Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[mothrax]

Awww, I missed RVS? really? Fine then...

JaOC- Overdeffensiveness is scummy. Your play is scummy. Calling attention to yourself on page 2 of a game like that (the way that you did) is scummy. Your serious vote was based on nothing, and to top it off, you have done no scumhunting yet even though you want RVS to be over.
Conclusion: Scum

Ythan played differently last game, I will need to watch him.

other than that, I see little to comment on.

Vote: Just a little Off-Center

[mothrax]

I meant that I see less ad hom and less picking fights with players, though it could be that the main ad hom target and the main fightee are not players in this game.
Nik: yes I know that. It doesn't rule out scum though.

[mothrax]

dammit do you guys never sleep? 2 new pages in 5 hours and most of it is Ythan/Chess bickering... I am having RMMMMM flashbacks and I wasn't even in that game D1.
Chess plays like this... at least in [redacted]. It is his "new meta". annoying as hell, but more VI than anything. If fate or drmy weren't in this game I would call Alt, but I am not sure at this point.

[mothrax]

Fate, I meant that he is like you in that he is overaggressive and has a "better than thou" attitude. He is like drmy in that he is just plain VIish. That being said, lets leave him to the vig if there is one...

[mothrax]

10 pages in the time I was in class omgezzles... Chess, I don't really care what your alignment is at this point. You need to not be in this game. Ythan is being Ythan and making kids run and cry, that I am used to, but at least that other person tried to be civil and fight back without flying of the handle and being redic.
VOTE: Chesskid
For the aforementioned reasons. I would rather he be dayvigged so we don't lose the day, but since I don't see that happening...

inb4youtellmetocomeupwithorriginalcontent

[mothrax]

MS.
And you unvoting is odd.
You have been pushing this all day, for the better part of 15 vpages and you unvote at L-1. Why?

[mothrax]

Wasn't directed at you, but thanks.
unvoting at L-1 in that situation does not town points get.
I am really tired of people who play this game in concretes (general statement). Everything is situation, especially when players can exploit site meta.
In this situation, there are definately no town points for Ythan.

[mothrax]

I agree that chess is best kept around. With nik confirming him and the fact that he can hit scum roles later, I don't see an issue with letting him live.
I like how I am on several peoples scum list with no reasons behind it. Also, fate, I'm hurt. .
Will unvote and have a bigger catchup when Im not on my phone/in class.

[mothrax]

Unvote
V/LA untill sunday evening

I will catch up when I get back.

[mothrax]

Was prodded, though I was V/LA.

through last night. Didnt have time to get a post up.
The ythan/LL argument is mostly worthless and I agree with sub that it has really done nothing but confuse the shite out of me. I can't even figure out who is arguing what at this point, since in all of their circular logic they seemed to agree with eachother on some thing, though they did keep yelling.
I will have a longer post up when I am on my computer, and I have a chance to reread.

[mothrax]

cupcake full claim plox. The flavor speculation argument between the two and a half of you is getting really old really quick. The game needs flips.

@Mods: I unvoted chesskid in my iso 9
Vote: Le Cupcake

[mothrax]

Itt the schizoid softclaims nktarget...

[mothrax]

18. mothrax - scum

I've said it before and I will say it again: on what grounds?
All I have seen is "lol mothrax is scum" and the like.
Case or gtfo.

[mothrax]

also:

Unvote; Vote Blooderection

obvsheep is obv.

[mothrax]

Diddin - feels like a scumslip. http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2551117 Well.. if he really was scum there.

Cupcake
-Curious as to why he didn't explain why he voted Diddin. wonder if it was the same reason why i would vote him.

Nikanor
-post 68, why is Ythan scummy?

ythan
-feels townie at page 3.

ABR
-confused as to why you did not weigh in on what was going on during page 4?

Lady Lambdadelta
-Why did you ask to join the RVS? Why didn't you contribute? -page 4

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2551322
-scum
Post #90 Why don't you throw a vote down? Why just an FOS? Bus your scumbuddy please.

