Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

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Diddin - feels like a scumslip. http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p2551117 Well.. if he really was scum there.

Cupcake
-Curious as to why he didn't explain why he voted Diddin. wonder if it was the same reason why i would vote him.

Nikanor
-post 68, why is Ythan scummy?

ythan
-feels townie at page 3.

ABR
-confused as to why you did not weigh in on what was going on during page 4?

Lady Lambdadelta
-Why did you ask to join the RVS? Why didn't you contribute? -page 4

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 2#p2551322
-scum
Post #90 Why don't you throw a vote down? Why just an FOS? Bus your scumbuddy please.

Chesskid
-bus your scumbuddy

Substrike
-Fuck your jester speculation

DTM
-Good man

Cupcake
-http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2551916
-No it doesn't take it to another realm. still normal.

Zazie
-Still not the same Zaz i'm used to especially since we're at page six, and there isn't a Wall of one liners from him yet

Jmj
-feels like town by page 8

Jenni
-scum. She posts Wall of Texts when town. See Lost Season 1 Mafia

Bunnylover
-Way to piggyback on Fate. Bus your scumbuddy while you can

Kdub
-Scummy for asking for flavor from Zwet based on his claim.
-Why the vote on Substrike. Honestly.... Jester spec is retarded right now. Vote for scum. please

Gandalf
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2553046
-post doesn't sit well with me

Bunny
-scummy for asking for a full claim from chess.

Chess
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p2553408
-this post reeks of scum desperation.


Lady L
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p2553473
-Bad post is bad. going to fast? 15 votes to lynch. IIRC the highest amount of votes was 6. Good job outing yourself scum.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 4#p2553514
-Is this sarcastic?

Untrod is Scum. -Page 16

TL;DR

1. Untrod Tripod -scum
2. DTMaster - town
3. Fate - town
4. Nikanor - leaning town
5. jmj3000 - leaning town
6. Kairyuu - null
7. Exilon - null
8. Just a Bit Off-Center - null/town
9. Le Cupcake - scum
11. GandalfIzSik - leaning scum
12. Chronopie - scum
13. Ythan - town
14. diddin - scum
15. evilpacman18 - null
16. Dekes - null
17. ZazieR - null/flakes
18. mothrax - scum
19. Lady Lambdadelta - obv scum, like... needs to die
20. zwetschenwasser - null/town
21. Jenniwren - null/scum
22. Substrike22 - null
23. Mafuyu - null/scum
24. chesskid3 - meh... scum
25. Albert B. Rampage - null
26. Kdub - null/scum
27. bunnylover - scum
28. Aikage - null


Overall, we believe that our main suspects are Chrono, Le Cupcake, Lady L, Chess is VI and my other half think's he scum, and bunny lover.

I dislike Lecup for bad voting and fluff.
Chronopie for bad voting and fluff.
Kdub for fluffing and posting nothing but role speculation.


If the chess lynch does not occur, I would highly prefer a a Lady L lynch.

Fate - CAPS LAWK ALLIANCE?

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/subscribing

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LMAO my RVS vote? A scumslip? What you smokin boi. EPM tricked me and the rest of the town as scum in the aforementioned game, and I joked that he wasn't gonna trick me again.

link me to your last game please.

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Its been three more goddamn pages with not a single pro-town scumhunting post by chessscum.

Why are we still here.

Waiting for a VC to be honest.

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Fate, Lady L is scum. Guaranfuckingteed.

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Blooderection are you a public hydra?

I don't CAPS LAWKE with just anyone.

Plus its too early. Not enough concrete townreads with chesskid here. (I have a few secret scumreads though but they're on the hush hush)

Yea, Cateraction and I.

you have my scumlist if I get Nk'd.

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Blooderection are you a public hydra?

I don't CAPS LAWKE with just anyone.

Plus its too early. Not enough concrete townreads with chesskid here. (I have a few secret scumreads though but they're on the hush hush)

Yea, Cateraction and I.

you have my scumlist if I get Nk'd.

...you accused 12 people of being scum...

Your point?
Weren't you one of them? Yea... you were.

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my point was your "scumlist" is useless because it's almost half of the playerlist. Also why am I scum?

But it only has 9 players that are scum and not "null/scum." Please... don't be a fool. Aside from that i gave our high priority scum, AKA those who need to be dealt with first.

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So

Blooderection has a terrible scumdar. Can you restate why I'm scum as well?

Cupcake
- http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p2551916
-No it doesn't take it to another realm. still normal. Scummy that you are looking to far into it.

I dislike Lecup for bad voting and fluff.

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How is that post scummy?

I disagree.

You are asking the same question as you did before... do you realize that?

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how come you get to call Tripod scum but when I do it you rage at me :/

It's the whole desperation thing.

@jmj - and in CEBM too.


@Cupcake - Ignore zwets claim. Not him.

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FATE
HOW WELL YOU SUM UP WHAT I SAY.

