A Gentleman's Game of Guile, Subterfuge, and Intrigue (Fin)

[Twistedspoon]

Salutations my Chivalrous Acquaintances

Many moons I have been awake in cumbersome waiting for this flight of fancy

In sterling fashion I shall begin our tabernacle in the eclectic voting stage (EVS)

Hoppster

due to his fundamentally garrulous nature

Cherrio, Chin-Chin and all that

- Lord Twisted of the Spoon

[Twistedspoon]

Hoppster

By Jove, It appears, I have misplaced my tags for the democratic process

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

Carry on, my Spiffing companions of the Landed Gentry

[Twistedspoon]

I'm V/La for this weekend. Expect me to come by later.

what tongue is this?

[Twistedspoon]

Touché

However I must confess that I have never subjected my visionary receptors to Ian Flemming's masterpiece. However after Punctilously davenporting my maudlin senses to induct such serendipities I can Conface the Chartreuseables

[Twistedspoon]

one notices it to be a Bowler Hat,

but on the contrary, My headpiece is a specimen of the Panama hat family after an excursion of some discountable folly in the Senderos Gulf of El Salvador; Tierra Del Fuego

Now I shall partake in the Most gentlemanly pastime of watching Jeeves and Wooster Re-runs before commencing my Bi-annual Fox hunting scallywaggery

pip-pip

[Twistedspoon]

I would also like to draw the atteNtion of my most learned acQuaintances to his improper, irrEgular and most erratic use of capitiliSation! Tell me, iS this Behaviour you would expeCt of a proper gentleMen? I thought not!

fixeth that for thou

[Twistedspoon]

I can not think of a better more pronounced way to say the word "vote" and as such I shall use it.

Electoral formality?

[Twistedspoon]

StrangerCoug, the same reason could be used to vote for Twistedspoon, a villain who revels in his improper capitilisation. I do ask that you move your vote to Twistedspoon this instant. Do not make me write a letter of protest.

Hark

The knave Hoppster is a tunnelling vagabond and must be hounded from this Gentry toot sweet

[Twistedspoon]

Sir Twistedspoon's obvious error in the spelling of the French phrase "tuit de suite" amuses me.

Of course. My jaunt of folly was a mere erroneous occurrence

[Twistedspoon]

Why yes, he does many of the unpleasant "activities" you so mention but in addition to that, he has a nasty habit of claiming roles at the most improper times and acting like a much lower class savage, being the town idiot and what not. A game I have played with him with Mr. Flay as the overseer was very much so proof of this.

The sole weight I see on the shoulders is his improper diction thus far

[Twistedspoon]

instead my friends let us look at thy potential criminals.

Whom might you suggest, my fine, learned Gentryman?

Could It be the Knavish sprite Hoppster?

[Twistedspoon]

Is Hoppster a smart fellow?

Is the Sun cold?

[Twistedspoon]

Source B: After consulting my most learned colleague I have concluded that, accurately speaking (and of course we wouldn't want to speak inaccurately where possible), that the Sun is neither hot nor cold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

second paragraph, line number 5

[Twistedspoon]

No >_>

second paragraph, line 5

"surface temperature of approximately 5778 K (5505 °C)"

[Twistedspoon]

5505 ^oC = hot

The sun burns hydrogen and nuclear fusion is an exothermic reaction

The sun being hot is infalliable

[Twistedspoon]

Or is there another reason for suspicion to be cast on Twistedspoon in particular?

Beyond Hoppster's capitalisation argument and poor distinguation of headgear I'm interested in Sir Hoppster's answer to this conundrum

[Twistedspoon]

He also did not bat a single eyelid at me making a non-random vote upon himself (and also then confirming my vote). Villainous, I tell you!

On the contrary, my eyelids were most exercised

Yet your random vote must be eclectic inherently since I perceive your vote as a (how do you say this) omgoose? and there is no evidence beyond an eclectic vote

The vezok chariot? I will reserve Judgement until the squire in question posts, thankyou

[Twistedspoon]

My learned friend, I must confess I have not read the literature you have posted extensively

Alas, do not despair

I have played 2 prior games with the vagabond and have noticed some odd attributes to the character (Rolefishing being the one I remember most). If we do not acquire another stagecoach (wagon for future reference) to whisk us from the Ecletic Voting Stage (RVS for future reference) in due then I shall gladly embark upon the vezok stagecoach.