Chesskid
-bus your scumbuddy

Substrike
-Fuck your jester speculation

DTM
-Good man

Cupcake
-http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2551916
-No it doesn't take it to another realm. still normal.

Zazie
-Still not the same Zaz i'm used to especially since we're at page six, and there isn't a Wall of one liners from him yet

Jmj
-feels like town by page 8

Jenni
-scum. She posts Wall of Texts when town. See Lost Season 1 Mafia

Bunnylover
-Way to piggyback on Fate. Bus your scumbuddy while you can

Kdub
-Scummy for asking for flavor from Zwet based on his claim.
-Why the vote on Substrike. Honestly.... Jester spec is retarded right now. Vote for scum. please

Gandalf
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2553046
-post doesn't sit well with me

Bunny
-scummy for asking for a full claim from chess.

Chess
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2553408
-this post reeks of scum desperation.


Lady L
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2553473
-Bad post is bad. going to fast? 15 votes to lynch. IIRC the highest amount of votes was 6. Good job outing yourself scum.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2553514
-Is this sarcastic?

Untrod is Scum. -Page 16

TL;DR

1. Untrod Tripod -scum
2. DTMaster - town
3. Fate - town
4. Nikanor - leaning town
5. jmj3000 - leaning town
6. Kairyuu - null
7. Exilon - null
8. Just a Bit Off-Center - null/town
9. Le Cupcake - scum
11. GandalfIzSik - leaning scum
12. Chronopie - scum
13. Ythan - town
14. diddin - scum
15. evilpacman18 - null
16. Dekes - null
17. ZazieR - null/flakes
18. mothrax - scum
19. Lady Lambdadelta - obv scum, like... needs to die
20. zwetschenwasser - null/town
21. Jenniwren - null/scum
22. Substrike22 - null
23. Mafuyu - null/scum
24. chesskid3 - meh... scum
25. Albert B. Rampage - null
26. Kdub - null/scum
27. bunnylover - scum
28. Aikage - null


Overall, we believe that our main suspects are Chrono, Le Cupcake, Lady L, Chess is VI and my other half think's he scum, and bunny lover.

I dislike Lecup for bad voting and fluff.
Chronopie for bad voting and fluff.
Kdub for fluffing and posting nothing but role speculation.


If the chess lynch does not occur, I would highly prefer a a Lady L lynch.

Fate - CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE?

like omg, guess what! you don't even mention me other than to say "mothrax=scum"
try again.

[mothrax]

one person? pretty sure Nik has me on her scum list, and I could be wrong but Fate did too. And we all know everyone sheeps to Fate, so that is a pretty big deal. Besides, I only got pushy when it was brought up a second time by you with no backing.

[mothrax]

Really? Cause I don't see it... pay special attention to the "Cupcake will out herself as scum" to "Cupcake is obvtown" contradiction.

[mothrax]

Really? Cause I don't see it... pay special attention to the "Cupcake will out herself as scum" to "Cupcake is obvtown" contradiction.

I still think cupcake is scummy. so back the fuck up. like I said before.

The statement was a response to you calling fate obvtown. He is not and I pointed out where he contradicted himself.

[mothrax]

How have I not been prodded? I will catch up tonight.

[mothrax]

Either that cv is rife with error or there are two double voters in this game.

@Mods: confirm vc is correct?

[mothrax]

I'm not seeing the town motivation to reveal the neighbors at this point in the game. If they find someone in their group scummy, they will (hopefully as town) inform us. Nikanor trying to force a reveal is blatant rolefishing. Goddess fakeclaims don't make sense however, at least not in context, so I will chalk it up to play. I like rayfrosts responses.
Going back to my suspicions from yesterday:
[/vote]BE[/vote]

[mothrax]

@LLD there is difference between understanding and believing, dear.

[mothrax]

What you are saying makes no sense nik. Yes, there is more likely than not scum amongst the neighbors, but to say that that means they have to attack each other to be town...

