Reckamonic's Ocarina of Time Mafia..OVER! Was Hyrule saved?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Okay, so I have two shorter games that I'm prioritising my catch-up on, but I will be getting to this as soon as possible. Would greatly appreciate a brief recap, and if someone could tell me if my predecessor claimed, that'd be good.

[Knight of Cydonia]

YAY.
KoC is scum. Why would a townie want to know what his predecessor claimed?

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Reading comprehension is tech.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...wait, the deadline is tomorrow?
Jesus, I'm not even halfway read up.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I don't particularly like the yellow = second scum leap that's going on here. Could be a SK Survivor faction, could be another kind of third party such as a cult... Agree that I'd like to hear DTM's train of thought that lead to Yellow = 2nd Scum.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'd be extremely wary of insta-confirming all the sages. I don't know a huge amount about Zelda lore though, so I don't know if there's a sage that might fit in as a dark Sage or whatever.

[Knight of Cydonia]

In anycase, can we have some Chrono votes?

I don't like this claim about Twinrova still being alive. I think Chrono is Poe scum.

Given that the Witch Sisters have to combine to form Twinrova, I doubt Twinrova is actually alive. Does smell a bit like trying to throw us off the scent.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"I don't get it, but it looks good." Jesus fucking Christ.

Also: just because our lynch was forced Day 1, does not give us an excuse to break from normal guidelines on claiming. That said, L-2 is generally better in large games, to prevent quickhammers or mishammers. Just saying.

[Knight of Cydonia]

That sounds like far too many scum. I get the feeling a lot of smoke and mirrors is being employed by certain people here.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'm fairly sure that we don't have a town vs. town situation, given the claimed targets of the sages so far. Not entirely sure how a Beefster lynch would answer the question anyway.
Honestly, Beefster feels... faily towny to me, especially gaining points for the shift analysis... but I'm hesitant to call him a full town-read.
Aikage, however, has been stalling his claim having softclaimed for far too long, and needs to do so. An Aikage wagon is the way forward.

Vote: Aikage

[Knight of Cydonia]

I'd love to hear how exactly you can guarantee it. Anti-town zwet, well, anyone can guarantee that - it IS Zwet, after all. But scum? Do explain.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Aikage sure is AWOL.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Because the humans are dead

I'm glad they are dead

The humans are deeeeead

I noticed they're dead

We used poisonous gases

With traces of lead

And we poisoned their asses!

Actually their lungs, BINARY SOLO

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000000111111111!

[Knight of Cydonia]

Until Aikage stops lurking... no, not really.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I can't help but feel Aikage might have made a slip in his claim and people are giving him a convenient way out.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"I gave stuff to Ythan last night!"
Ythan: "I don't got nothin'"
Certain other people: "Oh, he just forgot it was a Day action, probably. Is that what you did, Aikage?"

It's leading the witness.

[Knight of Cydonia]

What do you mean, how is it a scumslip?
Aikage, when asked to claim, details his role, including his

Day

action. Then when asked what he's done, says he gave Ythan something

last night

. Okay, I can see that it could (and in fairness, based on Aikage's play, has a good probability of it) be an idiotic mistake. But it's still contradicting his claim. Either he didn't give anything to Ythan due to it being a Day action attempted at night, which, if confirmed, I'll give him the benefit of the doubt on for now, or he just flatout didn't give anything to Ythan because this is a scum fake-claim.
I'm just throwing it out there, I'm not saying OMG EVERYONE POINTING THIS OUT AND HELPING AIKAGE IS SCUM, as Lady's hugely stupid vote on me seems to imply.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"I don't like his argument"
and
"Not that I particularly agree with anything about his supposed scumslip argument or anything, I just feel he is scummy in general"

Stellar

reasons to vote me, guys.

[Knight of Cydonia]

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vote Aikage

If he won't claim because he doesn't have to we will make him have to.

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

vezok, your hypocrisy is noted.

[Knight of Cydonia]

3 days, with no posts between the two I quoted and the switch to a vote to me. Nothing to indicate a changing of opinion, indicating that the wagon was jumped to simply because... well, why?
And let's be brutally honest here, children - who actually trusts Aikage, whether scum or town, to make the correct decisions in MyLo or LyLo?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Time between

Why hasn't Aikage claimed?

He should get lynched by now.

and

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You are trying to get an easy lynch out of a VI.

is 3 days. As it would turn out, YOUR argument is invalid, Beef.

How so? Don't forget the CONTEXT.

There was a claim between the two posts.

Yeah, there's not much of a intermediate progression, but if you look at the context, the action seems justified. (not to mention that vezok's posts tend to be short anyway)

So, because he's usually a shit poster, he gets a free pass here? NOPE.

[Knight of Cydonia]

"Not that I particularly agree with anything about his supposed scumslip argument or anything, I just feel he is scummy in general"

Stellar

reasons to vote me, guys.

But you are. For awhile now.

Please, detail exactly how I'm scummy.

[Knight of Cydonia]

i think deadlines is soon and i can vote whoeverr has more votes from these two, but tonight i am going to try and kill chronopoie ior morthraz

This, right here? This is why I'm not taking my vote off Aikage.
He's claimed a Day action, and is instead saying "tonight i am going to try and kill chronopoie ior morthraz"

Mod: Can you PLEASE consider replacing Aikage, he clearly doesn't have the understanding and ability to play in this game.