[Twistedspoon]

Absolute balderdash!

Even If I were to vote Vezok now I would only be accused of sheeping.

Despite what I do I am not clear to hoppster ¬_¬
hark

As for your nonsensical voting patterns, no not expect me to understand them or question them. I trust you make your votes in good judgement even if they are wrong, thus it would be foolish to argue against a premediated decision

As for vezok, I have already acknowledged the chariot, but I have more to worry about in the knave of Hoppster and how he expects me to press him on every action he makes

Such poppycock

[Twistedspoon]

Even If I were to vote Vezok now

1)Have you been considering casting your vote upon him?

As for your nonsensical voting patterns, no not expect me to understand them or question them. I trust you make your votes in good judgement even if they are wrong

2)I question your good faith in me, which seems largely unjustified.

1) Naturally, I consider every direction my play could take. The conclusion I came to was that although a Vezok stagecoach seems tempting, his reactions would be much more succulent and it does seem most ungentlemanly to wagon a player who has hardly posted yet

2) You have tried to stagecoach me over the smallest of points such as 'why didn't you press the point on my votes' My primary and premature answer to this is why should I, but my preferred answer Is that I believed your vote confirmation to me a mere varitaion of the eclectic voting stage to try and muster a stagecoach upon one's self. Thus I believed the reasoning to be random and there was no point pressing spontaniosities.

[Twistedspoon]

1) yes, but it wasn't the prime reason. Far from it. As apok says, It would have been ungentlemanly to be rid of vezok before he posts content

2) Your votes don't make perfect sense to me at first glance, but that is because I, sadly, am not you. I assume that your votes make perfect sense to yourself of course

[Twistedspoon]

Votecount 1.1

Sir Hoppster

(3)

:

Twistedspoon, Caboose, Apokalyptika

StrangerCoug

(0)

:

imaginality

Twistedspoon

(2)

:

Sir Hoppster

, Sir Hoppster, StrangerCoug

imaginality

(0)

:

StrangerCoug

vezokpiraka

(2)

:

TheLonging,

Sir Hoppster

, imaginality

Not Voting

(6)

:

kr0b, Feysal, GMan, inHimShallBe, kpaca, vezokpiraka

With 13 remaining it shall require

7

to lynch the knave.

The records shall show a complete history of the day's votes, including all possible repetition of votes by one guest upon another.

Red

signifies a guest at either two or one vote from execution.

Multiple guests have not yet spoken up regarding these matters, which I suspect is due to my own error in failing to send notification of the beginning of the day's proceeding to said guests. It shall be done, and participation henceforth shall be expected. Good day.

By Jove, why does Sir Hoppster get a title, But not Myself

[Twistedspoon]

bid your houseservants salutations from myself and my butler, Hoppster

[Twistedspoon]

*faints and monocle shatters*

[Twistedspoon]

Much gratitude to you sir Him, but what could be the source if this bounteous respect other than my dashing good looks and spiffing smoking Jacket?

[Twistedspoon]

I commend you, Duke (promotion) Him

What are your thoughts on the vagabond known as Hoppster and the accelerating chariot of vezok?

[Twistedspoon]

Why do you find Spoon to be such a trustworthy fellow?

The Duke of Spoon is my title good Sir

[Twistedspoon]

Twistedspoon, do you believe inHim's good opinion of you to be one completely justified?

Of course

were you myself (and believe me, that is a real privelage) you would also agree that I merited trust.

InHim's trust in myself is a pleasant surprise and I look forward to 'hunting' vagabonds and scallywags with his assistance along with the rest of the town

[Twistedspoon]

any other observations from your recap Baron Paca?

[Twistedspoon]

Thus I believed the reasoning to be random

Even despite this?

This vote is not one that I have cast in a random manner.

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how can this be as you have accredited both the knave hoppster and myself to the post 55?