P-edit: I disagree with your statement in regards to my post. You are saying that we should just ignore zwet? Because, if so, I highly disagree.

You're not allowed to use caps.

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wait I can post my pm?

-.-

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BE
WHO THE FUCK ARE YOU
GO AWAY.

lolscumangry.

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KATSUKI SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I'LL POINT OUT WHAT YOU JUST TOLD ME.

It feels rather obvious if you as me.

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Ask*

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and now we wait for mod-kill.

l2p.

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=/

shit.

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Fate, whats your opinion of Lady L?

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Fate, whats your opinion of Lady L?

I HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE THAT SHE WILL BE OUTED AS SCUM SOON ENOUGH. SHE IS ON THE NO-VIG LIST.

Oh, I didn't realize that was the Vig list.

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Come to think of it, I have yet to see fate town play too.

Hrm.

This is exactly like GoW mafia.

ay yo fate just sayin but zazie will probably flake before we get the chance to lynch him on that list o' yours

"ay yo fate imma make a useless fuckin post talkin bout the activity of a well known flake just fo da sake of it

put me on yo vig/lynch list yo."

DONE.

*ADDS DIDDIN*

Yo fate, you knew he was going to make a post like that, he's already on your list.

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BE

I hope you can play better than you did in alphabet.

You do realize that i was only lynched based on DGB's shoddy VC analysis... Right? Besides. this is a Hydra account. Not just BC.

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lulz

That was most definately not the only reason why you got lynched.

Why exactly do you want us lynched here? what was the reason again? Or should I say, why are you going to Night kill us?

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lulz

That was most definately not the only reason why you got lynched.

Why exactly do you want us lynched here? what was the reason again? Or should I say, why are you going to Night kill us?

Nice misrep. Especially right after I said that I hoped that your play this game would be better too.

What exactly was this in reference to than?

BE still posting terribly.

Good thing I can help him die.

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I assumed it was a blatant crumb.

I feel like Cupcake is holding a grudge.... for no real reason.

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BE

I hope you can play better than you did in alphabet.

You do realize that i was only lynched based on DGB's shoddy VC analysis... Right? Besides. this is a Hydra account. Not just BC.

Are we really going to do this again?

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____________________

Now, I am quite curious as to who the "erection" side of the head is.

he's sleeping, and is likely to be less active than me.

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I don't understand the Jester talk.
Chess needs to be eliminated. That way the town can actually get some damn reads on people and get the person who will probably fuck town up out of the way.

Yo, my partner and I have a whole list of reads back on page nine. And two of the players that we listed as scum have attacked me.

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Page 19*

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I feel like Cupcake is holding a grudge.... for no real reason.

btw, feel like explaining this one for me?

Considering, ya know, I've never actually played with you before (unless playing with your inactive name counts).

Oh, ok... so it's just because I have you listed as scum you troll me. Got it.

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lols. overrun by chickens. nice.

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I like how we have a dayvig.

But wasted shots are not appreciated.

what are you talking about?

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He's something-proof. In the last game Reck allowed someone to be mod-somethinged and survive it due to a role immunity. His day-vig comment is a lie.

which game was that?

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ALSO
DEAR VIG
DO NOT WASTE YOUR NIGHT SHOT ON ME EITHER

SAVE IT FOR THE ANTI-TOWNS ALA FATE'S LIST.

P-edit: WELL I'm sorry I have BE here who has a broken scumdar.

lol, we'll just have to lynch you tomorrow. Also, i like how you're trying to discredit all of our reads.

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MORE MISREP.

I only said you. I said for vig to follow fate's list.

My other head had the same reads as me except for two which was Mafuya more Town and Substrike more scum.

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Seriously, jester-discussers, what do you think are the odds that the VI would get jester if there even is one?

I think the best Jester was the one in CEBM. That's about all I have to say about jesters. He fulfilled his role, and did it well.

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...
There was no jester in CEBM?

@Bunny: Fuck no.

Wasn't there?

who was that dude that posted his Role PM and acted like he was scum that forgot to change his Wincon... wasn't that a jester?

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That was StrangerCoug. He could flip anything he wanted upon death, but really he was scum.

Oh... so he flipped jester? Awesome!

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And like I just happened to have a flavor-pm role for Mr.Burns lying around as exactly the role cupcake got?

has cupcake confirmed that? y/n?

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Pretty sure n.

Chesskid/cupcake scumteam.

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MORE MISREP.

I only said you. I said for vig to follow fate's list.

My other head had the same reads as me except for two which was Mafuya more Town and Substrike more scum.

Hey BC, does that mean that Erection is the half that believes Mafuyu is town?
@Chesskid: Exactly

what

has caused you to believe that cupcake is Hated? There's been zero indication. Additionally, why are you dropping roles from an ongoing game?

Yes, thats true. And to be honest i had you more null, but i wouldn't have been surprised if you flipped town. I posted my list right before he posted that comment in our QT.


