Goofbash Invitational (Game Over)

[Minineko]

Hii. Reading now. Post tonight =D

[Minineko]

Leader my ass. You've been talking out of your ass all game long, and running around in circles with your reads. I tried making sense of it all, and nothing fit into place until I realized that you could be Scum, and all of a sudden it all works out.

LOL Sens, I think I've heard those exact words before somewhere. Anyway, this and your other posts as I skim the end of this thread lead me to believe you're probtown.

Chamber'll be able to read me. We read each other correctly in Oldy.

o_____O

Does that statement not seem odd to anyone else?

Sorry bout this half-assed post, more reading soon, this is just to get something out there.

[Minineko]

Reading this thread is a lot more fun when I imagine your voices reading them to me. That also somehow helps me get reads.

It is absolutely that simple. Besides, you'll presumably be able to read Chamber, so there's something for everyone.

Mina, you should unvote DGB now. We womenfolk shall stake out a couch and all be town together. We can also fit in sly comments about waiting for our other heads to start making out. It'll be great.

I am kind of bored by the Senswagon.

Ether's too into this to be scum.

It's a little early to discount Mina/Kats as scum IMO. Ether/Chamber are likely town however.

Why Chamber so early? I don't even remember any of his posts from before this one.

Just Kats wagon grew too quickly and silently.

Seems like a very town observation.

well hes [Minineko] confirmed town anyway so its okay.

Cool, I didn't know?

Sens and I are in a voting block. I assume Minineko will join me whenever the hell he logs in. Tanstals seems fine with this plan as well.

MOO?

Vitamin, what do you think about Kise's points on Faraday?

This is the kind of fake town post I make as scum all the time to appear town: "X what you you think about what Y said on Z", picking players at random. Seems random.

That said if you catch me making posts like that you should lynch me 8)

Have you ever caught her as scum, Faraday?

I like this question. Onto the likely town list you go.

No no no, I always wagoned Katsuki and put him under pressure because it's the only way to get him to actually give reads / play the game but as I said his wagon is proceeding and Mina is being quite active for him which nicely frees up my vote.

More thinking that only makes sense if he's town.

A) As I said she's playing in a way that looks like active lurking to me and B) She's not behaving like I'd expect based off past games with her at goofbash, recent games on MS and I find it odd that she would purposely change her meta in a game where everyone has a leg up on reading each other due to meta familiarity.

Nah this is how DGB always plays, you have to wait until she does something other than what she's doing now to get any sort of read.

Nope this is real scum lynching time.

FATE SHEEP

ASSEMBLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

ARF?

minineko is town; when i originally checked the game thread there were 15 players, even the op says 15, not sure when he was added, but it was him that was added and i think that makes him more likely town.

Really Patrick just forgot to put me on the list. I got my role before I was added to the player list.

RECK is probably town, which means Faraday should be town too

Well dram is either bus'ing Fate, or fixating on a townie.

Either way, he needs rope.

wat

Something kind of bugs me about the dram posts, like he knew faraday wasn't lying about being a vengeful.

Yea, that IS weird.

I'm tentatively gonna say dramonic's townish (572 sounds like it comes from someone without a QuickTopic).

Oooh, but this is a much better point. Guess dram's probably town.

[Minineko]

I find it alarming how quick Fate and DBG added me to the conftown/masons list. Fate I can buy, DGB notsosure.

holy shit really? That's epic.

vote Kise

Haha, I wish, but I can't put someone on the scum list if I don't think they are scum.

K, you're scum.

Ehhhh looks null to me. That's gonna sound awkward whether you're town or scum.

No one is showing how Nik can be town. What's the hold up with this lynch?

unvote, vote Kise

Reck claims he can read Dram. Dram lurks, Reck says he can't get a read because Dram isn't posting.

If Dram was town, you would think he would post more so Reck could confirm him as town.

Unvote:
Vote: Dramonic

This actually seems kind of legit.

[Minineko]

You guys know a GREAT time to wait for hydras to be activated?

NIGHT TIME!

Nikanor lynch now , kthx. He's not even pretending to scumhunt or act town any fucking more.

Hmm, maybe I can go for this one.

Based on my experience with DGB that's very much the norm, so it's odd that you have a problem with her doing it but not Fate.

Because usually when DBG does it I can tell where the read comes from, but not this one.

unvote, vote Nikanor

[Minineko]

Vote: Blackberry

Duh, I mean why is anything else even being discussed. That DGB lynch was TERRIBLE.

vote Blackberry

I don't know what the hell you are doing now but it's going to take one hell of an explanation for this vote to come off. Right now what it looks like is you're scum gambitting WIFOM nonsense "I'm not dumb enough to 1for1 if I'm scum like that" and that's not going to work.

[Minineko]

In the meantime anyone who wants to meta me may find where I've did this before as VT

More WIFOM?

[Minineko]

Do you disagree with my reasoning for placing the vote?

Yes. You seem to be saying that Blackberry is a good lynch, because, if he's town, his behaviour is anti-town anyway. I disagree that that is a good reason to lynch someone.

The reason sucks but his heart is in the right place.

[Minineko]

Kise looks pretty town. Just fyi.

I agree actually, I'm slowly changing my mind on him.
update: ocrap, nvm.

Vote: Irish Carbomb

Vote: Irish Carbomb

Vote: Irish Carbomb

I was liking the IC wagon until ABR hopped on, now I'm lukewarm on it

Vote: ABR

Vote: TheButtonmen

What the hell is this, No, NO Stop it

Can we deal with the obvscum first?

The one you don't have a case on?

[Minineko]

Hello, reading. I don't think I'm that far behind though.

