Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Nikanor]

How bastardly is slightly bastardly?

[Nikanor]

Vote: Fate.

You can't stop meeeee

[Nikanor]

Unvote. Vote: Ythan.

Srs scum is srs.

[Nikanor]

I fail to see how JABOC is scummy.

mothrax, you realise that Ythan was an sk in the last game, right?

[Nikanor]

Ythan played differently last game, I will need to watch him.

Did you not elaborate because it's not true?

This one?

It's funny because Ythan is scum in both of the games mothrax is talking about.

[Nikanor]

I thought he was talking about Reck's Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mad Mind. I was talking about that and this one.

[Nikanor]

Town:
JABOC
Mafuyu
Chesskid
Lambda
DTM

Scum:
mothrax
evilpacman
Ythan
Fate?

I'd like to point out that Ythan has gone from saying, "Flavour is unimportant, so we shouldn't believe claims based on roles," to "His flavour is sub-par," with nobody but me noticing.

I DO IN FACT HAVE SANE ROLE INFORMATION THAT CHESSKID IS TOWN.

Let's lynch Ythan or mothrax instead.

I'm keeping my vote on Ythan, but if people start to pile onto mothrax I'll be glad to switch.

chesskid: Please don't suicide tonight. Your ability will be much more useful post-MC. If you absolutely must suicide tonight, then do so on Cupcake and DTM.

[Nikanor]

@Nik: I don't disbelieve that chess is town. I just dont trust him to use his role in a pro-town way. IMO, its a very swingy role that could likely hurt us more than help us.

Are you scum? Because I have no idea how a townie would get off on lynching someone that he thinks is town.

[Nikanor]

BE, I think you're forgetting that it is possible for him to vanillaize scum as well. The longer we wait, the better our chances at him hitting scum. That's why I want him to wait until later to suicide.

[Nikanor]

If so, Nik could present the snippet that somehow clears chess, which theoretically shouldn't reveal too much information about Nik. Mafuyu's interested in how it's phrased, and why Nik has disappeared more or less since. Obviously he'd probably still be able to lie, but it's more food for thought to listen and sift through.

I've been gone for a couple of hours and suddenly I'm disappeared? Anyway, I assume that I could post a snippet of my role PM, but the rules say that I'm not allowed to post any other communication from the mod, and my information came after my role PM.
I can tell you that I got my information during the day and not during night zero, but that's about it.

[Nikanor]

Fate, if you were less scummy then I'd be less inclined to call you scum.

And I don't think I've ever claimed an innocent on town as scum, so I'm kind of curious about where that [redacted] stuff came from.

[Nikanor]

Your FACE would be fairly symmetrical.
Anyway you forgot to put chess and Cupcake on your town list. Put them on there and take off BE and you have my town list.

Why are you so fast to call ABR town, Kai? Are you confusing him with someone else? I can't see where you drew any conclusions about ABR's opinions (other than his terrible suspicion of chesskid) from his posts.

[Nikanor]

I'm guessing Kokiri is the verdant race.
Why did you not claim reflex, Zwet?
If Cupcake is claiming Nayru then I'm pretty sure she's town, what with the "rid the land of evil" flavour and all.

[Nikanor]

Ythan, as you can see in that handy picture, Nayru is blue. Now I don't know about you, but I think that everyone has a modifier to their race (aquatic, verdant, etc). It would make the most sense for a BLUE goddess to be associated with WATER, no?
Please try to think before your next post please. You're going from "Flavour means nothing. Scum can have whatever roles," to "Your flavour is weak, therefore you are scum," seamlessly. If we can post our role PMs, scum most definitely have fake role PMs. The way you're going about your attack on Cupcake is scummy.
And people wonder why I want you lynched.

[Nikanor]

Ythan, if you can provide me with another elemental modifier that makes sense for Nayru, I'll believe that you have good intentions here. I've always associated wisdom (Nayru's domain) with water, so that's why I believe the claim.

[Nikanor]

So what you're telling me is that you don't actually have an alternate suggestion for Nayru's element and you're just opposing me because I think the claim makes sense. Gotcha.

