Execution Mafia: Days of the Cold War GAMEOVER

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Hey guys, I'm going to be reading.

Reads are going to be up before Sunday.

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Captain Corporal

ISO #8 : You telling us that you're a Town PR, but how do WE know you're actually a Doublevoter, Can you prove it to us with your double-shitton-voting-powers? You hadn't even voted yet, but you're claiming that. I find you pretty suspicious for claiming as the Leader yet you're not using your powers (Wisely).
ISO #20 : Then again, if you're confirmed town, why didn't you use your voting powers?
ISO #26 : Don't try to speculate the setups when there's obviously Heretic Witches and Vanilla Townies around. Stop trying it, you're just making yourself look like an idiot doing so. How would we know if there's a Roleblocker (Unless there's one)... Arrrgghh.
ISO #33 : I don't freaking care about your Breadcrumbs (It was complicated anyways), but you should have at least tested it for everyone to see (On someone who ain't going to be voted to be the Executioner), so we can actually prove something from your powers.

This guy's scummy for not really contributing anything in the game...
And I'd like some explanation on why Vezok and Cod are scum while SK and Quilford are potentionally town.

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CODFISH

ISO #2 : What makes you think Vezok is a VI Townie? VIs can be Town or scum...
ISO #4 : What makes you believe that Vezok shouldn't be elected? Why do you think he's scummy? Why do you think Quilford is scummy?
ISO #13 : How is it even possible that Vezok + Codfish Scum = Quil Scum?

...You're more focused on Quilford/Vezok (As scum) and yet, you provide no explanations on why Vezok is scum (Quilly is a Buddy Buddy Guy, I sorta understand).
This guy's More null, weakly town. I just don't like the fact that Codfish didn't argue/talk much against/about anyone else other than SK.

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FITZ

(Hey man! Wassup?)

ISO #1 : What makes you believe that Quilford is town, but shouldn't be elected as Executioner? I'm confused.
ISO #3 : Just voting for vezok because he would let the town (maybe scum) guide him towards executing people.

(We should ALL remember that Being the one whose executioner has to follow what the town got to say is something basic and should always be done, apparently.)

I don't like why you voted Vezok for this, Fitz. Is this like showing Vezok is town for doing this? Well, it's a very bad reason to do so.
ISO #5 : You're following along with everyone to vote on who should be the executioner during the Night. Isn't this just like following the leader of some sort? You haven't brought out any reads yet.
ISO #8 : What makes YOU think MOI should be elected as Night Executioner, other than Meta and previous games with him?
ISO #14 : Sort of like this post from Fitz.
ISO #21 : What made you believe Codfish was scum?

Fitz is mostly questioning people, and keeps saying "X is town/scum" while providing no infos or reasons for believing so. And when it came to the Night Executioning, it feels like he'll just go with the flow for every single vote.

Is Vezok town or scum to you, Fitz, and WHY?

...Fitz is scummy for me.

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ICEGUY

ISO #1 : Basically, his reads on people looks more like they're stripped from every other person's thoughts towards other, making it sound pretty unoriginal himself. I still don't exactly understand how Quilford is even town with his "Honesty", it makes him look like scum trying too hard with Caps to look town.

Most/Majority of his posts are mostly answering questions, which looks by far townie. I don't really think he's actually scumhunting, to be honest, because there's mostly answering questions towards SK and people...

He's more of a Null read.

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I would dayvig you if I had the ability. You've been pretty much worthless in this game IMO.

So you would Dayvig someone for being 'useless' and basically annoying you?

You know, a person like this could be actually town playing badly (Note: CC) 'cause they'll be trolling you much. But then again, worthless people have pros and cons to 'em anyways. '-'

Pros

- If you look town to them or you're pretty influential, they will vote with you.
- If you both have the same ideal person to execute, they will vote with you as well.
- Their votes (If most players are useless) are from a majority...
- Their votes can be useful sometimes

Cons

- Just like the first con; except it mostly involves you scum looking townie.
- They will mostly be alive around LYLO 'cause scum will be getting rid of the "Obvious" towns.
- They won't help the town and make it harder for town to actually find scum.
- If there are more useless players alive, a majority vote can get anyone screwed over.

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Then again, you should at least try to help out people by making them understand the situation and why Player X is scum.

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Then again, you should at least try to help out people by making them understand the situation and why Player X is scum.

Who are you addressing with this? It's hard to tell when you nest quotes and don't directly address players.

Sort of the general audience.
But somewhat more at Fitz.

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I still don't understand why Codfish is scummy.

