New York 138: OxyMoron Mafia :: Game Over!

Empking · Post Post #3 (isolation #0) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:09 am

/first

Also: We should mass claim.

Empking · Post Post #16 (isolation #1) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:44 am

We're skipping RQS and doing Empking's secret mass claim method.

Empking · Post Post #20 (isolation #2) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:00 am

mastin2 wrote:And some player-specific ones:
Empking, kcdaspot, Haylen, and JordanA24:
Why did you pre-in for this game?

I can't remember.

Empking · Post Post #23 (isolation #3) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:07 am

mastin2 wrote:I'm going to try something:

1: Why do you play Mafia?

2: How old are you?

3: How would you describe your general thought process?

4: What is your time-zone?

5: How do you approach unique problems in need of solution?

6: What is your favorite precious metal, and why?

7: How would you approach this game as town?
8: How would you approach this game as scum?

9: What is your gender?

10: Are you nervous?

11: What is your experience level?

12: What are your strongest emotions?

13: What's your general activity level?

14: What is your plan in this game?

15: Which do you prefer: RVS, RQS, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

16: Do you have a reputation? What for?

17: Do you prefer playing as town, scum, or other? (If Other, please explain.)

18: What are your favorite three roles?
19: What order are those favorite roles in?

20: What is your stance on lurkers?

21: How do you plan on catching scum?

22: What do these questions mean to you?

23: What is the airspeed velocity of a coconut-laden swallow?

24: You see someone waving their arms and directing you to go right. How do you respond?

Fun
18
Brilliant
GMT
Head On
Platinum because it shows your love.
Head on
Head on
Male
No
See join date
Happiness
Average
To win
Mass claim
No
Mafia Goon, VT, GF
Lynch
Mass claim
Nothing
African or european?
Keep on going
To win
Yes, its not fun otherwise

Empking · Post Post #27 (isolation #4) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:24 am

Oversoul; Am I right in thinking that you're pro massclaim.

Empking · Post Post #33 (isolation #5) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:35 am

Oversoul wrote:
mastin2 wrote:
Oversoul and Kcdaspot:
Please link me to one recently finished game as both alignments if possible.

I don't have one, unforunately.

I was a part of a perfect town win, though.

What would a massclaim do for us in a closed setup?

It'd allow us to win.

Empking · Post Post #35 (isolation #6) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:39 am

ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:
lewarcher82 requests replacement

Good going Mastin.

Empking · Post Post #39 (isolation #7) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:51 am

Estyn wrote:
Empking wrote:
Oversoul wrote:
mastin2 wrote:
Oversoul and Kcdaspot:
Please link me to one recently finished game as both alignments if possible.

I don't have one, unforunately.

I was a part of a perfect town win, though.

What would a massclaim do for us in a closed setup?

It'd allow us to win.

Who is us?

Mafia

Empking · Post Post #40 (isolation #8) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 9:52 am

NO! #@;/.! I meant town. Us is town.

Empking · Post Post #50 (isolation #9) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:07 am

Mastin; Why didn't you notice that I didn't answer one of your questions?

Empking · Post Post #54 (isolation #10) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:11 am

redFF wrote:Empking i did your survey <3

Thanks!

Empking · Post Post #56 (isolation #11) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:14 am

I like this flow. I hereby decide that we won't MC.

Empking · Post Post #65 (isolation #12) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:29 am

Oversoul wrote:
Estyn wrote:
Empking wrote:I like this flow. I hereby decide that we won't MC.

VT...oh wait you said won't

Something is not right here. You do this...

Estyn wrote:
Empking wrote:I like this flow. I hereby decide that we won't MC.

VT...oh wait you said won't

You do this... yet you
Estyn wrote:Is putting your reads out a good idea at this stage? I'm sure i read somewhere that telling your reads on people benefits scum more than town because it allows them to see if they are blending in well and potential night targets, afterall why would they NK someone who had been read to be scum

and yet you get mad at Mastin for doing this...

VOTE: Estyn

*facepalm*

Empking · Post Post #68 (isolation #13) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:32 am

Kcdaspot wrote:
Empking wrote:I like this flow. I hereby decide that we won't MC.

i think this is right...

Expand

Empking · Post Post #70 (isolation #14) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 10:41 am

Oversoul wrote:
Empking wrote:
Kcdaspot wrote:
Empking wrote:I like this flow. I hereby decide that we won't MC.

i think this is right...

Expand

Could say the same for you, Empking.

That wasn't a general or policy thing. I'm interested in Kc extending his point further.

Empking · Post Post #79 (isolation #15) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:01 am

Kcdaspot wrote:if MC comes into play again i'll explain but right now i think it's best to leave it be.

