New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

[redFF]

I'm going to try something:

1: Why do you play Mafia?

It's very freeform, there are endless possibilities with what you can do just by manipulating words.

2: How old are you?

Whatever age you want me to be.

3: How would you describe your general thought process?

I'm very headstrong. I go with my gut and sometimes get very tunnely. But i do read the thread and try and think things over objectively.

4: What is your time-zone?

EST

5: How do you approach unique problems in need of solution?

Google

6: What is your favorite precious metal, and why?

wtf...Erm mercury i guess.

7: How would you approach this game as town?

Post a lot, ask a lot of questions. Try and catch scum!

8: How would you approach this game as scum?

Post a lot, ask more questions.

9: What is your gender?

Male

10: Are you nervous?

It's my first game on MS so sure.

11: What is your experience level?

I've played like ~20 forum mafia games. A lot on irc too.

12: What are your strongest emotions?

Happiness and Frustration.

13: What's your general activity level?

I'm on my comp from like 6/7 to 3/4 est.

14: What is your plan in this game?

I'll post a lot and try and gauge what kind of playstyle is required of me in MS.

15: Which do you prefer: RVS, RQS, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

I dunno what they are, had to search. I suppose questions would be better because it makes people talk more.

16: Do you have a reputation? What for?

On other sites i have a rep for posting/spamming and being rather rash.

17: Do you prefer playing as town, scum, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

I prefer town because you have nothing to hide but at the same time its a challenge because being wrong sucks :/

18: What are your favorite three roles?

Dayvig,VT, veteran

19: What order are those favorite roles in?

Dayvig, Veteran, vt

20: What is your stance on lurkers?

Not really worth a lynch. I prefer for vigs to shoot them. There's nothing worse then bringing a lurker to endgame.

21: How do you plan on catching scum?

Reading the thread, Asking questions, forcing people to contribute. If i see a post where someone is verbose and makes very little sense then i'll call that person out straight away.

22: What do these questions mean to you?

A good way to gauge the personality and possible meta of players.

23: What is the airspeed velocity of a coconut-laden swallow?

OVER 9000

24: You see someone waving their arms and directing you to go right. How do you respond?

ask them why..

[redFF]

An additional question I want to ask everyone:

25A: Do you play more for fun, or more for the thrill of victory?

FUN

25B: Your stance aside, do you think others should play with a similar outlook? Explain why or why not.

No I enjoy playing with people with different playstyles makes it more interesting.

[redFF]

Empking i did your survey <3

[redFF]

On other forums i've played on people don't really post town/mafia lists within the first few hours of the game. Regardless

UNVOTE: Vifam

I'll deal with

you

later

.

VOTE: Mastin2

Racist bugger calling both Scotsmen Scum!

And no, I'm not answering your damn questions.

I see no reason for a town player to not answer the questions...

Probably not. Did love your unreasoned OMGUS vote though. May come back to it.

Wasn't it random voting? Why is that scummy?

VOTE: David Xanatos for now.

[redFF]

I would prefer it if you kept the posts to your hydra as it will get redic confusing as the game goes on :O

[redFF]

ohh you mean the captcha. derp my bad. still try and keep the posting to one account :O

[redFF]

This argument is stupid. I think it's weird how defensive Johhog is getting over a pretty shitty reason to call him scum. If i was him i'd just be like lol this argument is stupid, but he even went so far as to try and prove he wasnt online at the time.

[redFF]

redFF: What's your read on myself?

Town right now. You seem to have a rather good understanding of the game but I'd like it if your posts were a bit longer. Your asking a lot of questions and I think that

Mastin; Why didn't you notice that I didn't answer one of your questions?

this post is a towntell because it shows you are actively trying to find out whether people are false or not. That's what I'm getting. TBH you seem like one of the only people scumhunting in this game right now :S.

[redFF]

Webster is indeed right.

You are indeed wrong.

And I'm the one contributing here, you're just running around OMGUSing and making up poor cases.

