Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[DrippingGoofball]

Deadline on the 17th and I'm not on the leading wagon???

Wut

Did BloodE claim cop or doc or sumthin'?

[DrippingGoofball]

Jesus. I'm replacing in a 110+ pages game and no one is helping me?

Oh alright, I iso'd BloodE and with

7

pages

of posts, verbiage and typing diarrhea, his last

3 single posts

are dated Oct 28, Nov 3, and Nov 10.

So he's lurking caught scum. Good enough for me.

VOTE: Blooderection

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey guys

Have you started with the wagon analysis? In other words, I'm too lazy to make a wagon database while replacing a 120 page game - ESPECIALLY if someone has done it already.

If no one has, then I will do it. I believe the game is ripe for it.

[DrippingGoofball]

Thanks - I want more than the main wagon yesterday, I want all wagons of significance! I guess I'll iso the mod for votecounts... I have my work cut out for me.

[DrippingGoofball]

Alright, I'm working on color-coding the wagon analysis.

Can I have a list of confirmed townies & credible claims?

Thanks ahead.

[DrippingGoofball]

Roger that.

[DrippingGoofball]

What are these?

"Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

[DrippingGoofball]

Substrike22

(3): JaBOC,

Exilon

, KDub

Just A Bit Off-Center

(1):

Le Cupcake

Ythan (1):

Nikanor

Lady Lambdadelta

(3): zwetschenwasser,

chesskid3

,Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia

chesskid3

(13):

Substrike22

,

JMJ3000

,

GandalfIzSik

,

Fate

, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Chronopie,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Untrod Tripod

, mothrax
diddin (1): DTmaster
Mothrax (1): ZazieR
Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy"
Not voting: Kairyuu/Beefster,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/nameloc1986, Aikage, Ythan

One orange scum + one purple scum:

(15 points each color)
Bunnylover
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
Chronopie
mothrax

Ythan (4):

Le Cupcake

,

Nikanor

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Chronopie

Le Cupcake

(6):

Substrike22

, Ythan,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

Exilon

,

Blooderection

,

chesskid3

, zwetschenwasser

Lady Lambdadelta

(2): Kairyuu/Beefster,

Fate

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy", Aikage
Mothrax (1): ZazieR
EvilPacman (1): JaBOC

chesskid3

(2): mothrax,

GandalfIzSik

Blooderection

(1): DTMaster
GandalfIzSik (1): KDub
Not voting:

JMJ3000

, ABR,Mafuyu/nameloc1986, Bunnylover, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Untrod Tripod

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka/, Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia

1/2 orange scum:

(25 orange points)
Ythan
zwetschenwasser

Le Cupcake

(1):

Untrod Tripod

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Blooderection

nameloc1986 (2): "Fluffy", "Bridget", Aikage

Blooderection

(1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (14): KDub, zwetschenwasser,

RayFrost

,

Fate

, ABR,

Le Cupcake

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Exilon

, Bunnylover,Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia,

Nikanor

,Kairyuu/Beefster, Chronopie,

Substrike22

, Ythan,

JMJ3000

Substrike22

(5):evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

chesskid3

, DTMaster, JaBOC,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

GandalfIzSik

Not voting: diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Mafuyu/nameloc1986

One orange scum + one purple scum:

(12 points each color)
KDub
zwetschenwasser
ABR
Bunnylover
Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia
Kairyuu/Beefster
Chronopie
Ythan

nameloc1986 (3): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot

Substrike22

(9): ABR, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Substrike22

,

RayFrost

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,Kairyuu/Beefster,

Nikanor

Blooderection

(5):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

, Ythan,Mafuyu/nameloc1986, mothrax
Dekes (1): DTMaster

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia
Not voting:

JMJ3000

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Aikage, KDub, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One orange scum:

(50 orange points)
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope

One purple scum:

(33 orange points)
Ythan
Mafuyu/nameloc1986
mothrax

nameloc1986 (5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(7): ABR, evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Kairyuu/Beefster, Ythan

Blooderection

(7):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/nameloc1986, mothrax,

RayFrost

,

Substrike22

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia
KDub (1):

Nikanor

mothrax (1): DTMaster
Not voting:

JMJ3000

, Aikage, KDub, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One orange scum:

(25 orange points)
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Kairyuu/Beefster
Ythan

Two purple scums:

(66 purple points)
Mafuyu/nameloc1986
mothrax
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

nameloc1986 (5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(2): Ythan, KDub

Blooderection

(13):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/nameloc1986, mothrax,

Substrike22

,

Nikanor

, Chronopie, Kairyuu/Beefster, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

RayFrost

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

Knight of Cydonia (2):Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
mothrax (1): DTMaster
Aikage (1): evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Not voting:

JMJ3000

, Aikage

One orange scum + one purple scum:

(15 points each color)
Mafuyu/nameloc1986
mothrax
Chronopie
Kairyuu/Beefster
Bunnylover
ABR

[DrippingGoofball]

PURPLE SCUM POINTS

114 Mafuyu/nameloc1986
114 mothrax
66 diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
45 Ythan
42 ABR
42 Bunnylover
42 Kairyuu/Beefster
27 Chronopie
12 KDub
12 zwetschenwasser
12 Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia

ORANGE SCUM POINTS

117 ABR
90 evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
74 Ythan
42 Bunnylover
42 Chronopie
37 zwet
37 Jenniwren/Knight of Cydonia
30 mothrax
27 Kairyuu/Beefster
15 diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
15 Mafuyu/nameloc1986
12 KDub

Now I hope I didn't make a compiling error, I kept finding mistakes, I hope there are no more, but I may have to double-check later. I have to run out and make supper for my mother-in-law.

Maybe someone else can explain the wagon analysis? It's pretty standard now, and especially effective in large games.

Anyone especially scummy in the list below?

114 Mafuyu/nameloc1986
114 mothrax
66 diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
117 ABR
90 evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
74 Ythan

[DrippingGoofball]

My sister-in-law is going to make supper, so I'm back.

Gandalf is town, OK, but that doesn't change the results since he's garnered no scum points, but I'll fix it for the next round.

I just realized that AKnottedRope = AKR

[DrippingGoofball]

Le Cupcake, you have 6 pages of posts, which one is your "Ythan post"?

[DrippingGoofball]

How do you assign the points?

SUM OF P{scum}*100

[DrippingGoofball]

Aikage: the numbers are based on the number of scums I expect to find on any given wagon. If a wagon has 3 unknown-alignment players left, and I believe there is one uncovered scum in the wagon, each has a 1/3 probability of being scum. P{scum=.33}*100 = 33 points. Then I add up the numbers for all the wagons.

It's interesting that while nameloc seems to have been flying under the radar behaviorally speaking, he scores very high on the wagon analysis. Am I wrong about him generally flying under the radar?

[DrippingGoofball]

I find Nameloc townie because of his claimed role

and he wanted to do a suicide PR plan that involves himself

. Vezok I find mildly scummy enough to keep tabs on. AKR I need to reread. Ythan I also need to reread.

Why is nameloc the vote leader then?