But to answer you question, yes even despite hoppster's statement to the contrary did I believe his vote to of a random nature. Methinks the supposed declaration of it being a serious ballot was to apply pressure to myself. After all, there was no non-random reason for Hoppster to do so anyways.

The Baron Imagainality's exploitations of linguistics would have me to follow his stagecoach on sir Kr0b were it not for my intestinal (gut) feelings on sir Hoppster.

[Twistedspoon]

your new monocle is most spiffing, Sir Him

[Twistedspoon]

Real post coming tomorrow.

Come now, Sir Hoppster

Are you not aware that tommorow is the Royal Wedding of the century?

Surely you will be travelling to London to pay Homage to the Monarch lineage :p

[Twistedspoon]

why is it nonsensical to have a gut scum read on hoppster?

[Twistedspoon]

yeah, I like this vote

one who sits on fences receives many splinters
and backpeddaling can cause cramp too

VOTE: kpaca

[Twistedspoon]

confound myself, I do apologise old chum

[Twistedspoon]

I must say that I am

appalled

at the desires for a policy lynch,

However, I may be a fan of lynching vezokpiraka.

My previous experience....

If that's not why you policy lynch, then I don't know what is

I like this wagon

join me

[Twistedspoon]

I wasn't misrepresenting him

he says he is against a policy lynch

and then says he'd be for lynching vezok due to past experience

when a policy lynch is ENTIRELY for the reason of past experience.. What else is a policy lynch for?

uh old bean

[Twistedspoon]

answers in bold

Twistedspoon, I would much appreciate it if you answered these outstanding points which you appear to have swept under the rug in an act of senility or wickedness.

After all, there was no non-random reason for Hoppster to do so anyways.

What nonsense is this also?

well there was nothing beyond randomness for your vote. You said something about a top hat. 'twas random

I find it most peculiar that he completely ignored my vote change to vezok

Why does this have no merit?

Why pecuilar? It was your vote? Why should I have to comment on each of your vote changes?

why is it nonsensical to have a gut scum read on hoppster?

That is not my objection. It is to your refusal to acknowledge my perfectly sound reasons for my non-random vote on yourself and also your refusal to hunt for these vile fellows over leaving your vote on me based on a hunch.

I am also most amused how Twistedspoon has finally found something worth following over his gut read of myself. What makes this suddenly more important when you were perfectly happy to keep your vote on me despite being suspicious of kr0b, I must ask

Kpaca I have a gut read of scum on too, and it is smaller than the one I have for you. However I didn't like kpaca's last post so voted for him

[Twistedspoon]

how experienced is twestedspoon?

twestedspoon has played for many moons since January 3rd

Currently, I'm in 11 games right now, and I've been at this rate for a while. I'd say I've played around 20 or so games

[Twistedspoon]

of course I know what I'm doing

what you're doing though is fencesitting (until now) and then voting me purely on experience which amuses me since you said you were against Policy lynches; exactly what you're doing now but with experience, not prior games as the policy

[Twistedspoon]

In short, you would have been better off just screaming OMGUS.

'OMGUS'

[Twistedspoon]

?

the only case on me is that I have voted you for saying you disapprove of a policy lynch before trying to both PL myself and vezok

check

[Twistedspoon]

furthermore, I note how your activity has shot up when I suspected you

scumtell in my book

[Twistedspoon]

unvote
vote TS

In cthulu speed mafia you were scum. You played somehow like here.
Also in Execution you were town and proclaimed every time someone suspected you that you are town.

You are playing like in Cthulu mafia here.

firstly, how has my cuthulu play been anything like in this game? I lurked and fakeclaimed in that game. Neither of which I am doing here

secondly what on earth do you mean by proclaimed? Also, I was scum in that game, not town. My playstyle in that game was vastly dissimilar too.

so how am i playing like I did in cuthulu? In the entire cuthulu game I made 23 posts. I'm already on 43 in this game, day 1

How has my play been similar to the cuthulu one?