Vote: Kc tells

Empking · Post Post #84 (isolation #16) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:11 am

Estyn wrote:
Kcdaspot wrote:
Empking wrote:
Kcdaspot wrote:if MC comes into play again i'll explain but right now i think it's best to leave it be.

Vote: Kc tells

allright...

we all sent in 3 roles right?

our favorites?

what if we all got randomly assigned those?

all maf has to do is chose the non-scum role he/she submitted and play accordingly.

I doubt that happened, its a normal game not themed so a fair few roles wouldn't be able to fit the game well (I think)

Plus I don't see what difference it makes.

Empking · Post Post #90 (isolation #17) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 11:42 am

Fools: Can at least one of you get an avatar?

Empking · Post Post #104 (isolation #18) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:00 pm

Fool_Hardy wrote:
Johhog wrote:And btw, nice avatar... but what is it?

It's a haggis and he is wearing a top hat

That isnae a top hat laddy.

Empking · Post Post #120 (isolation #19) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:28 pm

Town
Estyn
Fool
Mastin
Joh
Oversoul
red
Vi

Null
Foolish
SP
Xeras

Scum
David
kc

Empking · Post Post #123 (isolation #20) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:39 pm

Johhog wrote:I'm not doing reads in pre-game, sorry. Don't think that pre-game is that much readable

100% town.

Empking · Post Post #126 (isolation #21) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:41 pm

Foolish Fool wrote:

Empking
if you're serious about this mass claim thing, why?

I've changed my mind but keeping scum off their toes is very important.

Empking · Post Post #128 (isolation #22) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 12:47 pm

Move FF to my town list.

Empking · Post Post #143 (isolation #23) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:45 pm

Vifam wrote:
Johhog wrote:I said I wasn't going to out any reads during pre-game, but I have to say that Vifam is darn scummy.

Good night.

Users browsing this forum: Foolish Fool, Johhog, redFF, SleepyKrew, Vifam, VinegarEater

You have time to explain yourself on that scumread.

+1

Empking · Post Post #146 (isolation #24) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:49 pm

We're not in RVS. We're in confirmation.

Oversoul; Already accusing people of lurking.

Empking · Post Post #153 (isolation #25) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:21 pm

redFF wrote:On other forums i've played on people don't really post town/mafia lists within the first few hours of the game.

Nor on this site.

Empking · Post Post #170 (isolation #26) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 3:47 pm

Over: SK or DX. Who's scummier?

Empking · Post Post #172 (isolation #27) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:01 pm

Over: Kc or DX. Who's scummier?

Empking · Post Post #174 (isolation #28) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 4:02 pm

Empking wrote:Over: Kc or DX. Who's scummier?

Empking · Post Post #184 (isolation #29) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 6:51 pm

9: What is your gender? Abstain

Wait?

Empking · Post Post #190 (isolation #30) » Mon Aug 01, 2011 8:47 pm

Xeras wrote:

I go left.

Don't buy it. You're on the scum pile now.

Empking · Post Post #231 (isolation #31) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 8:13 am

Secret Project wrote:
Estyn wrote:VT...

Estyn wrote:Stating your reads on each person and joke claiming are completely different things, i don't see the connection

1. Joke claiming? So you're NOT a VT?
2. I think the point was that claiming gives scum more useful NK information than stating reads.

Scum.

Empking · Post Post #243 (isolation #32) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:03 am

FH: Once day begins will your vote be completely arbitary?

Empking · Post Post #258 (isolation #33) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:30 am

Vifam wrote:
David Xanatos wrote:Just to speak as a Computer Engineering student, these forums (Not Mafiascum, but those based on the forum software) have a reasonably lengthy delay between someone actually logging out/closing the window, and the activity shown at the bottom. The actual amount of time varies, although typically it lies between 10 and 30 minutes before it will remove someone from the list.

Back to coursework.. if anyone can code Delphi, feel free to let me know.

PEdit: And you have nothing to prove that you did, in fact, copy that post.

Users browsing this forum: Allah, BS2000, Fool_Hardy, Foolish Fool, Jehova, Johhog, Vifam, Washington

What reason would I have to copy + paste his name into that post?

Also Empking also CONFIRMED that it was there.

I didn't see it. I just took you word for it (and I take the view now that both of you are telling the truth.)

Empking · Post Post #266 (isolation #34) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:47 am

This discussion is not fruitful.

Empking · Post Post #267 (isolation #35) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 10:47 am

redFF: What's your read on myself?

Empking · Post Post #304 (isolation #36) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:36 am

I have the third largest number of posts.

Empking · Post Post #309 (isolation #37) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 11:57 am

Yay, now we've finished that argument should we wait for the mod?

Empking · Post Post #340 (isolation #38) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:19 pm

Users browsing this forum: Empking, Johhog, redFF, Vifam

Empking · Post Post #341 (isolation #39) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 1:19 pm

Empking · Post Post #349 (isolation #40) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:25 pm

Bomberman wrote:Man, this game went and started without me.