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Quilly

ISO #0 : No, I don't like this post. Especially when it says he's town right in the first thing. Just no.
ISO #2 : I don't even understand. He says to kill Codfish because he offended Vezok of some sort. Egads.
ISO #8 : It still sounds like Quil is trying to defend Vezok, but in a minor way.
ISO #27 : Believes that Vezok is the best executioner without telling us why. WHY?

ISO #31 : "I DON'T KNOW, HE'S TOWN" (Vezok's Town?) = IMPLYING A BREADCRUMB OR A SCUMSLIP ON QUILFORD'S BEHALF.

Then he goes "OH LOOK, YOU'RE SCUM FOR TRYING TO FOCUS ON ME INSTEAD OF SOMETHING ELSE!" at Jason.
ISO #63 : MOI IS GOOD AS NIGHT EXECUTIONER... Without an explanation.
ISO #72 : Jason turns into Null-Scum. I don't even understand how Fitz got into Null-Scum in his list. I don't even...

Quilford, is using ATE jsut to make it sound like he's town (Capslock).
But I feel like he made a scumslip, and yet, he's acting pretty anti-town to me.
Quilford looks like scum.

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ISO #31 : "I DON'T KNOW, HE'S TOWN" (Vezok's Town?) = IMPLYING A BREADCRUMB OR A SCUMSLIP ON QUILFORD'S BEHALF.

I literally never said this. You've put in a comma and it's completely changed the meaning of the phrase.

'I DON'T KNOW HE'S TOWN' is trying to say what then? Are you trying to put "I DON'T KNOW (IF) HE'S TOWN" or "I DON'T KNOW HE'S (JUST) TOWN as in you think he's really town. Sounds scummy in one context. But sounds like a breadcrumb you know something about him.

ISO #27 : Believes that Vezok is the best executioner without telling us why. WHY?

I'm pretty sure I stated that he was the towniest out of anyone who had posted at that point...

I don't even... I'm pretty sure you just followed along with everyone to Vezok.

Quilford, is using ATE jsut to make it sound like he's town (Capslock).

How is capslock AtE.

The Swearing. You've been swearing apparently. (Bad quilly is bad.)

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So. Tragedy, you have 3 scumreads, 1 nullread, and one null-town read who's about to be executed?

I didn't get the know the part about the buddying with Codfish.
Until I completely read Quilford's Capslock posts towards him.
And the buddying part.

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1. I don't know (if) he's town. Aduh.
2. I placed the first vote on him and I point out that he was the towniest of anyone through that whole exchange several times in ISO.
3. Swearing is not AtE?

1. Then what is it supposed to mean?
2. Hmm.
3. Capsrage?

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Oh yeah, codfish is being executed.

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I would rather elect someone I trust than Quilford. The night executioner wouldn't have to listen to town consensus. That's why I want magna to be the night executioner rather than the day executioner.

Why doesn't the Night Executioner have to listen?

Refer to the previous Execution Mafia, SK.
Amrun (Mafia) was elected as Night Executioner and chose to kill VEZOK, though no one agreed for him to kill 'em. He was her "scumread", but killing before any claims isn't town, bro.

...

So MOI chose to kill Fitz, huh.

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vote Moi

I'm not going to support anyone else executioner unless it's me.

Why am I not open to discussion? I will vote someone if I feel they are giving strong town tells or are merely good at finding scum.

Also, my thoughts on that "Contradiction" that SK (VI) keeps rambling about.

A. The clear thought is that Vezok thinks that MOI is good at finding scum or/is giving out strong town tells... Which happens often, right? Right?
B. I didn't like (And just realized) That someone killed someone without even asking for claims. Ashat.

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B. I didn't like (And just realized) That someone killed someone without even asking for claims. Ashat.

Codfish hadn't posted in

days

. It was pretty obvious he wasn't going to be online to claim?

Well, there's that.
Then there's MOI.

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I voted for MOI.

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I found Fitz scummy.
But I wanted my questions answered (At the Least).
Then him flipping town and being executed at night which wasn't something I wasn't truly expecting (Especially when SK's on most people's SCUM LIST).
If it was 'faked', I would have at least EXPECTED Fitz to be executed in your hands, which I didn't. :/

But why'd you choose to kill Fitz, anwyays, MOI?

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Basically, I'm scummy because...
1) I failed to be descriptive with my reads.
2) Failed to post all my reads well
3) Because I had scum reads while I had terrible description along the way.

That's just being Neutral, not scummy, when it comes to being undescriptive about my reads. Hmmm.

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I answered MOI's question a few posts ago.