[Nikanor]

Here's what happened. He claimed Nayru, x goddess. You're complaining that I can't come up with something better to fill the x slot. Even though the entire claim is bullshit and there's no reason to believe the format is valid.

chesskid claimed Aquatic Zora. That's kind of redundant, but it's there anyway. Zwets claimed that his ability does not affect Verdants. Those two pieces of information combined with the fact that our mods are not the sort to let roles go uncategorized (I'm thinking CEBM here, specifically) lead me to the conclusion that everyone has an element.
The mod's flavour post for when Cupcake was targeted by the daykill earlier today brings up mental images of Zelda's neutral B attack, Nayru's Love, in the Super Smash Brothers series. Being bulletproof AND making chickens dissolve into tiny blue particles is exactly what I'd expect of Nayru's role.
Why do you not think that the goddesses are in this game, by the way? They were kind of a big deal in the games, iirc.

[Nikanor]

Saying that I'm reaching does not make it true. For a game this large the mods have to stretch for flavour a little bit. I don't see how Nayru is that out-there of a claim.
It would be nice if you could answer me why you don't think the goddesses would be in the game.

[Nikanor]

So you have no reason to doubt the claim other than that you think Cupcake is scum, whereas I'm looking at the claim with an unbiased eye. I sure hope that everyone else can see that I'm spewing more rational thought than you are.

[Nikanor]

My ability isn't really susceptible to shifts. I think they took the most imbalanced role out of all of their games, reviewed it slightly, and gave it to me. Except that even after the review it's still completely imbalanced.

Anyway, even if Cupcake

is

fakeclaiming (which I doubt), she would no doubt have a fake town role PM to claim, courtesy of the mods. If you think that our mods are so incompetent as to have not provided the scum with fake role PMs when at the same time they allow role PM quoting, then you should probably not be playing in this game. I'll also mention the fact that using Nayru as a fakeclaim when you don't have a fake role PM to draw from is absolutely fucking insane, and I don't think that Le Cupcake has the balls for that.
That is why Ythan's case on Cupcake for "fabricating a role PM" is complete and utter garbage.
Now, personally I think that Nayru would not be contained to a scum's fakeclaim in this game. This game's flavour is about ridding the land of evil, and the goddesses are always involved in that feat, for as much as I understand LoZ. Therefore it makes the most sense to me for Nayru to be town. Does that not make sense to you people?

[Nikanor]

Ythan, do you think that our mods would have provided fake role PMs for the scum? Yes or no, please.

[Nikanor]

Ythan, you said yourself that the mods have claimed that this game is unbreakable by flavour. Would that not include giving fake role PMs to scum? Busting scum on not knowing that the town's wincon is Hero or not knowing that the town's role names are in blue is not even remotely close to what I would call unbreakable. That's why I think that scum have fake role PMs.
By extension, something that could be considered scummy in most games (stalling on claiming flavour) is more town-like in this situation. Scum would be eager to post as great a fakeclaim as Nayru, the bulletproof aquatic goddess. On the other hand, town would be hesitant in claiming a bulletproof role, because it is such a powerful role for town to have and loses much of its power on claiming.
Of course, all of this relies on our mods not being "bumbling oafs," as Ythan seems to believe, but I hope that the rest of you can see why I think that Cupcake is town.

[Nikanor]

It's a good thing you're not actually addressing the point I made about Cupcake. That would just be unYthanlike. I don't think I could deal with Ythan actually addressing a point of mine. My head may very well explode.

[Nikanor]

By extension, something that could be considered scummy in most games (stalling on claiming flavour) is more town-like in this situation. Scum would be eager to post as great a fakeclaim as Nayru, the bulletproof aquatic goddess. On the other hand, town would be hesitant in claiming a bulletproof role, because it is such a powerful role for town to have and loses much of its power on claiming.

You skipped an entire paragraph, probably deliberately. I don't actually care about your opinion on it, but I'd like for everyone to know that Ythan has been skipping over the best content of my posts to make it look like he's actually addressing the points when he is not.

