Multiple Personality Mafia (Game Over)

[Yasuda]

.Hello. I am..I am Rion, the successor to the Ushiromiya Family. I hope we can all play with courtesy. ^.^

Vote: Lady Lambdadelta

for looking like she's always on that nasty witch Bernkastel's side.

Mafuyu's ALREADY getting slammed for the third person? But Mafuyu hadn't posted yet! ;.;

Vote Rena

for taking this seriously already

But, Mafuyu, wouldn't it be better if we could all concentrate on serious matters earlier? We are in a pressing situation, after all.

[Yasuda]

Oh, dear, it seems as if I've messed up my tags.

Mod: could you please fix those?

[Yasuda]

Also, I would like to explore the mechanics a bit, if everyone doesn't mind. I think it would be a bit silly to claim roles, obviously, but what of timelines? What do people think of that? I for one think it has its pros and cons, and I wouldn't necessarily be for or against it.

[Yasuda]

Also, I would like to explore the mechanics a bit, if everyone doesn't mind. I think it would be a bit silly to claim roles, obviously, but what of timelines? What do people think of that? I for one think it has its pros and cons, and

I wouldn't necessarily be for or against it.

Why suggest an idea, and then act like you're trying to distance yourself from it?

I'm not distancing. I'm suggesting an idea and asking for opinions. I myself have my own opinions (which I might as well share now, anyway), but right now, I've no way of knowing if I'm missing stuff. So, how am I supposed to have an idea of what to do with it? Not psychic.

My opinions on it are:
- It's a bit of a claim, and while the information itself's nowhere near as big as, say, a flavor or role claim, it could still be damaging.
- It may not be much use, depending on what comes out.
- It can hammer down information immediately, and could lead to contradictions in scum rhetoric later on.
- I think I had one more, but I've forgotten, so.

Is that level of reasoning possible for you, Lambda?

[Yasuda]

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads.

Unvote, Vote ShadoWolf

[Yasuda]

Funny thing I noticed in my Skimathon 2011:

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads

.

However, I'm

not too sure on any of these reads

being concrete, as this is only D1.

Emphasis mine. Now, I'm not sure what you make of it, Shado, but this to me looks like, well, to be obvious, using scumreads as a reason and then dismissing them anyway. Just saying.

shannon's content-mobile will be entering the station shortly, don't worry

[Yasuda]

Note: I may be saying what has been said a thousand times over. It is, unless otherwise noted, unintentional, as Skimathon 2011 didn't lend much to remembering what's been said.

PoS: Yasuda

Not sure how to feel about claiming timelines. Doesn't really help us too much, but I'm not going to scream and RAGE IN ALL CAPS if we decide to do it, either. Then again, I still haven't finished my first cup of coffee, so I'm not thinking straight.

~Pie

Not sure what the giant quivering penis of suspicion is for when you don't know how to feel about it. But, hey.

Pick someone and vote, or else don't vote. There's rarely a good reason to NL. The only decent time I've seen it was at MYLO in the game I modded.

Okay fine.

Unvote

WHY would you unvote? People might think you were lurking again!!!!!

However, this is very true. As there's already enough pressure on ShadoWolf I'm going to VOTE: Elli until new information arises.

Because, you know, too much pressure on possible!scum is a bad thing.

FoS

Scum with Shadowolf. Lynch #2 found.

Someone doesn't think exactly as he does so he FoS's him. That's kinda suspect.

CHAINSAW DEFENSE

i ought to read exe in ISO after this

Look at XYZ!

There's a lot of "Take a look at XYZ" going on without the people saying it actually taking looks. It's not a great trend.

Tuniogen is confident, for the time being, in Exe being scum. Tuniogen could go into his ISO and do a PBPA, but Tuniogen feels such analysis would be moot. So, Tuniogen will simply quote his latest post (#108):

You scum bro?

QFS: Quoted For Scumness.

VOTE: Exe

I don't get it. You say something's scummy, and then leave us to figure out how? What?

Or maybe that something is a vote. (

I still think Shado is scum, though.

He hasn't really made a breakthrough.)

unvote

VOTE: Ellibereth

Emphasis mine. So, if you think Shado is scum, WHY ARE YOU MOVING OFF HIM?

shannon's content-mobile will be docked in the station for some time on pages 6-9, with a departure time soon

i.e. covering p6-9 in a bit

[Yasuda]

EBWOP: And by soon, I mean maybe tomorrow, it's way too fucking hot in here to think straight. But definitely by tomorrow.

Yeah.