[Twistedspoon]

Vezok is using the flimsiest of excuses to ride my wagon. My play in those games is far from identical than with this one

Appendage of Suspicion: Vezok

[Twistedspoon]

Also sorry for the confusion. I meant {REDACTED} not Execution.

?

mod told myself off for mentioning {REDACTED} and were I not in danger of a warning as you probably are now, I would easily counter that

[Twistedspoon]

Also, how by Jove has my play been similar to that of Cuthulu?

[Twistedspoon]

However, I believe subsequent explanations have been enough to discredit Twisted's accusations.

what subsequent accusations might these be?

Vezok's unfounded cuthulu rambling conjecture balderdash?

[Twistedspoon]

how have I hidden in the shadows?

I have the most posts in this thread

that's hardly hiding in shadows

[Twistedspoon]

Vezok has been at the brandy or is being economical with the truth

both would merit suspicion

[Twistedspoon]

And I didn't mention vezok. Partly because I think he is talking crap.

good heavens, sir, but one's language has displaced a large amount of Twinings from my mouth

[Twistedspoon]

how have I hidden in the shadows?

I have the most posts in this thread

that's hardly hiding in shadows

this

[Twistedspoon]

And I didn't mention vezok. Partly because I think he is talking crap.

good heavens, sir, but one's language has displaced a large amount of Twinings from my mouth

You should defend about that not post fluff. That just makes me happier with my vote. You are cocky as scum and don't defend. Just like here.

hey

I didn't defend myself in that game you mentioned and I was town in that one; what's up with that :/

kinda the opposite; I defend as scum obviously

[Twistedspoon]

If you continue to scrape the bottom of the barrel for reasons you'll get splinters 'neath your nails

srsly, all you have is meta (and incorrect at that)

[Twistedspoon]

how have I hidden in the shadows?

I have the most posts in this thread

that's hardly hiding in shadows

this

You should defend about that not post fluff.

Please stop misrepresenting people, Twistedspoon.

vezok said I was lurking

I refuted that

how on earth is that misrepresenting?

[Twistedspoon]

how have I hidden in the shadows?

I have the most posts in this thread

that's hardly hiding in shadows

I'll be back later to count how much of this is fluff

fluff or not, it's hardly 'hiding in the shadows' whatever that means

[Twistedspoon]

well if I'm posting I'm hardly hiding in the shadows as vezok puts it. He should've been clearer. I was refuting lurking, not active lurking (which I would like to refute, but is harder to do so)

and not all of my posts have been fluff, you only chose the fluffiest mr. selective
notice how in each game you tunnel on me, hoppster, I flip town?

lurking =/= active lurking, so why bring all that up?

[Twistedspoon]

no

bad things happen to me when I answer your posts

they're all traps D:

example:

hoppster votes me at start

then hoppster takes his vote off of me in post 39 and sticks it on vezok before placing it back on me after 1 post in which I only give a link to wikipedia

you say

kr0b, I most graciously invite you to join TheLonging's most excellent wagon on vezokpiraka.

and then vote vezok

I post

Source B: After consulting my most learned colleague I have concluded that, accurately speaking (and of course we wouldn't want to speak inaccurately where possible), that the Sun is neither hot nor cold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun

second paragraph, line number 5

which is completely irrelevant to the game and is just about the sun

then somehow after that you STRAIGHT AFTER come up with

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Twistedspoon

This vote is not one that I have cast in a random manner. Discuss.

backpeddal much?

not that you explain your vote at all

you then say how I didn't comment on your vote switch to vezok. Well why should I have? I'd already given my thoughts on vezok. And had I commented for some bizzare reason you'd call it scum paranoia for commenting on a vote being taken off of me

your full of tricks and tunnel on me all the time whilst defending the players you know are town or are your buddies since you're mafioso. That way you get everyone against me

well not again

VOTE:

Sir

hoppster

[Twistedspoon]

It's not backpedalling, BECAUSE I HAD A REASON.

no you didn't

you backpeddaled because you were scum obv

If you're gambiting you should at least breadcrumb it in advance

your full of tricks and tunnel on me all the time whilst defending the players you know are town or are your buddies since you're mafioso. That way you get everyone against me

