Simpsons Mafia (Game Over)

[Lowell]

Lowell here! You lucky bastards. Give me some time for reading.

[Lowell]

From the top:

22- demon proposes character claim [+, gutsy]
20s- most people disagree
44- fonz votes bob for opportunism in attacking 22 [+]
50s-90s- speculating on beaver's identity [-, dont' care]
105- demon leads w/ 5 votes, beavers and bob have 4 each
113- jason keeps talking about hydras [-, not clear why he cares so much]
138- kage votes darla for sheeping [+]
142- DH explains his "trap" [-, no sense to be found here]
145- jason retreats to meta for half his post, parrots others for the other half [--]
147- darla tries to explain [-, meh]
164- diddin votes tragedy for being overly apologetic [+]
174- tragedy leads w/ 4 votes
237- rib shows up to meta the world [-]
245- mea culpa from darla [+, strange... but endearing]
248- jason unimpressed, votes darla
250- hiraki leads w/ 5 votes, darla has 4
268- nero votes jason, notes the idiocy of 145 [+]
272- wraith doesn't like hiraki, but votes darla [-, subtle deflection]
278- hiraki leads w/ 6 votes, darla has 4]
321- hiraki leads w/ 7 votes
350- massive post from assassin [+, decent]
360- assassin votes tragedy, gives full town/scumreads
371- fonz gives reasons for wraith vote finally
377- maritya complains that mafia is hard/takes time [-, bad justification]
389- hiraki returns with megapost
414- steven enters w/ wishy-washy post [-]
428- darla wagon regains steam
429- llama hates darlawagons
444- darla claims VT, groundskeeper willie
456- assassin plays the "if I end up dead" card [-, weak]
450s- many rush to chide, but defend, darla
461- jason not buying it, votes darla
464- hiraki leads w/ 6 votes, darla has 5
473- wraith thinks groundskeeperwillie not plausible for town [-, why?]
481- rib thinks darla has role info on scum
482- steven points out that character names are meaningless [+, yep]
486- wraith accuses town of getting off track [-, yah, because of him]
515- mist appears, demands a summary
519- wraith posts content after harassment; scumlist includes two leading votegetters [-, convenient]
524- mist "sheeps" with vote for hiraki [+, meh, sorta gutsy]
559- darla leads w/ 6 votes, kage and miraki have 5
573- mist does more following
591- bob not clear why ppl left the darla wagon [+, good point]
606- hiraki pushes mist-wagon [-, self-serving]
607- demon votes hiraki
611- deer votes hiraki
613- diddin votes hiraki
621- mariyta votes hiraki
624- hiraki leads w/ 9 votes, kage has 6, darla 5

Scum:

jason

- his metatalk was nonsense, is nonsense, and will continue to be nonsense. At first I chalked it up to newbish enthusiasm trying to carve out a niche ("oh hey, he's the guy who can help us with meta stuff!") but (particularly in ISO) he leans on meta way too much. I think he doesn't want to abandon it because it's a safe way to make attacks without getting his hands dirty.

darla

- not buying the "oh I thought I was at L-1" justification for the nameclaim. She was never close, and I think she thinks her role name will save her. That combined with the mea culpa in 245 make me think she's playing dumb.

wraith

- 272 looks a lot like deflection from hiraki. He says he's suspicious of hiraki, but votes the second wagon instead. Then he does nothing until pressed, at which point he returns only to show his support for the two leading wagons. The only other time he has perked up is when discussion started to turn towards role names.

rib

- he hasn't really done anything particularly helpful. And he metas more than is useful from a town POV.

unvote, vote wraith

Town:

demon

- 22 earned him an early wagon, but he hasn't panicked or gone MIA as some do. He's been relatively active and most of his posts since then are good.

diddin

- Looking back I don't have much from him noted (save 164), but during the read his posts seemed to push everyone back towards scumhunting and away from various other idiocy that springs up.

nero

- 268 was right on the money. He's not particularly active, but his posts have been good.

mist

- I'm a sucker for WIFOM. But I don't believe someone would enter the way he did just before deadline, admit to being a follower, flip-flop several times, and generally make himself lynchbait if he were actually scum. Easy enough to lurk in this game (see: wraith) without worry of lynch.