[Minineko]

How is it stalling? You literally just said "Mina you have until hammer to convince us." And then I said "Yo guys, wait on the hammer so Mina can convince them."

vote SensFan

, this post makes no sense from townie perspective whatsoever, he has to be scum. This is really all I spotted in the catching up but it's all I need...

[Minineko]

Well I'm fine lynching you first and you can use your vengeful kill on Mina. I trust Reck to do this, not Faraday btw. Kill Mina FTW.

WHAT

vote ABR

Unvote Minasuki, vote IC

WHAT

unvote, vote ABR

Irish and Minasuki (and dram) both seem obviously town, the scum are prob between Button, ABR, tans and Vit, Button says its not Vit so I can leave Vit out for now, and with posts like that ABR seems most likely. Sounds like he's trying to plot a scum win out loud.

[Minineko]

Why does Button saying I'm town mean you can leave me out for now? Explain this to me, please.

He sounds so certain, if it's you it's prob also him

[Minineko]

Even I knew IC had unclaimed....

There's no need to worry about me in endgame, I'm a bodyguard. We can use this to ensure that our endgame situation isn't all that bad. I missed my action the first night and protected Mina/Kats every other night.

[Minineko]

Why did you miss your first night action? The day ended not too long after your last post of that day.

Also, who would you have protected that night? Had you decided?

I completely forgot I had an ability.

Has anyone looked through Buttonmen's posts for crumbs? I don't see that anywhere, I'm going to do that now...

[Minineko]

Buttonmen seemed very certain about VitR, maybe it's because of a result? We have to forget what logical targets for him would be because he has some unknown limitation...

He voted IC end of last day, but I still doubt they're scum. Also this makes it look like Not A Result:

TBM why IC?

He has a decent wagon on him, he's not on the list of people I think are town, the game has stalled and deadline is tomorrow.

TBM, who's scum?

I'm actually having a tough time answering this question as everyone is just sitting on their arses and the game is completely stagneting. The few posts we do get are typically just players making bickering one liners.

Sounds like he obv doesn't have negs. I think it's likely he had a town result on Vitamin. I think both hydras are town, and if IC says dram is town, he's probably right. That leaves tans as the most likely suspect.

DGB - Why am I still in your scum list? I thought you said you could read me 95% of the time. Are you scum too?

Dunno how this read works but is it really this accurate?

Hmm..

Two people I feel good about are on Nikanor, and Vitimin thinks it's a bad wagon..

lol-easy peasy choice

Unvote
Vote: Nikanor

Hmm, dunno wat to think of this one

My Dram wagon isn't going anywhere so.

Unvote
Vote: Nikanor

That's L-1 BTW - Don't want any 'oops didn't know that was a hammer' votes

This smells like a bad bus.

The fact that he kinda tunneled on ABR yesterday makes me uneasy.

Second choice would prob be dram, he's the least solid "elimination"...

[Minineko]

Reply to #1757

IC, you're trying to take my actions and figure out why they all make sense from a scum perspective. The thing is- even if they do, they also make sense from a town one. This sort of analysis works when you conclude that these actions/posts *make no sense as town* - not when they simply *are plausible for scum*. The only solid argument I have heard is if I am protecting Mina every night why am I not dead? Sadly, only the scum can answer that... it would make sense if Mina were scum but that's pretty obviously not the case.

a) I voted Kise for voting Nikanor because his reasons were terrible.

b) The DGB lynch *was* terrible, and really fast. I completely missed it. Are you saying the DGB lynch wasn't terrible? Of course you're not- so what's the problem with me saying it?

c) It does kinda read like a bus, I'll admit, but it isn't one. Do my votes on the other two scums + traitor look like buses too?

d) I legitimately forgot the ability. Awful, I know. What would motivate me, as scum, to make that claim? The fact that I brought that up myself kinda wifom's it, but there's nothing else to say here.

Then there's this part:

Remember back in B how he defended VitR as town, then in C said that us/Mina/dram were obvtown? He had to bus his buddy (ABR's lynch was inevitable) which left him with tans and VitR as possible lynches… but oops, VitR was town via Buttons, which means he HAS to push tanstalas today… which he's clearly doing.

Except, I'm not scum, and tans is still the logical choice. It's him by elimination.

Note his last line, though -- he's casting suspicion back on his "obvtown" read of dram. Which, by the way, first he says dram is town due to CokeDeity calling him town, THEN he says dram is town because we called him town, and now he's setting dram up as a second mislynch after tanstalas flips town. He had backed himself into a corner by declaring us/Mina/dram town, then the daycop result on VitR fucked up his plans. Now he's having to go back on the dramtown read (which he changed his reasoning for TWICE already), and he's doing this before tans is even lynched, as if he knows what's going to happen.

I don't think dram is scum. I was asked who my top picks are. Obv tans is #1, #2 is a lot more difficult, but dram is the town read I have that I am the least confidant of, that's all...

[Minineko]

I'm not voting and I probably should -

vote tanstalas

Especially with that Kise kill N3.

I missed this post before, I don't understand it?

[Minineko]

There isn't really any flavor, and there isn't really anything I can paraphrase without being nervous about modkills... I wish I had a better answer but it is what it is...

[Minineko]

It basically says I have a really awesome role that is too valuable and I have to stay alive at all costs owait lol jk youre just a bodyguard.

No flavor other than that.

[Minineko]

I'm voting Mini unless someone can convince me that the correct play in this situation is to keep him alive for the bodyguard WIFOM.

Well if I am alive there's a decent chance I will die instead of an obvtownie, getting us more lynches... which I'm pretty sure we won't need if we get tans today.