Just a reminder that you're still supposed to answer the questions.

Empking · Post Post #359 (isolation #41) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 2:42 pm

Vote: David

Empking · Post Post #389 (isolation #42) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:13 pm

Kcdaspot wrote:
Bomberman wrote:Never seen a pre-game be 14 pages.

welcome to awesomeville.

For the fact, yes.

Empking · Post Post #397 (isolation #43) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:20 pm

David Xanatos wrote:FACTION.

Independents are not anti-town. They are independent. They may or may not be harmful to Town. (See Jester, Lyncher (No, this is not always anti-town.), Survivor, et cetera).

Serial Killers (the only independant allowed in LNs) are scum.

Empking · Post Post #403 (isolation #44) » Tue Aug 02, 2011 3:31 pm

Vi; Who bought up the independant thing?

Empking · Post Post #476 (isolation #45) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:08 am

Kc: Have we really not played beore? Boimber is a mild town read.

Empking · Post Post #487 (isolation #46) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 3:23 am

Empking wrote:Kc: Have we really not played beore? Boimber is a mild town read.

Wait I forgot BM was Mr. Indy. He's a mild scumread.

Empking · Post Post #538 (isolation #47) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:53 pm

Unvote, Vote: SP

Empking · Post Post #545 (isolation #48) » Wed Aug 03, 2011 1:21 pm

Xeras wrote:
Empking wrote:
Unvote, Vote: SP

I am not sure if I missed it, but why are you voting for Secret Project?

Rolefishing.

Empking · Post Post #738 (isolation #49) » Sat Aug 06, 2011 6:03 am

I'd like a VC tlo ground myself.

Empking · Post Post #745 (isolation #50) » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:03 am

Anyone up for quicklynch someone for the LOLs?

Empking · Post Post #748 (isolation #51) » Sat Aug 06, 2011 7:15 am

Unvote

Vote: Oversoul

Empking · Post Post #760 (isolation #52) » Sat Aug 06, 2011 1:48 pm

Why am I probably scum for that move?

Empking · Post Post #771 (isolation #53) » Mon Aug 08, 2011 5:15 am

Oversoul wrote:
And Empking, who the hell does a lynch for lols? You haven't really contributed and then you go and pull that move. But no, everyone finds you town...

This is scum whining if anybody is curious.

Empking · Post Post #800 (isolation #54) » Tue Aug 09, 2011 12:48 pm

Doen't look like a slip to me.

Empking · Post Post #812 (isolation #55) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 5:11 am

Quicklynching Oversoul doesn't look so bad now, does it?

Empking · Post Post #826 (isolation #56) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 3:17 pm

:post:

Empking · Post Post #838 (isolation #57) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:04 am

I rember being so so excited at the huges pre-game chat.

Empking · Post Post #843 (isolation #58) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 11:18 am

David Xanatos wrote:I'd like to table a motion that we suspend this game temporarily in order to replace everyone who's buggered off.

+1

Empking · Post Post #892 (isolation #59) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 8:53 pm

vote: joh

Empking · Post Post #899 (isolation #60) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:42 am

Who were you quoting?

Empking · Post Post #901 (isolation #61) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 4:52 am

Ah, the last place you'd look.

Empking · Post Post #904 (isolation #62) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 6:42 am

Hop: Since884

Empking · Post Post #906 (isolation #63) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 7:16 am

Empking wrote:Hop: Since 884

Empking · Sat Sep 03, 2011 10:45 pm

I'm ready to call X town.

Empking · Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:18 pm

↑ Johhog wrote:Xanatos? Why?

Red.

Empking · Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:28 pm

↑ Johhog wrote:Nah. I
think
there's a scum on my wagon, and I think [Red]'s the one.

So my edit is right, right?

Empking · Sat Sep 03, 2011 11:36 pm

"Nah. I think there's a scum on my wagon, and I think [Red]'s the one." is what you were saying.

Empking · Post Post #1029 (isolation #68) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 4:45 am

↑ redFF wrote:yes empking clearly picked up the thing that i cant talk about that makes xanatos town =D

Oh no, I'm just taking your word for it.

Empking · Post Post #1050 (isolation #69) » Mon Sep 05, 2011 8:53 am

OK. Everyone vote Johnog

NOW!

Empking · Post Post #1073 (isolation #70) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 1:34 pm

OK. Everyone vote Johnog

NOW!

Empking · Post Post #1105 (isolation #71) » Fri Sep 09, 2011 2:41 am

Is he dead yet?

Empking · Post Post #1145 (isolation #72) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 2:44 pm

Not funny.

Empking · Post Post #1151 (isolation #73) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:47 am

Empking · Post Post #1153 (isolation #74) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:59 am

↑ Johhog wrote:Empking, work on your attitude. It sucks to play in a game with you.

