A Gentleman's Game of Guile, Subterfuge, and Intrigue (Fin)
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Greetings, friends and comrades. I would like to draw Sir Hoppster's visage to your attention. Not only is he improperly attired--that cravat, if that is what it is, is simply ghastly--but he is wielding a firearm while expressing mirth in a most indecorous fashion. Thus, I feel it necessary to register aVote: Hoppster.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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If I may interject for a moment here, gentlemen: while vezok has, in the past, shown himself to lack the uprightness and character of a gentleman, is it not premature to discuss ejecting him before he has even said anything substantial? Should we not allow him an opportunity to prove himself? In my experience, a true gentleman does not allow himself to be so firmly committed to such a policy except in the most extreme of cases.
On another note, I could not help but note imaginality's noncommittal attempts to sway suspicion from Twisted. While I normally applaud gentlemen being true to their fellows, in this case it caused me to raise my eyebrows in a distinct manner.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Twisted is a most interesting gentleman indeed. Astronomical considerations aside, the little tiff between you and he has been most interesting. While his reservations on a vezok vote seem eminently reasonable (and, indeed, his views are shared by myself), I find myself somewhat concerned with his refusal to attempt to understand or question your votes, whether on himself or another. However, your stated policy in regards to vezok is no less concerning; indeed, while TheLonging merely introduced the subject with an accompanying pamphlet of reading material, your vote to eject him came with reams and reams of papers which, however, covered only one incident. Dastardly as his actions undoubtedly were, this strikes me with a certain overeagerness. It troubles me. While I will wait with bated breath to see how this all plays out in future, I will actually tread off the beaten path a wee bit andUnvotein order toVote: imaginality. His defense of Twisted nags at me, and I must have the courage of my convictions.
Sir imaginality:Why did you feel it necessary to point out that Twisted had not been alone in his frivolity?Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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I beseech you, look over your posting again.imaginality wrote:
To point out that other players had made posts of similar lightness to Twistedspoon's is not to sway suspicion from him but rather to ensure that that particular point is not given undue weight. I was wary of Hoppster's reasons for focusing on one such person if several others could be accused of the same sin.in post 56 the honorable Apokalyptika further wrote:On another note, I could not help but note imaginality's noncommittal attempts to sway suspicion from Twisted. While I normally applaud gentlemen being true to their fellows, in this case it caused me to raise my eyebrows in a distinct manner.
Now, what is a far better point against the gentleman in question (Twistedspoon) is that he has tangled himself up in his words while attempting to justify his lack of curiosity about Hoppster's explicitly non-random vote. The feebleness and contradictory nature of his explanation is of genuine import, and I await his answer to my question above (in post 59) with great interest.
The sentence I have here emphasized is the main focus of my suspicion. Not only do you make rash assumptions regarding the intentions of Sir Hoppster (there is a saying regarding the forming of assumptions, but it is far too crass to mention here) but you also specifically invoke the name of another, namely StrangerCoug. This strikes me as being a tad too emphatic for refuting the basis of a case that, at that time, had not been fully explained by Sir Hoppster.imaginality wrote:The reading material you gentleman have seen fit to share with us certainly elucidates the potential agonies we may all suffer if we allow vezokpiraka to remain part of our gathering.
Unvote; vote: vezokpiraka
Is Twistedspoon villainous in your eyes, Hoppster, for his preference for discussing celestial matters and other such frippery rather than actively scumhunting?If so, I would caution that the hour is still early and others amongst us (e.g. StrangerCoug) have been no more committed to genuinely scumhunting as yet.Or is there another reason for suspicion to be cast on Twistedspoon in particular?Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Sir imaginality's absence deeply saddens my heart. When you return, my good man, would you care to respond to the point I brought up?
Sir Caboose, why did my suggestion as regards Sir Vezok cause such mirth? It seemed an eminently serious and reasonable position to me. As a matter of fact, Sir Longing's continued pressure on Sir vezok, especially when combined with a reasonable (if somewhat linguistically jarring) entrance into proceedings, fills me with caution. (As an aside, Sir Caboose, I would request you not to refer to me as Lady. After all, we are almost all noble gentlemen here, and it would be most crass for one gentleman to speculate upon the contents of another gentleman's trousers.)Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Welcome to the lodge, Sir DemonHybrid! I could only wish it were in happier circumstances, in which you were not voting for myself. I fear you have erroneously judged me as defending Sir Vezok. In actuality, I have no particular opinion of the gentleman as of yet. As I stated before, I have a most strong personal opposition to the policy of ejecting lodge members based on factors other than their gentlemanliness or lack thereof, unless there is an exceedingly strong reason to do so. I do not believe that a necessarily strong reason exists, so I object to this policy.
TheLonging continues to draw suspicion to himself by insisting on adherence to this daft policy; at least others have made tentative steps towards a body of evidence against him. Bearing no malice towards Sir kpaca, I must still note that thus far he has spoken less of serious subjects than Sir vezok. However, I see nobody measuring his neck for a hempen necktie.
imaginality's response has done much to allay my suspicions. krob, I must request that you clarify the last sentence you uttered. I understand it to mean that, since gentlemen do not often make rash statements, you maintain that you were not being weak but rather adhering to the standards of high breeding. Am I correct in my understanding?