[Nikanor]

Lambda is town.
Cupcake is town.
Can we move on now? Is the rest of the town completely unwilling to see Ythan's scumminess?

[Nikanor]

No, Gandalf. I don't even know the guy.

[Nikanor]

That would be ZONEACE, the man with an enthralling iso.

[Nikanor]

Also, did you ever answer the question about what else the blue particles could be if not Nayru's Love?

Remember who was it that said "Blue particles, must be Nayru's Love!" even though that is not at all how it functions in the game? Because I know it wasn't the player who claimed Nayru.

And Ythan waltzes around another question. The crowd goes wild for this outstandingly pro-town behaviour.

Mafuyu wants to see what your involvement in the Ythan-Cupcake-LLD triangle is.

I believe I've made my position quite clear. Are you not reading my posts or something?

[Nikanor]

@Mods: Prods on these people, please:
1. Untrod Tripod
6. Kairyuu
21. Jenniwren
22. Substrike22

[Nikanor]

I can't see the scum motivation for the inconsistency between the heads of GIS.

[Nikanor]

Unvote: Ythan

As much as I hate doing that, I can't see any way for him to be lynched today. Maybe tomorrow,

when

if people realize that activity and aggression are null-tells for most experienced players, including Ythan.

Vote: ZONEACE.

Clearly that is the best wagon.

[Nikanor]

1. CEBM, which you were in, had no fakeclaims of any kind.
2. You really think that ALL THREE goddesses would be town? Not a single one would be a fakeclaim?

1. CEBM didn't allow the pasting of role PMs. That's really the key reason for my belief that scum have fake role PMs.
2. Yes.

I don't see how Substrike is a better lynch than ZONEACE, as ZA is obviously scum, but whatever. We have five days left and I'm already not getting my preferred lynch, so I'll just sit back and watch y'all lynch GIS without my help if it's all the same to you.

[Nikanor]

Lies and deceit. I myself posted my Role PM in CEBM. Scum had no fakeclaims, and several scum were caught by that. Manho, SC and vezok, to name a few. That said, dram probably learned his lesson.

Yeah well I was killed in the first 24 hours of the game so excuse me for not knowing that.

All ZONEACE has given is "I'll catch up, sorry for being absent" posts, which is a good indicator for scum. diddin's posts are less than town themselves. He FoS's chesskid because JABOC is scummier, but then forgets that he thinks JABOC is scummier, because otherwise he would have mentioned JABOC when he unvoted and voted for chesskid. It just looks like opportunistic scum hopping around on wagons.

[Nikanor]

Le Cupcake (3): Substrike22, Ythan, Untrod Tripod
Lady Lambdadelta (3): Kairyuu, GandalfIzSik, BE
GandalfIzSik (9): KDub, zwetschenwasser, RayFrost, Fate, ABR, Le Cupcake, Lady Lambdadelta, Exilon, bunnylover
Substrike22 (4): Hinduragi, chesskid3, DTMaster, JABOC

That's where we currently stand, wagon-wise.
I'd advise GIS to claim now, as I don't think we'll have enough time to build another wagon if he waits on the claim. I don't want him lynched, but this is probably the only way we're going to get to lynch somebody else.

Unvote. Vote: Substrike.

To that end, I'm changing my vote to Substrike and leaving it there.

[Nikanor]

ITT Beefster thinks that everyone is scum.

[Nikanor]

Unvote. Vote: Gandalf.

That's ten out of fourteen votes. I'd like to see a lynch today, if at all possible. I don't really think he's scum, but he seems intent on not saving himself with my advice, so I don't seem to have a choice if I want a lynch today.

And since it doesn't look like Lambda is going to claim this, even though I fucking told her in pre-game to do it before day ended,

Lady Lambdadelta is

Din, Paranoid Gun Owner

.

Please don't ask me any questions on that subject, because I will ignore them.