Yo Cupcake, stop tunneling.

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P-Edit: cupcake hasn't tunneled anyone. Do you need a lesson like chess as to what tunneling is? Ythan posted a nice wiki link a while back.

So give me your top 6 scum picks and why.

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Holy Shit... Ythan... you're not voting Chesskid... why?

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Aight... i'll find it.

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Holy Shit... Ythan... you're not voting Chesskid... why?

BE is evidently not reading.

P-edit: Ythan did.

Ninja count: 5

ANSWER MY QUESTIONS DAMNIT!

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I explain why when I unvoted him.

found it.

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BE

I will answer that when my other head gets a chance to read the thread. I think it got to pg6 or something.

Our Read:
chess - My other head agrees to highly disliking said player and wants lynch. Only comment from other head thus far.

DON'T GIVE ME THAT HORSE SHIT!

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Unvote; Vote: ythan

for scummy attempts to distance himself from the chesskid wagon

Thats what I thought at first, but i don't anymore since i read back to where he unvoted.

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*yawn*

Bedtime.

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We need some activity up in har!!

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@LLD:

19)

Mod and PM quoting

:

You can post your role PM if it amuses you

, but quoting any other communication with me is forbidden.

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This has really been a 0 information day so far. ITT so far: Chesskid sucks, and his role is anti-town, that is all. (fyi: I'm already voting him)

Three players have claimed/softclaimed. You don't have any reads based on reactions, discussion, etc? How are you being protown in the least bit? Top 3 scum leads. Go.

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Ok well this will probably be my last content post, based on current progression.

I'm a slow starter in games, especially online. I take awhile to get reads, and until I do I am usually just noise (see Lost S1 if you want). That doesn't mean I am a VI - in fact I chose scum on D1 and he got vigged n1 as a result, and I found scum on D2 as well, though failtown lynched the Beloved Princess's guard.

Please, don't try to take credit for Dram's read and night kill.

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Zwet claimed.

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I want to say this before I finish my catch up: I'm on page 16-17


7. Whoa wut. Suicidal One Shot Double Vanillaizer? Explain plz.

Edit 1: Oh you die when you vanillize people... OMG WUT WE CAN CONFIRM YOU AND NOT WASTE A VIG NOR A LYNCH?! AND YOU'RE A NOISE GENERATOR!! OMG OMG THIS IS AWESME. CHESS LYNCH DOES NOT GO THROUGH.

Gais

I volunteer to be vanillized. If Chess vanillizes people tonight he dies. This effectively means all "vigs" get a shot elsewhere, and the lynch also works elsewhere.

In terms of pure statistical play, I'm willing to be a VT to give us a better statstical advantage in terms of town controlled kills today versus potential scum derived kills. If Chess lies and I'm vanillized the town wouldn't have lost an important role. We can confirm Chess elsewhere, mornic or not, and we should. It's confirmation through blood.

You're either a really dumb townie or scum.

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Assuming he is town it still tells us nothing. You really think that vanillaizing would change allignments? We are assuming chesskid is town, assuming you and DTM are town, and that chesskid will target you and not be blocked, etc. Too many things go wrong, too many things assumed. Its a very scummy suggestion from both of you.

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So...there goes any reason to keep you alive.

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I like how I am getting bunched into the group who suggested it, BE. TBH, I am not fond of chesskid's ability. The possibility of misuse is great.

I will post after classes are done. My main reasoning for wanting chesskid lynch was his obnoxiously scummy behavior which was beyond distracting, not to mention the irrationality shown yesterday. I will reevaluate when I have time.

I have seen a ton of this type of behavior in players D1 lately, so.

P-EDIT: No time to respond to any new comments.

I would be fine with being a vanillarize target, unless someone else needs it.

The only thing I had originally worried about with suggesting plan was if chesskid did not go along with it. Back around pg14 he wasn't exactly being all the most rational.

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chesskid, it was not just ythan, you were refusing to answer any anything anyone asked of you.

There was flavor in your PM pertaining to your ability, but when we asked for that, you went apeshit on everyone. I may be more lenient given that I have seen you play like this, but if I were to judge you on your play yesterday, I would have no hesitation in lynching you.

@BE: In the post you quoted, I essentially agree with everything that you posted afterwards, and why it would be a BAD idea to let vanillarizing go through.
As for DTM, I believe that his comment made on vanillarizing largely depends on flip.

You only voiced the concern of chesskid not going along with the plan. You volunteered to be vanillarized if he did.

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Him being scum is really a very small portion of why the plan wouldn't work.

@Nik: I don't disbelieve that chess is town. I just dont trust him to use his role in a pro-town way. IMO, its a very swingy role that could likely hurt us more than help us.

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@Nik: I don't disbelieve that chess is town. I just dont trust him to use his role in a pro-town way. IMO, its a very swingy role that could likely hurt us more than help us.

Are you scum? Because I have no idea how a townie would get off on lynching someone that he thinks is town.

