincon, but due to not actually having died, I'm not eliminated from play. I can still shoot. But what's the point?

[Chronopie]

We can also assume that Quadz was infact NOT red mafia, seeing as Sharkfinn was giving us that line, and was the janitor.

In which case there's one blue mafiate left. So SOMEONE on this list is a mafiate.

14. Nachomamma8 - Pikachu - Mason w/

Fate/Kirbyoshi

*

21. Chronopie

- Snake

- Lyncher

-Vig

(Failed)

18. Bunnylover - Ice Climbers - VT

*

22. tanstalas - Zelda/Sheik - Commuter/Rolegiver to

Link

According to the masons, they were fully confirmed town, so Nacho is cleared. I lost the game, as a confirmed-partially-third-party player. Bunny went nowhere when there was a kill, as per furry-tracker, as did Tans.

Nacho is not blue scum because he is mod confirmed town (duh)
Chrono is not blue scum because he is day killing (and neutral lyncher)
Tans is not blue scum due to being tracked nowhere N4 (last blue scum is rolled)
Bunny is not blue scum because he went nowhere N5 (I'm guessing he isnt ninja)

(This was before before he chose to string up Stels on ground that he was the last blue scum.)

I'm Pikachu, mason with Fate... Kirby is a Pokemon Trainer, mason buddy with Fate and I... And yes, we're confirmed.

(OFC neither Fate (not that he'd have had time nor motivation to) nor Kirby CONFIRMED what Nacho said about being confirmed town. But I'm going to accept it as true right now.)

--

SO EITHER: Tans or bunny is a ninja (not entirely unlikely), OR Furry was roleblocked, and given a no movement result. (We still had Blue roleblocker until D5, therefore Bunny may be scum) OR Nacho made up the conf. town thing, and Kirby's lurking stopped him from noticing and contradicting him.

--

I'm leaning Bunny or Tans, rather than Nacho, as being the last scum.

===

P.Edit: No...

I retain my vigging powers once metaknight dies.

And if metaknight dies by any hand other than my own, bad things happen [/paraphrase]

The bad thing was that I lost the game.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: Furry-RB'd so *TANS* (not bunny) may be scum

[Chronopie]

You know what would be insanely funny:

If both of you (or one of you + Nacho) were scum, and the only reason it's not over already is because I can still shoot.

--

So I shoot one, we (me/Nacho) lynch the other, and that's a town win. rite? (Except for Chrono - He has a sad.)

[Chronopie]

Nacho, I'll let you make the choice for which dies via vigging, and which gets lynched.

[Chronopie]

lol.

I could Vig nacho couldn't I?

That would be funny.

Really, this game could be riding on my shot. and I couldn't care less, as I've still lost either way.

[Chronopie]

The way I see it, there's probably one scum.

Nacho could be a Traitor Mason. After all, Kirby hadn't even noticed that we'd all claimed, so he may have missed Nacho lying about mod-confirmation.

Bunny or Tans could be a Ninja. (Maybe only Ninja every second night? i.e Shiek-Ninja + Zelda w/e?)

--

Either way, I'd like Nacho's input into this.

[Chronopie]

Maybe I'll just shoot nacho, for the lolz.

[Chronopie]

I want this game over.

So Bunny, vote Tans with me, I'll kill nacho, and if you're scum, then gj at fooling me.

[Chronopie]

DayKill: Nacho

Lynch Vote: Tanstalas

Town Vote: Chrono

Not that I'll need this, unless I'm wrong about Bunny being town.

Question: If all town are dead, (i.e Nacho and Tans are the last town), and I have the smash ball, thus bunny-scum would die, does the town win, as all scum are dead? (Seeing I'm nominally town, even though I'm also 3p))

[Chronopie]

Lynch Unvote

[Chronopie]

Wow, got an answer just in time

Asked mod if Nacho and Bunny were to die if you and I could declare a truce and get a tie. I wanted a tie for my sig yes I am the last scum =D

So shoot Nacho and then lynch Bunny with me - we both need to declare in thread that we agree that we want a tie afterwards though

A tie is better than a loss right?

