Super Smash Bros. Mafia! GAME OVER!!

[gandalf5166]

See Cross Edge Bastard Mod. We literally racked up a good 10 or 15 pages a day towards the beginning. And we only had 27 players. And yeah, it's an ongoing, but considering that I'm just saying that we post a lot, I don't think it's really an infraction.

[gandalf5166]

I don't understand the whole broken link suspicion. As far as I'm aware, everyone got a broken link. Correct me if I'm wrong? I ALSO don't get why everyone is freaking out about the town votes. Even if scum got the Smash Ball, they would be forced to use it in a pro-town way. Gollum, talk to the Ring, and act as if you and the ring are a joint force, i.e. Furry looks scummy, my precioussssssss. Also, Framm, I'm sorry about that game. I forgot about the game, and I accidentally removed it from my subscriptions instead of 971. I would post some content, but I've got to run. Will probably not be able to post again until about noon tomorrow CST.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, VOTE: Seth. That's just hilawrious.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, Fate's redaction has convinced me. I know what he's talking about, even though I can't see it. No one suspected this one person except for Fate, and Fate made it to where everyone had to lynch either him or his suspect. Good scumhunting there. Oh, and the person was scum. So,

Town Vote: Fate

[gandalf5166]

Well, I thought that I would be going to my dad's house for a week, where i would have a computer right next to my bed and way too much free time, but instead I'm at my grandpa's. There's no internet downstairs, and my dad works upstairs, so it's pretty much off limits upstairs. That said, I have managed to steal enough time to declare

V/LA until 8/19 at the latest

[gandalf5166]

Also, since I haven't been a part of the game so much, i feel obligated to say that if I had been around, I would have joined the diddin BW as well. I'm fairly confident that he'll flip scum.

[gandalf5166]

stels, try reading the thread. it has already been established that traitor was his alignment, not his role. Which is a large part of why we think there are two mafias. As in, the traitor mafia, and then another mafia.

[gandalf5166]

HE WASNT A TRAITOR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He was a member of the traitor mafia, which presumably has a completely different WC from the other mafia. Also, that was at like, the very beginning of the day. I doubt that that's where the kill came from.

[gandalf5166]

If you think about it, a traitor GF doesn't make sense anyways. The only reason that you don't recruit a traitor is that they'll investigate guilty once you recruit them. Also, I would consider it almost certain that there are two factions. I've never been in a game this big with only one mafia.

[gandalf5166]

Ummmmmmmmm I get back, and I read the thread?

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, cause you know, scum never bus.

[gandalf5166]

Actually, I would like to call for the town to lynch me. I cannot say more than that you don't want my role to stay alive. I'm pretty sure I'm the semi-bastard role.

Lynch Vote: gandalf5166

Town Vote: Nachomamma8

[gandalf5166]

I am not a jester or any kind of third-party, I am protown, and I'm saying that it's much better if my role gets lynched. I will say my role if everyone PROMISES that they will lynch me today.

[gandalf5166]

I'm Peach, the Beloved Princess. I thought about it over night, and the risk of me being NKed is too great. So I decided that me being lynched would be better. Now you're probably thinking that the end result is the same: a wasted day phase. But it's not. 1. If we lynch me, we can still pick a smash ball recipient. 2. You can still use the reactions to the claim to help find scum. By the way, mod said that some people MIGHT not like it. I'm pretty sure that everyone hates jesters.

[gandalf5166]

Even better, I could be day-vigged. Then, I still lose if I'm the jester. Plus, we preserve the day phase.

[gandalf5166]

I'm sorry, it seems I was not clear. If I am lynched, it is as if I was a VT. Nothing happens. We only lose a day if I'm Nked. That's why I would much rather I were lynched. Also, looking at my role PM, it doesn't say anything about day vigs. So........ probably not worth the risk.

[gandalf5166]

To clear up any jester concerns, think about it. Are there any SSB character's that would make any sense as jesters?

[gandalf5166]

No characters (afaik) fit a jester role. TBQH, I actually had (privately) speculated on Peach being a Beloved Princess role.

Nevertheless, Lynching a Beloved Princess is not the right call. We would be lynching a (near confirmed due to exclusively town role) townie, have the standard NK(s), and then lose another day for the funeral.

We would be far better off treating gandalf/Peach as conf. town, lynch someone scummy, and

possibly

having a doc protect Gandalf so we don't lose said days.

I guess...... But what if there is no doc? I guess mafia would still have to assume that there was. Hmmmmmm.....

[gandalf5166]

Yes, it specifically states, "This does not happen if you are lynched."

[gandalf5166]

Just so you know, judging by Framm's reaction to my claim, I am 80% sure he is scum.

[gandalf5166]

After reading his ISO, I change that to 90% sure.