In summary, I shallUnvoteandVote: TheLonging.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Sir Longing, let me make myself abundantly clear.
By presenting your argument against Sir Vezok as a matter of policy, you escape blame if it turns out you have misjudged him. This cowardly ducking of responsibility is what I would expect from a common rogue.
Sir Vezok, I must say that I see no fathomable reason that your logic should be hidden from the company. Out with it, man!Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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But, sir, your very last post read
TheLonging wrote:vezokpiraka wrote:Why d'you cons'er dat I won' provide contn't.
Because you're vezok?
Which implies that you still hold the policy valid.
I am pleased that you have taken a firm stance, however. I now await Sir Vezok's next contribution to these proceedings.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Sir vezok, this is not acceptable. Such a call to action as you made is a transparent attempt to appear to contribute, while in actuality you accomplish nothing. I would appreciate seeing thoughts on more people in this game, as well as entertaining more of a dialogue with kr0b (which you should be eager to do, as you claim suspicion of him). There is no reason why a gentleman should refrain from following leads and presenting reads, so I shallUvoteandVote: Sir Vezok.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Twistedspoon wrote:kpaca wrote:
I must say that I amappalledat the desires for a policy lynch,
kpaca wrote:
However, I may be a fan of lynching vezokpiraka.My previous experience....
If that's not why you policy lynch, then I don't know what is
I like this wagon
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Far be it from me to interfere with a discussion between two gentlemen, but the whole quote was
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However, I may be a fan of lynching vezokpiraka. My previous experience with him confirms the fact that he is quite odd in his mannerisms, so I'm not exactly put off by that. However, vezok, IF YOU DO NOT STOP RPing I WILL VOTE YOU. Additionally, I am not at all a fan of his "reasons" for voting Krob. It is completely off base and vezoks abilities to actually gauge a reaction are less than zero, and I'm pretty sure he knows that.
As you see, he cites previous experience as a reason against policy lynching. Tell me, o Duke of Spoon, why did you feel the need to misrepresent Sir kpaca in such a dastardly manner?
Also, I may be V/LA for the next couple of days.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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kpaca wrote:
However, I may be a fan of lynching vezokpiraka.My previous experience with him confirms the fact that he is quite odd in his mannerisms, so I'm not exactly put off by that.However, vezok, IF YOU DO NOT STOP RPing I WILL VOTE YOU. Additionally, I am not at all a fan of his "reasons" for voting Krob. It is completely off base and vezoks abilities to actually gauge a reaction are less than zero, and I'm pretty sure he knows that.
I must also say that I'm not at all a fan of strangercoug, but would like to let my feelings on that matter mature a bit more before moving forward with such a thing.
At the moment I'm fine not voting at all, at least for a little while.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Good heavens. I feel the need toUnvoteandVote: Sir Twistedspoonwith all due alacrity. Not only has he misrepresented other members of the company and changed his reasoning for his vote many times (first he votes kpaca for contradicting himself, then for not wanting a policy lynch?), but he refuses to answer questions posed to him. In addition, I have happened to see him posting as scum elsewhere (the game is ongoing, but both Sir Twisted and myself are deceased) and, while I have not yet done a complete meta check, his posting styleis strikingly similar.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Sir Caboose, I fear that you have been inattentive. I have repeatedly said that a policy lynch is an excellent place for a scoundrel to place his vote without repercussions. In addition, the votes I have placed were for Sir Hoppster (for mere whimsical reasons), Sir imaginality (for what I believed to be an overenthusiastic defense), Sir Longing (for promoting a policy lynch), Sir Vezok (for lack of contribution) and now Sir Twisted, for being 10 types of scummy. Sir imaginality was not a popular vote, and neither was Sir Longing. Sir Vezok's popularity was largely due to the aforementioned policy voting, and Sir Twisted's popularity is because others have seen the merit behind voting him.Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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Good sirs, the game I was talking about was Open 290, which is now finished. Upon reading other games that Sir Twisted has participated in, Mini 1130 in particular, I find my meta case somewhat weakened. While I did observe him posting more fluff and one-liners as scum, he does that as town a fair bit as well. However, my other points against him still stand.
TheLonging: It is impolite to keep secrets in company. What additional reasons do you have for finding Sir Twisted scummy?Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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I have just been poring over the game in order that my mind should not be solely fixated on the uniquely scummy Duke of Spoon. One thing that jumped out at me upon a careful reread is the extreme camaraderie that Sir imaginality seems to feel towards me. When I voted him, he treated me with the height of courtesy and friendship, and from then on, he took every opportunity to praise me (mainly for my pressure on the Duke of Spoon). While I certainly appreciate these kind words--and, indeed, I wish that more gentlemen so accurately divined my incisive intellect and sparkling wit--I cannot help but note that it seems, to me, somewhat excessive. Gentlemen, your thoughts?Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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I saw quite a few gentlemen who took him seriously. TheLonging claimed he was serious. Also, from reading other games and generally browsing the site, I can easily believe that a player would seriously try to policy-lynch vezok. Do you think it's honestly better, information-wise, that everyone should sheep a vezok policy lynch?
Er, what ho, my good man! Fancy a game of cricket?Witness the man who raves at the wall- Apokalyptika
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