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, no one has told me what

"Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

are. I just realized that these are the nameloc voters. Disregard my previous post.

[DrippingGoofball]

So nameloc/Mafuyu has a post restriction? Mmmm, recalling DTMaster's comment about nameloc having a suicide plan, plus a post restriction, this player slot is probably town.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is Aikage stalling a claim?

[DrippingGoofball]

Iso'ing Aikage reveals 18 posts since Oct 6.

[DrippingGoofball]

Looking back at my vote analysis, Aikage is pretty much not voting whenever there is a significant wagon happenning.

[DrippingGoofball]

Where there is stalling, there is scum.

VOTE: AIKAGE

[DrippingGoofball]

Did you not claim miller?

[DrippingGoofball]

Aikage hasn't claimed, and is still alive?

[DrippingGoofball]

Mothrax is awesomely townie, just sayin'

[DrippingGoofball]

He is scum for failing to claim. He is lazy scum not wanting to bother with a complicated fake claim. Can we lynch him already?

[DrippingGoofball]

He is scum for failing to claim. He is lazy scum not wanting to bother with a complicated fake claim. Can we lynch him already?

So what makes you think he is scum instead of being a terribly fail player?

If he were just plain FAIL, he'd post his role PM and get it over with.

But he has a scum PM, so...

[DrippingGoofball]

Also, DGB, what do you think to the possibility of scum having daychat?

It doesn't make a difference in my scumhunting.

[DrippingGoofball]

If that last question relates to Aikage's lack of claim, I wouldn't be surprised if his buddies weren't inclined to provide him with one. Largely because of the amount of work that has to be involved in making one.

[DrippingGoofball]

His last post was Nov 29. He's due soon.

[DrippingGoofball]

I thought we didn't have a vig.

[DrippingGoofball]

Replace'n'Claim

The replacement claims in first post.

I'd be happy with that. We're not letting the Aikage player slot get away with this.

[DrippingGoofball]

WOW

This is the most complex voteless pseudovanilla role EVER

UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

DTMaster is so full of awesome, I just want to vote whoever she's voting.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have no idea what is going on anymore...

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm just going to vote whoever DTMaster is voting.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah, I was too lazy to check until now.

VOTE: Beefster

[DrippingGoofball]

Also a DGB sheep is scary. A DGB rabid wolf pack leader is what I expect.

Some games leave little room for me to lead, for instance, games that feature both Fate and I.

And I sure can't dazzle anyone with my canny interpretation of flavor stuff; I know nothing of the flavor and need to rely on others.

[DrippingGoofball]

1)Fate is in the game

No, I listed him as an

example

. That's why I used the qualifier "FOR INSTANCE." That's to prepare you for the upcoming statement serving as an EXAMPLE only. I never "dominate" in games he's in. He tends to out-multiple-post me. In this game, multiple players are combining to have a similar effect. I expect a player like ABR to dominate, too, but in this game, he's not. Each game has its own rhythm and balance in which we try to fit in.

2) You don't know the flavor

I have nothing to bring to the table, role-wise. I'm 45. I don't play ANY video games, it's all rubbish to me. I can hear other players' arguments and make decisions based on credibility.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'll be around until deadline so if the Beefster wagon isn't going anywhere, I'll switch to Aikage or KoC to prevent a no lynch.

I'm up for that, but I find Beefster's reaction the least comforting, from among this lot.

[DrippingGoofball]

UNVOTE:

VOTE: KoC

[DrippingGoofball]

Except for the part that I'm a miller...

Wut?

[DrippingGoofball]

Substrike22

(3): JaBOC,

Exilon

,

Kdub

Just A Bit Off-Center

(1):

Le Cupcake

Ythan (1):

Nikanor

Lady Lambdadelta

(3): zwetschenwasser,

chesskid3

,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

chesskid3

(13):

Substrike22

,

JMJ3000

,

GandalfIzSik

,

Fate

, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Chronopie,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Untrod Tripod

, mothrax
diddin (1): DTmaster
Mothrax (1): ZazieR
Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy"
Not voting: Kairyuu/Beefster,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

,

Aikage

, Ythan

One orange scum + one purple scum:

(15 points each color)
Bunnylover
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
Chronopie
mothrax

Ythan (4):

Le Cupcake

,

Nikanor

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Chronopie

Le Cupcake

(6):

Substrike22

, Ythan,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

Exilon

,

Blooderection

,

chesskid3

, zwetschenwasser

Lady Lambdadelta

(2): Kairyuu/Beefster,

Fate

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy",

Aikage

Mothrax (1): ZazieR
EvilPacman (1): JaBOC

chesskid3

(2): mothrax,

GandalfIzSik

Blooderection

(1): DTMaster
GandalfIzSik (1):

Kdub

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, ABR,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, Bunnylover, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Untrod Tripod

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka/, Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

1/2 orange scum:

(25 orange points)
Ythan
zwetschenwasser

Le Cupcake

(1):

Untrod Tripod

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Blooderection

nameloc1986

(2): "Fluffy", "Bridget",

Aikage

Blooderection

(1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (14):

Kdub

, zwetschenwasser,

RayFrost

,

Fate

, ABR,

Le Cupcake

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Exilon

, Bunnylover,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

,

Nikanor

,Kairyuu/Beefster, Chronopie,

Substrike22

, Ythan,

JMJ3000

Substrike22

(5):evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

chesskid3

, DTMaster, JaBOC,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

GandalfIzSik

Not voting: diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

One orange scum:

(15 points)
zwetschenwasser
ABR
Bunnylover
Kairyuu/Beefster
Chronopie
Ythan

nameloc1986

(3): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot

Substrike22

(9): ABR, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Substrike22

,

RayFrost

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,Kairyuu/Beefster,

Nikanor

Blooderection

(5):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

, Ythan,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax
Dekes (1): DTMaster

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One orange scum:

(50 orange points)
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope

One purple scum:

(50 orange points)
Ythan
mothrax

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(7): ABR, evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Kairyuu/Beefster, Ythan

Blooderection

(7):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

RayFrost

,

Substrike22

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Kdub

(1):

Nikanor

mothrax (1): DTMaster
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One orange scum:

(25 orange points)
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Kairyuu/Beefster
Ythan

Two purple scums:

(100 purple points)
mothrax
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(2): Ythan,

Kdub

Blooderection

(13):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

Substrike22

,

Nikanor

, Chronopie, Kairyuu/Beefster, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

RayFrost

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

KnightofCydonia

(2):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
mothrax (1): DTMaster

Aikage

(1): evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

One orange scum + one purple scum:

(20 points each color)
mothrax
Chronopie
Kairyuu/Beefster
Bunnylover
ABR

I'll do the totals later.

[DrippingGoofball]

@DGB: YOU NEED TO REDO YOUR ANALYSIS, ORANGE IS SK

Did anyone tell me this before, and I failed to commit to memory? Are we sure orange is SK? What is gray?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan is town, I don't know why that's even being discussed.