Some general thoughts:
1) I'm in the camp that says the role names won't mean much. In fact I'm almost sure of it. I'd imagine the mod already has a story at the end of the game explaining why some "good" and "bad" characters ended up where they are.
2)

Hiraki

is fine for a lynch. His latest posts, in particular, look like desperation. If that's the compromise lynch today, I'll jump on board.

[Lowell]

Speaking of relations, if Mist was Town, Scum would be bending over backwards to do everything in their power to fire off a nice mislynch. That's not happening.

So if he were bandwagoned it would become a bad case, and if he's ignored it becomes a good case.

Great way to never lynch anyone.

Lowell, why the wraith vote? We're coming up to a deadline and need to organize ourselves, I doubt a wraith wagon will form in the next day or so.

Kage, Jason and diddin are our top lynches for today right now.

If we have to compromise lynch hiraki then we will. Still we think Kage is a far better alternative.

~Sotty

There's still time. I'll be in again before deadline, no reason I shouldn't put my top choices out there first. Of the ones you mention, I would lynch jason or hiraki, but not kage or diddin.

[Lowell]

I'll vote mist or hiraki if it comes down to it. Talking myself out of the WIFOM case for mist as town, to some degree.

jason and wraith are not town, however, so if someone wants to go ahead and kill them that would be fine by me.

[Lowell]

vote wraith

.

I actually was intrigued at his long post; thought briefly that maybe he was town after all. Then I read it. Unimpressed.

[Lowell]

homer is a cop, but the doc is actually doctor hibbert? Seems to literal to me.

I still dont' see the Nero case at all. As for hiraki, is this a holdover case from yesterday, or is there something new?

[Lowell]

I agree with 931. I see hypocrisy in the hindsight about mist.

fos steven

- 936 bothers me a little. The first paragraph looks too defensive about the jason vote (while remaining conveniently neutral on the claim). Then he focuses on an argument between two other players (framing the debate as about only them) despite confessing that he thinks they're both town. Last, the list of town-players looks suspiciously like a list of aggressive players it might be good to keep off one's back while the list of scum look like lurkers/folks unlikely to raise a stir about a vote. The whole post just reads like defense to me, hoping to buy a few days before having to do anything.

[Lowell]

I like 991. Let's go after one of us non-mist-voters. Even if the claim is bogus, it doesn't really matter b/c it's still plenty of worthy candidates.

unvote, vote steven

I sort of wanted to do this last time, but thought maybe I was just crazy and seeing something that wasn't there. Now I don't think so. All of steven's posts are off-putting for reasons I find difficult to explain, but it's there. Something about 1013 has this unnerving "trying to be part of the team!" feeling that has become his MO (even if, as in this case, he's openly being called out as potential scum). I think he's targetting the low-hanging fruit with tragedy and tvell, and the rest of the post is fluff designed to look like he's actively considering all options (or subtly suggesting lurker-lynches).

Then 90 mins after loving sens' plan, in 1016 he drops the casual "oh, hey, I just thought of something!" to start to undermine it-- but of course not to aggressively.

[Lowell]

Has nacho's lurking been that bad, really, that it's the crux of the case against him? Meh, I don't see it.

unvote, vote tragedy

, a much much better wagon.

[Lowell]

Tradegy's behavior since the wagon started on her looks bad, particularly her claim on the last page. The "oh well, GL you guys are lynching a townie" is never pro-town either. Usually scum trying to save face at the last minute rather than town really trying to help.

To answer wraith's question re: tragedy, I don't like the way tragedy has been subtly breadcrumbing names throughout the game (check her bolded font in ISO). I was content to let it go for awhile, but now I'm convinced it's deliberate. With already too many people out there saying "uh, derp, let's only lynch someone who claims a scummy-sounding character," someone deliberately and repeatedly testing the waters with names more than scumhunting rings alarm bells with me.

[Lowell]

vote bobs

Missed a whole cycle there. Will catch up.

[Lowell]

vote wraith

I'm maggie, VT. Fine with the logic, prefer Lowell last.

[Lowell]

unvote

sorry, wasn't paying attention.

[Lowell]

So, mariyta is non-town is what I'm getting out of all that.