[Yasuda]

hi

posting in however long it takes to get through whereileftoff-here and type up stuff

[Yasuda]

Not going to enjoy the third-person style from Tuni. Oh boy. Once again, may be parroting but I've not read through soooo

I don't see how Elli voting no-lynch is particularly scummy; he knows enough not to actually want to no-lynch, and that NL votes tend to do what other RVS votes do, which is produce discussion.

I agree that frustration under pressure can be a towntell, but I don't think Shado demonstrated it convincingly. Mafuyu pointing out that he was fully aware of having less than half the necessary votes is a good point, and in general, I did not get much "this is BS!" vibes from Shado. But I find THB scummier for this than Shado because I see this as more of the same pointing out common ideas to look like a contributor without checking closely for how well they apply to the situation (as a townie actually trying to figure things out would). The back and forth misrepping accusations also feel like this to me.

So, you're okay with Elli NL-ing because it could produce discussion, buuut Shado is scummy! Yeah, sounds legit.

Different alignment from shadow maybe.

The Wolf stumbles in the shadows.
They are a creature of the Moon

Not the Dark.

Accusing others of that which you yourself did
Lashing out in the darkness
Wondering why no one circles the other as
They circled you

The bloody howl of a dying Wolf.
A sad sound.
The rest of his pack abadoned him.
He falls prey to the light.

Unvote:
Vote: ShadoWolf

FoS

. Start posting cases (as best you can). PRs are not an excuse to wagon like a boss while making ..::*~*POETIC ALLUSIONS*~*::.. which mean nearly nothing.

The end of page six is reminding me once again to ISO Exe. Doing that when this is done.

5 more votes, gogogogogogo

We have time. Time to gather more information. Why so speedious?

ohey beefster says the exact same thing next post, awesome

Unvote Vote Scott

And damnit Fate why aren't I getting townFate yet...

HoS

. Could you, you know, start contributing? Why Scott? What are your thoughts on the wagons?

@Llamarble: Wrongo. Content is overrated. Lynches are the new Wall-o-texts.

GET OUT

nuf ed annog ton si yad siht this ho

ohgodwhy

.part a llits si DLL

Damn straight (s)he is.

A) You're continuing to offer thoughts with no reasoning.
2) If you think Tuni and this hydra are scum together, but different alignment from Shado, that implies that you think Shado might be town. Yet you're still voting him.

A) So? My reasoning exists in my head and I don't see any reason for anyone else to have to know it.
2) Hmm, in a large theme? Nope. I have no reason to believe that the "5 mafia" means only one team, so until otherwise, I think you and Tuni have a connection AND I think Shadow is scum.

@TMH: Better get over it. Your "ultimate scumtell" is pretty outdated. Don't wait around for a "defense."

A) is INCREDIBLY stupid. I really want to vote you right now, but I'll wait until the ISO's over. Goddammit, what the fuck are you doing
2) well i guess that settles it, gl to the 2p maf faction, hope you can beat the 23 other people wanting to kill u

This post is getting kinda long, so I'll hit submit and start typing up another joyous round.

[Yasuda]

Not sure if I like Yasuda. We see her press serious issues but then go off and talk about game mechanics. I think she overreacts here:

Is that level of reasoning possible for you, Lambda?

It's an injoke. Forgive me for trying to keep things slightly light-hearted.

Then she hops on Wolf for I do believe the same thing Ell did. Once again, its interesting Ell did not get attention for this.

See the first part of this post above.

What makes me suspicious of THB is not pointing out scummy things, it's that I get a sense he is excited when he sees something he'll be able to grill somebody over in a way I've noticed myself doing when I've been scum.

Oh my god, you're right! Because the only reason someone gets excited in mafia is when they find something suspicious to distract from themselves!

...or maybe it's because he's found something suspicious that could lead to lynching scum...!

all of #198

:goodposting:

I have nothing to add to it, but I agree with most of it. Yay, beefing word counts!

This is some of the worst play I've ever seen

This is a bad reason to lynch someone.

Nice case scumboy.
Besides, I like my strat, you like yours. Too bad too sad.

* withholding information
* refusing to make cases
* advocating quicklynching

This all seems like it's going to hurt the town, somehow. You know, make their job harder.

That's scummy.

VOTE: exe

I haven;t checked the thread in 24 hours, and all of a sudden I have 5 pages to read. This better not keep up. That or maybe I should check the thread more [/non-serious talk

Anyways, the cases for exe have already been stated, and this day has been exe vs. shado, with all the arguments based around which one is scummier. I've already explained my view on shado, and I honestly think nothing good will come out of that wagon. On the other hand, I really dont like exe at all. Mosts of the posts that are scummy have been described once or twice, and Im kinda in a rush, but you get the idea. Yeah, Im probably gonna get called out for not being helpful, but I really have nothing to add.