[DrippingGoofball]

Substrike22

(3): JaBOC,

Exilon

,

Kdub

Just A Bit Off-Center

(1):

Le Cupcake

Ythan (1):

Nikanor

Lady Lambdadelta

(3): zwetschenwasser,

chesskid3

,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

chesskid3

(13):

Substrike22

,

JMJ3000

,

GandalfIzSik

,

Fate

, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Chronopie,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Untrod Tripod

, mothrax
diddin (1): DTmaster
Mothrax (1): ZazieR
Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy"
Not voting: Kairyuu/Beefster,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

,

Aikage

, Ythan

One purple scum:

(15 points each color)
Bunnylover
ABR
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
Chronopie
mothrax

Ythan (4):

Le Cupcake

,

Nikanor

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Chronopie

Le Cupcake

(6):

Substrike22

, Ythan,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

Exilon

,

Blooderection

,

chesskid3

, zwetschenwasser

Lady Lambdadelta

(2): Kairyuu/Beefster,

Fate

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy",

Aikage

Mothrax (1): ZazieR
EvilPacman (1): JaBOC

chesskid3

(2): mothrax,

GandalfIzSik

Blooderection

(1): DTMaster
GandalfIzSik (1):

Kdub

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, ABR,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, Bunnylover, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Untrod Tripod

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka/, Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

1/2 purple scum:

(25 points)
Ythan
zwetschenwasser

Le Cupcake

(1):

Untrod Tripod

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Blooderection

nameloc1986

(2): "Fluffy", "Bridget",

Aikage

Blooderection

(1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (14):

Kdub

, zwetschenwasser,

RayFrost

,

Fate

, ABR,

Le Cupcake

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Exilon

, Bunnylover,Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

,

Nikanor

,Kairyuu/Beefster, Chronopie,

Substrike22

, Ythan,

JMJ3000

Substrike22

(5):evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

chesskid3

, DTMaster, JaBOC,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

GandalfIzSik

Not voting: diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka, Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

One purple scum:

(15 points)
zwetschenwasser
ABR
Bunnylover
Kairyuu/Beefster
Chronopie
Ythan

nameloc1986

(3): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot

Substrike22

(9): ABR, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Substrike22

,

RayFrost

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,Kairyuu/Beefster,

Nikanor

Blooderection

(5):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

, Ythan,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax
Dekes (1): DTMaster

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

One purple scum:

(50 purple points)
Ythan
mothrax

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(7): ABR, evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Kairyuu/Beefster, Ythan

Blooderection

(7):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

RayFrost

,

Substrike22

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Kdub

(1):

Nikanor

mothrax (1): DTMaster
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

,

Kdub

, Chronopie, Bunnylover

Two purple scums:

(100 purple points)
mothrax
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(2): Ythan,

Kdub

Blooderection

(13):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,Mafuyu/

nameloc1986

, mothrax,

Substrike22

,

Nikanor

, Chronopie, Kairyuu/Beefster, Bunnylover, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

RayFrost

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

KnightofCydonia

(2):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
mothrax (1): DTMaster

Aikage

(1): evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

One purple scum:

(20 points each color)
mothrax
Chronopie
Kairyuu/Beefster
Bunnylover
ABR

=============================

TOTALS
185 mothrax
115 diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
90 Ythan
50 Bunnylover
50 ABR
40 zwet
35 Kairyuu/Beefster
35 Chronopie
15 evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
15 Chronopie

Looks like mothrax need be dead.

VOTE: mothrax

[DrippingGoofball]

Is that a scum group or a SK or a survivor thingie?

[DrippingGoofball]

If the gray stuff is a scumgroup, one of Ythan and zwet is almost guaranteed to be a gray scum, in addition to high likelihood of being purple scum.

But I don't think Ythan is scum.

zwet might very well be, miller claim and convenient abilities.

But the suspicion on mothrax applies no matter what.

I have to leave now, more when I return.

[DrippingGoofball]

Gray is definitely a scum faction. Look at the flip. It appears to be the boss-scum faction.

If it's flavr-related, I'll take your word for it.[/quote]

Why don't you think Ythan is scum?

Mega-gut.

Good point about zwet, though.

I know, I know.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yo DGB!

Nice way to leave yourself off all the vote counts you accumulated "scum points" for.

I know my alignment.

[DrippingGoofball]

Mothrax is still alive?

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey guys

We need to knot the rope for mothrax.

Also, zwet is scum.

Shall we get rid of him? I have a way.

[DrippingGoofball]

WTF

I didn't target Beefster, I targeted Ythan!!!!!!!!!!!

[DrippingGoofball]

On another note, how does an action immune player die from a night kill...?

Something's not quite right, here.

[DrippingGoofball]

Even if I'd targeted Beefster... he wouldn't be dead. I have no harmful actions. I targeted Ythan with a BENEVOLENT action. Beefster turns up dead, with me as having targeted him... that's, like, seven layers of wrong, right there.

[DrippingGoofball]

If there's another shift, I'm gonna killabitch.

What kind of switch would that be, even my action is completely wrong.

[DrippingGoofball]

2. DTMaster

Player the frog says I targeted:

Player that died:

6. Beefster
9. Le Cupcake

Player that died:

12. Chronopie

Player I actually targeted with non-lethal action

: 13. Ythan
14. diddin ZONEACE replaced D1 vezokpiraka replaced D2

Did someone target???

15. evilpacman18 Hinduragi replaced D1 AKnottedRope replaced D2
16. Dekes DrippingGoofball replaced D2
18. mothrax
19. Lady Lambdadelta
20. zwetschenwasser
25. Albert B. Rampage

[DrippingGoofball]

Substrike22

(3):

JaBOC

,

Exilon

,

Kdub

Just A Bit Off-Center

(1):

Le Cupcake

Ythan (1):

Nikanor

Lady Lambdadelta

(3): zwetschenwasser,

chesskid3

,

Jenniwren/KnightofCydonia

chesskid3

(13):

Substrike22

,

JMJ3000

,

GandalfIzSik

,

Fate

,

Bunnylover

, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Chronopie

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Untrod Tripod

, mothrax
diddin (1): DTmaster
Mothrax (1): ZazieR -

not on player list, right?

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy"
Not voting: Kairyuu/

Beefster

,

Blooderection

,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

,

Aikage

, Ythan

PURPLE
zwetschenwasser 100

DTmaster

GRAY
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope 33
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka 33
mothrax 33

Ythan (4):

Le Cupcake

,

Nikanor

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Chronopie

Le Cupcake

(6):

Substrike22

, Ythan,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

Exilon

,

Blooderection

,

chesskid3

, zwetschenwasser

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Kairyuu/Beefster

,

Fate

Mafuyu (1): "Fluffy",

Aikage

Mothrax (1): ZazieR -

not on player list, right?