So I kill Nacho, we lynch Bunny, and have a Scum/3p tie? Even though I failed to kill Metaknight? o.O

[Chronopie]

And Yes. I'm purely third party. Furry was right.

--

I like it. Shall we try that?

[Chronopie]

Tanstalas - Blue Scum

(What is your role btw?)

Chrono - Third Party

Bunny - Vanilla Townie

[Chronopie]

Hah.

That is funny.

Lynch Vote: Bunnylover

[Chronopie]

Bastard.

Lynch Unvote

Lynch Vote: Tanstalas

I don't have to kill Bunny to win though.

Should have expected that from scum.

[Chronopie]

Meaning it can be a town/3p draw, unlike a town/scum scum-win

[Chronopie]

So you'd rather submit to the vagary of a townie, than accept a scum/3P draw?

--

And I don't HAVE to kill bunny to win. (Although I'm not sure if I'd win at all, seeing as I didn't kill metaknight)

[Chronopie]

Town Unvote

Now we lynch Bunny and Draw?

[Chronopie]

Lynch Unvote

Lynch Vote: Bunny

[Chronopie]

Town Vote: Chrono

TV aren't resolved at lynch, but at L+24

[Chronopie]

So Draw.

[Chronopie]

Wow - I can't believe you fell for that >.>

I'm Scum - you expect me to be honest?

hehehehe

I'll be nice - Do you want to be SMASHED tonight or just plain NK'd?

If I'm wrong, I'd rather a plain NK.

[Chronopie]

Would you rather Draw now, or wait to see what the mods say?

btw: Until the mod picks up my PM, I can still cancel my Nacho kill.

Let Nacho play kingmaker?

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: In thread "Daykill" posts don't count.

[Chronopie]

So what's it gonna be? Agree to a draw now, or let nacho swing vote, possible giving a town/3P draw, as I don't need to kill him.

[Chronopie]

Actually... If I cancel the Nacho DK, it's not even Twi, as it would only be 2/4 votes cast...

[Chronopie]

So Nacho, Bunny: If either/both of you want to comment...

You aren't dead yet.

[Chronopie]

Right now the roles are:

Nacho - Mason - ALIVE

Bunny - VT - ALIVE

Tanstalas - Ninja - ALIVE

Chrono - Lynch-Vig (with a shot) - ALIVE

Your move Tans. Nacho Kill is on hold.

[Chronopie]

Recieve being the key for actions.

No pick-up = no kill.

Confirmed as of D5.

[Chronopie]

D5, I sent a mothrax kill, before mothrax pointed out that I'd used my "one" kill, when really I had a second kill available, due to unspecified awesomeness.

then I redacted the kill, and as a result, he didn't die. ofc If I'd have revealed I could place more than one kill on a given day, and I'd have been lynched immediately.

==

So basically, as per my PM, I can place more than one kill, under certain conditions, and it HAS to be via PM (in thread doesn't count). and it counts ONCE the mods pick it up, not before.

So really it never got to lynch.

[Chronopie]

EBWOP: It would have been a lynch once the mods saw my PM, and tallied the votes, but really it was still 2/4.

Want to reconsider the draw now?

[Chronopie]

So current Situation.

Votes

Bunny (2): Chrono, Tans
Not voting (

2

): Nacho, Bunny

Town Votes

Chrono (1): Chrono
Tans (1): Tans

Nacho and Bunny are not eligible to receive the smashball.

--

Your move.

[Chronopie]

We could No Lynch.

The townies could pile on top of anyone they choose and force a win either way.

We could agree to a draw.

Or we can lets the mods decide who, if anyone, gets the smash ball.

[Chronopie]

Actually, option 5: I change the kill to a Tans kill.

You die, the town wins.

final result:

[green]Town[/color]

3P

Blue

Red

[Chronopie]

Townies, I offer the same conditions that Tans was trying to work out. Namely: We Draw.