I found Fitz scummy.
But I wanted my questions answered (At the Least).
Then him flipping town and being executed at night which wasn't something I wasn't truly expecting (Especially when SK's on most people's SCUM LIST).
If it was 'faked', I would have at least EXPECTED Fitz to be executed in your hands, which I didn't. :/

But why'd you choose to kill Fitz, anwyays, MOI?

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Day Two started how long ago? Yah no.

PEDIT: Tragedy, I ask you again, what was faked?

My reaction towards Fitz being dead.

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Captain Corporal

: Based on seeing that Votecount (it only revealed 1 Vote), I assume that CC's Doublevoting powers aren't shown, unless Mod made a mod-error (Which I somewhat doubt). However, his non-contributions towards town makes it really strange enough for me to call him town, despite his role. Neutral unless we get somewhere with his role.

Cosca

: Although I like his case on Jason, I don't truly understand your reads at all. Especially for Zang, that "Scum doesn't try to exaggerate a push on somebody for a mislynch" and with Vezok's scum-read because "He just followed the town while he expected a mislynch". <- I think it was that meaning?

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[Ffff. Wasn't on for a few hours since I paused on trying to post, but my bitch laptop decided to freeze and hate me for life.]

implosion

: General town because he comments about other players with questions that helps town get a good read on other people.

Jason

: After reading Cosca's case on you, ISO #12 makes me want you dead because it sounds like you're trying to depend on a General town scumhunter to do mislynches for you instead of yourself trying to look town to scumhunt. Also, you're just focusing too much on relying MOI and Vezok that you couldn't even comment about other people for a town read (Especially Implosion). ISO #3 is trying to make Quilford look

real

bad. Scum.

MOI

: General Town Scumhunter with questions that helps town determine a good read on other people as well.

Quilford

: Seems to agree having MOI as Night Executioner without any comments towards him. Is he town, is he null? Thinks that Vezok's town for ONE comment, which sounds like he's trying to please the crowd. Null-Scum.

SK

: Pushing an execution towards a misrepresentation of a Contradiction towards Vezok sounds like a misguided town or a scum trying to push with misunderstandings. Votes for Quilford to get COD dead whose apparently buddying 'em, trying to look good from it. Scummy. (Btw, it's READING, not TRADING... Wait, what?) What was the point of claiming that you're a Power Role, I don't understand. You could either be town or scum PR.

Vezok

: ISO #1 makes me want to slap Vezok in the face. Sounds like trying to Please the town trying to think he's town like that. Barely any contributions or reasoning why X is town or scum (Ex: fatpig). Barely any discussion or arguments with anyone else during D1. Somewhat, I can understand how Vezok "slipped" through executing someone without contributing much to the town. Neutral-ish Scum, but more neutral.

Zang

: Seems to be town filled with opinions.

@MOI: It sounded more like a potential Scum PR trying to defend himself from being executed. Although he can be a town PR, I don't like SK himself. But that was your decision, so I can't disagree with your opinion on why he shouldn't have been killed then.

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I'm thinking elect me to kill Zang for the scum flip.

What makes you say that?

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Right now Tragedy seems to be playing her own game. It feels like she isn't playing the same game right now.

...Meaning? O.o

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Quil, my choice of execution isn't Vezok.
The order of preference is Jason, Quilford, SK then Vezok.

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^ No wait, I misread that list for a moment.
CC isn't leaning scum, he's null 'cause of his "DV" power.
Then MOI's town for me.

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@Zang: Out of curiosity, what got you into thinking Scumhunter's partially leaning scum with a post of his reads? >:O

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Tragedy
SCUM

Tragedy is like the only one I agree with.

Let's see how you guys are thinking...
> IMPLOSION/QUILFORD AGREES THAT I'M BEING UNCLEAR ABOUT MY READS.
> I FINISH MY READS (EXCEPT FOR SCUMHUNTER)
> THEN VEZOK AGREES THAT I'M SCUM (WITH NO EXPLANATION)
> THEN SK AND QUILFORD AGREES THAT I'M SCUM.

I don't see how your minds work, saying that I'm scum right away without a detailed case on myself. Am I missing something from here?

@MOI:

"What would be my scum motivation for specifically NOT asking to be Executioner?"

Sounds like scum would obviously know who's going to be misexecuted for the Day, thus, agreeing to a certain obviously townie that would always get mislynched/misexecuted, just like the others.

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> IMPLOSION/QUILFORD AGREES THAT I'M BEING UNCLEAR ABOUT MY READS.

This isn't the reason I'm suspicious of you. I'm suspicious of you because your scumhunting, for some reason, does not feel genuine.

Oh right...
But this is about Quilford too.

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Before we go through all these shenanigans, we would most likely elect a town player which we all agree to not execute for the Day, right?
Then I doubt that implosion would most likely be executed today, I guess.