EvilPacman (1):

JaBOC

chesskid3

(2): mothrax,

GandalfIzSik

Blooderection

(1): DTMaster
GandalfIzSik (1):

Kdub

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, ABR,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

,

Bunnylover

, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Untrod Tripod

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka/,

Jenniwren/KnightofCydonia

PURPLE

Ythan

zwetschenwasser 50

GRAY

Ythan

zwetschenwasser 50

Le Cupcake

(1):

Untrod Tripod

Lady Lambdadelta

(2):

Blooderection

nameloc1986

(2): "Fluffy", "Bridget",

Aikage

Blooderection

(1): mothrax
GandalfIzSik (14):

Kdub

, zwetschenwasser,

RayFrost

,

Fate

, ABR,

Le Cupcake

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Exilon

,

Bunnylover

,

Jenniwren/KnightofCydonia

,

Nikanor

,

Kairyuu/Beefster

,

Chronopie

,

Substrike22

, Ythan,

JMJ3000

Substrike22

(5):evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

chesskid3

, DTMaster,

JaBOC

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

GandalfIzSik

Not voting: diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

PURPLE
zwetschenwasser 50
ABR 50

Ythan

GRAY
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope 50
DTMaster 50

[DrippingGoofball]

nameloc1986

(3): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot

Substrike22

(9): ABR, evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Substrike22

,

RayFrost

,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

Kairyuu/Beefster

,

Nikanor

Blooderection

(5):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

, Ythan,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

, mothrax
Dekes (1): DTMaster

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):

Jenniwren/KnightofCydonia

Not voting:

JMJ3000

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka,

Aikage

,

Kdub

,

Chronopie

,

Bunnylover

PURPLE

Ythan

mothrax 33

DTMaster

zwetschenwasser 33
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka 33

GRAY
ABR 50
evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope 50

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(7): ABR, evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

, Kairyuu/

Beefster

, Ythan

Blooderection

(7):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

, mothrax,

RayFrost

,

Substrike22

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

jenniwren (1):Jenniwren/

KnightofCydonia

Kdub

(1):

Nikanor

mothrax (1): DTMaster
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

,

Kdub

,

Chronopie

,

Bunnylover

PURPLE
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka 50
mothrax 50

GRAY
ABR 25
evilpacman18 /Hinduragi/AKnottedRope,25
mothrax 12
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka 12

nameloc1986

(5): "Fluffy", "Bridget", A Flying Pot, Peahat, Tektite

Substrike22

(2): Ythan,

Kdub

Blooderection

(13):

Le Cupcake

,

Blooderection

,

Mafuyu/nameloc1986

, mothrax,

Substrike22

,

Nikanor

,

Chronopie

,

Kairyuu/Beefster

,

Bunnylover

, ABR,

Dekes/DrippingGoofball

,

chesskid3

,

Lady Lambdadelta

,

RayFrost

JMJ3000

(1): zwetschenwasser

Exilon

(1):

Exilon

KnightofCydonia

(2):

Jenniwren/KnightofCydonia

, diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka
mothrax (1): DTMaster

Aikage

(1): evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope
Not voting:

JMJ3000

,

Aikage

PURPLE
ABR 50

GRAY
mothrax 50
ABR 50

TOWN
Ythan (on account of the Substrike wagon)

[DrippingGoofball]

PURPLE SCUM

Zwet 100
ABR 50

GRAY SCUM

evilpacman18/Hinduragi/AKnottedRope 133
mothrax 83
ABR 50
zwet 50
diddin/ZONEACE/vezokpiraka 33

Zwet is almost certainly purple scum. Certainly, the claim fits, and we already have one dead miller, sooooo... I'm really not believing this one.

ABR may be town; his profile is straddling both teams.

AKR is almost certainly gray scum.

Mothrax continues to obe likely gray scum, though slightly less than yesterday.

vezok may be gray scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

"Ythan is town because he votes this person who later flipped scum".

That's not the reason at all, that's because there were two players on a dying purple scum wagon, one of whom was gray scum (which means that Ythan is extremely unlikely gray scum, and, for that matter, somewhat less likely purple scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

I believe I just told you to ISO and find evidence before throwing out more claims about peoples alignment merely based upon your analysis.

I don't iso a 150 page game unless I'm looking for something particular.

I find scum how I find scum. Obviously I use methods that are different from yours. I've been playing this game for years. I find that it works better than iso's.

Also. I believe I'm still a woman. So, you might want to consider changing "dude" to "toots."

P-Edit: Then why did you label him under "TOWN"? Also, how does that confirm shit? Maybe Grey scum have an investigative role, and would want Substrike dead

But then, they could NK him, soooo...

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: aikage was orange scum, why do you have him as red?

Ah, good question, I was going to spell it out, but I forgot.

If you look at the OP, Aikage isn't orange, Aikage is

DARK ORANGE

, while JaBoc and his lover are plain

ORANGE

.

They look the same to me on the screen, but it turns out, they are different.

So to make the distinction between "dark orange" and "orange" easier to see, I switched "dark orange" to "red."

[DrippingGoofball]

Frog said she visited Beefster.

Yeah, but I didn't. My target was Ythan. And I wasn't killing him, either.

[DrippingGoofball]

Also DGB: there's a lot of things you didn't add up right with your wagon analysis, and DTM's name is crossed through without any explanation. So... yeah, not liking that much.

Look. That's how *I* find scum. If you don't like the way I do it, make your own. I cannot imagine DTMaster being scum. And Ythan is town. So, I decide to eliminate them.

[DrippingGoofball]

Probably just a mod mistake, there's 5 different shades of color that all look the same on the color panel.

No, the colors from the panel come up as HEXADECIMAL.

They were WRITTEN IN by the mod as English color names.

Big difference.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why waste an NK when they can attempt to lynch him?

There were TWO people on this wagon, it has fizzled out completely. It was no longer a probable lynch.

P-Edit: Can I ask why we should believe that DGB?

I have no idea, someone else here must know something, I can't be the only one to whom something really upsetting has happened.

[/quote]

I'm Kaepora Gabora, some big giant owl. I guide, help and protect.

I freakin' targeted Ythan. The frog is drunk. And how Beefster turned up dead, I haven't a clue.

Lemme fetch my role PM.

[DrippingGoofball]

Let's see, she claims to have actioned me and I claim to have some knowledge that she's telling the truth. Use heads. Albert, you FoSing me now is at least kind of plausible but Lady quit being the worst player in the game by sheeping him so obviously.

THANK YOU

So

If you have knowledge that I targeted you, someone is messing with the frog, right?

Someone who killed Beefster is messing with the frog.

[DrippingGoofball]

They say that the owl named Kaepora Gaebora is the reincarnation of an ancient sage.

Welcome to Ocarina of Time Mafia,

DGB

. You are

Kaepora Gaebora

. You are a giant owl who sees fit to give guidance to the inhabitants of Hyrule, and as such, you have a deep personal investment in the survival of this fair land! So flap those wings and turn that head 180 degrees to see what you can see, because evil is at hand and must be defeated!

Race:

Giant Owl

Faction:

Hero

You are a

Guide and Protector

. You have the following special abilities:

Passive Abilities:

Sage of Light

- If investigated, your identity will show up as

Rauru

.

Active Abilities:

Guide

- Each night, you can target a player. You will be told if this player has a medallion, and what medallion they possess.