Why?

Empking · Post Post #1155 (isolation #75) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:03 am

↑ Johhog wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:OK. Everyone vote Johnog

NOW!

↑ Empking wrote:OK. Everyone vote Johnog

NOW!

↑ Empking wrote:Is he dead yet?

↑ Empking wrote:Not funny.

↑ Empking wrote:Woo!

↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Johhog wrote:Empking, work on your attitude. It sucks to play in a game with you.

Why?

The only things you've posted this week. You never gave any reasoning for your vote on me, and you voted me despite me being confirmed town.

You're not confirmed town.

Empking · Post Post #1158 (isolation #76) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:11 am

↑ Johhog wrote:How am I not? My claim was totally provable,

Yes in two nights time if you're not roleblocked.

Empking · Post Post #1160 (isolation #77) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:17 am

↑ Johhog wrote:You surprise me, Empking. I thought you was experienced?

I am. I'm also bored and somebody needed to be lynched. The softclaimer was better than anyone else.

Empking · Post Post #1180 (isolation #78) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:25 pm

Vote: LC

- If the mafia did their part then we should do the same.

Empking · Post Post #1182 (isolation #79) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:48 pm

Unvotete, Vote: Lew

Empking · Post Post #1184 (isolation #80) » Thu Sep 15, 2011 3:03 pm

↑ Ironhead wrote:coming so quickly after the night result was posted,[/wquote]

Really how is that null?

and seeming to know the reason for the NK choice. I had just assumed that the mafia targeted Estyn because they thought he was a threat;

Yes because a player going to be replaced is of great danger.

Empking · Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:43 am

↑ Otolia wrote:Can we have more infos on this lewarcher wagon ? I am ready to vote for him even without infos since he is not playing anymore

I

Empking · Fri Sep 16, 2011 10:43 am

↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Otolia wrote:Can we have more infos on this lewarcher wagon ? I am ready to vote for him even without infos since he is not playing anymore

I want everyone tol comment on this.

Empking · Post Post #1214 (isolation #83) » Sat Sep 17, 2011 5:57 am

↑ bvoigt wrote:After ISOing redFF, one thing I noticed was that his play has deteriorated as the game's gone along. He started off by answering the questions logically and actually using the shift key, and early in the game, had some decent analysis. But by the end of Day 1, he was posting one-liners in caps lock and obnoxious pictures. I'm not sure what this means exactly, though, because I could definitely see town just getting frustrated as the day went along.

It means he's probtown.

Empking · Post Post #1216 (isolation #84) » Sat Sep 17, 2011 6:11 am

But only town would be open about it.

Empking · Post Post #1218 (isolation #85) » Sat Sep 17, 2011 7:24 am

Scum fear the lynch more than town.

Empking · Post Post #1229 (isolation #86) » Sun Sep 18, 2011 7:09 am

He's probably mafia.

Empking · Post Post #1233 (isolation #87) » Sun Sep 18, 2011 9:06 am

↑ bvoigt wrote:Lew's replacement will need to claim immediately.

Why? They'll know what to claim so either you think its lynchable or you don't.

Empking · Mon Sep 19, 2011 12:17 pm

Hip:
1. Sorry
2. Claim as soon as you read this. We don't want it to stall again.

Empking · Post Post #1278 (isolation #89) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:38 pm

↑ hiplop wrote:I'm a mason with oversoul, hoppster and secret project, they aren't confirmed to me from what i can tell.

VT otherwise i guess

:blink:

Oh yeah. Sorry but we have to lynch you now

Empking · Post Post #1283 (isolation #90) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:50 pm

Oversoul, Hip, Hopp, Pacman scumteam? It'd require a gambit. Do you think they'd do that?

Empking · Post Post #1287 (isolation #91) » Mon Sep 19, 2011 1:55 pm

↑ Oversoul wrote:There is no townie reason that Hiplop would avoid the Neighborhood completely, out EVERYONE, and then buddy your shit.

Yes he's confirmed scum.

How are Hopp and Pac confirmed?

Empking · Post Post #1294 (isolation #92) » Fri Sep 23, 2011 7:57 am

Vote: Pac

Empking · Sat Sep 24, 2011 12:50 am

Unvote, Vote: Oto

Empking · Post Post #1320 (isolation #94) » Sat Sep 24, 2011 1:50 am

↑ David Xanatos wrote:VOTE: Oto

I may be missing something.. why are both Hoppster and EPM confirmed?

Oversoul wasn't killed N1 despite claiming to them.

Empking · Post Post #1325 (isolation #95) » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:20 am

Oto: I know you're on the site. Please post or as far as I'm concerned you're claiming scum.