[mothrax]

That's the way it worked in rmmmm, but since no one came out and claimed responsibility d1 it is either built in or a scum ability...

[mothrax]

Nik: your point on sages being scum if they have not attacked another sage is pure shite. There is a block of players of which the majority is probtown. At this point in the game there are bigger scum to fry than those with possible sleeper prs.
Your insistence on lynching you over the others has also been noted.

Exi: I understand the insistence on lynching LL but keeping in mind the rush to lynch the claimed PGO. Stupid play trying to investigate said PGO too.

[mothrax]

Never said all the neighbors were town. It would behoov you to learn about word modifiers, particularly "majority" and "prob."
What I am saying is that the insistence that in order to be town, a neighbor has to have attacked another neighbor is wrong.
As for bigger scum to fry, I meant that there seems to be a focus on solely the neighbors when there is a high probability that there is other scum out there and in a vanillaless game the probability that they are more powerful than the neighbors is also high.

[mothrax]

Agreed that this shift debate is annoying, to help:

Unvote;Vote Mothrax

[mothrax]

sorry had an unexpected vla... will post content soon.

[mothrax]

@DTM: blatant misrep: What niknanor was asking for was chrono/sub outing any neigbor who was not attacking another neighbor and saying that made them obv-scum. I disagree. In your post you hit on exactly what I was trying to say, which is that just because a person has not outright attacked another player does not mean they are not scumhunting/ have a scum read on one of these people.

[mothrax]

@jenniwren: my case on BE was blatant sheeping and being obstinent. His attitude does nothing to help the town and he followed fate much of D1.
Yes he is still one of my top scum reads. as shown by:
UNVOTE: VOTE: Blooderection

[mothrax]

I believe that is everything directly addressed to me...

[mothrax]

DTM I responded to your post... You must have missed it...

Also, note my sig... Requesting replacement, sorry guys.

[mothrax]

@DTM: blatant misrep: What niknanor was asking for was chrono/sub outing any neigbor who was not attacking another neighbor and saying that made them obv-scum. I disagree. In your post you hit on exactly what I was trying to say, which is that just because a person has not outright attacked another player does not mean they are not scumhunting/ have a scum read on one of these people.

Here you go.
If that isn't satisfactory, get off your high horse and get over it. I'm getting really tired of people like you.

[mothrax]

Step 1: Nikanor: if a neighbor hasn't publicly attacked another neighbor they are scum[
step 2: me: not true
Step 3: DTM why would you not scumhunt your reads?

There are different ways of scumhunting, mafia is a game of finesse as well as aggression. It's called information gathering, establishing stronger reads, etc.

[mothrax]

Also, in a block of 6 out of 32, the scum are going to try extra hard to blend in and not piss anyone off, town can use this to there advantage to organize the neighbor group. In doing so, they get a block of at least 4 townies.

[mothrax]

Good morning all.

@mods: I assume I am free to go about my business since I no longer need a replacement?(as per our pms)

[mothrax]

Bunny, there is a big difference between lurking and active lurking. Lurking for example is what I did through the first two days and is a null tell. Active lurking is posting contentless fluff

in excess

which is a scumtell. Also thanks for playing the newbcard. Newb scum don't buss and your avoidance of the sub wagon reeks of newbscum.

Vote:bunnylover

[mothrax]

Did anyone else forget zwet was in this game?

Yes, yes I did. Zwet, care to post something of content?

[mothrax]

@DGB: Mothrax was scummy D1, and was the last I saw of him.

AKR is also prob scum.

Mafuyu was largely inactive, though I would not be surprised if she flipped scum (she played slightly different this game than I have seen in the past)

ythan would not surprise me as scum. Iso me for my ythan post DGB.

You are going to call people out for lurking? Of all people? Did you miss the part where I requested replacement and came back because the mods couldn't find one?

Also mafuyu isn't in this game any more. RTFT! You are conftown so play like it!