Wait didn't he Vifam call you scum first? so surely you are OMGUS?

[redFF]

Yeah Oversoul's self vote seems like sad town to me. Interested to see how it develops. Oversoul I SEE U THERE, COME AND POST :O.

VOTE: David Xanatos
Reasons given for not answering the questions have been awful, hasn't really contributed at all.

[redFF]

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Scum, not liking your posts until about 2 pages ago
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Null
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Town
6. mastin2 - Town
7. Vifam - Null leaning town, still don't like that argument between you and Johhog though
8. BomberMan - Null leaning scum
9. Fool_Hardy - Null leaning town
10. David Xanatos - Scum, don't like you not answering questions
11. Oversoul - Null leaning town, self voting doesn't sit well with me though, don't know why you would do that.
14. LordChronos - Null
15. Johhog - Town, don't like that argument between you and vifam though
16. LTP Mafia - Null
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Scum
20. redFF - Null leaning town

Ommitted people haven't posted yet, i skim read the last 6 pages or so, may have missed a post by them.

Does anybody else think these kinda posts are scummy as hell? I mean it's just getting a list of all the players, saying town about players who are considered pro-town at the time by the thread and scum about players considered scummy at the time by the thread. And then null leaning x about players who haven't really been looked at by anyone. If you gave reasons for reads then maybe but these posts just set off alarms in my head.

[redFF]

I am here again.

UNVOTE:

Can't believe it took a self vote on myself for you all to realize that I'm not scum.

KC/Bomberman, what questions do I have to answer?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: redFF
LOL IM TOWN TOO

...

[redFF]

CONSIDER ME UNIMPRESSED

Also
UNVOTE:
VOTE: Oversoul That vote on himself and claiming that's a town tell and then unvoting was ridiculous, plus he isn't even adressing cases against him. Still want David to answer the questions tho.

[redFF]

I have scumreads on RedFF and kcdaspot, null leaning scum on Bomberman and town on Mastin.

Care to explain why? You can say you have scumreads on anyone on this website because nobody ever calls you out on it. Why do you think I'm scum?

[redFF]

What did you want him to say?


"Thank you for unvoting"?

This.

wow you guys are awful friendly now after your argument..

[redFF]

You guys are fucking retards and oversoul is mafia.

[redFF]

No thanks I won't pursue other wagons we can just lynch the scum lol.

[redFF]

What makes you so sure?

[redFF]

lol RedFF is scum

care to elaborate?

[redFF]

UNVOTE: Secret ProjectVOTE: redFF

I'm not getting a wagon on SP, so let's try this instead.

This post is scummy as fuck.

K so this shitty bandwagon I've started hasn't had any success. Oh look, a few people have called redFF scummy in the last couple of pages, let's see if i can start a bandwagon on him with no reasoning!

wtf is going on here when people are allowed to do this.

[redFF]

UNVOTE: Secret ProjectVOTE: redFF

I'm not getting a wagon on SP, so let's try this instead.

This post is scummy as fuck.

K so this shitty bandwagon I've started hasn't had any success. Oh look, a few people have called redFF scummy in the last couple of pages, let's see if i can start a bandwagon on him with no reasoning!

wtf is going on here when people are allowed to do this.

ah, scum rage. always interesting.

vote: redFF

you neglect to mention that Johhog has been over his opinion of you several times and it's only been good once.

Mastin; Why didn't you notice that I didn't answer one of your questions?

this post is a towntell because it shows you are actively trying to find out whether people are false or not. That's what I'm getting. TBH you seem like one of the only people scumhunting in this game right now :S.

That's actually a good call.