Empking · Post Post #1327 (isolation #96) » Sat Sep 24, 2011 4:28 am

↑ Otolia wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:Oto: I know you're on the site. Please post or as far as I'm concerned you're claiming scum.

I am here, I will post but I don't like to claim this early.

[Insert DGB's Sig Here]

Empking · Wed Sep 28, 2011 10:01 am

Mod: If Hopp was a Neighbour would he flip as such?

Empking · Post Post #1359 (isolation #98) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 5:36 am

↑ redFF wrote:honestly mastin2 has done absolutely nothing this game, promised huge amounts of analysis and not delivered. People seem to be totally ignoring his lurking/non contribution and I don't understand.

so
VOTE: mastin2

We're waiting for Oversoul to tell us who the scum are.

Empking · Post Post #1361 (isolation #99) » Thu Sep 29, 2011 6:47 am

↑ redFF wrote:How was the day 1 mod disappearance not the mod's fault?

Different mods.

Empking · Fri Sep 30, 2011 5:08 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:Ya. That post, Ironhead. Kinda ruined my confidence in you.

WhaT CONFIDENCE?

Vote: Fat

Empking · Fri Sep 30, 2011 9:06 am

Iron head is town.

Cool reads too.

Empking · Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:28 am

Prododge

Empking · Sun Oct 02, 2011 10:29 am

My vote won't leave fat today.

Empking · Sun Oct 02, 2011 7:24 pm

↑ evilpacman18 wrote:God, I don't wanna read another 10 pages of "get replacements, waaaaaah" so will people please comment on Ironhead playing differently. I don't think different roles within town faction should change his playstyle as much as being a different faction this game would. There's no reason for it.

But it changes it and without examples of each you don't kbnow which one it is.

I'm pretty sure he's town, too.

Empking · Sun Oct 02, 2011 11:57 pm

↑ Oversoul wrote:For what reason, Emp?

Gut.

Empking · Wed Oct 05, 2011 4:09 am

OS; Vote.

Empking · Thu Oct 06, 2011 12:51 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:
↑ ObliviousDruidMuncher wrote:
Thor665 replaces Lady Lambadelta
Nobody Special replaces Vifam

All slots are now active. NOBODY REPLACE OUT.

You just accepted his replace in, why so harsh? He's not really THAT bad of a player.

Literally guffawed out loud.

Empking · Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:00 am

VOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Empking · Thu Oct 06, 2011 4:50 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Empking - who should I be voting and why? Should we lynch Mastin for being Mastin? That's usually not a terrible idea.

Fat is prob scum, so him. Plus he's a wagon (well two votes).

Empking · Sun Oct 09, 2011 6:27 am

Empking · Sun Oct 09, 2011 11:06 pm

Unvote, Vote: Iron

- Changed my mind about Fat, I don't think he's scum with anyone but Iron.

L-2, I think.

Empking · Sun Oct 16, 2011 1:41 am

↑ Xeras wrote:The only reason why I was thinking Busdriver, was because I was a pro town busdriver once. I managed to get the Godfather to kill himself, and the Serial Killer to kill himself. ^^

Busdrivers aren't normal.

Vote: Projectmatt

Empking · Wed Oct 19, 2011 1:58 am

Busdrivers are not allowed.

Vote: DX

Empking · Wed Oct 19, 2011 6:14 am

Self vote.

Empking · Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:16 pm

Unvote, Vote; Thor

- Don't buy the claim plus I was suspicious about Thor going "Wah the scum team is weak" but thought nothing of it since the scum team were all dead but that was before I (Mastin) noticed the slip in numbers.

Empking · Wed Oct 19, 2011 11:36 pm

↑ Oversoul wrote:Would the scum really have been able to no kill 2 nights in a row? That is unfair on the town's part.

No it isn't. Not even close.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:34 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:Empking, what do you think of the SK killing Pine?

Can you be more specific?

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 1:00 am

1. It was a bad kill possibly.
2. I'm voting Tghor cos he's scum.
3. Its feasible but Thor isn't confirmed Voyeur.
4. What plan?

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:39 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:I didn't mean plan, I meant claim. What part don't you believe of his action claim?

1. The Tracker mention. If we're only dealing with a SK then we should have some confirmed innocents from a tracker.
2. The whole claim seems unlikely considering the rest of the set up.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:59 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Oversoul wrote:I didn't mean plan, I meant claim. What part don't you believe of his action claim?

1. The Tracker mention. If we're only dealing with a SK then we should have some confirmed innocents from a tracker.
2. The whole claim seems unlikely considering the rest of the set up.

So I'm scum because I'm aware of an unrevealed role? All that does is strengthen the likelihood that if I am scum I'm PR scum - which then begs the question why I'd lie about any of my reveals which is the heart of your issue with me. So...