Vote: Implosion

@Vezok: I want my question towards you answered by you.

3. MoI was showing much less activity then he usually was, and we called him out on that. After he made a content post, we retracted our suspicion and agreed this post was enough to satisfy our activity requirements.

Did you guys ever played with MOI before? I haven't. Your suspicion was solemnly based on MoI was lurking, which I usually find terrible as one.

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i cant tell if i already posted this but I mean to.

I`m a cop with a guilty on quilford.

Did you just Counterclaimed Scumhunter?

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Wait Quilford, you have

other

powers as a Miller?
Really?

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But I think Implosion would make the best choice of the executioner.
Zang would obviously kill SH or Quilford, while SH would want to kill Zang or MoI.
But Implosion should decide among Quilford or MoI, because... I don't know. It sounds too bias if you just let Zang/SH take care of the executions of their own Guilty Reports from 'em.
Yeah, Implosion should decide.

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So wait...
What was the exact point of claiming cop, so the real cop

would

come out?
I'm believin' you, but I'm a bit upset that you were trying to get us to vote for you as Executioner to execute MoI, out of

all

players, I'm not impressed, especially when he's your "Null" read. Hmm.

SK, stop

buddying

sucking up on MoI, even if you're on a Votin' Block with 'em.

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Well SK, although you only told that you were a PR, how the fuck could we confirm that you're totally town? Even I wouldn't pass the papers to you if I had 'em.
Quilford should send 'em to Zang or CC's replacement, I guess.

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I assume that Mafia's NKs are most likely just Executions, right?

SH: So wait, if you ended up with "Fake claiming cop", was that purposely a plan to actually make yourself "Too scummy to be scum", which would be damn accomplished right there? +Scumpoints.

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^ Sure. Just ask every one of my ex-girlfriends. Being a liar is a part of my personality. It's not a scum tell!!! LoL. But seriously I am town. Cmon now, I immediately called my cc real as soon as he claimed.

Does Real Life have to be involved into knowing your meta? Nope.

Trying to AtE into innocence by saying "I'M FUCKING TOWN" and whining about it won't do much shit at all. (Sorry Bros.)

In the previous Executioner Mafia, there wasn't really a Fake Claim for scums. Scum would just claim some PR instead of VT. Hmm.

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Hey Zang, notice all the other "scummy" players (i.e. Quilford, SK) are clamoring for the necessity of my execution today. Put 2 + 2 together please, why would it be such a fight for who is lynched today (me or Quilford) if we were both scum? Do what you must, still not scum here.

OH LOOK AT EVERY OTHER SCUMMY PLAYERS, THEY'RE TRYING TO GET ME EXECUTED!
WHY WOULD WE FIGHT OVER AN EXECUTION BETWEEN MYSELF AND QUILFORD IF WE'RE SCUM?
I'M STILL NOT SCUM.

Blatant Defense. Argh.

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I mean his defense is very terrible. Mhm.

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Well, use of wrong words gets it

all

wrong.

Where the hell is Jason?

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Cosca

: Town. He's definitely scumhunting. What caught my eye is the summary of ISO #41.

implosion

: Hmm. When he mentioned that he "Believed Quilford's Miller Claim", why is it believable, especially when Quil didn't claim D1?

Jason

: WTF Scum. Your theory on Quilford, if you look back at the first Execution Mafia, scum had the power to save their scumbuddy's own ass for one night.

MOI

: Still town. Zzz.

ML

: Confirmed (sort-of) town. Helpful town, too. Can't say much..ngh..

Quilford

: Oh yes, dear Quilford. Do you remember Faith + 1? You were scum. Remember those Caps Lock? Yes, you were raging to look like town. LIKE TOWN. I still think you're scum. Yes, I'm linking this because this is ALSO a scumplay from QUILFORD.

SH

: Damn scumtastic. It's pretty different from your play here, especially since I played terrible scum there xD. Then again, AtE just to live and such... Somewhat the other reason why I wouldn't want you dead 'cause you claimed VT, which most scum would be claiming a PR in this game instead.

SK

: Null. His recent posts made him look townier, making up for what the hell happened earlier. But the voting bloc with MOI is somewhat disturbing, if MOI's actually scum.

Vezok

: I'm thinking that he's scummy. He's been on the sidelines for awhile. I don't think he's really scum with Quilford, though it's more like he doesn't really react, instead he's more straightforward without an explanation..

Zang

: Town Cop.

..What a headache. So boring that I almost have nothing to do at all in the night most of the time... Man, I might not be able to post a lot for awhile (unless my sibling lets me borrow his/her laptop since mine needs to be fixed).