1. Empking - Town
2. Kcdaspot - Scum
3. Estyn - Town
4. Xeras - Null
5. Foolish Fool (Haylen + JordanA24) - Town
6. mastin2 - Null leaning town
7. Vifam - Town, now even more after those last 5 pages
8. BomberMan - I have know clue wtf he is doing (actually he is reminding me of myself quite a bit) but I guess null leaning scum.
9. Fool_Hardy - Null leaning town
10. David Xanatos - Town
11. Oversoul - Probably town
12. MintKitten - NONCONFIRMER
13. whiTE_Teaz - NONCONFIRMER
14. LordChronos - Town
15. Johhog - Obvtown
16. LTP Mafia - Null
17. Secret Project (evilpacman18 + MrBump) - Scum
18. donkwich - NONCONFIRMER
19. lewarcher82 - NONCONFIRMER
20. redFF - Null leaning scum

I have scumreads on RedFF and kcdaspot, null leaning scum on Bomberman and town on Mastin.

UNVOTE: Secret ProjectVOTE: redFF

I'm not getting a wagon on SP, so let's try this instead.

Nope never given reasoning, gone from saying one of my posts was good to a null lean scum read to a scumread to a vote. Zero explanation. Try harder please

[redFF]

oh whoops i only ctr+f redff in his posts derp. Still he only said that after i called him out on saying he had a scumread on me. tbh i actually think that right now scumteam is oversoul johhog SR and vifam lol...

[redFF]

Misreading is not the same as lying.

[redFF]

UNVOTE: redFF
VOTE: Xeras

I guess we-who-don't-want-to-quicklynch-Oversoul shall be united. Let's try this wagon instead then.

wtf ur voteswitching and randomly trying to start bandwagons. What is going on. I almost feel like you are oversoul's scumbuddy trying to swing the lynch but that would be too easy :O

[redFF]

Could somebody explain the slip?

[redFF]

It still does. Quicklynching redFF or Xeras doesn't look so bad though.

[redFF]

What a fantastic introductory game to mafiascum T.T

[redFF]

EPIC SAVE

[redFF]

i never got a pm telling me game was bac on, but im happpy it is.

[redFF]

VOTE: oversoul
since i have to revote right

[redFF]

I think xanatos's town play consists of being useless, not even attempting to scumhunt, being cryptic and not really putting in any effort and bragging about it. town read. oversoul and johhog are scummiest but i gotta reread.

[redFF]

Far from it my friend. I'm taking notes here, I like to vary my play.. see what works. Consider this an experiment, if you will.

Hint. It isn't working.

And that is a shitty excuse for playing the way you are playing.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: DavidX

Mastin, where is your charisma? Your swagger? Your confidence? I loved your play in Sexy Sedilla, but after the fail lynch you just seemed to take on a whole different air. Please listen to us that the self pity thing, while emotionally stressful, doesn't help us and brings down the mood of the whole game. I am the type of person who rides on other's emotions. If a game is going slow, I probably won't take interest in it and post less often. If a game is full of people who are geared up and ready to fight, chances are everyone is interested.

Do you still believe I am scum? Or that anyone on your early reads list is right?

yup your mafia. jump on more bandwagons!

[redFF]

BUT UR MAFIA

[redFF]

LOL
UNVOTE:
VOTE: johhog

[redFF]

^The above is an awesome reason to vote someone. "LOL" is from now on the reason I will always use when I vote.

LOL

[redFF]

Eh, RedFF is scum too, by the way.


Replacing out is null.

whys taht

[redFF]

i demand you to explain now its anti town to withhold information/analysis. plus u might die that night.

[redFF]

This game really needs my love. I was wise to note I was busy, but it was more-so than I had anticipated. Not that it apparently matters, since nobody has PM'd me about my absence. (It's kinda sad. Having that feeling. That you could not post for a week. That you could fade off the site. And that nobody would notice or care. That's what this game makes me feel like.)

But, hey. After I get some sleep (5:20 AM, and I've been up for 20 hours now), I don't think I'll have anything tomorrow.

wtf is this post. You literally said nothing here, just made excuses for inactivity. I'd like to see you start contributing soon since you are apparently a well regarded player here.

[redFF]

for reasons i cant go into, i really really really think davidxanatos is town, based on something i cannot talk about, but im sure vifam knows about it, but i can't talk about it, but i think xanatos is town.

