Objection Redux - It's all over bar the shouting!

[Gammagooey]

I don't think I've ever gotten to vote a Vi before =D

Vote:Vi

[Gammagooey]

I don't think I've ever gotten to vote a Vi before =D

oh god

o.o?

[Gammagooey]

Ooooh I've voted plentyy of VI's, just no

real

votes for any Vi's. In fact I think you've witnessed most of my votes on VIs (riceball, foilist, drmyshotty)

Hay Fate I saw you post in the topic above this, why have you abandoned us?

[Gammagooey]

Oh hey Rhinox just became the best vote around for pretty much the same reasons Vi said+ giving a ridiculous excuse for him to not vote Vi for all of d1.

Vote: Rhinox

Other Things-
Vi: If Rhinox is scum why aren't you voting him?
SpyreX: If you share whatever it is with us Fate would probably be the only one to actually Bitch about it, if it's stupid we'll probably call you stupid for it and move on.

According to the other thread Fate says he doesn't have a role PM yet but given last game I can't help but think it's just another stupid gambit.

[Gammagooey]

Everyone now has a Role PM. Oops and all that.

>.> So it proooobably wasn't a stupid gambit then.
Psst hey Fate who scumz?

[Gammagooey]

You guys. You GUYSSSSSSS.

So the amount of words spent on VV so far looks way out of proportion with the amount of scummy things he's done- I don't think most of the things Fate brings up in his first few posts makes him scum, and while his unexplained Rhinox vote -> AGM vote after Fate comments on the Rhinox vote certainly isn't GOOD, I think Rhinox's weirdness with the Vi wagon then jumping on the vezo wagon for the same (nonexistant) reasons while simultaneously stating that he won't vote Vi d1 for a dumb reason is more worthy of votes.

SpyreX gets a solid MEH- I only thought one of the Que?'s actually looked weird (hint on which one:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ltmMJntSfQI#t=1m33) and I don't see why he's rolling with the wagon instead of just asking the questions.

Elli and Socio stand out to me in the lack of content awards buttt it's Thanksgiving so it's entirely possible I'm being impatient and dumb.

[Gammagooey]

So Fate's restatement of the case on VV AND the Rhinox biznez that's accompanying it means that my Rhinox vote is outdated and boring.
BUT I'm not hammering yet.

Not because of the claim shenanigans, although I would like a claim before a hammer.
It's because Socio and Vi need to get the hell in herez and state their opinions on the lynch before it happens. Rhinox's opinion on it would be nice too but if VV flips scum he needs to get wagoned so fast tomorrow that the wagon can beat out the speed of sound, regardless of what he has to say now.
Waiting time startssssss...now.

@Mod: VV is voting twice in the votecount (Vi+AGM) when he should just be voting AGM.

[Gammagooey]

Not right now.

And Fate IS right about that not matching up with Rhinox's 75.

[Gammagooey]

IMO Fate is basically seeing everything you do as coming from VV-scum, but his thing about your vote on Rhinox is damn good And him dissappearing from your big reads post with AGM and SpyreX AND him being my biggest scum read means that if I'm right about Rhinox-scum you are Very likely to be his partner, and if I'm not right about Rhinox-scum you're still likely scum.

Vezok and Elli's hops on you are meh but that doesn't really have to do with YOUR alignment.

If you get lynched today and flip town I will look at AGM more closely, but without knowledge of your alignment your AGM case is basically worthless, as it's basically:
"Hey AGM should know me better from playing with me and is getting my alignment wrong without asking many questions."

Pretty much all of the case on SpyreX except the Que stuff is stupid, and I don't see why him voting you again when his previous vote was back the the RVS is scummy. As for the vig thing as I see it it's pretty much like this-
VV- Fate is a good vig shot + investigate+ nk
SpyreX- That's scummy +other things you done iz scummy BLOOD FOR BLOOD GOD

votes vv

Spy- Oh guys who would you shoot with gun
VV- That's scummy

Aaaaaaaaaand I don't see Spy asking who's a good vig shot as scummy at all.