Bodyguard

- Each night, you can target a player. If this player is town, you will protect this player from death, if not, you will die.

Transport

- Each night, you may target two players. Unbeknownst to them, these players will switch targets with each other. .

Please remember that you can use only one active ability per phase.

Win Condition (Hero):

You win when all threats have been eliminated and the land of Hyrule is safe once again.

Please confirm via return PM.

The topic is here: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 53&start=0

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB if you targeted me and that's your ability then I assume you think I'm town so trust me when I say don't worry about it.

I thought I made it obvious last night, that if I died, you were my most likely target.

[DrippingGoofball]

Do you know how I know you're scum DGB? The name of the person you replaced isn't striked out.

That's exactly the way I got it! ??!!!???

[DrippingGoofball]

I didn't notice that. Didn't scum claim Rauru?

I don't know. I'm not Rauru. I don't know what the Rauru business is.

[DrippingGoofball]

I mod games and I don't erase most of my mails to keep a paper trail, I don't think 5 freakin' minutes is stalling.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's not stalling yet.

I posted it already.

[DrippingGoofball]

Look, there exist two plausible solutions to this. One involves you both telling the truth

I'm telling the truth.

I got a PM from the mod at twilight, basically explaining that the frog is a snitch.

So if I was scum, WHY ON EARTH WOULD I DO THE KILL ???????????????????

Head - use it.

[DrippingGoofball]

That's what I got.

Come on, guys, I'm pulling my hair out here.

[DrippingGoofball]

WHY

WHY would I do a factional kill when I know the frog is going to snitch????????????

ASK YOURSELF THIS QUESTION

[DrippingGoofball]

It is NOT LOGICAL that I be scum - I'd have buddies that can kill.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lady LD, you are SoooooooooooooooooOoooOoo frustrating.

Are you reading what I'm saying??????????

[DrippingGoofball]

And you guys being all "oohh well we shold give her benefit of the doubt durrr maybe frog wasn't right herp derp maybe she got her pm that way whan nobody else did derp derp durrr"

You're not using your head anymore than LLD.

WHY WOULD I KILL A PLAYER WHEN THE SNITCHING FROG IS ON MY HEAD

Good grief... I can't think you're town anymore. You're probably the one that has messed things up, and you have invested your powers in this gambit, and you want to see me mislynched.

[DrippingGoofball]

I don't know why she jumped to the assumption that the frog is somehow wrong. That wouldn't make any sense.

Because you say you have knowledge that I targeted you.

If that's true, then the frog is wrong.

Also, I don't have killing actions. I know that, at least, is wrong.

So if the frog is wrong about the target, AND the action is wrong... there is more than one level of monkeying around going.

If you don't have knowledge that I targeted you, then there is probably some stupid shift.

But even if there was a shift, Beefster should be alive, and I should be alive. Beefster shouldn't be dead!

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm telling you the truth.

Obviously, scum is behind this, and it's a riddle for us to solve.

I think a scumgroup (1) messed with the frog and (2) killed Beefster. That seems like the most likely scenario.

Unless someone else is prepared to come up with a better fitting solution to the puzzle.

[DrippingGoofball]

Lady LD, you are SoooooooooooooooooOoooOoo frustrating.

Are you reading what I'm saying??????????

I am reading what you are saying, but if your only defense is the frog on your head, then I can`t just back off for that.

Would you back off me if all I said was "It makes no sense because of the frog on my head"?

GAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

WHY, I ask you, why, if I were scum, and had buddies, why would I do the kill, knowing that I have a freakin' snitching frog on my head????????

ARGH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How can you possibly believe that??????????

[DrippingGoofball]

When I was ASKED to replace, I asked what role I'd be replacing into, because at the time, I had done several replacements in row, all of a certain evil faction.

I was sent a role PM outright, within minutes.

I said, OK.

I don't know if it has any bearing on formatting.

BUT EVEN SO

Let's suppose that I'm scum - why would I do the kill while I have the goddam snitching frog on my head????????

IT MAKES ZERO SENSE

[DrippingGoofball]

Al when you're coming up with something like this you probably shouldn't bitch at people you're freshly explaining it to for not reading your mind. You saying they're provided in a scum chat and so are not sent fresh to replacements?

I don't know!!!!!! I know that DGB's claim is not what it's supposed to be, and that is enough for me!

YOU ARE THE ONE THAT MESSED WITH THE FROG

You are blind to logic

I expect more from you than from the others

Unless you are scum

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm going to shot myself.

I'll be back only if I fail.

[DrippingGoofball]

Nobody even knew what the frog did

I SAID

I got a PM from the mod at twilight that TOLD ME that the frog would SNITCH on any action I would take

Good grief

You're scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

THis is the message I got from the MOD:

Oh my, there's an Eyeball Frog staring at you!

I bet it would snitch on you publicly if ever you did something fishy!

I mean, you could probably kill it instead of doing some other action for a phase...

And I can't kill so......

[DrippingGoofball]

Off to finding a bridge spanning rolling rapids, to jump from...

[DrippingGoofball]

REPEAT:

When I was ASKED to replace, I asked what role I'd be replacing into, because at the time, I had done several replacements in row, all of a certain evil faction.

I was sent a role PM outright, within minutes.

I said, OK.

I don't know if it has any bearing on formatting.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have no idea what went through the mod's heads, of which there are two. But maybe they didn't want to tell me WHO I'd be replacing until I'd agreed, because dram told me that in a separate message.

[DrippingGoofball]

Wait a second they DID send you the PM with your name in it but not the original player's. It doesn't make sense that they would not want to tell you who you were replacing.

I got the message from dram's account, it was a quick back and forth, I hesitated because of the size of the game, the heavy theme, and then I was scum in all my recent replacements and I wasn't keen on yet another, especially since I know nothing of the theme.

I can only surmise he was in a hurry.

[DrippingGoofball]

I find it odd that people did not discuss the possibility of busing (and even redirection but we have 2 re-directors flipped). We know based on Exlion's actions the frog does work. I find it more likely that the frog is working, and assuming DGB targetted Ythan we have the possiblity that DGB's action was redirected/bussed to Beefster.

But then, Beefster shouldn't have died.

[DrippingGoofball]

Then there is the fact that one of her abilities is eerily similar to one of mine, and I doubt there'd be two similar protective roles present amongst town, considering that we are pretty much town's main protective power.

Yet, you seem to have no trouble believing two milliers.

As for the flavor business, I have no idea. I just gave you my role PM, I can't help you with any of the meaning.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is there any danger in revealing some player's medallions from my investigations?

I have no idea what they mean.

[DrippingGoofball]

What are

YOU

talking about???

[DrippingGoofball]

They're medallions, not alignments. Take a valium.

[DrippingGoofball]

Neither Fate nor Bunnylover had medallions.
Vezok had fire medallion.
Ythan I bodyguarded with heavy breadcrumbing the day before.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am willing to hold onto the "she may have deleted a line of text" thing but there has been significant tunneling on her and it definitely didn't all come from that extra period.