[redFF]

Yeah, I get what you mean but tbh they're waaay too generic to make sense as accusations towards me, so I don't really know what to answer.

[redFF]

[redFF]

yes empking clearly picked up the thing that i cant talk about that makes xanatos town =D

[redFF]

vifam will back me up on the reason i cant talk about that xanatos is town. RIGHT VIFAM.

[redFF]

i demand you to explain now its anti town to withhold information/analysis. plus u might die that night.

for reasons i cant go into, i really really really think davidxanatos is town, based on something i cannot talk about, but im sure vifam knows about it, but i can't talk about it, but i think xanatos is town.

Um...

im not withholding information/analysis, im putting it out there, its just im not allowed to talk about the reason i think xanatos is town.

[redFF]

It's due to an ongoing game.


RedFF is taking it way to seriously.

i neither confirm nor deny the validity of this statement.

[redFF]

OK. Everyone vote Johnog



NOW!

I TRAVELLED BACK IN TIME TO DO IT

[redFF]

wait what.

[redFF]

Thank you in advance.

I think you may have messed up your timeline.

[redFF]

I agree but this claim shit has only made him look scummier imo.

IMA CLAIM
IMA DO IT
YOU JUST WATCH
IMA CLAIM
I SWEAR
WAIT FOR IT
WAIT FOR IT
WAIT FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR IIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT

stupid

[redFF]

IMA CLAIM NOW GUYS
FOR REAL THIS TIME
WAIT AND SEE
HERE IT COMES
IM GOING TO CLAIM
REALLY

votes someone he doesn't think is scum

Can we lynch Johhog now?

[redFF]

yeah your claim doesn't make you unlynchable. Honestly johhog is still looking scummy.

[redFF]

yeah but you only claimed vig when there was a huge wagon on you lol. You were already looking scummy, you could very easily be (and I think you are) scum fakeclaiming lol.

[redFF]

why is it scaring you lol?

[redFF]

Johhog the only bad player here is too. You got lynched day 1, therefore you are terrible. Don't call town bad, if you get lynched it's always your fault. If you're town you are bad because you failed to establish your townieness sufficiently, and if you are scum you are bad because you got found out. If their are votes on you, you are always the problem, not town.

Stop blaming other players for your own inadequacies.

I still think you're scum tho this whole guilt trip thing ain't workin too well. I'd like to see all your reads before you die, not just how dumb you think we all are.

[redFF]

why am i mafia?

[redFF]

Alright, I think that Empking is just unhelpful town. Lynch redFF tomorrow or I will rage post-game. If you lynch anyone else (if something miraculous don't happen) you all suck.

[redFF]

Which is perfectly logical if you think about it.

You don't have to worry though, Godfather redFF, you're not a part of the town.

lol

[redFF]

sorry but how am i scummy? I must have missed that somewhere.

[redFF]

if you are town (which i doubt), one of the worst things you can do is say IF I FLIP TOWN THEN X IS 100% SCUM. just because i voted and attacked you doesn't make me mafia if you are town. If you are town you suck, if you are mafia you also suck but not as hard.

[redFF]

...

[redFF]

leaves the thread, laughing and shaking his head

[redFF]

well that was fucking stupid

[redFF]

Here, kinda.

Still haven't finished my work, since...well, it's a lot of info, and I screwed up somewhere. Been trying to figure out where I went wrong and what's missing/got deleted/got accidentally edited/got mutated/whatever. I know there's SOMETHING, but I'm having trouble pinning it down.

BTW, just for the record. I really should read the game, but my notes still say Oversoul is scum, Secret Project is scum, and Fool_Hardy/Projectmatt is scum as well, but I need another name or two. (I've forgotten how many players are in the game, which makes the difference between it being four or five. I just remember three was too few.) Johhog was one of my strongest town-reads by my notes. Empking was the other one, with Xeras and Vifam as weaker town-reads. I remember more--Foolish Fool (dunno why), David Xanatos for his stubborness, Kcdaspot for an Oversoul/KCD interaction (see also: Oversoul scumread), and I THINK Bomberman was one as well. There might've been Lord Chronos and LTP Mafia town-reads, but I'm less certain on them.