Okay José. Tell me then, is kpaca my buddy? Is vezok my buddy?

stop deflecting. I'll cross that bridge when I get to it but for now methinks you're mafia pushing an easy lynch in myself
Asking me who your buddy is will only get me to appear scummier should I be wrong about said buddy or even right, but another player has them as a town read

VOTE:

Sir

Hoppster

[Twistedspoon]

Dearie me, what have we here? In what way am I deflecting? It is perfectly relevant to the point you were making.

no it wasn't. My beginners guide to mafia says it's unwise to try and guess the scumteam D1

It says; I quote

Do not fool yourself into thinking you can call the scumteam, especially before anyone has flipped scum. Don't bother with trying to draw connections between players until one of them is dead. It's tempting! but futile.

so yeah, another trap of yours, trying to get me to guess the scumteam

You have ignored this

yeah, and I've explained why I don't like your questions in general. Traps like the last one

'Twas not a gambit in any way, shape, or form. I have just provided a reason. Tell me why that reason is inadequate.

you provided a reason which you 'concealed' at the time; thus a gambit of sorts. If not a gambit in your book, then you should have still breadcrumbed it to stop it appearing like backpeddaling

for me to believe you had this reason is a far stretch

And what makes you think yourself to be an easy lynch?

because you know how to annoy me

[Twistedspoon]

is this an attitude you will adopt with all your scum-reads?

no, just you

and you ignored the bit about how asking me who your buddies were is a silly question

for what reason did you not discuss my vote despite my prompting to do so?

your 10 second vezok vote?
1) you didn't give me the chance. 1 post later you had it back
2) why should I discuss every vote change you make? I assumed you wanted in on the PL of vezok. Little did I know that you'd expect me to somehow come up with a thesis on one of your more discreet actions. It's not like you even asked me what I thought of your vote at the time :/

[Twistedspoon]

I knew this would happen

'Tis the devilish works of Sir Hoppster

make sure you lynch him after myself before he does the same to another townie :0

[Twistedspoon]

So where shall I place my vote in the meantime? Don't want to be seen to chickening out by not voting... I know!

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

so you have no other scummy suspects?

I am curious to hear who else you suspect, Hoppster, lest you become tunnelled on one case at the expense of others. Surely you do not feel TwistedSpoon is the sole villain amongst us?

This so much

[Twistedspoon]

So where shall I place my vote in the meantime? Don't want to be seen to chickening out by not voting... I know!

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

so you have no other scummy suspects?

I am curious to hear who else you suspect, Hoppster, lest you become tunnelled on one case at the expense of others. Surely you do not feel TwistedSpoon is the sole villain amongst us?

This so much

[Twistedspoon]

So where shall I place my vote in the meantime? Don't want to be seen to chickening out by not voting... I know!

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

so you have no other scummy suspects?

I am curious to hear who else you suspect, Hoppster, lest you become tunnelled on one case at the expense of others. Surely you do not feel TwistedSpoon is the sole villain amongst us?

This so much

[Twistedspoon]

So where shall I place my vote in the meantime? Don't want to be seen to chickening out by not voting... I know!

VOTE: Sir Hoppster

so you have no other scummy suspects?

I am curious to hear who else you suspect, Hoppster, lest you become tunnelled on one case at the expense of others. Surely you do not feel TwistedSpoon is the sole villain amongst us?

This so much

[Twistedspoon]

so I asummue you find no-one scummy but myself?
or do you just not want to make enemies?

I will however answer your question with a question: who do you think I should be suspicious of and why?

yourself, because you're mafioso, obv

Twistedspoon, I beseech of you to not try and act like you're smart just because you can parrot imaginality

I was reinforcing a point

how was I acting like I was smart?
You play the smart self-centered chap in this game

[Twistedspoon]

I answered it.

I think TS is scummy because of the fluff he is posting. That is my position on him.

you've been posting fluff, does that amke you scum?

seriously, you've said the same thing about myself posting fluff in your last

all you ever mention is fluff

I find it most peculiar to see Imaginality picking and choosing which posts he perceives as "fluff". Maybe the good sir needs to lay off of his whiskey.