Zang

should be Night Executioner so he won't be executed at all by anyone else who would be elected as Night Executioner (Mainly Scum).

Quilford

should be executed

today

; Don't want scum to save his own scumbuddy's ass with a protection ability (Based on the first Execution Mafia).

Zzzzzzzzz.

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Since I believe Quilford is scum, It is my job to try and discredit his arguments and show him up as scum.

Doesn't mean you have to be a dick about it. Or disagree with every single thing he says.
For nut's sake, Jason, you're making yourself more scummier the way you're trying to 'discredit' Quil.

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^('.'v) Implosion.

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[quote="jasonT1981"Don't like Quil pushing Vezo saying he has made no content when he is one of the highest posters in the game. OK given, he slacked a little when he got the power. But still it is reaching.
[/quote]

Sounds like slight buddying to Vezok?
Highest poster =/= Qualitative Poster

Try again.

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hmmm, I wonder why no one has asked this yet.

Quilford, did you pass your papers last night?

Nope; good thing too considering after Zang's death I was going to pass them to ML.

Oh? You were assuming and depending so much on scum getting the NK, knowing that ML would be dead first thing in the Night?

Very

interesting.

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Assuming that majority vote is at implosion, will implosion come here and confirm his presence of being executioner?
If he denies so, then some of us are lying.

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Hi. ML gave a compelling case for why I'm town. Then he died. Town, you haz brains or no?

Town doesn't confirm town in a snap with a simple case.
But I still think Quilford should be dead right now, seriously.

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Most likely Town-

Magna
Implosion

Well, scumhunter
i guess magna and i are confirmed town, eh?

Do I need to say that just because Zang thinks you're town doesn't mean you're confirmed town? If he indeed checked you, and found out that you were town, then there's your confirmation.

Otherwise, no.

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wooooo I'm flipflopping so hard here

things that I am certain of:
Vezok is scum
implosion is town
SKrew is town

Woooo, people who thinks you're town is town to you.
Holy crap Quilford, can this get anymore scummier?

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2. That implosion isn’t lying about getting the Nightkill.

If implosion isn't lying about getting the Nightkill, then why the hell would he kill ML, out of all people, instead of SH or Quilford?

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If implosion isn't lying about getting the Nightkill, then why the hell would he kill ML, out of all people, instead of SH or Quilford?

It would mean that implosion is scum, obviously. I don't think it is a very likely scenario (as I have a pretty solid Town read hence my Execution support) but it is one possibility that is out there.

If so, then I would refuse to vote implosion now.

@Implosion: Why would you kill ML out of all people instead of SH/Quilford?

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Let's review the claims:
vezok - MoI
MoI - implosion
jasonT1981 - implosion
Quilford - implosion
Scumhunter - Medicated Lain
SleepyKrew - implosion
Cosca - implosion
implosion - Medicated Lain
Tragedy -

implosion

Cosca
Medicated Lain - dead

Now I'll be honest here. I actually voted for Cosca.

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3rd Party? That's not helping too much, but...
I fear that it's LYLO today.

I voted for

Cosca

once again.

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Please, we shouldn't be quick for fucking votes.
Or scum's going to get it and we lost even faster.

And I see that we should do a Mass Role Claim, right?

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Tragedy: Cosca
SK : Implosion
Cosca : Implosion
MOI :
Vezok :
Jason :
Quilford :

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And yes, I would like Jason's input of this game.
I feel that he's been disappearing, and I keep forgetting he's even in this game.

Especially when he's been V/LA most of the time due to his sickness, and we never got his input on SOMETHING.

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Nope.

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Can't do shit in the Night, SK. At all.

And oh fuck.

MoI = Scum = We all lost.

Jason/Quil/MoI scum...

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Tragedy and Cosca should feel really bad about themselves if they aren't scum. Which appears to be the case, because Quil basically claimed scum with MoI. Ah fuck.

Just me and Cosca? You don't have anything to be blamed of?

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GG.

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The only problem is, that at Lylo (Today), mafia would gain majority vote, since it requires 3 people.
Basically, end of game. No need to continue through Day 4. :X

I just realized that this Execution Mafia was slightly more imbalanced; I wonder why was a Third Party role in a game of Witches Vs Humans, I don't quite understand, really.

What if implosion won the game, would the game continue?

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Actually, to be honest, based on seeing that if implosion won, then it'd leave the point of Scum having more chances to win than Town would.
In all cases, it's more Scum sided, unless you get rid of implosion first.

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Well, if I ended up replacing scum, that'd be harsh and harder.
But at least that would have given me and scum a good head start, TBH.