Mini 57 - Office Space Mafia GAME OVER

[JereIC]

Spoon! Er, I mean, Confirm!

[JereIC]

Vote: Scalebane

becuase he's near my arch-nemesis korais666 on the list-o-rama,

and it was random.

[JereIC]

... three mafia (Lundburg and the two consultants) and a SK (Milton) ... if someone has a better plan.

Well, I don't have a better plan. But I've reread the entire thread and a few times and used the search function twice and I really can't find any line stating anyone named Lundburg (I understand you mean the boss. Am I right?) or that the serialkiller is named Milton. I am pretty curious where you get that information from.

No vote yet.

Actually, I think it's Issac's assumptions are pretty good for this game. IIRC from Office Space, Lundburg hired the consultants to fire people, and we see that one killing party fires people. There was also Milton who got his stapler stolen by Lundburg. He also got skrewed around with, and finally snapped and burned the office down. The other killing party, we see, asked for a little red stapler, then torched someone, so it's reasonable to assume that Milton's the other killer. A mafia is by definition multiple people acting in concert, and a serial killer is by definition a lone gun, so Issac's assumptions seem ok to me. Also (and this is just insider knowledge), Darkblade's last game, Sluggy mafia, had three mafia and an SK, but the SK turned good for story reasons. It was a pretty succesful game, so Darkblade may have used that format again.

Not sure what else to do now, I'll post again when I get back from classes.

[JereIC]

Wow, I hadn't even thought of that. I thought the "set on fire" was a pun on "fired."

After replying he didn't, he was suddenly doused in propane and lit on fire.

That's kind of a hard thing to misinterpret. Then again, I've been known to forget my own name early morning, so who am I to pass judgement?

(And on a sidenote, the use of "murder" in terms of killing originated in a similar way. It used to be that if you killed someone, you'd leave their body out, so as to get eaten by crows. Groups of crows are called a murder, so killing got associated with murder.)

Back on topic, I don't find anything particularly suspect about bloojay, so I'm not sure why Isaac's so intent on getting a role from him. On the other hand, that's pretty much how

[JereIC]

(I'm also prone to posting before I've complete my thought during the early evening ).

On the other hand, that's pretty much how all the other random bandwagoning I've seen works.

[JereIC]

guys, I'm a coptype and I investigated bloojay and I can verify his claim. He seemed to be looking for a girl.

I don't want to be critical, but I don't think you should have revealed yourself to vouch for bloojay. It's not known if there's another doc, and you're definately scum's #1 target for tonight. Maybe if bloojay was closer to a lynch it'd be a better idea, but I think everyone was waiting to see if a real Drew came out, and would have probably let him off the hook soon.

[JereIC]

Someone has no forethought...
Or maybe someone is trying to look like townie and is really mafia...

I kind of doubt that. If either bunsofsteel or bloojay die, and turns out to be scum, the other is lynch-bait. I don't think they'd associate so publicly if they were scum.

Now, if one of them does die, and does turn out to be scum, that'd be a different matter...

Otherwise,

let's get our talk on, people!

I'd especially like to hear more from Cynical, since he's only posted once, and that was just to vote randomly.

Unvote: Scalebane

Vote: Cynical

[JereIC]

Usually on first day, I unvote somebody as soon as they talk, but I'm kind of getting scum-vibes from Cynical. He's posted twice in game, and says he doesn't have much to say. However, he seems to be checking the game pretty often; note how he posted three minutes after me. Those two don't necessarily lead to him being scum, but they do point there a little. I hate to pick on new players, but I want to pick on Cynical a little more and see what information we get. Anyone with me?

[JereIC]

Careful all, that's 4/6.

Although lynching somebody without a defense might cause more talk...

[JereIC]

Unvote: Cynical

This is ludicrious. As much of a pain as it is to get replacements for minis, I'm thinking that's the best course of action for Cynical and for maybe a few other players as well. Obviously that's the mod's call, but I'm just astonished by how slow the day's been going, and I think some more active players might help.

[JereIC]

I am the filing clerk (bad spelling not mine.)