I'm town that doesn't want to lose a PR.

@chess: no scum is gonna night kill you. Theyd love to have you take out town PRs.

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b. If Chess is scum, we will know from the fact that he's alive and if he does vanilize people.

Or, he claims to be roleblocked. Or he isn't suicidal, he added that part and we just lost two town roles.

c. If Chess is scum, and is blocked, then this has to be done under precise situations (ie. two scum teams one of them more willing to frame Chess, etc, etc) that it's impratical to be paranoid about that till tomorrow.

Or he didn't use the role, claims to be roleblocked and skates for a few days.

Also I'm Town and I'm a PR. I'd rather lose my PR then have a wasted lynch.

This is stupid. He's going to die, but instead of lynch him and potentially save 2 roles. You're going to throw away your role. Why would you even claim that? That was incredibly dumb.

Scratch that Blood is scum Look at that change between OMG LYNCH CHESS BECAUSE LETTING HIM VANILIZE PEOPLE IS TOO UNRELIABLE to Chess's PR IS SUPER ANTI TOWN NO SCUM WOULD STOP THAT. If chess is town and the only reason scum would stop it is they don't want to vanalize into goons.

I haven't changed. I said, and am still saying, chess should be lynched because his role is more likely a detriment to the town. Scum would see that and not kill him, let him kill himself, and screw the town. We need to lynch him, because hes a loose cannon that might just get angry and vanillarize a town PR further screwing us.

Unvote, Vote Blooderection for the massive contraction in the above quote. It sounds like scum frustrated at the wagon stalling and trying to get a potential danger out. He's masking it via spreading paranoia through the town in losing their PRs. Rather then that, we can direct Chess and use it in a town directed manner for pro-town motives. Chess is leashed. That's tons better then a blind lynch him stance.

Stalling wagon? He's been at L-2 with like 4 people who said they'd kill him. Paranoia? You volunteered yourself as a town PR to be lost! If we find scum, we lynch them; if we don't know, vanillaizing is inherently a bigger threat to the town than the scum. It's a bastard role that needs to be gotten rid of so that we dont leave these things to chance.

You are here to keep your town reads, and lynch your scum reads. The fact that you are degrading this argument to a skill based argument goes against town play because you're lynching town reads. If you lynch people based on inepitude in skill, you wouldn't ever lynch scum properly because there is a thing called skilled scum players .

It's the role that I'm concerned about. The inept player behind it just makes it scarier.

Why are we still contemplating chess scum? If Nik flips scum feel free to lynch the shit out of me. Until then I'm pretty cleared, and I'm not planning on using my ability tonight.

Thats not how that works. We use your flip to see if he's lying. Or are you suggesting we lynch a info role over one that suicides?

Unvote, Vote: Blooderection

Scum. Not to mention, this will probably give us quite a bit of information to analyze in later days.

Scum on what grounds? Calling you scum?

I'll admit, I might have been a little tunnel-visioned on the perceived anti-town role of vanilliser, especially in the hands of someone who's posts consisted of generally terms of "screw you guys."

But I can get behind a BE wagon.

Again, on what grounds are you voting?

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How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

What would your other top scum lynch for today be then? Diddin, lady L, Chrono? Untrod?

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How about this: If Kid can formulate two good scum reads then I'm for allowing him to kill himself tonight or be lynched in short order tomorrow.

What would your other top scum lynch for today be then? Diddin, lady L, Chrono? Untrod?

Nice job, throwing some names out there.

Why don't you put up some evidence for those names, before you throw them around?

If you can...

Otherwise, you're deflecting pressure off of you (there are people voting for you).

Most of it is from right here: http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p2554019

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If you can...

Otherwise, you're deflecting pressure off of you (there are people voting for you).

Half of the players voting us are voting based on our list of scum on page 19. After we posted, specifically Untrod and Cupcake both attacked us.

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Can anyone explain how a night zero cop work when we don't have a night zero, please =/.

Sigh.... have you ever heard of a day cop?

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Alright, no need to hold my vote back then.

Vote: Le Cupcake

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PLUSHIE: "sweetie...sub wants a votecount..."
BIG DADDY: "does he now?"
PLUSHIE: "shall i oblige him?"
BIG DADDY: "oblige away, m'love!"

I feel like we're mixing games.... this shouldn't be Bioshock flavor.

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Do we know that he was protected? He claimed to be, but he thought it was a day-vig situation.

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With Cucco's? The same thing that happened to substrike? How do you know that?

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OK, again: how do you know?

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Oh I wonder.

Secret powers.

If I were hit by a voteblock, it would affect me.

Essentially, what your saying is that you have a BP vest, and you ain't afraid to use it?

It doesn't work like that. it doesn't come off at all.

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He has been for a while now.

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Stop giving him fakeclaim ideas.

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@LLD: Daycops exist.

LOL. and you're so certain about these things.