[Nikanor]

Non-voter is more likely to be town. From a setup design perspective, making the town

more

powerful in a vanillaless game by giving scum a non-voter makes no sense. Making them less powerful by giving them a non-voter does, however.

[Nikanor]

Also, there's probably a lot of scum in this game, just because our mason group is overpowered as hell. There's a reason for why Lambda said that there are two scumteams.

[Nikanor]

For future reference GIS (I'm saying this because I assume you both want to improve your play), I recommend not waiting until the very last day before deadline to claim. Now we have no choice but to lynch you.

You are unaffected by normal kills.

Pointing this out for later

Also pointing out that Ythan doesn't unvote despite supposedly accepting the mason claim.

[Nikanor]

Ok... i could hammer right now if people wanted me to. However... let the record be known that i would MUCH rather lynch LLD or Cupcake because both are more scummy, and are more likely to be scum

You are scum.

I claimed that Lambda was a PGO because some idiot would undoubtedly try to inspect her or, even worse, vig her. I believe that claiming was for the best.
Can we please have more votes on GIS right now?

[Nikanor]

Beefster, Cupcake, Lambda and I are alignment-confirmed masons.

[Nikanor]

Where did I supposedly accept the claim because I missed it. More of Nikanor trying to twist my posts.

lol

One more vote to hammer GIS, please.
I'm not really interested in making this thread any longer. -_-

[Nikanor]

Oh you.

[Nikanor]

We are town, and exactly what we claimed. Good job scum *looks at the "masons"*

I fucking told you that the only way you weren't getting lynched was to NOT wait until the very last day before deadline to claim, and what do you do? You claim the day before deadline. If you don't want to follow my advice, don't blame me for your lynch. I did want Substrike lynched instead of you, but you wouldn't cooperate. Now whose fault is that?

[Nikanor]

Do you have day talk with your neighbors, Substrike?

[Nikanor]

I may have had something to do with UT's death.
@Chronopie & Substrike: Do you suspect any of your neighbors? If so, who are they? Don't worry about revealing roles; Neighbor Sleeper is ridiculously weak so you're not giving anything away.

[Nikanor]

Because Chronopie and Substrike, if town, should have been attacking at least one or two of the neighbors. If they were not attacking at least one of their neighbors, they are scum. It would give me a much better read on two of the main lynch candidates of the day.

[Nikanor]

merely a reveal that the person is one of the neighbors in question.

That's what I meant.

Chronopie: Yes you do. If you find somebody in your neighbor group suspicious, you should not hesitate to claim that they are your neighbor. It's that, or be lynched. Your choice.

[Nikanor]

The only part of this idea that I haven't completed is the point threshold. Nikanor, help me out here. I'm trying to figure out a number that'll limit the ability of scum to manipulate this. Any thoughts?

That doesn't help, because I want to know who Chronopie and Substrike find most suspicious, not who the rest of the town finds suspicious.

[Nikanor]

I'm fine with you getting who they think is most suspicious, but why should they reveal who the neighbors are at this time? I don't see either of them as particularly trustworthy on the scale of AccurateReadsTM. If you are just asking about their scumspects, then neighbor or not is rather unimportant. It won't change how flimsy / strong their cases are.

You're missing the point.
When a townie looks at a group of six neighbors that are specifically marked as unconfirmed neighbors, he thinks, "Oh gee, there's probably scum in this neighbor group!"
A mafioso might not share that thought process.
That's why I want them to claim if they suspect any of their neighbors, and if yes, who they suspect out of that pool. It has nothing to do with me actually trusting their reads, but rather me trying to get a read on them.

[Nikanor]

If they find someone in their group scummy, they will (hopefully as town) inform us.

That's what I want them to do. If they fail to find anyone in their group scummy, they are scum.
Scum have more of a motivation to attack people who are not in their neighbor group, because they want to unlock their powers instead of lynch scum. Town want to unlock their powers too, but that isn't as strong a motivator as lynching scum.

Heck Hascow warned us in invite 7 that he wanted to break from the scum in the neighbourhood group. It's still possible (but getting unplausable) that all of them are town aligned. (recall my earlier question to that sage group that I wanted them to discuss amongst themselves).