The tunneling comes from the scumbags that messed with the frog, and killed Beefster. That's who is tunneling. They don't want their gambit to fail.

[DrippingGoofball]

*waves at DGB*

Heyyy! Glad to see you're still in the game

And it's party time!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[DrippingGoofball]

I apologize for my bad behavior yesterday. Mothrax is town. He posted him role PM unprompted.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan I bodyguarded with heavy breadcrumbing the day before.

What are you responding to?

That's part of the results I got.

[DrippingGoofball]

OH really

Well we got our lying scum right up there in post #4105, because I definitely targeted you, and that's the result I got.

[DrippingGoofball]

I clicked. By mistake. I thought it was the game thread. I was checking for errors in the PM.

Also DGB is lying scum. First I don't have any medalions and I know for a fact nobody targeted me.
Also based on my claim I doubt AKR claim.

Piplz

There is one and only one reason why someone would pull such a lie. ONE. One reason.

VOTE: vezokpiraka

[DrippingGoofball]

Dear friends and family,

Won't you begin this fresh new year by lynching a guaranteed, scummaliciously scummy scum scum like, mmmm, say, vezokpiraka? I promise you, vezokpiraka is bursting with delicious candies, chocolate bonbons, profiteroles, and New York cheesecake. Treats for everybody!

Hear me now, believe me later.

Love, and a happy 2011!

[DrippingGoofball]

OH really

Well we got our lying scum right up there in post #4105, because I definitely targeted you, and that's the result I got.

You got shifted from ythan to beefster last night, correct? cold the same thing have not have happened when you targeted vezok?

GAH!

Shtoopid shifts.

UNVOTE:

[DrippingGoofball]

I was going to post a rant that vezok and ABR should that thought of the possibility of a shift before their accusations. But then I was overwhelmed with the Doomship of Irony.

[DrippingGoofball]

And this makes DGB scum because...?

Because all day long she's blaming the frog, claiming shift blablabla, and suddenly she forgets all about it and claims that vezok is scum because he says she didn't target him. Right...

Hey ABR, are you the one that kissed the frog?

You're ragging on me for not recalling the shift, how come you're not ragging on vezok for doing EXACTLY THE SAME THING????

[DrippingGoofball]

Well, it decidedly can't be impossible, since I did just that.

[DrippingGoofball]

K I did a quick search. DGB did not show increased aggression towards vezokpiraka Who she did show increased aggression towards was Mothrax. This doesn't fit the pattern of a cop with a guilty (reread Exlion he heavily attacked LLD with his guilty). I could see it: if DGB claimed a result on Mothrax. Not vezokpiraka.

Vote DGB

Explain nao, but I think you're a fake.

:gigantic eyeroll:

How am I supposed to guess that these stupid medallions have to do with guilt or innocence???

I thought it was some minor flavor thingy.

[DrippingGoofball]

But that's what it it. It's not my fault that's what it is. I can't change my role.

[DrippingGoofball]

"EBWOP"

But that's what it is.

[DrippingGoofball]

Unless you have other info that shows your claim as true, there is no need for you to say it again.

I'm sorry, all I got is my role PM. The flavor is over my head.

It think it's quite clear that my wagon is scum-driven, I can only hope this won't lose us the game.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was looking through the flips.

Did you notice where chesskid died, it said "sacrificed himself"?

I'm pretty sure we have 2 vanillized players out there...

Beyond that, I'm thinking that a Tunnel-Visioned cop would be paranoid. Not sure what he means by devolving, but I think we can safely assume that

The Deku Tree cop is useless

In other words, it's results are probably false.

My lynch is a big bistake, I've been framed by scum.

Unfortunately, I'm at a disadvantage because I have no clue about flavor mumbo jumbo like the above.

I can only hunt scum in the old fashioned way.

I'm very disappointed with all of you, I thought there would be a few smart ones out there that could figure out the business with the frog, and Beefster's kill. I'm especially disappointed with DTMaster, because my expectations were greater.

This is a riddle, And little effort has been expended to try to solve it. And I can't help because the solution is probably in the flavor.

And guess what? Scum wins when town is lazy. Or filled with flavor-clueless players like myself. I apologize that I couldn't have been more helpful in this regard, and I take my share of responsibility for our now inevitable loss.

I hope there is a dead QT from which I can shout out "I told you so."

Or maybe I should stick to the New York forum...

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB is now at L-1. Wait for DTM to use his vig before the hammer. Thanks.

Why do you want DTM to

waste a vig shot

when

I can just as easily be hammered

, scum?

WHY?

[DrippingGoofball]

but if Vezok can be shot:

Unvote, Vote: DGB

You ought to unvote me pronto, because when zwet logs in, he will totally hammer before the vig shot, which we will then lose.

Someone needs to unvote me.

Anyone else.

I, for one, would really like to see vezok being vig'ed, I have a hunch vezok is ABR's partner.

What happens if vezok has a role that suggests an ability to mess with the frog or shift or redirect? This may be the only chance we have to avoid my mislynch, I'd very much like to see vezok's flip.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB vanished, DTM promised to be back 2 days ago and we haven't heard from him since, everybody else lurking.

Come on now, when have I ever vanished from this site? I'm like the paint on the walls.

Why is vezok so high on the list, anyways?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'd like everyone to register their opinion of vezok, AKR, ABR, and mothrax.

[DrippingGoofball]

If DGB is scum, I think ABR is Grey scum.

So, you think I'm PURPLE scum? Why. Explain. And why is ABR Gray scum. WHY.

If DGB were to flip town, I'd still call ABR scum here

If ABR is scum regardless of my flip, why haven't you been calmoring for his lynch?

This is all done under the assumption Zwet is misguided but town in his miller claim.

We've got untargetable masons (at least one is a PGO, right?), and an untargetable miller, right? Does that make sense?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan is town. Like, nearly confirmed.

Why on Earth would he stick up for me if he were any sort of scum?

If he were scum, he'd flat out lie, and pretend that he didn't know that I targeted him.

Some of you are supposing that Ythan and I are scum in cahoots. Well, even then... it would be absurd for him to defend me (if we were buddies) in this way, because we'd be giving the two a two for one special.

So Yhan is town, and you can take it to the bank.

[DrippingGoofball]

Everyone's targettable, just a matter if you want to sacrifice to take zwet out.

Refresh my memory plz?

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan is town. Like, nearly confirmed.

Why on Earth would he stick up for me if he were any sort of scum?

If he were scum, he'd flat out lie, and pretend that he didn't know that I targeted him.

Some of you are supposing that Ythan and I are scum in cahoots. Well, even then... it would be absurd for him to defend me (if we were buddies) in this way, because we'd be giving the two a two for one special.

So Yhan is town, and you can take it to the bank.

And this is in no way preparing for when you flip scum, to give Ythan a shot?

Well I'm flipping town, but if you predict the opposite... it's WIFOM I know, but just think of the risk being taken.

Put yourself in Ythan's shoes. He doesn't know my alignment. He defends me. Because townies tell the truth.

From his perspective, and yours, two things can happen.