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Settle down sparky. Misunderstanding is not misrepping.

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BS. Do we need to go through as to how many times you've mis-repped me thus far?

At least 3-5 times now.

I was just talking about this past time. You can rant and rave all you want about your other wild theories.

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So apparently Cupcake is ability-confirmed Bulletproof. I want to see that particular passive quoted in thread. Seeing the flavor behind it will assist in determining alignment.

So he claims. We have no way of knowing, other than his word, that the cuccos were a kill attempt. The cuccos just made substrike voteless.

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Nikanor, was your info-get a single-use? If so, you might as well post the relevant ability text.

This is a scummy question and it is noted.

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i don't know if i should try to read this game thorugh, because of my roll a lot of people are seem angry and certain about things. then there are all these claims??

i think dramonic is playing joke on me to make me sign up for this game because my roll is stupid and based off ongoing joke IRL between me and him

Please, stop talking about your role. Read the game, and post your concerns, thoughts, and top 6 scum picks.

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There is absolutely no reason for you to be making posts completely devoid of individual pro-town thought. Lurking and fluff. Are your scumbuddies busy paying attention to chesskid3 (whom they are potentially still bussing) to buss you? Heh. This wagon, not the monstrosity that is the blooderection wagon, needs to go places.

He's reading still, settle down. Do you have any reads that dont consist solely of lurking? Cause right now that's not a good read.

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Every active player in this game is either unlynchable or they are currently playing pro-townly. I, admittedly, have limited experience with large games, but the common denominator in all of them was that scum lurked. Far more than 50% of scum were lurkers. Thus, I beg to differ.

Translation: I don't want to bus my scum buddies who are playing badly, so I'll go on a lurker hunt and vilify some poor guy who is still catching up.

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You're honestly telling me that every single person that isn't inactive is a townie?

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You're honestly telling me that every single person that isn't inactive is a townie?

I'm not certain of it, but I haven't found anything particularly scummy. However, for instance, I'm conflicted on Lady Lambdadelta.

Could you elaborate on this conflict?

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Since I am on my way out, here is the too long; didn't read version: She's fairly scummy for reasons I will likely outline later, but she's committed a certain towntell that has proven reliable to this site meta. My stance on her is thus awaiting more information.

What is the tell? Are you planning on sharing anything with the town? Or is it enough for you to appear to be contributing?

why would it be so off if Nik was scum with Chess and the best way for him to save his buddy is fake claim cop?

There's a million reasons why this would be dumb. Chess has a suicide role, so right there, if he ever is forced by the town to suicide he flips Nik scum too. If he doesn't suicide when told, he is lynched, and again Nik's cover is blown. There are plenty of others, just use your imagination.

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Also, when Cupcake almost had a chicken jump her... a /BLUE FORCE FIELD/ appeared.

This didn't happen.

You'd think people arguing in the great plains of Hyrule would attract monsters...
Anyways, you argue loudly about how obviously the one going under the pseudonym of "Chesskid" is horribly suspicious.
As representative of all races bicker frantically, one of you turn and see...

"Hey... what's that big cloud?"
"I... don't think that's a cloud..."
"Oh my god... HYSTERIC CUCCO FLOCK, RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!"

As all of you scatter in order to avoid the threat of CHICKENS, Le Cupcake trips.
Upon seconds, the Cuccos are upon him, doing what Cuccos do best:
...Vanish in flashy blue particles?

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Vanish in flashy blue particles...?

I'm fairly sure that's equal to a force field. Sorry I wasn't specific enough.

Thats a bit of a stretch to assume they are the same. I'm not saying they aren't, but you're a little too sure.

Though I do agree that I'm scummy in every way possible, no matter what my role is XD

Don't try to laugh off legitimate accusations. Scummy.

LLD needs to die. I'm willing to let Le Cup ride for the moment, although I am not totally convinced.

Unvote
Vote: LLD

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Please, someone make a summary, it is impossible to go through all these pages. At least point me to some important posts, damn it, have some mercy.

This is truth. i started readin but everytime i take a break theres more pages to read and not much makes sense.

with this many people were almost better off lynching randomly

also instead of claiming i will simply show u why i have no motivation:

Vote: Mafuyu

Why don't you just self vote that way we can lynch randomly and lynch a lurker.

EBWOP: You're really defending him, is my point.

Argument A was presented by ythan against you, You defended with argument B. We vote you based on argument B.

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WOW. I ASK FOR LOGIC, OR PROOF. AND YOU REFUSE.

OBVSCUM MUCH? LOL

"KEEP WHINING". AGAIN. YOU JUST KEEP PROVING ME RIGHT YTHAN. GO AHEAD. I JUST PRAY TOWN SEES THIS TOO.

Learn2read.

Also, you're not allowed to use all caps. Fate should rape you a new asshole.

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All I can accuse you of, is not using logic, or saying anything real, which I have done, and you push that aside as "whining".