Estyn was firmly null, though; I remember that much. Along with redFF. Don't remember who else I had as null.


I know, I know. I suck, I'm in the dark as to the game state, what claims there are, I've done zero visible scumhunting, but I AM trying. It sucks. If I read the thread, my reads will bias my analysis. If I take too long to do my analysis, then I won't be able to read the thread and determine how accurate it is. Hence, I need to figure things out, quickly.

nobody cares about most of that post. just say who you think is scum and why, your posts aren't really contributing at all and if you had johhog as a strong town read why didn't you defend him.

[redFF]

I don't get the lewarcher votes, could someone put up a case.

[redFF]

gunsmith positive on a player who hasn't posted yet i don't like. i am down with the otolia vote tho.
VOTE: otolia

[redFF]

i feel like ironhead including himself in the "likely to be scum" part is a weird way of him trying to earn town cred by being honest and almost offering himself to be lynched kind of not really. scummy.
UNVOTE:
VOTE: ironhead

[redFF]

i
don't
want
to
lynch
another
blue
wait
for
night
2

[redFF]

my vote is on otolia mister mod

Your latest vote is on Ironhead.
~ODM

[redFF]

kk
UNVOTE:
VOTE: hiplop

[redFF]

what do we think of the oversoul/hoppster/secret project "mason circle"? I think it could be worth it to look into these guys and maybe lynch into those 3 today.

[redFF]

also complimenting doctor/bodyguard is a scumtell.

[redFF]

oversoud who did you check/what was result.

[redFF]

honestly mastin has done absolutely nothing this game and i am fine with lynching him.

[redFF]

OTOLIA CLAIM

[redFF]

k
VOTE: otolia

[redFF]

honestly mastin2 has done absolutely nothing this game, promised huge amounts of analysis and not delivered. People seem to be totally ignoring his lurking/non contribution and I don't understand.

so
VOTE: mastin2

[redFF]

How was the day 1 mod disappearance not the mod's fault?

w/e it doesnt matter. I guess now we play the waiting game.

[redFF]

how the fuck do you have a town read on mastin.

1.Promise a shit ton of analysis
2.Be inactive
3.Tell everyone they should be honored for playing in your last game
4.???
5.TOWN READ

[redFF]

^ terrible post
oversoul why did you check me.

[redFF]

I laughed at iron's reads. Its like the obv town people he grudgingly admits are town!

Anyways, where the hell is FF?

???
right here

[redFF]

^ terrible post
oversoul why did you check me.

[redFF]

Cheeky little piece of toast.

[redFF]

the idea of dead players replacing in is stupid and broken.

[redFF]

PROJECTMATT MASTIN SCUMTEAM CALLED IT

[redFF]

kk thats enough for me
UNVOTE:
VOTE: ironhead

[redFF]

scum

[redFF]

jesus christ read the thread or replace out

[redFF]

Or, you know, you could join the wagon on Xeras, who is actually

objectively scummy

. Since you've decided to blindly hop on wagons, apparently.

No-one's managed to explain to me why me vs Ironhead is town v scum. I still don't get it.

what

[redFF]

@redFF - for someone screaming in rage about replace ins not reading...I already asked fatlikeapig about that...and he already answered. Why aren't you reading the thread right now?

@evilpacman - could you explain for me the fatlikeapig/Ironhead thing? Why is one of them a smart a lynch, what setup the either/or situation?

@Ironhead - do you agree with fatlikeapig's case on Xeras?

i never berated any replacement about not reading.

[redFF]

i never berated any replacement about not reading.

Smurfing Smurf read the thread or replace out

Also - why aren't you reading the thread if you wish to berate people who aren't?