You try to dismiss attention on you and fence sit a lot and hide in the shadows.

You should defend about that not post fluff.

Just like here.

I will stick to TS because I think the fluff posting is consistent with his scum game while hoppster does stupid shit like this sometimes.

I think TS is scummy because of the fluff he is posting

CAN YOU SAY ANYTHING OTHER THAN FLUFF?

[Twistedspoon]

I will however answer your question with a question: who do you think I should be suspicious of and why?

yourself, because you're mafioso, obv

So you're unwilling to

explicitly state

people you're suspicious in response to a question, and yet you're attacking me for this reason? Or are you deliberately being hypocritical?

And what happened to "I'MA GONNA IGNORE HOPPSTER 'COS HE'S SCUM AND HE'S TRAPPING ME HERP DERP"?

you should decide your scumsuspects yourself

why should I?

[Twistedspoon]

furthermore, I note how your activity has shot up when I suspected you

scumtell in my book

This, my good sir, is a reach.

the conclusion, maybe, but the observation genuine

[Twistedspoon]

Feysal and InHim

not voting I see. Why might this be?

[Twistedspoon]

I am somewhat amused by Sir Hoppster choosing to vote himself. Every time I've seen that happen someone has pointed out that self-voting is a useful ploy for mafia to gather sympathy

as I thought too

[Twistedspoon]

the part I quoted was the part I agree with

If anyone wants to read more of feysal, they are welcome to do so

I didn't post the second part, because that was not the part I agreed with, obv

[Twistedspoon]

@hopp: my aim wasn't to misrepresent him

in fact I wasn't representing him at all

I just chose a nice sentence I agreed with and said I agreed with it
I don't have to agree with his whole post do I?

[Twistedspoon]

Why did you say you agree with one sentence? That's like 2 types of fluff and active lurking.

I quite liked the sentence :0

anyways, why don't you just ask hoppster why he self-voted

no-one seems to have done so :/

[Twistedspoon]

So why did you not bring this up before if you thought it, rather than waiting for somebody to say it so that you could parrot it?

[/size]
[/quote]
I thought I voiced my dissatifaction at your self-vote already :/

does it matter when I said it?

[Twistedspoon]

Why did you say you agree with one sentence? That's like 2 types of fluff and active lurking.

I quite liked the sentence :0

anyways, why don't you just ask hoppster why he self-voted

no-one seems to have done so :/

LOL WHY DON'T YOU

Ahem, I mean, what utter foolishness I do see here. For you are getting others to do the dirty work for you, it would appear?

well when i saidd that I was asking you in a way :p

so why did you if you need it as plain as that

[Twistedspoon]

If you'll forgive me, I'll withold that until we've heard back from everybody (although it's fairly guessable).

What do you think of Caboose?

it's fairly guessable why you voted for yourself?

hardly to me unless it's a mafia empathy ploy

Caboose? Caboose asks a lot of Questions and provides analysis. The Quality is evident in the ISO despite the quantity
A top-half town read for me

[Twistedspoon]

basically he said you hadn't persuade him

considering you haven't persuaded me that I'm scum either, I see no problem with it

[Twistedspoon]

above message was in reply to hoppster's last post

[Twistedspoon]

basically he said you hadn't persuade him

considering you haven't persuaded me that I'm scum either, I see no problem with it

So you don't think it's worth commenting on at all?

not myself, but what conclusion have you made from it regarding caboose's alignment compadré?

[Twistedspoon]

I would like our opinions of Twistedspoon, Esq.

at your service comradé

[Twistedspoon]

From the top three candidates for lynch I support the TS wagon and the Kr0b wagon.

Obviously I don't support the wagon on myself.

explain why you supposrt a krob lynch

[Twistedspoon]

whom I feel has had ample time in his posts to get content in and convince me that he is town.

