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Well... that wagon was useless. Faterage was sadly missing as well.
I think ShadoWolf has the wool pulled over everyone's eyes who think he's acting frustrated town. It's not as if this has been going on for a huge amount of time. That would be the quickest snap ever... and his emotions are kept in check several times through his crisis. I know we are multiple personalities and all, but it seems a bit of an act to me.
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Mafia Assassin is their version of the Dayvig, and it was confirmed in the sign up topic, and Scott isn't shooting Fate. (IGMEOY Scott)
There are no confirmable Town roles in this game as Scum have their versions of the same powers as well.
Scum have a governor, a neighbor, a day killer, a cop, a bus driver, and pretty much everything town has. Do not trap yourself into believing anyone is confirmed solely from claiming a normally town role.
The backwards posting thing was Kats idea for sparking up some humor (which apparently didn't go over well). As I mentioned earlier, Kat wanted to post in all smileys, and I kinda gave a big frownie on that idea, but pretending to have a posting restriction does not scum make, it just makes us annoying.
Kat mentioned to me that Exe should be on our suspicions list, so I will attempt to reread later and see if I can build on that case.
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That was Kat, I have no idea why that was said, but I have a sneaking suspicion Kat isn't really paying a lot of attention to this game or just flying by the seat of his pants (though I too haven't been paying a lot of attention, so not all fault can be on Kat). Looking back the only vote we got was from theman for fake posting restrictions. I wouldn't even call it interesting or even worth noting too. It's a baseless vote for not being scummy, but being stupid.
And I am serious that you are not going to shoot Fate. Just because you have a gun doesn't mean that you can up and shoot someone for being silly, stupid, or both. I personally know that Fate is playing at the very minimum 4 games at the moment, and probably more I don't know about. At the moment, I have no reason to suspect Fate simply for not posting in this topic other than poems, and you have no basis to shoot him over it. I assume, if you are telling the truth, your kill probably expires today or soon, and you are afraid that you may not get it back for a while (or at all given how much pressure you have been getting). That doesn't give mean you should use it, it just means you lose it for now, and this early in the game, that's probably for the better.- CupcakePanda
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I had reasons for faking the Post-R.
I mean, it has netted us scum-scott after all.
Scott making statements of shooting Angel Archer further supports the above statement
If you think Angel Archer is scum though I would be most curious to hear as to why.
and it better be something other than"I think Angel Archer is attention-whore scum for posting poetry
P-EDIT: WTF IS THIS SHIT ANGEL ARCHER
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While the basis of your vote is wrong (Town Day Vig and Mafia Assassin do the same thing, remember?) it doesn't make the statement any less scummy. I seriously doubt scum was bussing scum that quickly out of RVS, and I think the comment made by theman reeks.Exe wrote:
ROFL.themanhimself wrote:I think it's either Exe or Fate for reasons I've already gone into. Since the exe wagon is taking off more I'll VOTE: Exe.
I think scott's entire dayvig process was pretty scummy, it seemed like he bussing fate to me. I'm going to keep that under consideration for now.
So are you suggesting that the Day Vig, specifically listed as a town role, is scum?
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@Scott: I can seem some validity to a Mafia Assassin claiming a Day Vig shot to possibly buy some town cred, since if a player was dayvig'd otherwise immediately red flags would start going up as to why and distract conversation. That being said, I don't think you are the appropriate avenue at the moment, and I don't like theman's comment at all.
My scum list might be a bit different than Kat's, since Exe was on Kat's list and I don't rightly see it just yet. I think my two biggest reads at the moment are on theman and twoheaded.
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We had a vote on themanhimself, but just in case you missed it parama, here is a revote:
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-Elli seems incoherent on the game, which is probably a bad sign. The one time I have played with Elli, he was my scum partner and didn't pay attention to the game at all. If Elli starts leaving a string of V/LAs and fluff commentary to get by, he should probably be lynched immediately.
-I am finding myself agreeing more and more with Lateralas' posts, and I think Miller claims right now are definitely a selling point to townness (As as side note, CP has no Miller-esque personalities).