One Blue Scum dies, One town + 3P Draw for the win.

I'll kill the other townie, so I can't be taken to majority and lynched, and we lynch Tans.

as IF I were to kill Tans directly, it would be 2:1, and you guys would just lynch me.

Do we have a deal?

[Chronopie]

Tans, I still offer the Draw to you too, just reply before the townies do.

And no double crossing, we settle this like men.

[Chronopie]

Alternatively, We can no lynch, no smash, and see if the mods allow for a three-way tie?

[Chronopie]

Lynch Unvote

Lynch Vote: No Lynch

And I'm changing the kill.

[Chronopie]

I'm going out on a limb here, seeing as I'm not going to be on for about 16 hours.

No one Hammer anything yet. I want to see if we can work out a draw.

Seeing as both townies can no longer receive the smashball, they can play kingmaker, by giving it to either Scum, giving him two NKs, or the 3P (me) allowing for me to call a draw.

Lynch Unvote

Lynch Vote: Tans

Provisional kill is currently set on Nacho, with instructions that I have to confirm the kill/ automatically triggered if I would be lynched.

[Chronopie]

To Nacho, when you show up:

Tans is claimed Blue-Scum Ninja.

I'm admitted purely Third Party.

We both have self-voted for Smashball, seeing as you aren't eligible.

Hammer Tans, and we can draw, ft Town/3P win.

[Chronopie]

ftr: When The Master Hand picks up the PM, bunny died.

[Chronopie]

Lynch Vote: Tans

Town Vote: Chrono

I should've vigged Nacho, let bunny push you to lynch ftw.

--

Nacho, get back here, for three seconds, and hammer Tans kthx.

[Chronopie]

^Err... What?

I'm semi-V/LA guys.

--

FTR: I would have taken the tie Tans. I said that yesterday.

--

and Nacho can't get the smashball anyway.

Congratulations for hammering for no reason Nacho,

you just lost the game

... to an entire scumteam.

[Chronopie]

Why?

Why?!?

WHY?!?!?

Did Sharkfinn have to kill mothrax.

I had my final moves planned. Blow up mothrax, Shoot someone, Vote NL + TV myself, and smash the last of the three others. for the SK win.

--

Technicality-Fail on the final smashball.

[Chronopie]

First off, Chronopie, I thought that he did pretty well in this game. In other games, Chronopie is known to be very scummy and an lynch target in almost every game he's in (No offense intended). However, despite being lynch at end gamed, Chronopie's play is leaps and bounds better then what I saw in previous games. I'm hoping that he'll have more games like this, only better and if he can build off of this game in a positive way, I feel that he has the potential to be a great scum hunter. So Chronopie, next time you sign-up for a game, remember this one and put forth the very best effort you can.

Thanks. Proof that I play better when it's a role I enjoy. I like the SK role (even if it

is

my first go at one), because you have the benefits of being able to kill, while not having to risk giving away/getting dragged down by team mates. The thrill of outsmarting the town (re: Lyncher-Vig claim), insofar as they don't twig as to SK'ness.

The last day was a disappointment, mainly due to sharkfinn's last kill , and the Blue scum lost on a technicality.

All in all, a good, fun, game.

--

Seconded.

[Chronopie]

Thank Andy.

I also like how others helped my own Claim along.

Someone (don't remember who) asked about whether a

Lyncher

or Jester would end the game when they won.

Someone else checked the Tier list for a possible Metaknight/Snake connection, (I had already bookmarked the list, so I could point to it. Luckily I didn't have too.)

ofc I was gambling with Metaknight even being in the game at all, and crumbed early that I was looking for him.

[Chronopie]

</3 chrono.
He did play well this game though.

Sorry Socio.

OMGUS for Reck's Philly game. with extra death, and killinz, and stuff.

[Chronopie]

Yes, but otherwise, tans would have been the only person eligible for the Smash Ball.

Nacho won fair and square.

So Tans should have won.

ftfy