(1) When I flip town, he'll be confirmed. Pretty much. Because this far in the game, he wouldn't defend me if he were scum.
(2) Were I to flip scum, he's a dead man walking NO MATTER

HIS

alignment. If he's town, he's dead; if he's scum, he's dead. So it would be completely idiotic of him to defend me in this categorical way if we were buddies.

In fact, thinking it over, you should have a near absolute town read on Ythan. Regardless of your opinion of mine.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yeah yeah we already no ythan is not town kthx.

DGB you're being unusually stubborn this game. Can't you just pull another PYP?

I'm town.

I've been framed with the forg business.

I'm angry.

I feel outscummed.

[DrippingGoofball]

gah, frog, not forg.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm powerless to defend myself with my role. I'm still town.

[DrippingGoofball]

[boxed-in]

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, thoughts on AKR and mothrax?

These are long questions, and I have some time this afternoon. There are almost 200 pages and a gazillion replacements. But I will do the only thing I can do, which is to find scum the old-fashioned way.

But in the meantime, someone AGAIN needs to

unvote

before zwet screws everything up for the rest of us. He only plays the game to hammer and nothing else.

If I don't deliver this afternoon, you can lynch me.

[DrippingGoofball]

My afternoon has been taken up with a psychiatric emergency with my mother-in-law, so a reprieve until the evening would be much appreciated.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was actually waiting for DTM... He needs to shoot vezok or AKR IMO.

I'm in... I shall attempt to iso some players.

[DrippingGoofball]

Iso'ing vezok wasn't a great deal of work. I see a lot of vigorous sheeping around, and a certain carelessness and fearlessness that I normally associate with townies. Not much point to post walls of vezok quotes here, anyone interested should iso vezok, I think they'll quickly see what I am talking about with minimal effort.

NEXT!

[DrippingGoofball]

The masonry confirms no dayshift.

Beef is town.

Can you confirm if there was a shift or not, last night?

[DrippingGoofball]

Can anyone here give me a good reason not to lynch zwet? I can guarentee that he is scum.

Vote: Zwet

What happened to this sentiment?

[DrippingGoofball]

Who is this Cupcake hydra anyways?

[DrippingGoofball]

If Mothrax is scum, then there can only be two more boss scum in the game seeing as all the boss scum in the game were presumably sage targets. Only two have not been killed (iirc).

Wait, WUT? How would AKR even know this?

[DrippingGoofball]

AKR is definitely NOT from the scumteam that targeted the frog and probably killed Beefster. This much is very clear

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB, inferring that neither of the Sages can be Poe scum is something we did a few pages back.

What is the significance of "Sages" in this game as a collective, flavor-wise?

[DrippingGoofball]

I need to get some sleep, I'll carry on tomorrow morning if I'm still alive.

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm back, more to come.

[DrippingGoofball]

mothrax is also guaranteed to NOT be from the scum team that framed me.

[DrippingGoofball]

I was wrong about mothrax. His voting record wasn't so good, but other than that, he's town. He has made a lot of posts that can only come from town, like declaring players to be town, posting his role PM without pression, etc.

I'll be very angry if he's lynched later.

[DrippingGoofball]

See??? Zwet didn't hammer. You're safe.

I'm pretty sure that ABR is on the scum team that framed me.

For instance, he unvoted me, and revoted me, leaving me at L-1 for zwet. On purpose. And he never ever wavered that he wanted me lynched, even though Ythan confirmed that I targeted him.

Also, he's not trying to solve the riddle of the frog lying, and Beefster's death. It's not in his best interests - because he's behind the frame up.

[DrippingGoofball]

Is there a possibility that Le Cupcake is scum, aka, not confirmed town?

Because if he's Katsuki, he has got to know I'm town, and he'd be looking at some other player to wagon.

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB you are taking such a narrow view of the events you don't understand.

I'm really sorry for that. All I have to offer is a narrow view. I shall not dispute my lack of understanding of events. I just hope it doesn't cost us the game.

[DrippingGoofball]

wtf is your problem with zwet? In my mind zwet loves you. You guys are always buddy-buddy. I thought he was going to be on your side and try to get me lynched.

You can't possibly hold this opinion. You know zwet does nothing but hammer, that's been his MO for over a year.

I unvoted you so you could answer my question, but 2 days passed and nobody posted anything so I put my well deserved vote back on you. You are the scum, Ythan is your partner, and that is that.

ABR, who is YOUR buddy?

[DrippingGoofball]

She hasn't added anything to the discussion because her analysis of events today is based around a complete misunderstanding of what's going on.

Then what is going on????????

[DrippingGoofball]

And I'm not wasting my time, although I am handicapped by my complete lack of flavor knowledge, I believe that what I am posting will be useful for you tomorrow.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan, you accuse me of rushing the day but I have never encouraged anyone to hammer nor to end the day. Your smear campaign against me, however, is noted.

You did by putting me at L-1 with the expectation that zwet would hammer as he usually does.

I'm going to find your buddy. TODAY. Fasten your seatbelt.

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN or players that didn't frame me:

2. DTMaster
16. Dekes DrippingGoofball replaced D2
13. Ythan
14. diddin ZONEACE replaced D1 vezokpiraka replaced D2
15. evilpacman18 Hinduragi replaced D1 AKnottedRope replaced D2
18. mothrax
19. Lady Lambdadelta
20. zwetschenwasser

PLAYERS that may be involved in framing me:

9. Le Cupcake
25. Albert B. Rampage

I'm re-reading in another window, and I think Cupcake is a scum mason. I may change my mind upon further reading, but it it quite clear to me.

[DrippingGoofball]

My basic tenet is that the players that made the effort to frame me are the most impervious to arguments that I'm town. So far, that's ABR and Cupcake. But again, I haven't finished reading, I have some actual work to do.

[DrippingGoofball]

I disagree with shooting AKR.

[DrippingGoofball]

f the mod is going to effectively promise us that a player is town then it's a waste of time to try to second guess that.

Is that OFFICIALLY the case?

[DrippingGoofball]

Then Cupcake's play makes me sad...

[DrippingGoofball]

... AKR is DEFINITIVELY 100% boss scum. He is the second scum infiltrator of the group, I guarantee it.

What is this infiltrator business?

[DrippingGoofball]

DGB: See Substrike.

What should I look for?

[DrippingGoofball]

... AKR is DEFINITIVELY 100% boss scum. He is the second scum infiltrator of the group, I guarantee it.

I still want more elaboration.

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh yeah zwet just a reminder the deadline is in a week, so your vote before friday/saturday would be much appreciated.

Not really, cuz I'm town. Zwet knows this.

And I've been framed. And I'm still shocked with how little effort the flavor experts have expended to try to figure this one out.

[DrippingGoofball]

If you have a flavor question for the flavor experts to answer then ask it.

Why did Beefster die, why did the frog lie, when I targeted YOU?

We need DTMaster's most excellent Hermione Grainger brains.

[DrippingGoofball]

(1) How can you be 100% sure that both scum groups have a sage (or whatever)
(2) Why couldn't it be mothrax?

