New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[Otolia]

Hi guys. New guy with suicidal tendencies here. Welcome me well in your little paradise.

@Mod : Can you please update your first post with every confirmed player ? That would be much appreciated.

[Otolia]

Yeah, stuff needs to happen. At this point I don't really care what.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: Johhog

So you are basically saying that we need to dawn the game without us caring about who we lynch ?

[Otolia]

I am not saying it's a bad idea, but I want to be sure it was his thought. I would have propose it sooner or later anyway. I'm ready to end the day but why first I need to do a small ISO of johnhog to see if it's

that

obvious.

[Otolia]

It's sad to say things like this, but you have your responsibility in this. People flaked, you didn't but you player poorly enough to make people think you are scum. I don't think you are based on the last 10 pages but at this point we need to get going. Any D1 scumtell is now drawn into the abyss of flood. I'm sorry to say this but we need to move forward, and though you are a Night Vig, you wouldn't have fired on N1 so we need to keep you 2 days to see a good effect of your PR. I honestly don't want to look for another 'victim' today. Accept it with dignity and tell us your reads or just spare us the whining. That's pointless.

[Otolia]

Alright, let's end this pathetic day. I'm sorry buddy but someone gotta do the job.

VOTE: Johnhog

[Otolia]

Can we have more infos on this lewarcher wagon ? I am ready to vote for him even without infos since he is not playing anymore but Oversoul did let us know he had infos.

[Otolia]

So you all hates this game at a point you absolutely make no sense at all ? That's great, but let's review what Oversoul (who started the wagon on lewarcher) wrote.

Vote: LC

- If the mafia did their part then we should do the same.

Seriously?

Wow, Empking. Wow.

Anyway, VOTE: Lewarcher/replacement

I'll divulge my reasons as to why later.

Gotta go for now.

I bolded the important part. I'm just waiting what is due. This post was the second after D2 dusk and he said no to a Lord Chronos wagon and jump on lewarcher instead. If there is reasons for that, I wanna know why. And please spare me the 'rolefishing is scum'-trope because you all know that's not true especially in a non-disclosed big normal game. And I never said I wanted him to post : " I am whatever-power-role-you-want-him-to-be. " That's what

YOU

want without having the courage to express it. Don't be cowards. I want the infos he promised. I don't like the idea of bandwagoning someone over small accusations just because someone said it. It's not D1 anymore and we are not that dumb, at least I know I'm not. However I never like flaker and that's why I'm ready to vote for any of them anytime of the day but that's my policy on it and it has nothing to do with alignment.

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1. The way the question is worded carries these connotations. "Without caring about who we lynch"? Sounds very much like an accusation of being scummy to me.
2. It's fairly obvious that that was indeed his thought. The question looks like a poor attempt to cover

his mistake

up.

The idea of lynching Johhog to go to night had already been proposed anyway. This just sounds like an overcompensation for

the mistake

made earlier.

I'm ready to end the day but why first I need to do a small ISO of johnhog to see if it's that obvious.

This never happened.

I did the ISO for myself, and I didn't feel like posting them because it wouldn't have matters anyway. I'm not investigating someone so that you can see it ...
Otherwise, mistake ? Where is this 'mistake' ?

[Otolia]

Surely if you come to some sort of conclusion, then sharing it would be beneficial to the town? This seems very scummy.

Otherwise, mistake ? Where is this 'mistake' ?

When you posed your very negatively worded question at hoppster, then read back in the thread, and then realised that everyone was doing exactly what he did, and then proceeding to backflip completely on your original stance.

What if I don't come to some kind of useful conclusion ? Do I post 'I don't think, he is scummy but you are all blind and should pay more attention to the game ?" and add to the 40 pages crap that has been written ? Hell no !

Negatively worded ? That what a rhetorical question. I never 'backflip' on that, we dawned the day without caring about Johnhog, it is exactly what we have done. I was expressing my reluctance to do that, and at the same time I acknowledged that it was the sole responsible thing to do. When you do an ISO, fatlikepig, you might as well do everything (especially when there is like 6 posts >.>)

It's sad to say things like this, but you have your responsibility in this. People flaked, you didn't but you player poorly enough to make people think you are scum. I don't think you are based on the last 10 pages but at this point we need to get going. Any D1 scumtell is now drawn into the abyss of flood. I'm sorry to say this but we need to move forward, and though you are a Night Vig, you wouldn't have fired on N1 so we need to keep you 2 days to see a good effect of your PR. I honestly don't want to look for another 'victim' today. Accept it with dignity and tell us your reads or just spare us the whining. That's pointless.

[Otolia]

But only town would be open about it.

I don't agree. If you wish you could explain your reasoning to me.

[Otolia]

Um ok. I guess what we'll do is start our reads over beginning with Day 2.

Or ... you could try to post something more useful than one-liners.

Scum fear the lynch more than town.

Do you think that someone who is vocal about the state of the game is something waiting to be lynched. I don't see the relation between the two.

[Otolia]

David, stop trying to out guess the mod and make broad assumptions. Leaving Lewarcher at this moment in the game is the best mce for town. I don't want to lynch another town PR like yesterday. Lewarcher alive gives WIFOM to the mafia. If we lynch him, I am surely going to die tonight.

Otolia is actually scummy especially with his fail hammer and his horrible play today. If Lew isn't dead tomorrow, and I am we can safely assume that he is more likely mafia.

I shouldn't have even made the claim. >_> I have such bad foresight.

I didn't failhammer, I made the wisest decision yesterday, and it has absolutely nothing to do with alignment. Maybe you will understand that one day. Now you vote me because I was the only one with balls on this game. You promised something and I said I wanted to know what it was, I never asked for your role which you foolishly felt like claiming. If you are willing to see that as scummy that's your call. You softclaimed like a newbie and then say I play horribly ... That's quite the hypocrisy !

Let me remind you, that cop don't normally have guns (because they have no kill possibilities) and that if you spotted someone with a gun, it's either a SK, a Vig or a scum. The probability of another Vig is low except a Day-Vig with limited shot (it's a big game), a SK is probable because it's a big game and there is a gunsmith and in all likelyhood, Lewarcher is scum.
VOTE: Lewarcher

[Otolia]

Oversoul, you are going stop right now with the insults and the swearing.

[Otolia]

Oto: I know you're on the site. Please post or as far as I'm concerned you're claiming scum.

I am here, I will post but I don't like to claim this early.

[Otolia]

If I were a VT, I wouldn't claim and let you lynch me but I'm not. There is a problem in Oversoul investigation because I'm not scum and I don't understand how he had such a result. I could have been framed but Framer for Gunsmith are considered not normal. So I can't thought of any reasonable possibility except a bluff/gambit from him.

Claim : Town Watcher

Results :

• Nobody visited Xeras D1.
• Nobody visited Hoppster D2.

[Otolia]

Why did you choose to watch those two?

I choosed Xeras because he prod-dodged quite a few times in D1, he wasn't the only one that's for sure but he was there from the beginning. Giving that scum have less incentives to leave (due to their role being statistically less received), I read that as a scum.

Next day is fairly normal, since hiplop obviously throw his Neighbors under the bus, I assume someone who come to see one of them. Giving that the scum was more likely to kill Oversoul and a Doctor more likely to protect him (and I have no way to distinguish any of them) I choose to watch another player.

I am honestly puzzled by Oversoul saying.

[Otolia]

It is literally impossible for that claim to be true.

And why if I may asked ? Because you say so ?

[Otolia]

VOTE: Otolia

Post-Game is going to be interesting. See you there.