I can search the records for clues each night, but doing so strains my sanity. I did not do it last night, and I will not do it ever, as I don't want to lose my sanity, whatever that means.

Hey, I'll buy that, and a side of fries. I think "strain your sanity" means that as you investigate more, your results are more likely to be inaccurate. That is, if you investigate too much, you are more likely to find indications that someone is scummy when they're actually townie. You can read more about sanity in the mafiascum.net Cop-type roles page.

I don't know about Untrod Tripod, he seems to be posting at about the same level as bloojay and yourself. One person I would like to hear from is mikehart, who hasn't posted since the 21st, and only to randomly vote bloojay.

[JereIC]

Yeah, Samir sounds like a very likely role, and the fact that no one has come forward to say "WTF, I'm Samir!" leades me to believe that BoS is Samir. I'll buy it.

I'm actually beginning to doubt Untrod Tripod now, I'm seeing what Cynical was saying about his posting style. He seems to be giving out as little info as possible, but stilly trying to launch bandwagons against people. So, to at least get a little more explanation,

Vote: Untrod Tripod

[JereIC]

@ Untrod Tripod. Definately not lifting my vote now.

[JereIC]

Yeah, dead scum! Poor buns, though.

I have to reread this game before picking on anyone. Anyone else have thoughts?

[JereIC]

If I counted right, the next vote on Mikehart lynches him. A little patience is in order; he's said in other games that he's been grounded at home, and isn't in the best situation to play. Whether he gets replaced or not is up to Darkblade. Lynching him is up to us, and I think it wouldn't be useful right now.

BTW, I have some thoughts on this:

What happened to Milton?

My first thought was another doc saved the day, since I doubt we'd only have Michael Bolton's probabilistic protection. However, IIRC from Darkblade's previous themed game, the serial killer became a pro-town vigilante halfway through the game, because she was targeted by a role specifically designed to make her pro-town. It's possible Darkblade's using the same mechanic here, although I'd bet he'd make Milton something non-violent, and he got turned good night one (after his first kill). But I'd bet on doc first.

[JereIC]

Bloojay: there are seven people alive, and four are voting mikehart now. He's lynched, and this is twilight. I'm putting out a big ol'

FOS: Issac

for making that last vote on mikehart without a second thought. Nice, short day, though. :deep hurting:

[JereIC]

Huh? Here's what I see:

Don't Bend (4):

Koriass666, Scalebane, Cynical, bloojay

Bend (0)

Not Voting (3):

JereIC, Issac, oh-so-dead mikehart

Which of those votes have I mistook?

[JereIC]

I think he was referring to the line I highlighted down here:

I am going to Vote: No Rules bend.

Voting no bend leaves us exactly where we were before.

And if he is lynched and discovered to be Mafia, then we should probably hit bloojay (no offense) and if he is a townie, I really think we should aim for Cynical and korais666 as they have both voted to kill him with no really good reason. I personally think that I have a perfectly good reason for my action although, it will probably come under close scrutiny later, I feel this is the best move.

Of course, I could be horribly, horribly wrong.

[JereIC]

Korais666: We only have 4 people left. I am assuming that this means 2 mafia, 2 townies, as if it was 3 mafia, 1 townie, the game would be over.

This means best case scenario:
Hit mafia today.
SK hits mafia tonight.

I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand. If we have two mafia, it's game over already. Since the game's still running, there must be one mafia, Milton, a vigelante of some sort, and one townie. Any other combination doesn't make sense. I think we shouldn't vote yet, but instead come up with a list of who we think is most likely scum, and another list of who is most likely to be Milton. Quite frankly, we can only firmly put one death on Milton, so he may not be evil, or at least not evil anymore (like I suggested based on Darkblade's last game). I think we should focus on the last mafia, and then if that doesn't resolve the game, have our vig kill the suspected Milton.

So, let's not vote for anything, and instead review the game and come up with suspects for mafia.