(Btw Spy I'd shoot Rhinox)

[Gammagooey]

<---Still wants Vi to post before the lynch

[Gammagooey]

Fate as hilarious as quickhammering on scum is I really don't see how VV claiming would actually hurt us given that if THIS PLAYERLIST unvotes him for a shoddy claim there are serious shenanigans going on.

[Gammagooey]

Style points are pssssssssssh. The quote makes it a lot less likely that he has a PR that would save his ass but if it doesn't make sense with his play he's going to get hammered ANYWAY sooooooooo yeah.

[Gammagooey]

Oh hey everyone's back from Thanksgiving shenanigans.

I agree with Jahudo and SpyreX about magnus for the most part, and although his fencesitting is Irritating I can see it coming from town pretty easily.

VV and Rhinox's stuff is a LOT harder to see as coming from town- Rhinox's case on UK is pretty bad with the exception of the stuff about Vi not being the lynch d1, and even that isn't GOOD because of his saying that Vi was too fun to lynch d1 (even though apparently he says it was a jokey acknowledgement of the wagon accompanied by a serious vote on vezok??). Then you have the last part of his post where he lists FIVE people, says that two of them are prob town despite lurking +little content for Hurr meta, then says the other 3 are neutral And apparently not remembering me from Mafia Reverb despite me going after him from pretty much the moment I replaced in.

MEANWHILE, I Still haven't seen an explanation for Rhinox dropping off VV's scumreads Or his Rhinox vote post not matching up with his explaining the vote post And his cases sucked AND his wagon apparently fell apart despite a VANILLA TOWNIE CLAIM?

And of course Rhino has the nice little fencesit on VV in his wall post while saying he's town not for HIS actions but for a lack of a counterwagon (oh hey look what just sprung up) while VV has stopped mentioning Rhinox altogether.

VV+Rhino. Need a thousand deaths.

Vote: VasudeVa

Before I forget
Vi- Why are you STILL voting Fate?

[Gammagooey]

Viiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii way to miss the point.

I know that you said you couldn't decide on who of the good votes to go with.

But you're still voting Fate instead of doing Any of them and I would think a no vote is better than a bad vote.

[Gammagooey]

Guys, I have an important three step process to lynching scum.

Step1:Read Elli's iso

Step2:Vote Elli

Step3:PARTYTIME

Vote: Ellibereth

[Gammagooey]

I could DEAL with a vezok lynch. But a mangoes lynch? Seriously follow my amazing steps and read Elli's iso.
It consists of fluff, only mentioning the town part of the scumtastic pair, and one question to vezok.

Mangoes isn't the most fantastic of all isos but he has words on everyone, was one of the only people to actually vote Rhino, and his fencesitting could easily be townz overelaborating on a weak comparative read.

SOCIO GET ON THIS WAGON YOURS IS SILLY.

[Gammagooey]

Hey AGM why's Elli prob-town?

[Gammagooey]

Considering that this ISN'T a mini, the claim makes a lot of sense to me- I'm thinking Faraday balanced it like he would a mini and added in the beloved princess to account for town having an extra lynch with 14 total people, AND having a vig around means it's not nearly as game-changing as it would be otherwise.

@DT- having Vezok on your alliance list is booooooo. Rhino's easy vote on him makes him a littttttle more likely town but his attacking him While unvoting him later could pretty easily be distancing IMO.

[Gammagooey]

I'm gonna have

Limited Access

until Thursday evening- My 21st birthday is tommorrow and then I have exams Wednesday and Thursday to study for and take.

I don't want to lynch SpyreX given the vig claim.

I've read over the case on AGM and AGM's iso- It's not a bad case but I have a gut town read on AGM, and I don't think the case is as strong as Elli's uselessness + never mentioning Rhinoz once through all the VV/Rhinox debacle yesterday when both VV and Rhinox were scumgiants among men AND had connections to each other that I still can't completely wrap my head around.

OH HEY NINJAS.

If SpyreX is just a one-shot vig then DT might actually be the best play for today : /.
Bluh. Still want Elli dead but give me a minute to go over magnus's thing.