No because there clearly isn't a Tracker.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:07 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:So you'd like me to fish for a Tracker claim in order to verify myself? Because we could do that, but I see little gain in it at this juncture. Also, if I' scum, why would I play it that way? There was no heat on me and at *least* two lynches lined up in front of me - who am I fake-claiming to protect?

Yourself. You're the only one left, you have to play the long game. With two lynched lined up ahead of you then you can ride out suspicions about your role until its cemented in people'#s consciousness.

If we have a Tracker then I'd think that on balance they should probably claim.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:23 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Emp - ooooh, I just got confirmed by Oversoul - so if I'm scum he's scum with me, the head asplodes, eh?

No you haven't been?

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:25 am

Unvote, Vote: DX

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:29 am

Unvote, Vote; Thor

- You'd know when OS was RB'd cos Mafia roleblocked him.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:41 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:That's true, except I'm not Mafia, and this slot apparently didn't decide to call him out on the day it happened in order to protect scum he was fakeclaiming on and get the Gunsmith lynched?

Yes just like Pine didn't.

Empking · Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:55 am

You needed to be replaced then.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 1:30 am

So there's no Tracker and you lot still aren't voting Thor? (its been yonks since we asked for a Tracker claim.)

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:20 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:and there's a pretty solid pile of evidence that there isn't even mafia left alive. Whassup?

You told us that there was a Mafioso left alive.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:21 am

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:25 am

If there was a tracker and no Mafia then (presuming the SK was a Ninja) the only use from a Tracker would be confirming you. Since there's no Tracker claim its self-evident that there's no Tracker AKA you're a fakeclaimer AKA you're Mafia.

PEdit: No because you're hiding and trying to pretend you're all dead but you unluckily slipped.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:28 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:I unluckily slipped by claiming a fake PR who, if he never showed up, would put me at pretty much assured lynch in lylo?
Yeah, pull the other one, there's bells on it.

No you slipped up by claiming there were five Mafiosos.

If its lylo then you can just go "lol wifom scum tracker".

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 3:37 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Emp - I had a longer rebuttal, but I'm going to settle for making a raspberry noise instead. Let's point out one important facet here, there's no way you're getting me lynched today - but it would be exceedingly easy for me to get you lynched. So make a very nice, very pretty, very convincing 'This is why Thor is scum, Empking is sexy and brilliant, and everyone else is stupid' post and lay out the whole case.

Then go and actually start discussing the actual issues at hand today and stop wasting everyone's time.

Thor is claiming that there is a Tracker. There is no Tracker. Thor is scum.

Do you disagree with the first statement?
The second statement is obviously true. Unless you can give a reason why any Tracker should hide away?
Do you think there's a problem from getting the third statement from the first and second?

The knowledge only Mafia would have (the secret fifth member) and the basic scum posturing (your last post) are unimportant to the basic fact that you are a confirmed lying fakeclaimer.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:26 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:Excellent, now what are your reads for SK since I'm confirmed not SK and we are looking for an SK at the moment - do you support the David lynch off the JK, also, what's your read on mastin?

Yes I support the DX SK, hence my former vote.
Mastin is clearly town.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 4:58 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:Why is mastin clearly town?
Why do you think DX SK tried to kill you?

He's not Mafia (obv) or SK (obv).
No clue and I can't remember that far ago.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 5:44 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:If it's so obvious can't you just tell me? Otherwise I'm going to lynch him, and that would be bad I understand.

If there's a Mafia left it has to be you. DX is the Serial Killer.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:19 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Emp - why is mastin obv. town?

Because he isn't scum.

Empking · Sat Oct 22, 2011 8:38 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Thor665 wrote:If it's so obvious can't you just tell me? Otherwise I'm going to lynch him, and that would be bad I understand.

If there's a Mafia left it has to be you. DX is the Serial Killer.

Voyeur and Watcher? That seems a little... iffy for the Mafia.

I haven't seen Empking play like this before. O_o

Voyeur is a fakeclaim. Nobody is suggesting that Thor is a Mafia Voyeur other than those putting it up as a strawman. I said myself that if there was a Tracker Thor would be confirmed town.

Empking · Tue Oct 25, 2011 10:35 pm

Vote: NS

Empking · Thu Oct 27, 2011 8:53 am

Oversoul & Mastin: Can you ask any Tracker to come out, please.

Empking · Fri Oct 28, 2011 1:15 am

↑ mastin2 wrote:We did. Earlier. We got nothing.

Unless you're going for a Tracker SK (To which: No.)

Unvote, Vote; Thor

Empking · Fri Oct 28, 2011 10:58 pm

↑ fatlikepig wrote:It's unlikely, but not unlikely enough that I'd risk lynching a Town PR on it.

Town useless PR.

Empking · Fri Oct 28, 2011 11:05 pm

↑ fatlikepig wrote:How is he useless?

How is it use

ful

?