I would like to take it one step further if we can, and see if we can get an accurate timetable of Millerness on all claimed Miller personalities. Since we all have a nifty timetable, could Millers list not only their current run (if it is running) from PD# to PD#, but their next two sets of runs as well PD# to PD#. For example, if you are Miller from PD6 to PD8 and then again from PD24 to PD26, that would be helpful. It would tell scanners where the windows of testing sanity or checking claims lie. It would also make it more difficult for Scum claiming Millers to try and get scanned during their Godfather periods.
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I like Lat, and if Beef thinks he can OMGUS Lat, then I will lend my support to Lat's cause.
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I want to reiterate this part of my post so it doesn't get lost in the mish mash.
What are other people's opinions on this? The only downside I can think of is that it hints at how long player's with Miller personalities cycle their personalities, and I can't really see how that is a bad thing in general.CupcakePanda wrote:I would like to take it one step further if we can, and see if we can get an accurate timetable of Millerness on all claimed Miller personalities. Since we all have a nifty timetable, could Millers list not only their current run (if it is running) from PD# to PD#, but their next two sets of runs as well PD# to PD#. For example, if you are Miller from PD6 to PD8 and then again from PD24 to PD26, that would be helpful. It would tell scanners where the windows of testing sanity or checking claims lie. It would also make it more difficult for Scum claiming Millers to try and get scanned during their Godfather periods.
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That's exactly what I am saying right there. Anyone with a Miller Personality claims the the exact PDs for all upcoming Miller time frames. As mentioned, this is to not only help confirm sanities, but also give the wider window of when a Miller is scannable to prevent scum from saying "Ok, I am not Miller right now, scan me" (trying to bait a scan on Godfather period).Rena wrote:Unless I'm misunderstanding you and you're suggesting millers simply claim the exact time periods when they're millers; I agree with THAT completely.- CupcakePanda
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Looking at page 19 again, I'm getting strong vibes that Beef and TMH are scum together.
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Appears that THM is clearly distancing and preparing to possibly get aboard a Beefster train if it happens, but bases his future actions on whether Lat can present a case or not.themanhimself wrote:
This is clearly just an OMGUS vote and that's pretty scummy. I'd still like to hear from Lateralus to get his opinion of the case thoughBeefster wrote:
Nice shopping list. You have more town reads than suspects. Try some real scumhunting. (I personally suspect more than 2 people- Exe and Elli are the 2 most notable, but you, Scotty Bro, THB, and CP are up there)Lateralus22 wrote:Current Thoughts,
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More scum votes plz, particularly Beefster.
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I now wish to interrogate Lateralus.
Then we get the series of back and forths where Lat presents arguments, and it's TMH who is defending Beef against the case, and not Beef himself, which appears to me that TMH is trying to find flaws in the case to protect a scum buddy.
But specifically, this stands out:
Right after calling Beefster scummy for OMGUSing Lat...themanhimself wrote:
That's what I'm asking, you say Beefster is one of the two scummiest people and then asked my opinion of him. Now I want to know your opinion of him, besides he's one of the two scummiest players. Why do you believe that?Lateralus22 wrote:What case?I'm only asking because Beefster has become a hot topic and I haven't really seen anything of note.I figure you must have a good reason so I'm going to see what you have to say and then make up my mind about the whole thing.
TMH continues to post that Lat's case is flawed and can't concretely peg Beef as scum. Why does it need to be concretely passed though? It's Day 1, so what kind of damning evidence is going make scum concrete? I think the case Lat made is pretty good, at least enough to warrant suspicion on Beef, and Beef's lack of defense with TMH doing all the lifting paints them both badly.
Tuni says it perfectly. It looks like a Chainsaw Defense. Either of these two scumbags can die today.