This isn't about what is true about scum in the neighbor group. This is about WHAT THEY THINK is true. If they haven't been attacking a neighbor, they are scum. It is that simple. If they have been attacking a neighbor, it doesn't mean that they aren't scum, but it does mean that they are more likely to be town.

@Everyone: If you don't believe the mason claim, vote for me instead of Cupcake or LLD. They have better roles than I do.

[Nikanor]

What you are saying makes no sense nik. Yes, there is more likely than not scum amongst the neighbors, but to say that that means they have to attack each other to be town...

Town neighbors will be operating under the assumption that some of their neighbors are scum, and their suspicions will reflect that. Scum neighbors (bad scum who don't know how to act like town as a neighbor, anyway), will be operating under the assumption that their neighbors are town, because they already know who the scum is in their neighbor group.

This is so WIFOM. You're reaching.

OR MAYBE THEY WANT ME TO THINK THEY'RE SCUM, SO THEY AREN'T ATTACKING ANYONE IN THEIR NEIGHBOR GROUP.
Idiot.

[Nikanor]

Exilon, at what time did you send in your inspection? Check your outbox and give me an exact time and date, please.

If you are scum fakeclaiming, then I want to make one thing clear to everyone:

We are not lynching Lady Lambdadelta today or any other day. We are not lynching Le Cupcake today or any other day. Their lynches are off the table. They have rolled off of the table and onto the floor. The only mason whose lynch is anywhere close to the table today is me.

Thanks and stuff.

we are falling into the meta trap surrounding neighbors

That's the thing. If they're town, they will have fallen into the meta trap because they are Chronopie and Substrike. Your point on GIS is invalid, because they were lynched for being bad players. In this case, we get to see if Chrono and Substrike are scum because they are bad players.

Yes, Ythan was the one who mentioned every boss being a miller.

[Nikanor]

Actually, I don't know why I'm still lying, but I'm not actually a day cop (obv obv). Farore flavour doesn't mesh with day cop anyway. I just wanted to stop the chesskid wagon before it went to a lynch.
That said, unless you think that Kairyuu was lying about a shift (and I don't see any reason for why he would), I think there is a Day Ozmodiar. There are four day actions confirmed or claimed (cucco daykill, cucco voteblock, Kai's rollout, Exilon's inspection), so I don't see why there wouldn't be an ozmodiar that only works in the day. There is most likely no ozmodiar that works during the night, at least.

In any case

Vote: mothrax.

He's scummy anyway, and I believe both that there is a shift and Exilon's investigation.

I don't care about the neighbor claim thing to argue it against everyone. I've done that enough this game. This is just another example of me being right and others not understanding, and quite frankly I'm tired of dealing with it. /wrists

[Nikanor]

She activated it as soon as day one started. Either the shifter has to be activated (for instance, if he chooses the number of shifts), or Cupcake's ability resolves first, or both.

[Nikanor]

Actually, looking back at stuff, here's what happened with the shift:
- [6. Kairyuu] used ROLLOUT on [13. Ythan]
- The ROLLOUT aimed at [13. Ythan] gets redirected -13 spaces to [0. Reckamonic]
- [7. Exilon] used INSPECT on [19. Lady Lambdadelta]
- The INSPECT aimed at [19. Lady Lambdadelta] gets redirected -13 spaces to [6. Kairyuu]

Kairyuu is a claimed Boss-miller. Yeeeeep.

Oh well. I still like my vote on mothrax.

[Nikanor]

zwetschenwasser, two things: a) Kairyuu was replaced by Beefster a while ago, and b) If you thought that Kairyuu was lying about his miller claim, you should have voted him sooner.

[Nikanor]

I really truly doubt that there is a shift at night.

@Kdub: Ozmodiar is a role that causes actions to shift down or up the playerlist by x spaces.

Beefster: If you use your ability on someone without a wagon, the mods will simply tell you that you can't use it on someone with no votes and you'll get to try again.