[mothrax]

Bunny, there is a big difference between lurking and active lurking. Lurking for example is what I did through the first two days and is a null tell.

Active lurking is posting contentless fluff

in excess

which is a scumtell. Also thanks for playing the newbcard. Newb scum don't buss and your avoidance of the sub wagon reeks of newbscum.

Vote:bunnylover

Also found it ~<3 Read the parts in red above. Someone just admitted to lurking for the first two days. Totally lots of scum points here.

And someone missed my point entirely. Lurking is a null tell. Sorry if my mother was rediagnosed with breast-cancer and I being her only family had to take care of her after her surgery. And again, did you miss the part where I requested replacement?

[mothrax]

@DTM I requested replacement in all of my games. Revisionist couldn't find a replacement so I came back, my other games are ongoing, but you are welcome to find them. A mini theme, large normal, Newbie and open.

[mothrax]

Ebwop: revisionist=Reckamonic

[mothrax]

Hell, just look at the replacement qeue.

[mothrax]

I understand completely, though I would like to think my play is slightly better than haylen. (at least when i can fully contribute.)

[mothrax]

Since apparently it has become an issue, I would like to publically apologize to Haylen. My comment was not intended to disrespect her in anyway. It was not discounting her play, merely saying that I think mine is better.

Expect real post later.

[/drama]

[mothrax]

Yes haylen. She took offense to my earlier post, which was not it's intent. I felt a public apology to the crowd was necessary and now I am done cluttering the thread about it. Any other issues are free to be pmd.

[mothrax]

Aikage, listen to me: Quote your role Pm. Please.

This

^thirded.
You are claiming to have information that is beneficial to the town(the source of kills and the ability to clear ythan) yet you refuse to share it. Scummy.

unvote; vote Aikage

On top of that your posts are difficult to read.

[mothrax]

A week into the day and the vote leader has no player votes on him, come on guys...

[mothrax]

Also, Aikage, tell me where I did not follow through with a promise? If you are referring to my"real post later comment" I followed up with that. I post when I can. The most recent attacks on me have been due to my activity, I defended from them. These are not excuses but defenses. Learn to play. Also a knowledge of the English grammar structure would be incredibly helpful as well.

[mothrax]

wow i have some good news and bad news, but probably good news!

1. i have my vote now!!!!!!!!!1
2. ythan might not be scum, if my theory about my role is right
3. akr is scum!!

now that we know BE was town, akr's vote onto me at the end of the day is really really scummy. he wanted to get off the mislynch and vote another one! and look today he doesn't even mention me! he says he remembers suspecting beefsteR??? but he had his vote on me yesterday! he doesnt really suspect me, he was just fakin it

Vote: AKR

feels good to do that! now i can finally contribute more.

last night i targeted ythan, since he didn't die my theory is maybe i can only kill bad people and when i target good people good things happen to them. did you get anything psecial last night ythan?

The last paragraph AKR, where he implies ythan might be cleared.

[mothrax]

Yes, Phantom Gannon was the boss of the Forest Temple, he had to be defeated to unseal Saria. She was a childhood friend, but went missing when Link becomes adult Link.

[mothrax]

@Kdub: Because yesterday, Aikage didn't claim anything about being able to possibly clear a townie. If he can clear a townie, then why wouldn't we?

Aikage wagon is not dumb. Here are the reasons you should be voting for Aikage:
1a) withholding usefull information
2b) stalling a claim
3c) throwing around suspicions without backing them up
4d) Keeping a wide umbrella of suspicions to keep his options open
5e) dissapearing under pressure (his last post was monday the 29th, before the pressure really piled on him.)

[mothrax]

That was a nice flight of the Concords interlude but do you actually have something to contribute?

[mothrax]

Ok, just checking.

[mothrax]

Reread rule 17: All quicktipics are open at all times.

[mothrax]

Umm, DTM, take your own advice and read my posts. Tell me where I said he was under voting pressure before today? My statement was that he had disappeared under pressure then I gave a date of his LATEST post. It should have been an easy correlation to make that I was referring to the current wagon.