.... i was talking to mastin

[redFF]

sigh

[redFF]

i have a negative gunsmith check on me dude.

[redFF]

Sorry Mr Mod. D:

I still feel unsure about Ironhea. I'll take some more time to digest this all later, but I think Matt is the better lynch.

Vote: projectmatt

this is really weird.

[redFF]

whaddya know, somebody actually delivered on a promise. colour me impressed.

[redFF]

Also, WHY THE FUCK WOULD A DAMN MAFIA ROLEBLOCKER IF I WAS FUCKING MAFIA MEMBER VISIT ME?

LOGIC FAIL YOU ARE MOST LIKELY THE DAMN SERIAL KILLER. FUCK OFF.

I DON'T KNOW IF THE DAMN MAFIA HAVE A FRAMER OR WHAT BUT I AM NOT CLAIMING ANYMORE SHIT UNLESS I HAVE TO

we already know your role. claim your check.

[redFF]

i think maybe epm should post a bit more and defend himself.

Iso him he looks pretty weird.

Why is there talk of an SK?

this post too.

[redFF]

could os be an sk gunsmith? I don't know who he checked the night pine was killed and last night.

vote: projectmatt

also epm you are making it very difficult to trust you and os with this your only post of yesterday.

[redFF]

honestly you shouldn't go around faking guiltys and epm shouldn't barely post in thread but have a ton of pro-town discussion in a qt that none of us can view.

[redFF]

redFF stop fucking lurking.

hello!

[redFF]

VOTE: epm

yup you can't do jack shit all game and expect to be ignored because some gunsmith who fakes guilty's says you are.

os how do you know your neighborhood is town only?

that's right you dont lololol

[redFF]

*some gunsmith who fakes guiltys says you are town.

[redFF]

I see you Thor...

redFF, had he been Mafia, or SK, he would have done his actions completely differently.

im confused as to what he has done so far. If you do nothing then there isn't much you can change.

I see you Thor...

stop this please its retarded and annoying.

[redFF]

are you suggesting that i'm not intelligent?

i'm insulted

[redFF]

because of course you're very intelligent.

[redFF]

my reasons for voting epm are perfectly valid.

sr's play and posting day 1 was a lot better than anything after night 1. weird.

[redFF]

Empking, what do you think of the SK killing Pine?

Can you be more specific?

Do you think that it was a good idea to shoot a guaranteed mislynch? Were they trying to avoid a roleblock on their kill? Either way the roleblocker is dieing and you would have relatively little suspicion on yourself. It seems like a rookie mistake that a person who has never been a SK would make.

Why are you voting Thor? Do you think that Mafia would have a watcher and a voyeur? What part of his plan don't you believe? I am just asking all of these question because it seems highly likely that you are the SK unless both you and David were targets of the SK.

The SK must have tried to kill me on Night 3 because that is the night when everyone was one me and there still wasn't an SK kill unless the SK is not compulsive.

I feel like you're one of the newest players in this game, so you can't go around saying that sk must be inexperienced because of these mistakes, and then not include yourself in inexperienced suspects.

omg i play mafia on another site and i know how sk works am i confirmed town?

[redFF]

so then you are suggesting that i'm unintelligent. D:

[redFF]

hey i still don't like epm at all but im probably gonna hammer. ill wait for dx to check in and claim first tho.

[redFF]

kk hammering

i advise we look at epm
VOTE: davidxanatos

[redFF]

OVERSOUL IF YOU DON'T TELL US HOW EPM IS TOWN IM GETTING HIM LYNCHED.

[redFF]

because he hasnt done jack shit all game and has rode off os calling him confirmed town with no reasoning.

[redFF]

this was actually the first or second game i joined I think.

Oversoul & Mastin: Can you ask any Tracker to come out, please.

don't really like this

[redFF]

VOTE: epm

why has this "confirmed town" not been nk'd yet. this shit is ridiculous.