Empking · Sat Oct 29, 2011 10:38 am

↑ Nobody Special wrote:I'm curious why you asked this of those two players, specifically.

They're leading the town.

Empking · Sun Oct 30, 2011 1:22 am

↑ Nobody Special wrote:Well, sad to say, but the game isn't broken (yet).

Well it is since Thor is the last one left and he's caught and tied up.

Empking · Sun Oct 30, 2011 4:55 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Nobody Special wrote:Well, sad to say, but the game isn't broken (yet).

Well it is since Thor is the last one left and he's caught and tied up.

You're giving me more town vibes by becoming active. Empking, why don't you post like this all the time?

Is your only reason that you think Thor is scum because he has that tracker?

Its the only reason that matters. (if there isn't a Tracker then he's scum if there is then he's town.)

Empking · Mon Oct 31, 2011 9:28 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:I don't think Commuters are even Normal...

Its not banned.

Empking · Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:07 pm

Can I just clarify for a moment; Thor is nigh confirmed scum and we're lynching Fat for the lulz.

Empking · Tue Nov 01, 2011 10:59 pm

Planbning on voting Fat.

Empking · Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:15 am

So we caught scum because you guessed right?

Empking · Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:40 am

What's ambigious about my post?

Unvote, Vote: NS

Empking · Wed Nov 02, 2011 1:50 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:I'm not in your head dude ._.You said that Thor is confirmed scum and now you are voting NS

Thore, the confirmed liar, was confirmed scum. I couldn't have predicted the neighbours would go "lol lol not claiming for lol lol"

Empking · Fri Nov 04, 2011 4:58 am

↑ fatlikepig wrote:So I see NS is still alive.

Why?

A better question has never been asked.

Empking · Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:44 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@fat - claim targets please.

Seriously people, why was this not already pressed?

Because commuters don't have targets.

/the more you know

Empking · Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:59 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:@Emp - why do you think people should have a town read on you? Have you done much of anything to promote solid scumhunting in your opinion?

Loads of it.

Empking · Sat Nov 05, 2011 2:19 am

Town

1. Empking
2. mastin2
4. Thor665
5. Oversoul
7. evilpacman18

Possible scum

3. Nobody Special
8. redFF
...6. fatlikepig LTP Mafia

Empking · Sat Nov 05, 2011 5:40 am

Unvote, Vote; Fat

Empking · Tue Nov 08, 2011 1:24 pm

Vote: Red

Empking · Wed Nov 09, 2011 2:36 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:One for Empking is his constant plea to vote Thor. A clever SK would know that calling someone who is obviously not scum, scum for having more information on an unoutted powerrole would surely force the unclaimed and unoutted power role to claim to prevent a lynch on obvious town.

He was obviously not scum from your POV because you were hiding the Tracker.

Empking · Wed Nov 09, 2011 3:16 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Oversoul wrote:One for Empking is his constant plea to vote Thor. A clever SK would know that calling someone who is obviously not scum, scum for having more information on an unoutted powerrole would surely force the unclaimed and unoutted power role to claim to prevent a lynch on obvious town.

He was obviously not scum from your POV because you were hiding the Tracker.

I know that. I never thought that Thor was scum, I thought your constant "Thor is scum because there obviously is not a tracker" was a gambit because you knew the tracker would not let a confirmed town be lynch simply because they (the tracker) hasn't claimed.

Yes but you can't hold the fact that Thor "is obviously not scum," from your POV against me because I was not hiding the Tracker so obviously he was obviously scum to me.

Empking · Thu Nov 10, 2011 6:05 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Oversoul wrote:One for Empking is his constant plea to vote Thor. A clever SK would know that calling someone who is obviously not scum, scum for having more information on an unoutted powerrole would surely force the unclaimed and unoutted power role to claim to prevent a lynch on obvious town.

He was obviously not scum from your POV because you were hiding the Tracker.

I know that. I never thought that Thor was scum, I thought your constant "Thor is scum because there obviously is not a tracker" was a gambit because you knew the tracker would not let a confirmed town be lynch simply because they (the tracker) hasn't claimed.

Yes but you can't hold the fact that Thor "is obviously not scum," from your POV against me because I was not hiding the Tracker so obviously he was obviously scum to me.

Or that is what you want us to think so that it justifies your rolefishing and scum calling accusations. WIFOM surrounds that entire situation.

No. No. No.

You think I'm secretly a Neighbour who knew Evil's role?

Empking · Thu Nov 10, 2011 10:17 am

↑ Thor665 wrote:Why not mastin then Emp? I'm actually pretty neutral on the Emp case too, frankly.

You really shouldn't be neutral on a case that (unbiasedly) amounts to "He didn't have secret info." (Any idea that the SK, who is obviously a Tracker, was all that fussed about the identity of the Tracker is utterly farcical.)