[Gammagooey]

So basically with 11 alive we lose a mislynch either way- I don't think DT would do this as scum so we either use a lynch on him now that could be used on scum or we lose a mislynch anyway with his death.

I'd rather lynch for realz now. Even if Vezok is town then we should still have at least one more power role out there that could make the extra night suck less, and if we lynch a scumz now and if we have a tracker/roleblocker then it'll make their job a lot easier. If Vezok ISN'T town then I'd guess two PRs out there that'll benefit more from the extra night than a lynch on DT.

[Gammagooey]

FATEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE.

You're forgetting about the damn scummy lurker and going after the guy overdefending himself JUST LIKE YESTERDAY.
Magnus's Socio suspicion is a bit OMGUSy but I can see magnus believing Socio-scum considering the best scumhunting he's done is on prob-town SpyreX, and he's pretty high up there on my death list too if Elli flips scum given his reluctance to vote him despite saying he's scummy multiple times.

Elli's had 3 days to catch up since his SATs finished and he STILL hasn't done shit except narrow down his vote to one of Four people, and Rhinox had him listed as town with Zito (who is now almost certainly town) for a retarded reason, And his d1 play consisted of nothing but Fluff and explanationless VV votes.

Wagon swing pleeease.

[Gammagooey]

YEAAAAAPPPPPPPPPPPP.
AND IT'S NOT LIKE I'VE SEEN YOU CALL YOURSELF SCUMMY AS SCUM IN HOLY ORDERS OR ANYTHING YA KNOW.

[Gammagooey]

FINE SOCIO LET'S HAVE HAPPY HYPOTHETICAL SITUATION TIMEZ.

ELLI GETS LYNCHED TODAY AND FLIPS SCUM.
AFTER MUCH PARTYING WHO WOULD YOU VOTE TOMMORROW?

[Gammagooey]

So instead of Elli-scum hurrying up his reread and either bussing or trying to get a counterwagon from magnus going he...waits out 8 votecounts of day 2 for his buddy to vote first?
Hmmmmmmmmmmmno.

[Gammagooey]

So apparently Vezok's neighborize actually works the same way DT is saying anyway, but why would he be scum because a different mod in a different game used neighborize mechanics in a different way o.o?
If Vezok's scum he's scum for coasting on Fate's opinion for easy mislynches, not role shenanigans. Fakeclaiming neighborizer would be a really silly thing to do when it's so easily provable AND it's not a role that people immediately think of as town.

And actually Elli can have a completely arbitrary twentyyyyy...nine hour period of time to post SOMETHING useful.

I'm gonna steal some of Socio's words here.
"ZOMG U CALL

MANGO

ELLI SCUMMY BUT YER VOTE ISNT ON HIM"

Vote: Sociopath

[Gammagooey]

@DT-The story shenanigans IS a lot better than the different mod mechanics=scum.
APPROV'D.

And he still hasn't answered the question about his reads from way back on my birthday. (<---VEZOK YOU SHOULD DO THIS BTW)
But then I'd have to NOT be voting one of Socio/Elli.
Which isn't happening right now.

[Gammagooey]

-Elli as pretty townie:



Dear Vezok: Why he townz? Like, at all.

[Gammagooey]

ARBITRARY TIME LIMIT EXPIRED. ELLI DEATH TIME.

Unvote, Vote: Ellibereth

^^This is L-1^^

[Gammagooey]

A year passed.

[Gammagooey]

^Pretty much this except I'll be done Thursday night

[Gammagooey]

STUPID NEW PAGE.
Above post references this-

FinAls times. V/la till Saturday.

[Gammagooey]

-Me voting Vezok when Elli continues doing nothing as he's done allll gaaaaameeeeeee longggggggggggggggggggg

-I'll take THINGS THAT AREN'T HAPPENING FOR $400 ALEX

[Gammagooey]

EDWOP: 4 should say "over Vezok and AGM" or something to that effect. Maybe even throw Ellie in there too (>_>)

sssssssssssssssh
I'm just waving a magical ballerina wand right now.