I'm quite sure the burden of proof was on your shoulders, not mine

[Twistedspoon]

a) Which of {kr0b, vezok, Twistedspoon} do you support a lynch on?
b) Do you feel a lynch of myself (Sir Hoppster) is still viable?

a) not myself. Not vezok, as vezok plays this Disillusionary even as town, and not kr0b because I've yet to see a groundbreaking case on him. My gut says he's more likely town than scum, but of the 3 and if i had to choose, I'd say kr0b because I have a stronger town read on vezok and myself than kr0b
b) certainly so

[Twistedspoon]

I wasn't dodging you questions ¬_¬

the previous post would have been made anyways. you gave me ~1 min to answer them

give me a break

[Twistedspoon]

From the top three candidates for lynch I support the TS wagon and the Kr0b wagon.

Obviously I don't support the wagon on myself.

explain why you supposrt a krob lynch

Because I think he is likely scum?

yah, but why

[Twistedspoon]

a) Which of {kr0b, vezok, Twistedspoon} do you support a lynch on?
b) Do you feel a lynch of myself (Sir Hoppster) is still viable?

a) not myself. Not vezok, as vezok plays this Disillusionary even as town, and not kr0b because I've yet to see a groundbreaking case on him. My gut says he's more likely town than scum, but of the 3 and if i had to choose, I'd say kr0b because I have a stronger town read on vezok and myself than kr0b
b) certainly so

Regarding (b), then why did you not put this (the Sir Hoppster wagon) forward as an alternative with the recent 'WUT 5 DAYS LEFT ZOMG' above?

I have supported your wagon for a long time. I never thought it neccessary to remind everyone that I do.

Why do you only have a town

read

on yourself?

I don't. Imaginality, SC and feysal are strong town reads of ine

Why are you not supportive of a kr0b lynch due to lack of a groundbreaking case on him yet you want me lynched despite a lack of a groundbreaking case on myself?

I don't see the kr0b case. But I know that my gut says you're the best lynch. Also, as long as you're alive you'll try to mislynch a townie in myself

Also, what do you make of DemonHybrid's speculation of your 'motivation'?

remind me

P-Edit: So why did you press submit when you weren't finished?

(Rhetorical.)

Cause I wanted to address one part first

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Response to this post (above, but linked for ISO purposes):

Is your town-read on SC gut?

without having to read back, yes

And lynching me because I want to lynch you - how is this not OMGUS? Or is it OMGUS?

both. If it was another player you were targeting who I knew was a confirmed townie I would suspect you for the same reason. However it just so happens to be myself, so it looks like omgus I guess

DemonHybrid's post here:

What is the motivation behind TS posting the way he is? He's prodding for information. It should read off as very town. He's not ignoring information or misrepping people.

well I agree that I'm not misrepping people etc.
so what's the problem?

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care to answer my question and say why you find kr0b scummy, vezok?

also, answering in bold isn't annoying. They're right underneath the questions and the boldness indicates the parts that are mine

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Response to this post:

So, essentially, it is OMGUS? So why are you not attacking TheLonging or other people who have voted you etc.?

I'll cross that bridge when I get to it. You've been pushing me harder than longing anyways

Also, if you'd actually read DemonHybrid's post you'd know what I meant. He says you're prodding for information. Has this been your tactic?

I don't name my tactics or use any consciously. I play however I feel like it. I go with the flow (or at least I do when I'm in 9 other games ¬_¬). I don't know how I come across to others or follow particular tactics, but if people think I've been prodding for info then I may very well have bee. I play without any aims other than lynching scum. Anything else is second place.

And yes, you have been misrepresenting people.

I've answered why I haven't

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what do you mean best?
does it have to be a theme game? can it be an open game? do i have to be VT?

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the first game that comes to mind for 'best town game' is my donner party open game. It's the first of 2 town games that I've won. I made 2 awesome vig kills and DH can back me up there that I would have been best player were DRK not been an even better roleblocker

however, aside from my vigilante prowess my play was lackluster, especially pre-claim

my other town win game was a really long newbie game where I was fantastic D1, bagging the scum who no-one suspected, but completely clueless D2

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and what might be the point of this line of reasoning?

i.e. what are you looking for in these games of mine?

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you were the one who called it a read

anyways, for me to give links you'll have to answer post 333 where I ask you to clarify what you mean by best

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you were the one who called it a read

Okay. But out of interest, if vezokpiraka said he had a town read on himself, would you think this scummy? (After all, he'd know he was town and it wouldn't be a read, right?)

