Zachtown in the mountains (Game over TOWN WINS!)

Empking · Post Post #893 (isolation #0) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 10:09 am

Furc: Would you mind giving me a summary of the game so far?
Thor: What's the case on babyspice?

Empking · Post Post #911 (isolation #1) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:17 pm

Town:
Benmage
I Am Innocent
KaleiÐoscøpe

The Town Side of Null:
Locke Lamora
Sotty
Mina

The Scum Side of Null:
Baby Spice

Mongoose

JasonT1981
Thor665

Nikanor

Leaning Scum:
Elmo - Reading his posts give me a town tell until I think about it and then it seems obvious that he's not really deserving of it. My reason for thinking about him as scum though is his votes during D1P1 that seemed immediately to defend DF before jumping on the DF wagon once it became inevitable. (VC: 8, 12)
Furcolow - Again its the votes. His first vote on DF when there wasn't a DF wagon and when one started to build he jumped off. His later vote looked oppertunistic bussing also. (VC: 7, 9, 11)
Percy - The fact that he has yet to be lynched looks like he's being protected by scum. The players and ways he's been voting also don't look good.

Unvote

Vote; Percy

Wagon

Elmo:

Empking · Post Post #912 (isolation #2) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 12:19 pm

EBWOP
Ignore that "Elmo:" bit at the end.

Empking · Post Post #935 (isolation #3) » Fri Nov 26, 2010 11:52 pm

Vote; Elmo

- Same point as yesterday plus the "lucked out" comment looks like bitter scum.

Mina: Percy went exclusively for the VIs. That's the point where I disagreed with his choice of suspects. I thought it was pretty obvious that he was being protected by Thor, since that's out of the window Percy is probably town.

Every post Kscope makes look like town scum hunting and sticking to his guns. (plus with the BS wagon the fact that he continued to vote Percy rather than voting me to protect or voting BS to distance makers me almost certain that he's town.)

With regards to Jason, I'm going to reread Sotty to make sure I didn't miss anything but its it what I think you're talking about then "no" it doesn't mean much.

Empking · Post Post #945 (isolation #4) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:27 am

Furcolow wrote:
Benmage wrote:Wowwww lol. I hate noobs. Impossible for me to read.... I don't get it Baby Spice could've saved herself by simply voting Percy. Sacrifice?

We should lynch furc or Percy next. Maybe Kscope. Or even Mina.

That unvoting shenanigans .... come on.
lynch me when i hammered scum?

vote: benmage

Are you joking? Think this through.

Empking · Post Post #950 (isolation #5) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:34 am

Furcolow wrote:why is he even mentioning my name after ive been on both fucking wagons of scum

Maybe its because you acted opportunistically with both of them yet despite that you're trying to use your presence on them as irrefutable evidence of your being town.

Empking · Post Post #960 (isolation #6) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:46 am

Unvote

Vote: Furc

Empking · Post Post #967 (isolation #7) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 7:58 am

Furcolow wrote:Empking sheeping you is just because he is replacing in, and probably hasn't even read the thread completely. If he has, he has read it completely out of context with a pre-existing hatred of me that isn't explainable or reasonable, and is even less reasonable than your vote or "case" on me.

Would you mind rephrasing that? (I don't understand what you mean)

Also, why are you voting me?

Thor:

asking for a BS case without responding to it in any way

Why is this scummy? Why is the futile try for a Percy lynch scummy? You mention it being a "last minute" attempt; is this important to your argument? (If it isn't I won't waste your time grilling you over it.)

Empking · Post Post #971 (isolation #8) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:07 am

Furc: I expressed a large degree of suspicion of you in my original post so I wouldn't say I'm simply sheeping Benmage. I didn't think I'd need to repeat my reason for voting you but.

Maybe its because you acted opportunistically with both of them yet despite that you're trying to use your presence on them as irrefutable evidence of your being town.

Edit: Vote Percy then. He's been under even more suspicion.

Empking · Post Post #975 (isolation #9) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:23 am

Furcolow wrote:one liner =/= reasoning to post

One liners are best liners.

that reasoning was sheeping benmage and the post right in front of it that jason made
that post was sheeping jason

Why would I be sheeping Jason?

Also, AtE in your last post.

Empking · Post Post #977 (isolation #10) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 8:29 am

Thor: I fail to see how it could be considered an attempt to look like I was considering the BS case when I hadn't even read the thread yet. I asked you about the BS case to get a better read on youself because I (correctly) guessed that my reading the thread wouldn't help (too much) in that respect. It gave you several pro-town points in my mind so I felt no need to bring it up again.

Empking · Post Post #979 (isolation #11) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:04 am

What made me and furc so well known for being difficult to read?

I think my reasons with furc is pretty obvious.

You were just a random pick out of the players that I haven't heard of you.

Empking · Post Post #995 (isolation #12) » Sat Nov 27, 2010 3:24 pm

jason: I'm scum for finding you one of the six scummiest players. Really?

Empking · Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:32 pm

Percy: Why is "asking for a BS case without responding to it in any way" scummy?

Empking · Sat Nov 27, 2010 10:34 pm

Thor: I don't understand the question. I said I'd have troubler reading them, not that they'd be impossible to read. Those players are in the middle two categories though.