I'm chickening out until I read the thread tomorrow.

unvote

I lied.

Vote: vas

And sorry about the lack of postage yesterday...had too much work.

shishitshit, More delay ugh.
I really will have vezok's buddy by tonight, probably someone on my wagon now.

Srsly you guys.
One guess on who needs a thousand pounds of death dropped on them.
Right now.

(YES I SHOULD BE STUDYING SHUT UP IT'S HARD)

[Gammagooey]

Bluhhhhhh.
I think DT needs to be lynched today.

Yes he's like 98% town.
But lynching him is the only lynch that for sure won't end the game today with a scum victory (by scum killing him after a mislynch and getting an extra kill), and basically makes sure that there aren't 4 scum and DT-scum didn't make an awesome claim to make everyone think there would be only three.

Not actually voting DT until he says everything he wants said by the end of the day though.

[Gammagooey]

Notttt really seeing how the stronger vote on UK from Rhinoz compared to the weak one and the easy hop on hop off from vezok means more likely UK-scum and less likely Vezok-scum instead of the other way around. Between the two I think vezok is more likely for pretty much that + Fate sheeping instead of actually doing shit himself and the Elli shenanigans.

A pretty decent part of my Socio suspicion was based on Elli flipping scum and Socio helping to lynch magnus instead of him- Since that didn't happen the biggest things against him from my POV are playing similarly to MOHO and the pushing on mangus when there were better lynches after mangus' PR claim.

What I think needs to happen is this-
DT lynch to avoid losing today and force scum to narrow shit down
Massclaim tommorrow
And go on everything from there.

[Gammagooey]

Sigh Socio.

The point is that Elli was a better lynch than magnus for both Elli's play and magnus's PR claim, they didn't really make sense as scum together, and you pushed on the PR claim instead of being willing to change your mind, as well as saying that if Elli was scum you'd still lynch magnus next even though it would mean Elli was playing not only BADLY but wasn't even trying to ensure that any of his scumteam would be alive after the next day.

[Gammagooey]

The important things from MOHO (http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 76&start=0) are his general lack of effort until late-game when he starts being a major suspect and him diffusing parts of the case on himself there by mocking the case-makers to the point of making a case on himself just to go through it with as much sarcasm as possible.

[Gammagooey]

Socio not bussing as a tell is pretty bleh but DT is right that Socio killing SpyreX (and to a lesser degree Fate) wouldn't be his optimal kills by a longshot.

Between the voters/votees Vezok stands out for his Elli madness and UK vote out of nowhere.

Jah's last part of his case is good but Vezok still makes more sense to me as scum with Rhinox with the easier vote on him and the quick hop off, and the middle part of it looks a lot more like a case against Rhinoz instead of UK.

[Gammagooey]

I'm waiting on DT's stuff before I throw down a vote, also won't be here tommorrow since I'm driving home after family Christmas stuff but I'll have all the time in the world on the 28th.

[Gammagooey]

Kay.

Between the voters/votees Vezok stands out for his Elli madness and UK vote out of nowhere.

Jah's last part of his case is good but Vezok still makes more sense to me as scum with Rhinox with the easier vote on him and the quick hop off, and the middle part of it looks a lot more like a case against Rhinoz instead of UK.

[Gammagooey]

First off,

unvote: vezok

. Softclaim is meh and she still hasn't done anything but there are better lynches.

^looks like shitty distancing after getting an easy reason to unvote his partner

Hey. I am V/LA.

But I found some internet connection and I will try to post here.

Why didn't I vote UK?

unvote
vote UK

The only time you're Ever mentioned by vezok before this is the "Pretty scummy" line in his list of reads

Can I hammer?

This comes after listing Elli as pretty townie and not explaining any reason for it

From the Elli wagon I don't like Jahudo.

Sp should have died yesterday instead of elli.

This after his last post in which he asks to hammer, also winds up dropping Socio-suspicion entirely a bit later


And the general sheeping of Fate for the first two days instead of thinking himself.

[Gammagooey]

Better question.

Why aren't you just going through my iso to get the answers to half these questions?