[JereIC]

Hey, Cynical, sorry you've had trouble with the game, and I hope you come back later. I know what it's like; my first game, I survived to almost the end, but I got beat up something awful with logic puzzles and pscychology. I just couldn't play again for about a month, and I almost didn't come back at all. When I did finally play another game, I was able to understand everything that was going on, and actually won (with the help of my good friends, Totem, mathcam, and blind luck). So even if you leave this game sore, try coming back later and see how you like the game. It's a lot of fun if it's your thing.

On another note, I remember that you claimed to be filing clerk. Have you investigated anyone?

[JereIC]

Heh, I think Cynical is joking.

Again, I may be horribly, horribly, horribly wrong.

[JereIC]

Cynical, you are just joking, correct?

I'm beginning to think we should all just claim roles now, and see which one doesn't stack up. What do the rest of y'all think?

[JereIC]

Hold a sec, no one else vote for Cynical. I've got a long post coming.

[JereIC]

We can still win this game, but we need to lynch mafia today. I'll just come out and say this,

I'm Milton.

I was charged with finding my red stapler. Each night, I chose someone, and if they had my stapler, I'd become a vigelante and they'd be spared. However, if they didn't, I'd torch them. Night one I chose Tigris, who didn't have it, and night 2 I chose Mikehart, who did have it. Now I'm a vigelante; I can kill someone tonight, and if we lynch the last mafioso today, I can off Cynical. I think since I've already stated I'm Milton, if anyone believes I'm still evil, despite only killing one person (sorry Tigris!), then have Cynical target me tonight (and I him).

This of course means that either Scalebane or korias666 is the last scum. I'd like to hear claims from both of you.

[JereIC]

Doesn't the same still apply if we kill Cynical today, then you kill the last mafioso?

The thing is, we know who the last SK is. I'd prefer to have a known scum to kill tonight than to try and guess who the last mafioso is. If we lynched a townie today, it would still be possible to win, by Cynical and the mafia killing each other, and me targetting one or the other. However, if we lynch Cynical now and I kill the townie tonight, maifa wins. As such, I'd like to know that we lynched the mafia today. In theory, it wouldn't matter who we killed first, but I feel a lot more comfortable about targetting Cynical tonight than second-guessing on mafia.

Either way, we need to figure out who the mafia is before we go to night.

[JereIC]

I'm so sorry! I don't mean "scum" as an insult or name-calling. I use it to mean people with anti-town roles (mafia, serial killers, etc.), and it's nothing personal at all. I even call myself scum in games when I'm anti-town (like in Mini 44, and how I was scum in this game until night 2). Again, I apologize for insulting you, and I'll try to avoid using potentially mean terms for the rest of this game.

[JereIC]

Touché.

FOS: Scalebane

that is mighty close to a vote, as he hasn't said much about this endgame except for his (I believe) misguided No Lynch vote.

[JereIC]

Was it something I said? *sniffs armpits*

[JereIC]

I think the "buried in paper" was hinting at the filing clerk. I'm not sure why Milton would have vigilante powers once getting his stapler back, though. That seems somewhat illogical to me.

Sorry, I glossed over that in my claim. I got a motivational note night one, which would make me turn into a vigelante if I ever turned sane (before, I'd just turn into a townie). I'm assuming that was Issac as Peggy.

[JereIC]

Here is how I see things:
1 Mafia
1 Townie
1 Pro-town Vig
1 Anti-town Vig

We lynch mafia today, and the town wins. I am tired of being held up in this mini, so I will go ahead and give up.

I am mafia

. Yeah. You read that right.

Vote Scalebane

. I am the big boss man. The godfather equivalent. And I am not joking.

I've been leaning in that direction lately.

Vote: Scalebane

[JereIC]

He ha said he'd be gone until today, right? He's probably going to rest some before jumping onto mafiascum (I know I always rest when I get back from a trip, worry about online later). I don't think we're gonig to get an update until tonight.

[JereIC]

Huh. Once scalebane came out, I was thinking Korias was management as well, but I couldn't figure out a way to work it out without Cynical winning. Looks like there was no way, besides lynching... uhm, no one. Like Scalebane suggested. Well played, mafia.