[redFF]

yeah we should mass claim

[redFF]

alright nobody hammer yet

VT

[redFF]

4. Thor665

Lady Lambadelta

BomberMan

YO DAWG I HERD YOU LIKE REPLACEMENTS

[redFF]

wait what

[redFF]

so oversoul is vt??

[redFF]

wait so now os is confirmed liar

[redFF]

sorry but why the fuck have we been wifoming around who the tracker is for 2/3 days for no fucking reason?

[redFF]

please explain to me why sk/townie/scum neighborhood is unlikely.

oversoul please explain why you can't be sk.

[redFF]

epm results please

[redFF]

lololninjalolol

[redFF]

are you suggesting that mafia shot one of their own players?
is it even possible to do that?

[redFF]

please explain to me why sk/townie/scum neighborhood is unlikely.

oversoul please explain why you can't be sk.

You're so dumb.

that's rich coming from you bro

[redFF]

why hasn't os been nk'd yet.

[redFF]

and you are not confirmed town

[redFF]

you are practically confirmed not scum, that is all.

[redFF]

why hasn't os been nk'd yet.

This is the type of WIFOM inducing content I expect from scum.

im scum now?

[redFF]

yes

i was implying that you now thought i was sk/mafia because you just called me town.

[redFF]

meh town don't go around belittling people they think are town, plus you lied for far longer than necessary and only told the "truth" when the tracker caught you in the lie. You kept us wifoming around who the tracker was for days and your play since fakeclaiming has been pretty much just shitting all over anyone who doesn't agree with you followed by lynching townies.

VOTE: oversoul

[redFF]

K

[redFF]

meh town don't go around belittling people they think are town, plus you lied for far longer than necessary and only told the "truth" when the tracker caught you in the lie. You kept us wifoming around who the tracker was for days and your play since fakeclaiming has been pretty much just shitting all over anyone who doesn't agree with you followed by lynching townies.

VOTE: oversoul

You are seriously retarded. Not listening to anymore drivel that comes out of your mouth.

What lie has the fucking tracker caught me in? NONE BECAUSE HE FUCKING TRACKED ME AND SAW THAT I WENT NOWHERE. We collectively decided to try and WIFOM people to see if any eager scum/SK would try and claim it, but Thor and Empking started their whole "Tracker is scum business" which probably scared away the person.

You can let your vote rot on me, it is only a testament to your playing ability.

why would an eager scum/sk claim tracker if one was confirmed to be in the game and they would just be counterclaimed?

[redFF]

i believe this is the hammer
UNVOTE:
VOTE: fatlikepig

[redFF]

honestly read the thread all ive been is transparent town.

[redFF]

i still dont see why oversoul is town. but since we have 1 scum and 5 town, we have some time to kill. 6p today lynch someone, 4p tomorrow nolynch, and then 3p.

i still don't see how oversoul is conf town. Doesn't a neighborhood with scum/sk/town make sense? also a neighborhood full of scum is kind of contradictory, you know what else contradicts, OXYMORONS.

that said i dont think anyone is going to lynch oversoul lol.

so with that VOTE: empking

he hasnt done jack shit all game and is my no1 choice for sk because apparently im an idiot for suspecting oversoul. mastin is weird too, he found scum but hes sk so hes perfectly fine doing that. his sk hunting since the scum all died has been nonexistant and unsuccessful.

[redFF]

oversoul could you post all of epm's tracks?

[redFF]

thor what do you think of a scum/sk/town neighborhood.

[redFF]

who said anything bout framing?

[redFF]

but the tracker never claimed a track on me?

[redFF]

meh the tracker didn't see me go anywhere so we're back to square 1.

[redFF]

or we could have a ninja

[redFF]

What kind of sense does it make to include an SK in a neighborhood with a Jailkeeper, Tracker, and a Mafia Goon? None.

not much, you could even say it's an









OXYMORON

[redFF]

what in the actual fuck

[redFF]

if that was posted by anyone else...

[redFF]

...

THIS GAME

[redFF]

@mastin-not really.