Empking · Fri Nov 11, 2011 2:39 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:Mastin...

for fuck sake man. UNVOTE: I need time to think about this and its implications. How long have you been thinking about this? I need actual game days or real life days in order to fully consider your accusation.

Really?

Also, no such thing as a town slip. No such thing.

Empking · Fri Nov 11, 2011 4:11 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:
↑ Empking wrote:
↑ Oversoul wrote:Mastin...

for fuck sake man. UNVOTE: I need time to think about this and its implications. How long have you been thinking about this? I need actual game days or real life days in order to fully consider your accusation.

Really?

Also, no such thing as a town slip. No such thing.

What? I don't understand this post.

The second is unrelated to the first.

Empking · Fri Nov 11, 2011 5:24 am

OK the second bit is very subtle by "Also, no such thing as a town slip. No such thing." I meant: Also, no such thing as a town slip. No such thing.

Empking · Fri Nov 11, 2011 12:49 pm

Oversoul: What happened to Red.

Unvote, Vote: Over

- Yeah, ridiculous panic especially when he made it obvious that he thought the case on him might be correct.

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:34 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:Empking, I already explained why not redFF. And I swear after all I have done for this fucking town.

Where?

...Something which doesn't seem like a Serial Killer could even make.

Would you mind confirming for me that you know that's nonsense, Mastin.

Mastin: OS' reaction to you was to react as if there was new info he had to consider. If he was town he'd know your case was wrong, he wouldn't need to give it much thought. He certainly wouldn't unvote in response.

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 7:35 am

↑ mastin2 wrote:
Empking wrote:Mastin: OS' reaction to you was to react as if there was new info he had to consider.
There was.

He was voting redFF.

redFF did something which he needed to consider (voting him), and there was a massive case from me against him.
This changed his reads on both of us, making redFF look more town and me considerably less.

Gosh, no wonder he was lost for words. [/sarcasm]

You voiced as far as I can tell absolutely no Oversoul suspicion prior to 2057. By which point, he was launching a counter-wagon on you. You seem to display the very same panic you accuse Oversoul of, in fact.

That's stupid. You think I panicced because a single player voted that's absurd. And you know you only think it looks like panic because I mentioned "panic" in my post. Its silly.

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:12 am

↑ mastin2 wrote:I could also counter-argue that the reason you mentioned panic in your post is because you were panicked and the word popped into your mind due to that.

No, you should only argue that if you think its true. You can counter-argue whatever you like.

Mastin; Are you honestly saying that post 2056 looks like it'd cause panic, really?

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:32 am

↑ mastin2 wrote:(At Empking)
2056?
No.

Not by itself, anyway.

2054? When combined with 2056?

Oh, heck yes.

It was stunning. It was unexpected. Nobody saw it coming.
Yeah, I can see why it would cause panic.

The funny thing is, you're not even denying it is panic.

Did 2054 even mention me?

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:46 am

↑ Nobody Special wrote:Are you even
reading
anymore?

Obviously. Otherwise I couldn't make such pertinent replies.

Empking · Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:59 am

↑ Nobody Special wrote:
Empking wrote:
↑ Nobody Special wrote:Are you even
reading
anymore?

Obviously. Otherwise I couldn't make such pertinent replies.
If you're reading, how can you honestly ask whether 2054 mentioned you?

Oh I didn't read that.

Empking · Mon Nov 14, 2011 5:56 am

↑ Oversoul wrote:Somebody lynch him, please. His reaction is a fail.

What reaction?
Why is it fail?

Empking · Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:39 pm

The lack of anything confirms Oversoul as scum BTW. Not sure why, just does.

Empking · Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:12 pm

↑ Nobody Special wrote:Emp's slip-up

u trolling

Empking · Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:25 pm

↑ Nobody Special wrote:Nope.

May I ask what the slip was? What was I trying to say when that slipped out?

Empking · Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:36 pm

↑ Nobody Special wrote:Here's you slip, and I wish I knew what you were trying to say.

That really doesn't look like a slip to me at all. Oh well.

Empking · Tue Nov 15, 2011 3:47 pm

↑ Nobody Special wrote:But you were caught NOT READING THE GAME.

Scum tend to not read as closely as they could. Or should.

It wasn't so much "caught" as being "completely frank about it". You don't learn much from the walls of Serial Killers as my old granddad used to say (I never knew what he really meant before today.)

Empking · Wed Nov 16, 2011 4:11 am

↑ mastin2 wrote:Pretty sure that's game.

Empking's acting like caught-scum.

Paraphrased, it's like he's literally saying, "Dang. I thought I had a chance. So, what was it that gave me away? *after reasons are given* I can't believe I was hammered over such poor reasoning!"

You realize that if I was scum I'd've claimed it rather than trying to hide it after I was hammered. I'm town with no real clue who the last scum is.