Good try though, and your defense of him is noted.

[mothrax]

Perhaps it defaulted to the next day and fate would have received something D2. YThan might get his this twighlight.

[mothrax]

I'm working on something really cool right now! But I think it's going to take a while... If you can wait five or six years, it should be ready. OK?

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

Aikage

. You are

Medigoron

. You run a small blacksmith shop on Death Mountain... though it’s not as good as your brother’s. And you can make some cool things... though they’re not as good as your brother’s. In fact, you know what? You’re tired of being compared to your brother! If you step up and help fight against the evil in Hyrule, maybe you’ll be recognized as a hero...and then people can stop comparing you to your goddamn brother!

This flavor doesn't sit right with me. Take away the last sentence and it is a scum role pm....
my vote stands

[mothrax]

I didn't ignore it, and he isn't a JAOT he is an inventor. Reread my post, I am saying he looks like scum... Scum could be inventors as well.

[mothrax]

Aikage: I said nothing about millers. Also I was commenting on the flavor of your pm and how a few well placed word changes would make it for scum.

[mothrax]

Some of the leaps in logic in this game are really fucking frustrating. Where the fuck did I say his pm was a scum slip? I noted that it was possibly a doctored scum pm because the flavor could fit scum. I'm sick and tired of people thinking I don't know what I am doing because they misinterpret my posts. If want to question my motives, my wording or what have you do so, but I am tired of delisting the same damn thing multiple times because people don't understand simple sentences.

[mothrax]

1. Mothrax. I'm confused to how you saw the PM to be doctored. Do a PM comparison with one claimed in town or pull apart specific lines. You said that if you removed the last line it wouldn't be a town PM and I don't see it.

If the line was there and makes it a valid PM then why were you pushing this doctored argument?

PS: The logic leap isn't that huge. You said the PM looks fake. Ihmo therefore you think Aikage slipped by showing us a doctored PM but you know where it was. Also I was saying that only scum would know what a "scum PM is". What we would know is what doesn't look like town which is pretty different. You clearly stated as quoted:

This flavor doesn't sit right with me.

Take away the last sentence and it is a scum role pm....

How do you know it's a scum PM mothrax? Why can you compare this claim to something representative as scum to call it close to a scum PM? Only scum can do a direct comparison like this to call out: "This is a scum PM".

Town would say: "This doesn't look like a town PM and this looks fake".

Thus this reads like a slip from you since only scum could compare their PMs and say: Oh look this looks like a scum PM. Town would go: Oh look, this doesn't match with my PM so this must be scum!.

If you're saying that Aikage didn't scum-slip in his PM then your argument has no water. Then why make it in the first place?

There is a difference in a scumslip and posting a fake role pm. I think there is a high possibility that aikage is scum and that his pm is fake. However I think some of the original flavor was included. If you read all but the last sentence of the first paragraph, it could very easily be flavor that was sent to scum. Meaning I think that medigoron could possibly be a scum character.
Also, you answered your own question in what you quoted. if you don't see it I bolded it for you. THE FLAVOR, not the layout or anything in the pm looks off. the layout looks similar to every other pm we have seen in game and nowhere in my post did I imply otherwise.

[mothrax]

prodded
content soon... swear i posted a response t dtm... grumble.
vote still stands

[mothrax]

Chrono, you is wrong, there are two sages left. Bongo bongo was substrikes target iirc.

[mothrax]

There were six neighbors, the sages, their targets were the bosses of their respective temples(minus koc(saria) whose target was ghoma)
Three are alive, chrono and two others(darunia and nabooru)
Substrike had a fakeclaim as a sage(impa) and flipped Poe scum.
The likelihood of another scum in the sages is undecided (would bossscum have a sage safeclaim?)

[mothrax]

Wait, damn the names and them being similar....
Sages:
Nabooru: chrono, unsealed
Raruu: substrikes fake claim, dead
Saria: koc, dead
Ruto: rayfrost, dead
Darunia: ???, sealed
Impa: ???, unsealed

Thus two unsealed and one sealed= no more neighbors, the poor lonely bastard/bastardess still sealed.