Translation: I really have no case against ythan and just want to chainsaw defense my scumbuddy.

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All I can accuse you of, is not using logic, or saying anything real, which I have done, and you push that aside as "whining".

Translation: I really have no case against ythan and just want to chainsaw defense my scumbuddy.

lol, I love how you say that, but in reality, the only thing you've done since arriving here, is defend Ythan.

Attacking the same person is not the same as defending.

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Ythan, join the scum Lady L wagon. Cumcake is tomorrow.

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Except that he hasn't only or even primarily defending me and certainly not with a chainsaw. Which is what you're doing.

I'm only defending you because you're obv town -.-

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@mod: There are 8 total not voting. Perhaps Zoneface was voting Lady L, and is no longer?

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Except that he hasn't only or even primarily defending me and certainly not with a chainsaw. Which is what you're doing.

I'm only defending you because you're obv town -.-

LOL WHAT?

YTHAN IS ANYTHING BUT OBV-TOWN.

However, thank you for re-enforcing my claim that you are protecting him. I'll be quoting this from now on, as evidence.

Yo, l2p. If I see someone and I have a town read on them.... then i defend them when they are accused of and the case on them is total shit.

I called you scum back on page 19 iirc. Oh yea... i called you obv scum... thanks for OMGUS

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I miss arguing with chesskid.

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Oh... I get it... you're distancing yourself from the possibly lynch... so when he flips town.... ahhhh!!! Nice play!

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Oh... I get it... you're distancing yourself from the possibly lynch... so when he flips town.... ahhhh!!! Nice play!

@_@

What?

I've just placed my whole game into this lynch. I firmly believe he is scum. You think I'd risk this lynch, by trying to open a backdoor out? Hell no!

I'm on Ythan to the end of this.

Because he doesn't believe a roleclaim?

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@mod: There are 8 total not voting. Perhaps Zoneface was voting Lady L, and is no longer?

Did you miss the part where this has been an issue since early on? I mentioned it twice in my catchup posts. It's possible that the current situation actually narrows it down further. I may check on that at some point, but not now. No time now.

Clarification from mod obtained. I love it when my scumreads all group together. Sorry Nikanor, but the day aspect of your role should make this irrelevant to you.

No lynching one of my strongest town reads.

ROLLING ATTACK: YTHAN'S WAGON

IF THIS DOES WHAT I THINK IT DOES.... I MAY FUCKING LOVE YOU KAI!

FUCK YES!

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Kai is obvtown.

Lady L is fishing now too

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Honestly, this is pointless even now.

Actually, that flavor is more of a Goron.

The wagon will disperse now, and we will be rendered unable to vote (Ythan) for the remainder of day.

-sigh-

How do you assume that much?

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FUCKING SHIFTS!!! DAMNIT!!!

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It's not me this time

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Kai probably should have waited to mention the shift xD would have been lulz to hear it in twilight xD

I have to concur with ythan. Cupcake kept attacking me, then wouldn't defend against the accusations i had against her. She said she would wait for her other head to answer.... they have still yet to answer -.-

Unvote:
Vote: le Cupcake

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Wait. Nik, does your role info still clear Chess, even knowing there's a shift?

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Yeah, I just wanted to re-evaluate all we "know" in light of the possible shift.

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Wait. Nik, does your role info still clear Chess, even knowing there's a shift?

Chess being cleared is completely irrelevant to today's lynch. If it is determined that there is a shift then he is still prob-town, and if people REALLY don't think he's town, he can STILL suicide tonight. Lynching him is utterly pointless.

True, but if there WAS a shift.... that means he's not cleared, and someone else is that we don't know of.

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Any response yet from the mods?

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@Ythan: Can you explain to me briefly why Le Cupcake is scum? I haven't actually had the chance to read anything after like page 40 yet. I just saw a wagon forming on you and jumped in to stop it.

Preview edit: I see that as Nikanor being silly, which doesn't necessitate being scum. Unless you think he'd lie about cop results as town?

My reasons for her being scum.

I posted a scumlist in my first post pretty much, she OMGUS's me and attacks me. i defend and ask her things. She responds "I'll let my other head answer that." I keep defending myself/attacking her, She responds again with, "i'll let the other head answer."

And other reasons listed on my page 19 post.

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No objections. Cupcake really needs to do this, and should have long ago.

Agreed.

@Kai: Cater is usually calmer than I am... so thats how you can tell the difference between us. And as for the name... it was a typo error on my part

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Nor do I understand why Cupcake is scum either. Its like anyone who claims will be called scum lol

See page 19.

I've played OoT a few times, and am itching to play right now.

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Bunny doesn't see why their scum and attempts to undermine the cases, possibly without reading them, with some kind of a joke. And he accuses me but distances from it because of my playstyle. Yeah this is not good.

We need a mass vig on our side : (

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Mod: Votecount please =D

Albert.... what would you suggest then?

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Why don't you just self vote that way we can lynch randomly and lynch a lurker.