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Toogeloo (aka Panda) was the one who agreed with Beefster being scum, and didn't like TMH. Katsuki was the one that disagreed. I (Panda) have been trying to remember to put a "-Panda" sign at the end of my posts, but I may have forgotten a few times. My posts are almost always bigger than Katsuki's as well.Fate wrote:CupcakePanda (another reasons why Hydras are overpowered. One head "agreed" with the Beefster push, the other didn')
@ CUPCAKE WHICH ONE AGREED WHICH ONE DIDNT TAG YOUR FUCKING POSTS
Good vote. Don't change it imo.TwoHeadedBoy wrote:VOTE: themanhimself
Scott is next on my list for that nifty little soft defense on Beefster. LL after that.
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I also don't really like Rena.
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Also... I would guess that whoever bussed Fate and Rena likely thought that Rena was scum and Fate was town, so they were likely trying to protect Fate by redirecting things at Rena, like a night kill or something. It may be possible scum tried bussing the two hoping to get Fate to look bad not thinking a scan would return Rena's name, but I doubt the plausibility of that.
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As far as anyone knows, Scott may be the only town role with a vig ability. We could be waiting a long time to get rid of TMH.Fate wrote:TMH is for vigs. Yes please.
@Rena: Any other thoughts than someone is stupid regarding why someone might bus drive you and Fate? If you claim to be town, wouldn't it be arguable that Fate might be scum and Lady Lam might be Insane or Random, but then, why would you call him Town in your opening post as well?- CupcakePanda
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OMG!
LOL@TMH lying through is teeth, probably trying to save Rena if I had to guess. I will absolutely die laughing if TMH is trying to bus Rena and Rena is trying to bus Mafuyu and the entire scum team is just collapsing. Total paranoia that it is becoming too easy at this point.
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Unless you can specifically show me how that is the case, I don't believe it in the least Rena.
Take Players A, B, and C. A and B are Roleblockers and C is a scanner.
-If A blocks B and B blocks C, C gets his scan off, and B is notified he was blocked.
-If A blocks B and B blocks A, both players are notified that they were blocked.
This is how I have always known Roleblocking to work. So unless you can show me otherwise, I don't understand where you would assume Roleblockers have immunity from being blocked.
We also have an interesting precedent here... What happens if two Jailkeepers target themselves? Are they both blocked and protected? *kind of off the track, but I just thought we had an interesting possibility here*
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Who were the claimed Millers again btw, and did we ever determine if they should give us their PDs for the Miller times for the next couple of time frames?
On Mongoose, I am of the opinion that he might be town. We've gutted one scum, we know who another is. It is almost assuredly that scum are trying to lay as low as possible at this point and bandwagon rather than look VI or stick his neck out and talk a lot. I could be wrong, but I just don't think that would be the proper play. My gut tells me we should be concentrating on Mafuyu, Rena, and Robocopter, but more than likely someone who is skating through the game is scum as well.- CupcakePanda
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Parama's post is enough to let Scott off the hook for now. I think any admission to error at all is enough to make the case against Scott having a Day poison with no listed Day poison, renders the case moot.
I do not like a Mongoose lynch. Call it a gut feeling or whatever, but I would prefer either Mafuyu, Elli, or Robocopter. Elli is mostly gut, but I don't buy the "not really paying attention" bit and then coming up with a reasoning to redirect LLD to Rena like that. Elli is also a major hinderance to town, and I just have a bad feeling about him overall.
I JKed TMH which makes it impossible for him to block Rena, and Rena JKed Mafuyu. More than likely either Mafuyu was the night kill and Rena protected it, Fate was the Night Kill and Llamarble stopped it, or Mafuyu sent in the kill and was blocked. Of those situations, Fate being protected and stopping a kill probably makes the most sense, but Mafuyu could have been stopped, and his play is lack luster thus far.
Robocopter's case doesn't really need any explanation as it's been mentioned quite frequently, so I won't go into that one.
Katsuki doesn't like THB, but I have much better feelings about Pie and Fugi, so I have no issues against them currently. So we are of two minds (lol) about that.
In short, I (Panda) really only want to lynch Mafuyu, Robo, or Elli today.
I am also going to claim that I shot TMH. We are currently in Day Vig PD, but I won't specify for how long.
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