Bluhhhhhh.
I think DT needs to be lynched today.

Yes he's like 98% town.
But lynching him is the only lynch that for sure won't end the game today with a scum victory (by scum killing him after a mislynch and getting an extra kill), and basically makes sure that there aren't 4 scum and DT-scum didn't make an awesome claim to make everyone think there would be only three.

Not actually voting DT until he says everything he wants said by the end of the day though.

The ONLY way I can see 4 total scum is if DT is scum who pulled an amazing gambit and is actually a mafias, which doesn't make sense given how today has gone down, so 3 scum total 2 left.

[Gammagooey]

Yeah actually I'm not going to answer that just yet.

Why do you care who I think vezok's scumbuddy is?

[Gammagooey]

It's WIFOM-tastic but if someone has a STRONG stance on someone being a scumbuddy then scum will take that into consideration with night-kills. Weak ones will probably be ignored though.

ninja'd-

To elaborate, I wonder how mutable your informationless reads are. And how much of that mutability might be for conveniently changing inconvenient opinions.

Just an idle thought.

Is this directed at me, Socio, or both?

[Gammagooey]

Ohhhhhh UK. Socio's right about you isn't he.

DT still needs to word it up in here in case he gets offed tonight but I'm pretty sure UK isn't thinking like a town UK would right now.

(Bonus points to anyone else who sees what UK did)
(Hint:it's on this page)

[Gammagooey]

Tee hee.

SO AFRAID UK YOU DON'T EVEN.

[Gammagooey]

I was thinking Socio earlier but if he is scum I'm pretty sure he's yo' scumbuddy at this point.

[Gammagooey]

So I'm a little disapointed that nobody else is trying to find what I did on UK but whatever.
Also @Jahudo I'm not gonna go into vezok stuff anymore until tommorrow since I think UK just became more likely scum than him.

In the entire last page UK goes off on a questioning rampage AFTER Socio puts the L-1 vote on her.
And I'm not voting her.

I'm pretty sure town-UK would have realized that I physically can't be scum unless I'm in a 2-man team with DT or something equally ridiculous is going on with DT's Beloved Princess claim, and she's mentioned nothing to suggest she's thinking that way.

UK pretty clearly notes the vote on her from Socio so it's not like she missed it and thinks she's still at L-2.
The answer to why she hasn't realized that I would be cleared is because she subconsciously knows that people who aren't voting her now AREN'T cleared townies- she Hasn't thought "I'm town so what do the votes currently in place say about people's alignments?", she's just asking a bunch of mostly already answered questions to make it look like she's scumhunting and try and save herself from the noose.

UK is just scums.

Now a vote would go here and it would be awesome and everything except DT Stillllllll isn't here yet and it makes me sad.

[Gammagooey]

THIS IS MY THOUGHTS.

Vote:UncertainKitten

@Gamma: You do note that Vezok is voting me, right? Further, what reason have I to believe DTM? I've had suspicions from the start about the function of his role. Why would scum hammer if they weren't sure? I can't imagine they'd make that bet.

Further, I questioned you because you disappeared. I actually suspect Socio is Vezok's scumbuddy at this juncture, but my questions led me there.

Vezok voting UK had nothing to do with what I said.

She's STILL not recognizing that if she's town me-scum would have to be with DTMaster and ONLY DTMaster despite me pointing it out. (3 scum remaining means I could hammer and win anyway, if DT is lying he's scum period)

And it still looks like she's posting for the sake of posting instead of actually scumhunting (probably since she thinks she's going to die anyway)


Aaaaand DT was apparently here but didn't post. If he had something important enough to say that it was worth holding the hammer a bit for it he should have Come in and Said So.

It's Lynchin' times.

[Gammagooey]

...Seriously?

Lying as town about that is out of the question. He could have easily been the lynch earlier on to avoid the extra night penalty and all it would have done is fuck the town out of a mislynch.

AS A SIDE NOTE.
if DT has a chance of lying as town like you think.
Then why do we lose? :3

[Gammagooey]

Vote: DTMaster

I don't think there's anything else to say today. We could try and pick a scummiest player but if we're wrong and DTM is town, we'd probably be screwed. I think we should play it safe.