Yes I would think it wee odd. But in my case you placed the words into my mouth. A trick which I wouldn't put past yourself

anyways, for me to give links you'll have to answer post 333 where I ask you to clarify what you mean by best

When you then suggested games, I assumed you knew what I meant. >>

Games where you think you played well (reasonably consistently).

I rarely play consistently. In the donner party game I mentioned I was quite bad pre-claim and in the other game I was totally wrong D2 after being so right D1. The only other semi-reasonable townie game of mine would be the fishbowl one. After I became a confirmed townie in that game my play improved and I got nightkilled, but prior to that I was less sharp

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I have no problem providing links, and will do so, but you might end up getting the wrong type of game you want from me if we don't clarify now

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take your pick

(chronological order)
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=16537
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=51&t=16906
https://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=17140

ftr, DH was in the second game too

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I find it interesting how you're not asking for a scum game too, to balance it out and so you know that there are some things I don't just do as town (I can't give an example though)

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What do you say to that now?

you know what I meant. I wanted to put myself and vezok in the same category as people I either know or think are town, and read was the word that fitted vezok, less so with myself

that doesn't seem to quite match up. What do you think of that?

in that game I had better evidence. Not so with this one.

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I am vanilla townie

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a Most Proper but Unspectacular Man of Class if we're going to talk fancy

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...
are you going to discuss my claim or linguistics?
IIOA all around from hoppster

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...
are you going to discuss my claim or linguistics?
IIOA all around from hoppster

Umm, did you just admit that I was providing information in saying that you were misrepresenting people?

Yes, yes you did.

(If you think you didn't, then you're probably scum anyway for using a buzzword to try and defend yourself without believing it to be true.)

so many assumption you use there

1) that town never confuse abbreviations
2) that the IIOA was reffering to the whole of your post, not just the part where you IIOA my claim
3) that the information in IIOA is true information

assumptions. oh dear

'oh, well even though he flipped VT twisted deserved to die. His fault for acting so scummy etc.' is what hoppster will say when i flip town

no explanation for tunnelling on me though, as he always does and I always flip town.
When I flip town lynch Hoppster. Trust me
If hoppster is scum I'll never let you live it down

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1) they can still make mistakes, no?
2) yes, but paired with my reference tt your discussion of my claim I am correct.
3) It was obvious that It was wrong. Why would I agree with you that I'm scum when i know I'm not, or on anything else in this game regarding my alignment for that mater?

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After a skim over of the thread, TS seems scummy to me. I first thought that Hoppster was scummier because of the self vote but as I went on he got some more town points. Will go more in depth read tomorrow.

so what will happen to these scum points should/when I flip town?

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what's wrong wrong asking him a question. If he's a fresh player, then questions should be expected

also, you can hardly dismiss it as 'stranger' like that
He still replaced apok so the slot is no stranger

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what's wrong wrong asking him a question. If he's a fresh player, then questions should be expected

Your question, sir, assumes that we are going to suspect he is a villain because he will be advocating what you say is your mislynch.

so?

everyone who votes for me does so, but I doubt we have 6 mafia

that would be daft to assume

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I'm not condemming him, I was asking a question

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kthanx

now what are you going to do when you see I flip town

Actually, I forgot bout this.

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I'm actually a miller, but I guess that doesn't matter anymore, and I'd only have been lynched sooner

so..

hoppster lynch D2? (please understand that I hold you in the highest respect Hoppster, but realise that for the second time, tunnelling on me has not been beneficial to town and advise you not to do so in the next game :p )

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so yeah

I guess a miller lynch is better than a VT lynch ...

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because I thought it was obvious

or it will be after the lock

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oh, and you reaction goes under the same category of the 'scum thanking the doc' scumtell

you've overreacted to a town flip by quite a bit here

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uh, how about the last game you tunnelled on me where I was town

anyways, I provided meta in my good town games

you should have asked for my worst town games

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and hardly omgus since I voted you first

if anything, you omgus'd me