I'm thinking the opposite, actually.

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For shits and giggles I just did a google search for my role name, and near the top of the very first result was the quote that my role PM starts with, so I'd say that point against Cupcake is null.

now we know where reck got his flavor

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http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Nayru_(goddess)

Nowhere do I see aquatic. or any references.

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Well look at that.

Hot damn!

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If you look at my iso, in the OTHER Zelda wiki, there are LOTS of references to water, zoras and awuatic nature.

That doesn't help if that's not the site that Reck+dram used.

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Hmmm... Mafuya only has one vote even though two people are voting her?

Mod?

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The votecount is correct.

word.

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/sigh

I think I took zwet's vote away.

Also, I think I figured out Aikage's issue with his role. He's the voteless one.

According to Lady L, my modifier should be Dark. It is not.

Perhaps... hmm..

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/sigh

I think I took zwet's vote away.

Also, I think I figured out Aikage's issue with his role. He's the voteless one.

According to Lady L, my modifier should be Dark. It is not.

wait? with your activated role? damn, i thought you were gonna actually stop the ythan wagon

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It means that there is a shift. Magnitude 13, direction up, or magnitude 16, direction down. It ALSO means that our mods are on the playerlist as player 0 (a Tarhalindur concept I personally employ). I know this because my ability targets the person being wagoned (in this case Ythan), so in order to remove zwet's vote, it would have to be shifted to Reckamonic.

Interesting.

Whoever is causing the shift.... it's more pro-town for you to claim your role and tell the town what the shifts are. It happened in Reck's last game, Mad Mad Mad mafia... I caused the shift in that game.

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I don't think so. Le Cup got targeted by something.

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I thought this was just supposed to be a swingy game?

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Now, personally I think that Nayru would not be contained to a scum's fakeclaim in this game. This game's flavour is about ridding the land of evil, and the goddesses are always involved in that feat, for as much as I understand LoZ. Therefore it makes the most sense to me for Nayru to be town. Does that not make sense to you people?

The goddesses are not actually characters in the game. They are mentioned in the game's mythology, but that doesn't mean they're automatically in the game. I would think that we would only have characters that Link could interact with. That's just IMO. A goddess claim rings false to me because she isn't really in the game.

Nayrus in the game dude. She gives Link the spell Nayrus Love.

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because volunteering to be vanillized (the first 1-2 people who did it) = towntell.

This isn't true. A goon could easily volunteer to appear town.

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The BloodCov part of this hydra is VLA till Monday night probably. working 25 hours in these two days.

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Ok guys... this is getting rather boring. no real content has occurred since Cupcake and LLD outed themselves. We need lynches. And now.

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I think this is a good analysis?

Funny. I actually don't like it at all. usually players are not able to target themselves. Why would this game be any different. I think you're overanalyzing this situation WAY too much. He practically screamed bulletproof.

Also, please stop /using/ these /damn/ fucking slashes.

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Oh fuck you. I was commenting on your second part which was rather obvious.

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Still D1?


lulz

Yea dude. we need a cupcake wagon booooooooosttt!

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Cupcake is obvtown what the hell are you talking about?

what the fuck dude?

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-.-

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My eyes are bleeding.

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Or you should stop posting.

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True. We played 3 games at Caffwagon where he punished us for killing him.

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I had a great idea for a bastard moddery game mechanic. "Beloved Moderator" Like a princess, only nastier, because I'd revive as a player too.

But Reck's a fan of punisher mechanics on a mod's lynch. Although Dram had a good thing on a mod lynch in cross edge...

EXAMPLE #42 OF WHY CHRONO SHOULD BE DEAD.

WHY THE FUCK WAS I VOTING LL ANYWAY?

VOTE: CHRONOPIE

Point out #1-41 kthx.

Unvote:
Vote: Chronopie

no need to explain those points.

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1. Untrod Tripod -scum

2. DTMaster - town
3. Fate - town
4. Nikanor - leaning town
5. jmj3000 - leaning town
6. Kairyuu - null
7. Exilon - null
8. Just a Bit Off-Center - null/town

9. Le Cupcake - scum
11. GandalfIzSik - leaning scum

12. Chronopie - scum

13. Ythan - town

14. diddin - scum

15. evilpacman18 - null
16. Dekes - null
17. ZazieR - null/flakes

18. mothrax - scum
19. Lady Lambdadelta - obv scum, like... needs to die

20. zwetschenwasser - null/town
21. Jenniwren - null/scum
22. Substrike22 - null

23. Mafuyu - town

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24. chesskid3 - meh... scum
25. Albert B. Rampage - null

26. Kdub - null/scum
27. bunnylover - scum

28. Aikage - null

*Edited because i posted before i heard a comment from my other head.

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also:

Unvote; Vote Blooderection

obvsheep is obv.

Feels like an OMGUS.

I called him scum thirty pages ago. BACKDAFUCKUP!