[mothrax]

@Bunny: the sages were neighbors, not masons.

[mothrax]

Bunny though he/she is at L-1 is town. Rage and the fact that if bunny doesnt understand something as town, bunny asks. I don't consider bunny skilled enough to play against meta, so my conditional meta fails argument is not applicable.

DGB is scum guys: she provided VCA for two days ago but never followed up. Other than that she has been hardcore sheeping/lurking.

Vote DGB

[mothrax]

Mothrax, I really hate that last post of yours.

I want BL claiming, and then I want pressure on Mothrax tommorow :S

Esspecially if BL were to flip scum.

Orly? What is it you hate about it, the fact that I disagree with you? I have a town read on bunny, I don't want an accidental hammer happening.

[mothrax]

Bunny, it might help if you put a line space between your main points.

[mothrax]

@AKR if you are implying what I think, it is possible your vote came too late(after the rolling attack)

[mothrax]

@DGB: your VCA is inherently flawed and the fact that you are voting me for it is laughable. For starters the point system counts scum wagons too... It can be summed up by saying that your voting me for having been on large wagons.

[mothrax]

Also, in your third and fourth votecounts, please explain where the "one purple scum" is coming from...

[mothrax]

No, because even though I think bunny is town I was looking foward to her flipping out

[mothrax]

AKR, I know what you are getting at so you won't mind when I have equal suspicion of you right? Thought not.

I am however interestedin a DGB claim. I highly doubt she is purple scum because of the wagons yesterday, but I could see her as grey fairly easily.

[mothrax]

Dgb's rage reads town. Her claim is believable. Especially if ythan backs her up.

@AKR: yes I did, and you got it wrong, especially considering substrikes flip.

[mothrax]

ABR that was to akr who knows what I mean. Also, I have proof in my role pm thatmods are fallible. I am not going to outright claim at this point but give me a minute to get my computer.

[mothrax]

Albert, I am town, my role pm has a blatant error in the second line. In the same area that DGB's supposed error is in. ergo, the mods could have easily fucked up, missed it, or flat out forgotten to do that in the role pm. Hell... AKR can back me up on this one.

[mothrax]

I think what she is trying to say is they gave her the role info on who she was replacing but not the player info. That way if she decided not to replace in she wouldnt know a player and a role, just one role that was in the game.

that is if I am reading it right it went like this:

DGB: "I will replace, but I want to know the role before I make my decision"
Mods: "Here is a role pm, we took the players name out so you wouldn't know whom it is if you decide not to"
DGB: "hmmm this role is pretty cool, ok I will take it."
Dram: "here ya go, you are replacing Dekes btw"

[mothrax]

I was rephrasing what she had already said, nothing else. It seemed that you were confused by it so I thought I would make it less so.

[mothrax]

I am waiting for a seal of approval or hint as such if he is so inclined to disclose any more information on the matter.

[mothrax]

Lady, as I said I am not saying more about it without an ok from AKR. He is the key player in the situation.

[mothrax]

@Lady
I doubt you will understand at this point. He has more to lose ATM than I do if he is town. It could either clear us both or mean that I can confirm him as scum by POE. I am honestly leaning towards clearing us both, but once he ok's the claim there needs to be discussion.

[mothrax]

I kept a healthy amount of suspicion on both of you, since there are people saying there is one more scum in the sage group. I personally don't think boss scum would have an infiltrator thus in my eyes you were both confirmed town. I could be persuaded otherwise though. It seems you disagree.

[mothrax]

AKR:
Mainly since I'm busy. I need to re-evaulate my reads since both BL and Aikage flipped scum contrary to what I thought of. The DGB case is very glaringly obvious so that needs to go down now. I'll have my thoughts about you shortly when I get home. I'm behind so I need to finish my reads on Zwet, and Mothrax from my original list.