Do i trust you to be able to pull off a win in LYLO? yes

Do I trust that you are town? no

[redFF]

well im not SK lol

[redFF]

mastin or emp is the sk. I'm unsure of who.

[redFF]

whaddya think about me?

[redFF]

mastin's bullshit is bullshit, but it strikes me as odd considering if he was sk he could very easily ride out mine and emp's mislynch to win the game.

so i think he's town.

[redFF]

so please, if you guys do lynch me, lynch empking tommorow.

[redFF]

mastin, from what I know about you, you don't have this much trouble pointing fingers.

I know.

But I've explained it as best as I can.

I can't say it.
Normally, I'd have confidence. And logically, I should be following what I know the evidence is telling me. No hesitation.

...But for

this

?
...I can't do that. It's like I said. It's sort-of Sexy Sedilla, only...inverted. Instead of being mortified at being wrong about a scumread (Ludi), I'm horrified at the possibility of being right about this SK-read.

I can't say it any better than that. I really can't; this is a new feeling for me. I've never had it before, and quite frankly, I never want to have it again.

It's almost like you're trying to draw out the SK and make them slip (which, while a valid exercise, just isn't your style).

Close but not quite. Nothing the SK could say would make them any more or less suspect in my mind. It's more like what the SK will DO.

It's...frustrating. To no end. Not being able to express it. To have something which is...not something I am familiar with, not something I am comfortable with, but which I have nonetheless. I've never been here before. And...well, it sucks.

The fuck? Just tell us who you think the SK is and we will lynch him.

[redFF]

mastin could you tell us your read, since Im town id like to know how my flip confirms your read.

[redFF]

honestly we should lynch empking today and then mastin.

[redFF]

because empking hasn't done jack shit all game.

I want mastin to come clean with us first though.

[redFF]

jesus christ

[redFF]

I'VE BEEN SAYING FOR DAYS OVERSOUL IS SCUM

THANK YOU MASTIN FOR CONFIRMING THAT EITHER

A) I'M NOT CRAZY
B) I'M JUST AS CRAZY AS YOU.

BOTH ARE FINE

VOTE: oversoul

[redFF]

NO. No one is voting me until I have a fucking chance to explain me. Mastin and redFF FUCKING UNVOTE NOW. I have my right to fucking give my own case and prove that I cannot be the SK. I am not going to be quick hammered.

wtf is this post

[redFF]

Yeh empking is worse than mastin. tommorow should be interesting!

VOTE: empking

[redFF]

also oversoul you can't use the fact that you found scum as reason for you to be town when we're hunting for sks.

[redFF]

I'm not sheeping his read...
I'm casting doubt because im trying to find the sk..

[redFF]

I've been suspicious of empking longer ago than oversoul's post was made...

[redFF]

STOP

[redFF]

HAMMERTIME

[redFF]

[redFF]

Alright. I'll humor you and for a moment, assume that you're not the SK.

That we are going into night.

And you-know-who dies tonight.


In 4P mylo, I'd advise against the usual auto-hammer-no-lynch. I'll explain if we get there. (And that's a huge "if".)

ok

[redFF]

im honestly a little lost. im busy atm but im going to reread sometime this week as im pretty much free all week starting tomorrow.

[redFF]

to answer your question mastin, im suspicious of everyone and i have no idea who the sk is, hence the reread.

[redFF]

oversoul isn't confirmed town.

[redFF]

What do you think about redFF falling for my trap when I said that the SK was too stupid to shoot Pine and he took offence to it?

this is enough for me. oversoul is scum, we can nolynch or lynch I don't really mind.

[redFF]

"fell for my trap" hes suggesting im scum but not being commital to it at all.

[redFF]

we're waiting on mastins amazing analysis.

[redFF]

could we have a second scum? can scum shoot each other? this is important.

[redFF]

I mean, could we have one mafia left and no sk?

[redFF]

well can mafia shoot their own member?

[redFF]

in this game I hammered ns the sk in lylo for a town win.