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18. mothrax - scum

I've said it before and I will say it again: on what grounds?
All I have seen is "lol mothrax is scum" and the like.
Case or gtfo.

Like... omg.... read page 19!

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Must have been a gut. Or something... yea, something my other head stated in our QT.

18. mothrax - scum

I've said it before and I will say it again: on what grounds?
All I have seen is "lol mothrax is scum" and the like.
Case or gtfo.

Also you're too defensive. One person calling you scum shouldn't make you freak out.

still don't like you're attitude.

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You have to look at it from my perspective... ok? A lot of people were attacking me when i came in guns blazing with a scum list, most of those people are still likely scum and have yet to explain themselves. So i point back to page 19, usually helps. it didn't this time sadly.

But my list was more likely first..... i do believe.

I follow Fate because he's Obviously town.

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Really? Cause I don't see it... pay special attention to the "Cupcake will out herself as scum" to "Cupcake is obvtown" contradiction.

I still think cupcake is scummy. so back the fuck up. like I said before.

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Besides, not everyone is perfect.

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BE:

Give a reason for all your scum reads in your next post or daysuicide.

Then join me on the GIS lynch.

@ Fate:

Requesting formal entrance into the caps lawke alliance provided I don't have to caps lawke. Also DEMANDING a GIS vote.

I can't believe you just asked me that.

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Christ.... ythan... we need to get a fucking lynch going. Who is the top wagon? CAN WE LYNCH LLD NOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW FOR THE HUNDREDTH TIME TRYING!!!!

unvote:
Vote: LLD

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There's no point in leading a bandwagon with this many players in the game. Be patient and let the chips fall where they may and you might be gladly surprised.

I'll be giddy with joy when this happens.

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I haven't found anything....but reck did start picking his nose when I mentioned Lady Lambada....could be a tell, or could be nothing at all.

That's good enough for me.

Hahahahah yes xD

anyways... cupcake and LLD need to both die. one today, and one tomorrow.

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Ok... i could hammer right now if people wanted me to. However... let the record be known that i would MUCH rather lynch LLD or Cupcake because both are more scummy, and are more likely to be scum

/rant-what i've been saying the whole game.

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Because Chronopie and Substrike, if town, should have been attacking at least one or two of the neighbors. If they were not attacking at least one of their neighbors, they are scum. It would give me a much better read on two of the main lynch candidates of the day.

This is really WIFOMy. Unconfirmed is unconfirmed. Scum bus. There are too many ways for you to scoot out of this.

Vote: Nikanor

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lol

A wild BE scum appeared...

Vote: BE

Yes, very clever. Explain your vote.

That's what I want them to do. If they fail to find anyone in their group scummy, they are scum.

This is so WIFOM. You're reaching.

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BE, voting masons = good idea... how?

I think they're all scum.

OR MAYBE THEY WANT ME TO THINK THEY'RE SCUM, SO THEY AREN'T ATTACKING ANYONE IN THEIR NEIGHBOR GROUP.

You're saying, "Tell us who you suspect in the group." Which lets everyone know who is in the group. I don't think this is info that needs to be let out right now. What you are saying the town would gain is not true.

Scenario 1: They are scum. They claim to be suspicious of one of their own. In your book, they get protown points and if that person is lynched scum it looks pretty good for the rest of them. That's how scum bussing works.

Scenario 2: There is a scum in their group. They suspect him. Just normal scumhunting that doesnt need to have his affiliation as a neighbor laid out.

Scenario 3: There is a scum in their group. They don't suspect him. We've outed neighbors for nothing.

Scenario 4: There is no scum in the group. We again, have outed neighbors for nothing and gone on a wild goose chase.

How again does this help the town any more than run of the mill scum hunting? It doesnt. You're looking for bonus info that helps you kill PRs before they hurt you.

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Investigation? Also, why the fuck did you just do that?

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You are saying that you got a guilty on LL? Or that you think she is scum?

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SO PLEASE,. BY ALL MEANS, TELL ME I'M A "BOSS SCUM".

CONFIRM YOURSELF A SCUM FOR ME <3

Oh yeah, coming out as a cop with a guilty result on claimed masons is a super-excellent scum gambit. Yep.

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Just did an ISO read. You said she was scum a lot, but I'd hardly call that breadcrumbing.

Also, I just wanted to be sure before I threw my vote. The way you worded it was a bit ambiguous. Anyways, there's only one logical move.

Unvote; Vote: LLD

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It's not WIFOM. It's just looking at the possible outcomes. If you're not scum, we hit him tomorrow and it confirms your mason buddies. If you are, we get 2 more scum for free.

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Nikanor can you confirm the ability shift last night? This is important.

Why would you ask Nik to confirm? He's the last person we should ask.

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Or you're lying about being PGO so people don't target you.

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unvote; Vote: Blooderection

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So I read over things but I guess I'm missing the discussion of Substrike's claim. Can anyone point me to an approximate page?