[Nikanor]

While you're at it you should ask our mods for a vote count.

[Nikanor]

Beefster: Try using your ability first on BE then on nameloc. The BE shot should hit nameloc if it's still -13 and remove all those dumb extra votes, or it should hit BE and affect Cupcake, which shouldn't affect Cupcake at all.

[Nikanor]

Nik: your point on sages being scum if they have not attacked another sage is pure shite. There is a block of players of which the majority is probtown. At this point in the game there are bigger scum to fry than those with possible sleeper prs.
Your insistence on lynching you over the others has also been noted.

Somebody's a scum neighbor.

[Nikanor]

Lambda, read Exilon in iso. He started acting as if he had a guilty on you from before you claimed PGO. I doubt he's lying.

[Nikanor]

If that's the case, Chrono, then why are you opposed to revealing who in the neighbor group you find scummy?

[Nikanor]

Actually, let's do it this way: Everyone in the neighbor group, claim in your neighbor QT the names of the people who you think are scum, only out of the people in your neighborhood.
If one of the neighbors fails to produce or gives crappy reasoning or has only shown suspicions of that person now that I'm asking about it, I would appreciate a town neighbor coming forward with that information.
Now there's no reason to not carry through with this plan, since it doesn't reveal anything to the scums who already know everything anyway. Chronopie, you're in charge of making sure this gets done and telling me when it is done and the results.

[Nikanor]

Someone die and make you general? I don't like that we're just buying this mason claim when LLD has been seen as scummy and then Exilon comes forth with info that he has a guilty read on her. I think we should give Beefster his chance to identify a shift, it'll give us confirmed and usable information.

You're going to do what I tell you to do, because if you don't, it's your funeral. Just think of this as an opportunity to find scum. You can do that, can't you?
If you can give me a reason to not do exactly as I said, do so. Otherwise, you'll follow my instructions and be damned happy I'm here to walk you through this game. Understood?

It is pretty likely that there was a shift yesterday. If the shift was -13, as we suspect, then Exilon's investigation hit a claimed miller.

How in the fuck does this say that Fate flipped SK, especially when he's the same team as another person? I'm really just not understanding how you all came to such a completely stupid conclusion. There's no evidence that they are SK. We don't have role PMs just from this.

BUT EXILON CLAIMED BOSS-COP.
AND FATE FLIPPED A BOSS, SCUM.
THAT MEANS HE WAS SK RITE.

[Nikanor]

... please tell me you're joking.

Please.

I don't joke about mafia. It is serious business.

Yes of course I am joking. They were obviously mafia. Unless every other boss claims miller and Exilon flips scum I'm going to go ahead and assume that Fate and JABOC were boss-scum and that boss-scum is yellow.

[Nikanor]

In that case perhaps the first three bosses (Gohma, Dodongo, Barinade) are truly millers and the others (Phantom Ganon, Volvagia, etc, Twinrova) are not.

Said the guy who dislikes flavour spec.

[Nikanor]

Where did I say I dislike it. Oh right I didn't you don't know what you're talking about.

I knew there was a reason for why I started ignoring you.

[Nikanor]

Hey Chrono and Substrike, are you doing what I told you to do?

[Nikanor]

Beefster, do this:

ROLLING ATTACK: X's wagon

ROLLING ATTACK: Y's wagon

ROLLING ATTACK: Z's wagon

etc, from order of most preferred to least. Hopefully that will get this over with.

[Nikanor]

I'd like BE or ABR to be inspected. That would mean he'd target ABR or Hinduragi, respectively.

[Nikanor]

A boss-cop investigating someone in the neighborhood of non-bosses is dumb. Don't inspect Substrike because you'll get a result of not-boss regardless of his actual alignment.

Investigating me is a bad idea as well, unless you think the boss-scum had five members in a game that very likely has more than one scum team.

[Nikanor]

Chesskid is not a good vig target at all. He is very likely town. Kdub, on the other hand, is a great vig target.

vezok is probably town.

Chronopie, can you please make a list of all the sages (by their role name instead of player name, obviously) with the results of the thing I asked of you guys? Substrike could do it himself if he wants super town points.