[DrippingGoofball]

If you have a flavor question for the flavor experts to answer then ask it.

Why did Beefster die, why did the frog lie, when I targeted YOU?

We need DTMaster's most excellent Hermione Grainger brains.

Either you got redirected or you targeted Ythan. I don't think there's a flavor reason behind this.

But Ythan knows I targeted him, so I wasn't re-directed. Also, my action wouldn't have resulted in my target's death.

[DrippingGoofball]

AKR is scum. There can't be so many untargetable people in this game.

AKR is un-targetable, too? He claimed that?

[DrippingGoofball]

AKR is scum. There can't be so many untargetable people in this game.

But I'm not untargetable. There's a distinction you're missing between my role (reflexive roleblocker) and an untargetable role

Never mind...

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh wait

What's a reflexive roleblocker again?

[DrippingGoofball]

Oh wait

What's a reflexive roleblocker again?

Scum, you have framed me, of anyone, you have done the least to solve the riddle, or consider other possibilities. From the get go.

[DrippingGoofball]

Yes. But it works like that. It blocks everything for three phases.

They're different. That you can't see it is your problem.

I agree, that's nothing like "untargetable"

ANYHOO

We need the mods to confirm vezok's claim, and if not, alignment.

ABR is scum foaming at the mouth at my lynch.

Please kill him. He is scum. His buddy/ies and humself have tempered with the frog. They killed Beefster.

[DrippingGoofball]

WAIT

12. Chronopie [NABOORU],

Action-Immune

Accumulative Ability-Thief Sage, killed night 4

[DrippingGoofball]

vezok has got to be lying.

[DrippingGoofball]

Her shot resolves at deadline apparently.

And it's called a "daykill?"

[DrippingGoofball]

I got out of bed because I suddenly thought of something.

THe scum that framed me must at one time have had the frog on their head.

Because the message from the mod says that (1) the frog will snitch and (2) encourages you to KILL the frog.

The scum team that framed me surely found that the frog was targetable - when one of their team received the same message I did.

[DrippingGoofball]

I never stop trying to catch scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

lol it's funny how DGB is the only one ever mentioning the frog and nobody cares.

That's because you're the one behind the frog tempering. You're very lucky that the town failed to care. They should have. I tried.

[DrippingGoofball]

It's NOT a hoax. It said I targeted Beefster. I never did. I targeted Ythan.

How is it that the frog's fake target report matched with a scum kill????

Because the scum targeted the frog with some ability.

[DrippingGoofball]

I am

NOT

"Boss Multitargeting Framer Poisoner." I bet that's exactly who framed me, though.

I targeted Ythan who was neither framed, nor poisoned.

vezok's role seems to be on the money with the claim - only to some extent. I don't think we got the whole truth.

[DrippingGoofball]

vezok's buddies are out in force, I see.

Is there some trick to vezok's UNTARGETABILITY that your must exploit today in order to win?

[DrippingGoofball]

Look at it this way.

"Framer" would be a useless attribute for anyone to have, the Boss Cop is dead. So is the Poe Cop. There is no possible framing with regards to cop results possible.
"Poisoner" would be a factional ability.

What is "Triple Action Immune Action Multiplier?"

[DrippingGoofball]

And you can look at it yet another way.

The likelihood of vezok being NK'd by the Boss scum is ZERO.

The "action immune" bizniss means that vezok

has to be lynched

, because he cannot be NK'd.

I, however, am a candidate for a Poe NK.

:GIANT EYEROLL:

It's kinda sad that *I* have to explain this.

[DrippingGoofball]

ACTION IMMUNITY may not "do much" beyond preventing vezok-Poe-scum from ever be NK'd by Boss-scum.

[DrippingGoofball]

But you're a poisoner.

How many kills do you suppose scum has??? That's a goon-flavor.

...you framer.

Don't be dense, you delicious pastry, there are no cops left, who's getting framed for what????

Vezok showed the ability of being daykilled anyways.

According to vezok, this was NOT supposed to work. Why it did work yesterday is a mystery, and may not be repeatable.

I feel like I'm a mafia kindergarten teacher.

[DrippingGoofball]

On the other hand, it will make it easier for your boss scum to achieve majority with 3 players left standing as opposed to 2 of the poe scum.

Hello Poe scum!

[DrippingGoofball]

ABR, I will kill you tonight.

[DrippingGoofball]

I feel like I'm a mafia kindergarten teacher.

OOO OOO SING us A SONG PLEASE, MRS. DGB!

Itsy bitsy spider...

[DrippingGoofball]

ABR, I will kill you tonight.

Haha no you won't.

You will die at twilight. It's a done deal.

[DrippingGoofball]

And you are wrong thinking that I am scum

Hehe

That was an afterthought, wasn't it.

[DrippingGoofball]

So wait, you just claimed poisoner confirmed?

Aren't you voting me?

[DrippingGoofball]

Make peace with your gods and die.

I suggest you do the same.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan is town. I confirmed it last night.

Pfffffffffffffffffft

He

IS

town, but you're no cop. Both cops are dead.

[DrippingGoofball]

As misguided as they come, but innocent nonetheless.

The flip of DGB confirms it.

You're tripping on your own shoelaces, first you pretend you have an "innocent" on Ythan, then you try to lead us to believe that it's my flip that confirms it? What would it even confirm?

You're full of baloney.

[DrippingGoofball]

Ythan isn't boss scum.

Boss Cop is long dead.

[DrippingGoofball]

Shall I poison someone of your choosing, or just go for ABR? I sent in the choice, but I can recant if necessary.

[DrippingGoofball]

Hey

No scum kill went through last night.

Was there even night?

[DrippingGoofball]

It's with some measure of sadness and reluctance that I announce that I've outposted every scummer, ever.

[DrippingGoofball]

I have to thank Reckamonic for creating a game of epic complexity, and devotedly modding it to completion. Great team work, kids.

It was great fun for the players - the randomness and shifts and surprised were unpredictable, but quite a hoot. It was beyond the "trying to figure it out" range, so everyone was forced to wing it in a bizarro universe.

[DrippingGoofball]

The mothrax parasite bloodbath was HILARIOUS.

[DrippingGoofball]

Why did vezok and I get revived?

[DrippingGoofball]

oh
WORST MASONRY EVER
that is all

Never was a modhammer so richly deserved!!!

Just kiddin'

[DrippingGoofball]

Hello, my name is scum and I am a mafiaholic.

[DrippingGoofball]

Was Hyrule saved?

[DrippingGoofball]

But was Hyrule saved?

[DrippingGoofball]

What is Hyrule?

[DrippingGoofball]

I JUST LOL'D AT THE ENDGAME

You, and the whole cemetery QT.

[DrippingGoofball]

Me too.

Me too.

[DrippingGoofball]

Dayvig: AKR

[DrippingGoofball]

ALTHOUGH DGB SCUM WAS VERY UNDERWHELMING AND EASILY CAUGHT THIS GAME

I know, but we could relax with mothrax's parasite powers, the ultimate landmine. Oh wait - that was the modhammer!