Yeah, I'll take the liberty and call you out. I'll expect you to elaborate once you're not in a rush.

GOD I'M SO

EXCITED

ABOUT THIS GAME, LET'S CATCH SOME SCUM GUYS WOO

Not sure what the giant quivering penis of suspicion is for when you don't know how to feel about it. But, hey.

GENTLEMEN... BEHOLD... THE GIANT QUIVERING PENIS OF SUSPICION.

LONGER THAN FLORIDA! FASTER THAN BAD NEWS! THICKER THAN GLENN BECK! IT'S PENIS-MAN! *theme song*

Funny thing I noticed in my Skimathon 2011:

Holy shit. I go to bed and there's now a whole new thread with 40 posts.

Vote: No Lynch

until I get some scumreads

.

However, I'm

not too sure on any of these reads

being concrete, as this is only D1.

Emphasis mine. Now, I'm not sure what you make of it, Shado, but this to me looks like, well, to be obvious, using scumreads as a reason and then dismissing them anyway. Just saying.

I'm not sure what you're getting at here. I used lack of scumreads to place a NL vote, then I said that the scumreads I have are shaky because it's only D1. What point are you trying to make?

The point I'm trying to make is that you are discounting your scumreads somewhat because it's day one, while you used the excuse of gathering scumreads to place a NL vote ON DAY ONE. To simplify it even further, you wanted to get valid scumreads, and then, in the same day, said scumreads couldn't be trusted because it was the first day. Sounds totally legit.

@THB: My strategy generates loads of useful discussion and avoids loads of unnecessary discussion. I get to see everyone's stance on other players clear as day. Your Analysis and Discussion strategy just lets the scum obfuscate their stance behind fancy words.

Because it's pissing me off:
I made it abundantly clear pre-game that there are no post restrictions in this game. That's because I don't want to read them. Nobody does.

HoS Fate, Cupcake Panda

Explain yourselves.

I don't get it. You say something's scummy, and then leave us to figure out how? What?

If you have to figure it out (i.e. it's not blatantly obvious), then you should think about testing your intelligence quotient.

i was raised by wolves and was left to fend for myself, please spell it out

Unvote, Vote: Tuniogen

Elli, Fate, THB, will you join me???

84/5, would read again

more pr bullshit

PoS

.

@Yasuda:

I'm still waiting on that 3 (now 5 or 6) page analysis from you, and if you could put some scumreads in there, that'll be fine and dandy too.

will be addressed in what's looking like a third post.

#41 (Yasuda): *Throws down RVS vote*... Hey Mafu shouldn't you be playing seriously? Contradiction Ahoy!

RVS IS SERIOUS BUSINESS

Righto. Scumreads coming.

Also, just to note, you don't have to call me Yasuda. Yasu is fine.

[Yasuda]

And now, Shannon's Completely Organic Family Friendly Scumreads 2011!

Featuring people of note!

KitoMo

: Now that I reflect on it, they've posted

far

too little. One content post, two replacement-false-alarm posts, and a random vote. Not going to outright say scum, but I'd like to see more activity.

Rena

: Not sure what to think, but I'm leaning town, and admittedly that's mostly gut. I should read through their posts again: I'd have a better idea once I do so.

CupcakePanda

: Not happy with their faking of the PR, regardless of whether it was to fuck around or not. Play's been town, I think, apart from that, but I'm still not happy about that at all.

ShadoWolf

: I am, admittedly, on the fence with Shado. I think he's at least shown that he can and has played town. I can accept the argument that he wanted to be proactive in changing his meta. I am not comfortable with accepting it completely and leaving it at that, as, let's face it, he could have easily just omitted the NL and posted to say he was there. I don't like how he did it, but as stated, I can accept a meta response. Has fallen down the scumdar far enough, so an

unvote

would be appropriate, I think.

Fate

: Not happy about the PR. Not happy he persists with it. Not happy about the lack of content. I would vote Fate, but it's my belief there's bigger scum. Not happy

at all

. Unless he starts posting content, I'm not going to be held responsible by what my vote does.

Ellibereth

: I'll be ISOing him shortly, and post my comments, but until then, I'll wait.

Exe

: Same with Ellibereth, but unlike Ellibereth, I'm leaning scum with Exe. Whether the ISO changes it, I don't know, but I doubt it at this juncture.

Yeah.

P-Edit: SUDDENLY, THOUSANDS OF RESPONSE

[Yasuda]

So, you're okay with Elli NL-ing because it could produce discussion, buuut Shado is scummy! Yeah, sounds legit.