[gandalf5166]

I'm starting to think that my lynch might be a bad idea. And by the way, exactly what's scummy about it is the whole, "I'm going to act uncertain that way when the town decides what is the smart decision, I can do that and not look like a sheep" mentality.

[gandalf5166]

I was talking about your reaction to my claim. Your ISO is scummy for totally different reasons. Mainly gut. Also, I didn't do this D1 because........ well, frankly, I hadn't really given much thought to the dangers of my role. The most I had thought was that I should never ever claim.

[gandalf5166]

I'm not saying I shouldn't have claimed. Claiming was definitely necessary. I would have to toe a fine line between not being too pro-town, or mafia would NK me, and being too null, in which case I probably would have been vigged. And I don't think I'm that good. My initial thought was wrong. I'm just saying that there are ways to prevent me from being NKed without lynching me. That said,

unvote

[gandalf5166]

I don't need to explain. Just look at his ISO. Also, forgot to switch my vote when I un-selfvoted. Also, just realized that thanks to the Smash Ball mechanic, in 3-player LyLo with a confirmed townie, town auto wins. As such, Nacho should be unvoted right now. Only unconfirmed, but still likely town should recieve the smash ball until LyLo.

UNTOWNVOTE:Nacho

LYNCHVOTE: Framm18

[gandalf5166]

Those voting Gandalf, keep in mind he could still be jester.

Looking at flavor, no I couldn't.

[gandalf5166]

Also, if I'm jester, I deserve to win anyways, for making such an awesome fakeclaim.

[gandalf5166]

I never said we should keep me alive until final three. I want town to decide if it's worth protecting me every night. Obviously, I'm biased. I'd like to live. But nacho should not be given the smash ball yet.

[gandalf5166]

Speaking of which,

Town Vote: Nacho

Agree with the general consensus that he deserves the smash ball.

Yes, but mechanics say that we shouldn't give it to him until later.

[gandalf5166]

I didn't mean later in the day, meant later in the game. >.<

[gandalf5166]

STELS NEEDS TO READ THE GODDAMNED THREAD. I already said that my Role PM specifically says that we do NOT lose a day if I am lynched. In other news, mongoose is scum too. He's over-justifying his vote. I'm not sure if Stels is scum or just lazy/stupid.

[gandalf5166]

If I am night-killed in any way, my role still takes effect. And Fate, get a brain. Can you find a character that would make sense as a jester? If you do, please tell me.

[gandalf5166]

Why the hell would mafia claim a role that was 80% likely to get them Lynched?

[gandalf5166]

To be honest, I'm doubt that I would have thought to claim BP if I was a jester. However, if I ever am a jester, I'll make sure to do it, as it really is perfect.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, look at it from this perspective. If I was a jester. Let's first assume that I'm telling the truth about my rolename. Peach would definitely not be a jester. So I would have to be lying about my rolename. Now, as far as I'm aware, jesters don't get faleclaims. But if I did, what are the chances that I would get the one fakeclaim that makes it impossible for town to lynch me? From a balance perspective, that almost guarantees me a win. I doubt that that would have been the case.

[gandalf5166]

No, I would not survive the night under any circumstances, barring a doc. There are multiple scum groups. Also, how many time do I have to say that we only lose a day if I'm NKed? Also, for the last time, why the hell would scum make a claim like this?

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, whether or not we lynch me is out of the question. We can debate over whether me claiming was a good idea, but it's really too late for that. Now that the town has weighed in, I'll

Lynch Vote: Gandalf

BTW, I am kind of pissed that I got this role. I'll definitely continue reading post-death.

[gandalf5166]

Okay, bunny is scum too.

[gandalf5166]

Gut. This is why I don't consider my lynch a waste of a day. It may be guaranteed to be a mislynch, but it produces some really good content anyways. For example, Fate is most likely town based on his response.

[gandalf5166]

Wait.

You claimed beloved princess because you thought lynching you was the most protown move.

But now Fate is town for saying we shouldn't lynch you.

Wut?

I understand the reason for doubt. I'm not saying "OMGZ IF U DONT LINCH ME YOU IS SCUMZ!!!!!!". What I DON'T think is pro-town is acting like we wouldn't want to lynch me even if I was telling the truth, or saying that it doesn't matter if I'm telling the truth, we don't want to lynch me anyways. Doubt is to be expected. In other words, it's reads vs. setup speculation.

[gandalf5166]

Yeah, so I was telling the truth. Good luck town!

[gandalf5166]

Oh, forgot about twilight.

[gandalf5166]

I think mongoose should get the vig, personally.

[gandalf5166]

True. Vigs are generally better for null reads.

[gandalf5166]

MY ROLE SUCKED

[gandalf5166]

Yes, but otherwise, tanst would have been the only person eligible for the Smash Ball. Nacho won fair and square.

[gandalf5166]

Yes, but that was the purpose of the rule, was so that you weren't forced into giving one person the SB just because everyone else had already gotten it.