Unvote

Furc's unvote does look genuine.

Empking · Post Post #1012 (isolation #15) » Mon Nov 29, 2010 2:05 am

Thor665 wrote:
Furcolow wrote:I am going to re-read this entire game, and make a post

Furcolow wrote:i am considering just proxying my vote to benmage or elmo
If Benmage didn't already have it, then this might have needed to become my new sig.

@Emp - I never said that anyone would be impossible to read. I said more difficult. Where are you coming from with this?
Also, let's look at this for a second, you claim that some of the players in the middle section of your list (let's say there were 4 of us for the sake of this thought) were players you thought would be difficult for you to read. So you randomly ask one of them a question,

Yes.

randomly decide the question should be on the case he's trying to sell

No

, get the response, decide he's more town for it, and never comment on it again

I don't see the coincidence.

, and then had the subject of that case flip scum while you went and joined the alternate wagon to that scum wagon,

No. I was the only alternative wagon to BS.

and none of these coincidences were connected in any way?

Only one is a coincidence so I have to say "no".

Empking · Post Post #1026 (isolation #16) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 4:51 am

vote: Mina

Empking · Post Post #1029 (isolation #17) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 5:13 am

I'm votining Mina for her actions with regard to the BS wagon (mostly her going to the second largest to lend her support to it) but mostly its because of her insistance that I'd be the lynch today without putting a vote on. It seems to me that she ignored the Percy feelings due to trying to make sure we got through this part quickly so we wouldn't look closely at her posts (a difficult job at the best lof time considerring she's wrote a small novel's worth.)

Empking · Post Post #1034 (isolation #18) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 6:45 am

Thor665 wrote:Isn't voting Mina for dithering a bit like voting Furcolow for OMGUSing? I dunno, I agree Mina looks bad but she just doesn't feel that scummy to me. Meanwhile we have Empking who is most assuredly acting dicey around important wagons and whose predecessors did the same. He's even been bouncing around today trying to be wherever it looks like an alternate wagon is going to spring up.

What important wagons?

Empking · Post Post #1036 (isolation #19) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:23 am

Thor; How am I acting dicey around Percy's wagon?

Empking · Post Post #1038 (isolation #20) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 7:52 am

Yeah, I must have misremembered and then when I looked at you in iso, your vote was only around 10 minuted after your post.

Empking · Post Post #1040 (isolation #21) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 8:11 am

Mina wrote:^So right now, the entire reason you're voting for me is that I voted Lrdwhyt over Baby Spice?

I'd have felt much better about you had you been honest and said it was self-preservation.

If I was voting based on self-preservation I'd have voted Percy this part. You're clearly (and if you were being honest you'd know that) the best candidate for scum.

Empking · Post Post #1043 (isolation #22) » Tue Nov 30, 2010 9:33 am

Thor665 wrote:
Empking wrote:Thor; How am I acting dicey around Percy's wagon?
When you tried to resuscitate it without even commenting on the leading wagon of the day?
I dunno - that strikes me as odd. I'm probably being dumb though, feel free to explain how it's normal.

Wagon analysis should come after the lynch not before and I did comment that I leant scum on BS.

If we lose this game, then I'm either nominating the final scum for a Scummy or the townie who picks wrong in LYLO for a VI-of-the-Year award.

Thor; You consider blatant, blatant "I'm town, totally town. See how I'm randomly calling myself town." a town tell? Why?

Empking · Tue Nov 30, 2010 10:41 am

Well, no the rest isn't legit because
1. Stating the obvious in order to look town is a scum tell not a town tell. (Town want to lynch scum. Scum want to blow hot air in a way that helps them survive.)
2. Scum would know that BS was scum and would've voted him rather than voting for a wagon that had no chance to grow.

Empking · Tue Nov 30, 2010 11:14 am

Thor665 wrote:
Empking wrote:2. Scum would know that BS was scum and would've voted him rather than voting for a wagon that had no chance to grow.
Mina didn't vote BS.
You're voting Mina.
Thoughts?

rather than voting for a wagon that had no chance to grow

The Lrd wagon didn't fit that single criteria.

Empking · Post Post #1066 (isolation #25) » Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:43 am

Furcolow wrote:
Empking wrote:
Mina wrote:^So right now, the entire reason you're voting for me is that I voted Lrdwhyt over Baby Spice?

I'd have felt much better about you had you been honest and said it was self-preservation.
If I was voting based on self-preservation I'd have voted Percy this part. You're clearly (and if you were being honest you'd know that) the best candidate for scum.
voting preservation would be voting the person who is "clearly the best candidate for scum" other than you...
who is your vote on, again?

@EMPKING

Er, no. You should almost always be voting the person who is "clearly the best candidate for scum" as town. Who are you voting for other than the person who is "clearly the best candidate for scum"?

Empking · Post Post #1069 (isolation #26) » Wed Dec 01, 2010 3:20 am

Furcolow wrote:but if it's CLEARLY the best candidate.... jeez
are you really that dumb?

Apparently. Type really slowly and tell me what I'm missing.

Empking · Post Post #1074 (isolation #27) » Wed Dec 01, 2010 6:25 am

Mina: Yes the scum will be found in those players.