Also Ythan has the most posts

Orly

[Nikanor]

Well that's annoying. You guys really need to start using your QT more. Treat it like a 6p game of mafia. You all like mafia, don't you?

[Nikanor]

You fucking moron. You actually inspected the guy who was a CONFIRMED SAGE i.e. NOT A BOSS? I'm glad we wasted all that time for you to botch another inspection.

[Nikanor]

Also, I don't get the "Aikage must claim" sentiments. If he's going to screw us over with role actions, he'd have already had a night to do that.

Unvote. Vote: Substrike.

I'm not sure what that puts him at, but I'm ready to end the day now.

[Nikanor]

Bunnylover:
Based on the fact that Exilon's role specifically finds BOSS-SCUM and not just regular scum, I am assuming that there are two scum teams.
I am saying that Exilon is an idiot for inspecting Substrike because Substrike has claimed a Sage. This can be confirmed by five other people, so I doubt it is true. Do you remember a Sage-boss in OoT? No? That means that Substrike is not part of the boss-scum. Are you following me? It's about to get difficult here, and I want to make sure you have your brain wrapped around this crazy concept.
Just because Substrike is not of one scum team does not mean that he is not of another scum team.

Preview edit: He's role-confirmed. Confirmed to be a sage.

[Nikanor]

Snitching could be closer to another player getting duplicate results.

[Nikanor]

Well fuck me sideways

Don't mind if I do.

Beefster is not a mason. That statement was addressed to him and I made a grammar mistake.

P-Edit: Coolio. Exilon gets even more town points.

[Nikanor]

Exilon how do you figure a -10 shift makes sense?

/WRISTS

[Nikanor]

Wasn't there a theory that had the first three bosses as town?

[Nikanor]

Scum targeting Exilon makes no sense, though.
Oh well. We can figure this out come MC.

[Nikanor]

Also, I love that Exilon's guilty verdict has just slipped into the back of conversation. We have a guilty verdict on someone who's claiming to be a mason, and talks of potential shifts aside, no one else finds that worth discussing? I've tried several times to bring it up. I love that we're taking bully-nik, random flavor spec LL, and flaky-as-me Cupcake at their words as masons with a guilty read "on" one of them. No, you're right, let's just lynch an inactive lurker and leave the town with just as little information today as we had yesterday.

It's hard to not be a bully when I have to explain everything five fucking times.
THERE IS A SHIFT. EXILON'S INSPECTION HIT KAIRYUU, THE CLAIMED BOSS-MILLER. MAYBE IF YOU WEREN'T LURKING AT THE TIME WE DISCUSSED THIS TWO WEEKS AGO, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION. WE ARE NOT GETTING BACK INTO THIS.

Unvote. Vote: Kdub.

Like srsly.

[Nikanor]

Substrike, are you not reading the thread? I have said multiple times that there is probably more than one scumteam.

AKR and Beefster are being really scummy. Beefster should probably be lynched somewhere down the line.

[Nikanor]

PLUSHIE: "Shut the fuck up!"

That was just rude!

Unvote. Vote: BloodErection

[Nikanor]

I'm not a vig. I am Farore. The nature of my role, if not my role itself, should be obvious to anyone who knows the least bit about Farore.

I don't really want to read anything. I still want BE dead.

[Nikanor]

There is probably a lot of info in the early wagon on JABOC.
Just putting that out there so that someone else can do the work.

[Nikanor]

We're lynching him today regardless of what he claims, but I still do want him to claim.

[Nikanor]

I've claimed that I'm not a vig. I did not generate a kill at night. What more do you want me to claim?

AKR's Aikage vote is scummy.

[Nikanor]

It was only bad after I was dead.

[Nikanor]

Lambda: Stop using so many ellipses. People find it very scummy.

Do people actually think this? I use this tell but I've never seen anyone else.

I use it, otherwise I wouldn't have said that.
Most people will find ellipses-users scummy, whether they're conscious about it or not.