[Knight of Cydonia]

EBWOP: Also, if he really thinks he can kill people at night, AND is town-sided, AND believes I'm scum for voting him... why not try and kill me? Why Chrono or Mothraz?

[Knight of Cydonia]

I have speculation to why people suspect KOC, but I disagree with KOC case (if I am right he is scummy for still attacking Aikage and his ISO post 13-15?) I feel that is more of his personal opinion, and frankly it is kinda werid that Aikage would not get confirmation that his actions failed during the night when he tried to use it. But I feel that Aikage newbness is not a slip. That does not mean I am going to vote KOC, but if needed I think I understand the case to hammer to avoid a no lynch,

reason why I would hammer is because he will be killed the next day.

So hang on, you disagree with the "case" on me, but you'd still hammer me, because... I'm not sure if this is "he'll be dead tomorrow because someone will have killed him in the night" or "he'll be dead tomorrow because,

of course

, it's a foregone conclusion that we'd lynch that person tomorrow".
Feels like backpedalling.

Mod: If you don't give us a week's extension, I'm going to perform a variant of the Ludovico Technique where I force you both to play Halo: Reach and WoW, simultaneously, for 72 hours straight.

[Knight of Cydonia]

I am still up for a Koc lynch although i

would support a SensFan lynch just to get rid of him if it gets to that.

-ping-
-ping-
-PINGPINGPINGPING-

There goes the scumdar.

Mod: Trust me. I would do it, and I would enjoy your tears.

[Knight of Cydonia]

...seriously? "What is back

peddling

?"
First off, if I was at L-1 and not hammered, it is by no means certain I would be tomorrow's lynch.
Also if you would prevent my lynch unless I got to L-1, at which point you would hammer, why not vote for me anyway?
And it's backpedalling because you've gone from:

I would be willing to lynch DGB. KOC and AKR

to

If I can prevent your (KoC's) lynch, I will try

.

Mod, why are people like Aikage and Bunnylover playing? They clearly don't have the requisite experience for a game of this depth.

[Knight of Cydonia]

ok i sent in my invention to someone i trust will use it best, i realize from what people said inventions might be something that people can use for good and really things that i use on people to uhrt them.

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Vote: KoC

Koc saying i am too newb to play, yet he is still votin me is scummy!! he thinks i don know how to use my roll correctly because im dumb and new, which means he knows i am town and my roll is real!! but yet he is voting me? it hink he is jsut afraid to get lynched today

What... the... fuck.

Also I don't have the requisite to play this game? I asked you one question and that immediately means I can't play mafia? Sorry that I don't know all the lingo that people use on this site, and I will ask what does this mean to understand it. I apologize and won't ask you another question to further expand my knowledge of mafia. Also nice trying to discredit me by relating me to Aikage.

Rather you did that intentionally or not, I find that suspicious.

Bolded emphasis mine - this is fucking straight up bullshit.
A: I wasn't "linking you to Aikage" in any way other than neither of you have enough Mafia ability to be playing this game.
B: "Whether you intended it or not, I find it scummy." So in other words, regardless of the intent, you're going to read it as scummy to make what I assume will shortly be a joining on my wagon seem like you actually have a case.

Look at the 4 people voting me, kids. One is Aikage, who is doing it because... fuck knows. Lady and AKR seem to be basically going with "I have a bad feeling about you/don't like your playstyle" (AKR) and "One of Bunny/KoC is scum, I'm going to jump to it being KoC because of FEELINGS" (Lady), and vezok... fuck, why is vezok voting my other than a straight-up wagon hop, exactly?

[Knight of Cydonia]

Yeah, that's who I meant. ABR and AKR are probably going to get confused a lot.

@KOC: I didn't say you were linking me to Aikage. I said that you are comparing me and Aikage and saying we are on the same level, which if people believe you that greatly discredits anything and everything I say. I don't think Comparing and linking are similar in the usage.

"Related" is what you said, and I'm pretty sure anyone would agree with me that in the context of what I was saying, linking, comparing and relating are all pretty much straight synonyms.

I'm going to say this right now, as clearly as I can: the town is fucking itself over by leaving Aikage and Bunnylover around. They're either scum who are getting the Village Idiot pass, or Village Idiots. Whatever powers they may or may not have, they cannot be allowed to live to LyLo. They're going to fuck smart townies over by getting confused and turning the discussion into babysitting, or they're going to be led by scum into mislynch after mislynch.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Inb4 wagon is driven to L-1 against me by scum, and I have no time to claim so Bunnylover hammers anyway and gets away with it on a VI pass.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Oh, right, that. One moment while I read.
...Hm. He comes across as a competent player who's being screwed over by the mechanics. And if his Rolling Attack does what it appears to do, I can't see a thematic reason for him to be scum. While I don't agree with many of his points, the reasoning isn't necessarily scummy, and he's actually putting an effort into this game, although he has invoked some degree of WIFOM with the whole

I almost always look like scum, but what I do is usually for good reasons. I'm a very cavalier player.

thing.

I wouldn't lynch him right now without a certifiable Cop guilty on him. That can, of course, change, but right now, I have no wish to see him dead.

[Knight of Cydonia]

- Voting Aikage, defending self from bullshit accusations from ABR and Lady, fending off VI Bunnylover
- Floundering

Pick one.

[Knight of Cydonia]

Three words: Fucking. Called. It.
Good luck town.