4 person mafia seems really unlikely based on the low power of the town that we've seen so far (if DTM is telling the truth). So I think we're destined for a 3 person lylo tomorrow, and massclaim would be best saved for then too.

Prrretty much this exactly. I still don't think he'll flip scum despite his complete nonappearance yesterday since his BP claim would be a pretty shitty gambit but it's not worth the risk of leaving him alive for no benefit except his continued wordage.

Vote: DTMaster

^L-1

[Gammagooey]

Eh.

I don't want to get into my Personal opinions on who's the best lynch tommorrow but I think you guys could use some devil's advocate in here.

In regards to UK bussing/not bussing Vezok- UK was going after Vezok for most of the day Before LYLO as well as the day of, including stating that she was hammering Elli as a compromise and that she wanted Vezok dead the next day- if it started out as just distancing from vezok she may have thought she couldn't pull off an opinion change convincingly once LYLO actually arrived.

In regards to multiscum shenanigans- I don't get why the lack of it is disturbing at all: the only 2nd kill was explained by the claimed and then flipped one-shot vig, and Rhino's flip of

Mafia Goon

had no qualifier like Villan mafia or prosecutor mafia that would suggest there are two different groups.

[Gammagooey]

DT whatever you're smoking I want some.

Um... Spyrex claimed the second kill Gamma. He claimed 1 shot vig. You're talking about a

third kill

and multiscum why?

Also I find the lack of multi scum hunting disturbing. Jahduo gets lots of points for that. In my original list I had a scum-gut feeling about you, but you're the only one at the moment that's scumhunting.

Gammakitty - So you think UK is bussing. And you think Vezok is scum righttttt??????

Eh.

I don't want to get into my Personal opinions on who's the best lynch tommorrow but I think you guys could use some devil's advocate in here.

[Gammagooey]

dead game is dead.

@DT- that makes more sense but in general I'm seeing today as a modified no-lynch: We can't lynch who we think is actually the scummiest without losing the game, and I think it's better to not have much information on individual player reads so that ze scum has less ability to manipulate how tommorrow goes with the nightkill.
Adding in that you'll be dead tommorrow no matter what means it makes sense for you to give all your reads now and have some conversation in helping you determine how solid those reads are but I still think the best play for everyone else is to keep quiet about what they personally think about the other players until tommorrow.

[Gammagooey]

<---isn't hammering

[Gammagooey]

@AGM- claim plox. I've got a PRETTY GOOD IDEA of the case on Vezok but I wouldn't mind a short summary of why he's scum from your perspective too.

@Vezok- Why AGM scum plz kthanks.

[Gammagooey]

Actually given the shenanigans with UK claiming to be neighborized I doubt he's lying about being a neighborizer- vezok flipping not neighborizer would screw over UK pretty badz.
What would make a lot MORE sense is that Vezok-scum can't kill and neighborize in the same night and has made the kill most nights.

Vezok why HAVEN'T you been neighborizing people. Especially with your DT hammer, you could have sent in the action right after that.

[Gammagooey]

So Vezok softclaim of "an awesome role" and then proceeding to not use it really does look terrible.
And he's lurked for the entire game.
And he has his Elli shenanigans which STILL don't make sense.
AND I've had a slight town read on AGM for most of the game.
Aaaand Vezok posts in the other game I'm in with him and not this one.

NOPE. TIME TO DIE.

Vote: Vezokpiraka

[Gammagooey]

See why didn't you come in and say thattttttt.

I might not have BELIEVED you but it would be better than <nothing>

[Gammagooey]

Oh hey mod scene and everything.

Yeah I thought there might be another town PR given that in general town was pretty weak (although vezok being completely useless was a large part of that), and didn't want to risk a draw in the unlikely scenario that AGM was a gambiting bulletproof. I WAS going to hammer AGM as soon as vezok crossvoted but then he decided to not show up in-game and I got impatient.

I was wrong about a lotttt of stuff in the quicktopic btw- feel free to make fun of me for it.