ABR's analysis is correct and dissolves my initial suspicion to confidently place him on the town list (Ihmo it's a better representation of PM analysis in comparison to Mothraxs where he pointed out specific lines. Mothrax's analysis was more poor due to the lack of specifics since he just mentioned the flavour seemed scummy. DGB's PM analysis has a line by line break down in formating errors, most likely due to scum fake claiming.) Vezok as well. I propose that for the moment they could be added to the super bloc (i.e. Chrono/Mason Pair) and we can do Point of Order from there to lynch the unconfirmed. If the game still goes on between the 5, I would consider Vezok to be the scummiest. Then ABR/Chrono in a toss up.

But yes, my case isn't gone. Nor is my read on you AKR. I'm just paranoid that I missed something since I was proven wrong twice now and mulling things over.
Tl:dr: I require a reread because I'm paranoida about something.

Chrono is dead, Vezok did the analysis. I said it was believable. You got your names mixed up.

[mothrax]

@cupcake Yes, I am a sage. Darunia to be exact.

[mothrax]

So let me get this straight? Your kill doesnt come through untill twilight correct? At that point if all goes according to plan, we will have lynched DGB who I assume you plan to shoot?

So a wasted lynch/daykill. So you shoot DGB, we lynch someone else in that case. If you don't follow through, we go from there.

That makes sense to me. I would rather see someone else hang.

vote vezo

He sheeps the whole game and just adds one liners untill this point. High likelyhood for him to be the other scum faction.

[mothrax]

Other scum faction than DGBscum. not that difficult to infer if you read it in context...

[mothrax]

If I am correct, medallions are held by the bosses. Since I don't have one and I am unsealed. Though if it was an unsealed sage they would have the medallion?

[mothrax]

Really, then why does my rolepm say "in order to release your medalion"

[mothrax]

Hmmmm... I seem to recall having beat LoT:Oot just a week ago and nowhere does it say that the sages hold the medallions prior to being unsealed.

[mothrax]

Has Darunia, the big boss of the Gorons, really lost so much status to be treated like this by his Sworn Brother, the King? Now, I'm REALLY angry!

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

Person

. You are

Darunia

. You’re the patriarch of the Goron tribe, and what a proud Goron you are! In fact, you love your tribe and your people so much, you’re willing to do whatever it takes in order to save Hyrule, and by extension, your mountain and your people!

Race:

Fiery Goron

Faction:

Hero

You are the

Sealed Fire Sage

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Sacred Realm

- While you are sealed in the sacred realm, you are able to communicate with the other sages. They are not alignment confirmed. You may still post and vote in the game thread as normal while you are sealed.

Sage of Fire

- In order to release your medallion and break your seal,

Volvagia

must die. You will gain your true abilities if this happens, though you will no longer be able to communicate in the sacred realm.

Active Abilities:

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per phase.

Win Condition (Hero):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Hyrule is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

Sacred Realm:
The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 53&start=0

[/area][/quote]

yup, says nothing about me having a medallion.

[mothrax]

AKR if you had read the sage qt upon replacing in you would have seen the mods confirm that error which is why earlier I said that there was a modconfirmed error in my pm.
@lady: mine as in it rightfully belongs to me, not as in I have it.

[mothrax]

If it makes any difference I said "well shit" really loudly as soon as I did it. I'm sorry I should have sent a pm asking you to edit it out asap.

[mothrax]

<3 to mods...

[mothrax]

I was actually waiting for DTM... He needs to shoot vezok or AKR IMO.

[mothrax]

I'm reading along but there wasn't much to comment on between DTMs "I'll be back tomorrow" and my prod.