1. So, what does that say about Llama?
2. Is there a possible town reason for him seeing the motivations behind these 2 no lynch votes as different?
3. If so, why is that reason less "legit" then him just being hypocritical scum?
4. What is the scum motivation for being inconsistent with this no lynch stance?

1. To state it in clinical terms, he's targeting one person and leaving the other for the same thing. This presents a contradiction. So, what it says about Llama is thus: Llama is treating Shado differently to Elli, and thus Llama has a reason to treat these two differently. If you wanted to slippery slope it, you could carry that all the way to 'Llama has information that precludes treating these two differently, therefore Llama/Elli are scum', but I don't think that would be nearly appropriate with just this.
2. Not that I can see in the beginning, although with the 10 pages of discussion there is. Town starts off with no information, and so they should be the same in town eyes. However, as said, there's been a bit of discussion, which of course provides information.
3. See 2.
4. This implies the action was on purpose. Isn't it possible that scum simply fucked up?

Different alignment from shadow maybe.

5. Can you elaborate on what " " means?

5. I just think it's ridiculous to be contemplating two scum teams when there's only five mafiosos. Unless Parama's lying to us, but I consider that improbable.

FoS

. Start posting cases (as best you can). PRs are not an excuse to wagon like a boss while making ..::*~*POETIC ALLUSIONS*~*::.. which mean nearly nothing.

This post was directed at Fate's poems. At the time of this, you appeared to believe that Fate had a Post Restriction.

6. What do you think of Fate now that you know he does not have a Post Restriction?

As elaborated in the scumread, I'm not happy with it at all, and would be perfectly happy to pressure him. His current posting style is anti-town and unhelpful, and lets him active lurk while getting away with it.

Preview edit: You did say "FoS," but I wouldn't mind if you elaborated more.

ohey beefster says the exact same thing next post, awesome

7. I'd like you to respond to Lalaterus22 about your Beefster opinions. I think it'd be insightful.

7. I'm confused as to what you mean. Could you rephrase? Sorry.

2) well i guess that settles it, gl to the 2p maf faction, hope you can beat the 23 other people wanting to kill u

8. What do you mean by this? I find it confusing because you've raised several points against him that seem like you think he is scum, and yet this comment seems to come from the POV that you know he is town.[/spoiler]

8. I was mocking the idea of two mafia factions (because, you know, a two player faction in a 20 player game is really balanced). I can't see where you would get that particular POV from, but hey.

Aaand, yeah.

[Yasuda]

Sorry sorry sorry for being Lurkerman 3000. Things got a bit hectic. Should be able to post again now, so that's great.

Though it's going to have to wait until I a) read the thread and b) watch the Globes. But it's coming.

[Yasuda]

WHAT THE FUCK HAPPENED LAST NIGHT

only read d2, i'll get to that other stuff later but WHAT THE FUCK MY HEAD IS HURTING

okay

a) why are we voting TMH christ people vigs exist for a reason
b) did exe stop that no-case bullshit
c) i still really want to know why fate persisted with the poetic bullshit d1
d) ROBOCOPTER'S ISO IS HORRIBLE AKLDSFBASODLJFBAJHSDJNFKLASMZF
e) SERIOUSLY GO LOOK AT IT AND GASP IN HORREUR
f) VOTE: ROBOCOPTER
g) that was all i think
h) hiii lateralus, i certainly am damn neat

[Yasuda]

you know the stories and the narrative and the odd pictures and the yeah

[Yasuda]

b) did exe stop that no-case bullshit

FUCK NO, BUT WHY DID YOU NOT ANSWER MY QUESTION FROM THE NEIGHBOR QT!?


@Fate: Watchyou talkin about? You posted a bunch D1....I r confused.

I WAS SLEEPING BITE ME

[Yasuda]

Did Robo just post something that... looks like content?

~Pie

Under pressure, is that meaningful?

but no, no it isn't at all

also

Are we really waiting two weeks just for a scum death... can't we just lynch him and dayvig another scum when the personality next rolls around? Planning our course of action that far in advance means all we get is 12 days' worth of prod-dodging posts with no content.

Richard.

we could do that, but then it'll be day 3 and the scum will have gained a slight advantage! patience is a virtue, i don't see why rushing right now could be good at all

[Yasuda]

V/LA until Saturday.

[Yasuda]

HEY GUYS I'M BACK FROM MY V/LA WHAT'M I MISSING

I'LL TELL YOU WHAT I'M MISSING I'M MISSING SLEEP

READING IN THE MORNING BUT FOR NOW I REALLY NEED TO GET SOME SHUT-EYE