Comments on the game as a whole-
I think reporter should have been tracker to make it a LITTLE harder for scum to fakeclaim around him
All goons with a 1-shot vig to give another mislynch to the town was pretty clever
DT Probably should have claimed that his BP claim was a gambit the day he was lynched- I would have pushed on him a little for it but there was a pretty high chance of vezok getting lynched instead of him had he done that IMO.

Oh, and I had no intention of bussing UK until she was like OH NO I HAVEN'T SAID ANYTHING TO GAMMA DISTANCE DISTANCE DISTANCE and it looked weird and yeah. It probably would have gone better for town if vezok had gotten lynched that day >.> (DT dies and it's me UK Jah Socio AGM in 2-scum LYLO)

[Gammagooey]

Oh Elli really should have replaced out too IMO. Him getting lynched was a large part of why vezok lived so long.

[Gammagooey]

Yeah yeah I'm a mean terrible person.

But you going ballistic on VV and mangus and forcing your views to be seen over everyone else's was pretty much the main reason why they cracked under pressure and got lynched (VV to a lesser extent but still).

[Gammagooey]

Oh I was thinking about posting this since it seemed appropriates.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8-kPfPNvZI#t=40s

[Gammagooey]

Also I guess I made some good night kills given the dead quicktopic- I expected that Vi would continue thinking I was scum there but basically the whole topic agreeing on it until my L-1 bus of UK was o.O

[Gammagooey]

Gamma I'm hurt you murderered me

Well played though.

*hug*
I sent a message to the earlier NK victims via UK saying I was sorry (except Fate, who I may have taunted a little), the game did get a lot less fun as you all got killed off but with the exception of Socio I think I would have been screwed if they had stuck around >.>

And I Diid kill Socio before you :3. (Although it was because I thought him dying instead of me going into LYLO would look fishy and doing it then would be less so)

[Gammagooey]

I'm pretty good at looking town to people who haven't seen me as town and scum in games before.

The more people that do the harder scum gets for me though, even in this game you see 2/3 of players who have mod'd games I've played in having some pretty early paranoia of me. [and Zito was busy being right about UK and then replacing out]

As for NK wifom shenanigans well.

I ONLY SPEAK THE TRUTH.
...in quicktopics.

[Gammagooey]

noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Actually I was thinking about changing my avatar to avoid FATEWRATH in another game once we actually get alignments. How do you feel about baneling plushies?

[Gammagooey]

Rhino is bad at scums. I am sorry but this is true.
And I said you were only good AGAINST bad players, not at catching them- UK weaseled out of your grasp pretty nicely until we thought you would attack her the next day due to a lack of other/better suspects, when you became deads.

And I thought you'd be a little irritated at losing, and combine that with the fact that you've seen me as scum now and associate my play more easily with that of the scums. Avy changes really do help with subconscious stuff like that, I remember hunting for SK/others in PoA and popsofctown looking oh so much better as soon as he changed the avy that I associated with his early posts, and realized that a lot of the more recent stuff wasn't as bad as I thought it looked at the time.

[Gammagooey]

I did not even have a slot in MOHOs. I was the Seraph.

You saw me as scum uh. Like yesterday. in this game. (i don't mean saw as in "read me as" i mean saw as "you witnessed me being scum")

[Gammagooey]

You'll see.
YOU'LL ALL SEE.
I still want an opinion from someone on the baneling plushie though.

[Gammagooey]

Damnit Fate YOU PLAY STARCRAFT TOO.
does thisss look familar at least.

*waits for the connection*

[Gammagooey]

glargagagarararara.

It's an adorable plushie version of a zerg baneling. And I am asking peoples if it would look good/appropriates/whatevs as an avatar.
And I have trouble understanding why you didn't recognize it as a baneling when you play SC and uh yeah.

I'm out of words.

[Gammagooey]

>.> I AM hoping to be town in my next game ya know.
I may be GOOD at scum but town is a lot more fun.

I'll search around some for a better avy than the baneling though.

[Gammagooey]

/ignore Fate's opinions