[mothrax]

2. DTMaster
9. Le Cupcake
13. Ythan
14. diddin ZONEACE replaced D1 vezokpiraka replaced D2
15. evilpacman18 Hinduragi replaced D1 AKnottedRope replaced D2
16. Dekes DrippingGoofball replaced D2
18. mothrax
19. Lady Lambdadelta
20. zwetschenwasser
25. Albert B. Rampage

Living players (10)

Town:
LLD
Cupcake
Mothrax

Scum:
vezok
zwets
AKR

these are my top threes, everyone else is somewhere in between. I am not convinced that DGB is

todays

lynch and if we aren't going to get the daykill we were promised a week ago I would much rather see vezok strung up. DTM seems to have flaked but I wouldn't be suprised if this were scum trying to drag the day out.

Things I know:
A1) Vezok and DGB can't be scum together (if they were vezok would have let the two-dot issue slide since the pm discussion was losing steam at that point.
b2) AKR is scum by POE
c3) I doubt AKR and Vezok are scum together but would not be suprised if AKR and DGB were.

We are nearing a kingmaker situation with what I assume to be 2:3:5

[mothrax]

b2) AKR is scum by POE

No

lolscum

[mothrax]

Blatant lurking, sheeping, and contradicting himself.

[mothrax]

WTF?

[mothrax]

Yeah, minus the fact that I am abilityless, lets see... I'm going to call bullshit. Hi bossscum.

Vote Ythan

[mothrax]

A1: If I had targeted zwet I would be dead
B2: I am as of yet sealed, which means I still have no abilities.
I suspect foul play. Nightshift could have effed up your results.

[mothrax]

That was a quick 180. And no you aren't sealed. Flipped sage-claimed scum have actually been other characters thus far.

That would be the case were I scum, however, since I am town and you have seen my role pm and I am darunia, I am inclined to believe that you sir are volvagia. also stalling a claim is scummy.

please explain the first sentence in the above quote as well so that we may know to what you are referring.

[mothrax]

still waiting for your claim... for serious.

[mothrax]

I am inclined to believe that you are partners with DGB, however should your claim be believable, I am not closed to the possibility that you are telling the truth and were redirected in some way.

[mothrax]

So according to your claim I should be dead. On multiple levels actually. If I did indeed target zwet, I would be dead since am non plant. And since you have tried to kill me twicenow, I have used the bulletproof you gave me. Either there is a shift in play, or youarelying( notlikely)

[mothrax]

Then by all rights I should be dead. It makes no sense what you are saying. I believe you, but I don't think that your actions hit who they were intended for. Ie: you tracked someone to zwet, zwet is dead, vezok is also dead: logical conclusion: you hit vezok last night.

[mothrax]

Yes play oot, also, LL, if there wasn't a shift you are dead anyways along with two other players, so thanks for the lynch. (did no one question why I stopped fighting it? I knew I was screwed so I went all out bitches, let's see you block a pretargeted ability on top of what DTM is claiming. Poe scum (both of you if DTM is truthtelling) you are welcome.

[mothrax]

The kills will go through. I didn't play this game for 4 months to let town win. Pedit: your point LL?

[mothrax]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Ythan, tell the truth now (there is no point in not) You are poe scum no?

[mothrax]

*grins* If the flips turn out like I think they will, I will just be happy in general, seeing as I might have lost but I took down three town members with me.

[mothrax]

hey, when I lose, I lose big baby (p.s. if you are sore over my *bitches* comment it was not directed at you, and was more of a coloquial for "people")
And I have never played SK, though I do think it would be fun.

[mothrax]

@diddin: he died because he was synced to me iirc.

Also, gg town, but I am glad we won. I was a little pissed at the start of D7, having been caught by ythan. there was literally no way to talk my way out of it. By the end though, I seriously just told DTM to just shoot and end the day.

[mothrax]

Yeah, I thought about trying to sway others to the idea of a shift or redirection, but I'm pretty sure the masons were convinced at that point.
P:edit I'm sad that the mods wouldn't let me talk to myself.

[mothrax]

I don't think I ever did... DGB had it at one point but we were gonna gambit with her poison and say it was a protective role she targeted with, however with all of the wierd redirection that happened that night it p. much failed epicly.

[mothrax]

I would pre in for wow but I know nothing about the flavor...