Toy Story Mafia (Day 9)

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Vote: Beck

Let's go.

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They have a purpose; please answer them.

1] Why did you decide to give mafiascum a try?
2] How do you react to people attacking you?
3] What will you be known for in this game?
4] What is your time zone?
5] How frequently can we expect you to post?

@diddin: Since that one game that one time a while ago, I can't read you. How should I fix this problem?

1. I discovered Mafia on another forum and my friends there and I made a mass exidus to mafiascum after we heard it was the best site for mafia.
2. If they're attacking me for a reason, I should be able to defend myself. It's all my fault if they have a point, not theirs.
3. Concise and sarcastic posts, but with scumhunting.
4. US Central. I think that's GMT-6, right?
5. At least once a day, most likely more.

Are you talking about Cyclic? I was so protown that game man<_<. But I think I've become a little easier to read since then.

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Because no one is pressuring my second suspect.

Question to Kendall

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Why should I vote my top suspect, and not my second or third suspect?
What was your thoughts on tunneling again?

Terrible, terrible. Why would you vote someone you're less sure is scum than someone else. ESPECIALLY since the Umbrage wagon seems unpopular at this point. My theory is you're scum with bobsnox who doesn't want to bus but still suspects your partner for cred.

And I'm satisfying my own posting criteria that I have set and this game has been going for like what, three days? Yeah, don't badger people for not spamming the thread. Christ.

I think bobsnox = Jester, actually. Look, he's simply posting dumb things.

no you're wrong

Hey kendall, I and many others would appreciate it if you use capital letters.

Hiraki there's no need to be an asshole this game.

unvote, Vote: Flavour Analysis

Kendall wagon is bad. I just honestly don't see anything terribly bad she's doing other than annoyingly not using capitalization. From my experiences, noobscum like to lurk, stay under the radar, and draw as little suspicion to themselves as possible. Kendall is doing none of those things.

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I have already answered that question. I am not scum, but you voting me for connections is bad on D1. You haven't said anything else about my play, nor do you seem to care. You only stated about me asking for people to post.

And I will tell people to post if needed. It was simply a reminder, so deal with it.

No, I'm voting you for the scum logic behind voting your number 2 suspect.

Your telling people to post after a game has been going for THREE DAYS is asinine backseat moderating and probably you attempting to buy town cred, so deal with it.

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No, there was no scum logic. You don't have to always vote for your top suspect. >_> Stop being dumb please.

I don't do that to seem town. Stop bitching because I told you to post some damn content. Gotta make scum talk. AND I WILL DEAL WITH IT, BY CONTINUING TO PROD PEOPLE TO POST WHEN NEEDED.

I'm busy. I'm not on the computer 24/7 and am even MORE busy since Band Camp has started. If posting once a day isn't enough for you, then you have serious problems when I start school again.

The logic thing, let's put it into probability terms. Let's say you're betting on the chance two events would happen.

Event A has an 85% chance of happening.
Event B has a 60% chance of happening.

Why would you ever bet on B happening if A has a better chance of happening if there's equal reward (a scum flip)? Your attempt to sling mud on me by calling me stupid is also noted.

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Kendall is still scum. In my experience those who try to be aggressive town leaders, particularly early in the game, are scum.

Kendall wagon is bad. I just honestly don't see anything terribly bad she's doing other than annoyingly not using capitalization. From my experiences, noobscum like to lurk, stay under the radar, and draw as little suspicion to themselves as possible. Kendall is doing none of those things.

WIFOM. Bad diddin.

Glowball oozes town btw. Bobsnox is also scum, but I doubt he's on the same team as kendall. Everyone else is null and posting too much. Chill.

I love how you accuse me of WIFOM, and then use WIFOM of your own. Bad Umbrage.

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Kendall wagon is bad. I just honestly don't see anything terribly bad she's doing other than annoyingly not using capitalization. From my experiences, noobscum like to lurk, stay under the radar, and draw as little suspicion to themselves as possible. Kendall is doing none of those things.

Kendall is still scum. In my experience those who try to be aggressive town leaders, particularly early in the game, are scum.

Ok so the first quote is WIFOM, but the second quote isn't? They're practically using the same reasoning. So hypocrisy on Umbrage's part.

FA lynch doesn't look like it's happening today, so

Unvote, Vote: Umbrage

. Bobsnox is also a good wagon.

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Umbrage, do you think scum would attach themselves to their partners so much Day 1?

And also, I am saying that you're using something you called me out on as substance for an attack. Doesn't matter if it's the only tell, the point is you're being a hypocrite.

glowball: kendall. I've already said why I think the wagon stinks. I'd rather lynch a few select people on it.

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Umbrage
Ray
bobsnox

All need lynching, pronto.

Kendall replacing is null, that's terrible reasoning to incriminate someone as scum.

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EBWOP@Flavour: My reads are pretty much the same as mb's for those you asked about.

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SpyreX come vote Umbrage with us. You know you want to.

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I'd rather not lynch DonJosh yet because of the fact that he possibly flaked, and I wouldn't want to lynch, say, a Town Cop because they couldn't claim before their lynch. Umbrage is a safer choice.

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So much dissonance from the Ray Montano slot.

I'm 95% sure Rainbow is an alt.

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Beefster is town.

DJ wagon is kinda good, but filled with bad people.

Umbrage, you know kendall got replaced right?

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Why are people voting glowball?

I've got a plan for these minigames. Every day we decide who's the most town. They will be the ONLY PERSON to answer the quiz question, and therefore get the power by default. If anybody else ends up with the power, they are scum and hang. That way we almost ensure the power goes into town hands.

Hiraki's defense of Umbrage is scummy.

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I know how to get these powers into town hands.

Peregrine is scum. Lurking, followed by immediately snapping up the power? scum scum scum scum scum

unvote Vote: PeregrineV

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Unvote Vote: Umbrage

Peregrine can go later.

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he's helpful and I genuinely don't think he's scum.

I

OUTLINED

HOW HE ISN'T.

HE'S TUNNELED ON KENDALL ALL DAY BEFORE GOING TO OTHER PEOPLE HE PICKED OUT OF A HAT.

FFS.

Y U MAKE ME ANGRY

So you fucking outline a case on Ray in MASSIVE WALL form.

And then you discredit all legitimate attacks on Umbrage by calling him a VI.

Too bad you're scum this game Hiraki.

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unvote, Vote: DonJosh

So Beefster says people "running the game" are scum, yet only has one person trying to "run the game" on his scumlist. Wut. There goes my townread on him.

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Nobody. It's impossible for someone to control anyone else's vote barring odd roles, so no matter how hard people push a lynch, it could not happen without a majority.

My point is that you say on the post with your scumlist that people running the game are probably scum, but your scumlist only has one person I consider pushing a lynch HARD, Rainbowdash, while ignoring others like SpyreX and glowball. However, we did crosspost so I didn't get to see your post where you FoS'd Spyre, so my point is a little less valid.

You did OMGUS me though.

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Replace me

I can't stand one more fucking second of this piece of shit downtalking me.

Hmm, like you've downtalked people all game? I've had enough of your arrogant shit. I even remember when I had fun playing with you. Now it seems all you can do is be an asshole and replace from a game because people disagree with you. I almost want to lynch you to give the mod less work.

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You keep refusing to give me solid stances on why DJ wagon is bad, apparently given your last few posts its the early part of the wagon you dislike for the playerbase yet you continue to complain about the sheeping aspect of it. Which of the sheepers are scum?

What's wrong with gut? Seriously. I don't like the DonJosh wagon because I think DonJosh is town and there's nothing I see that can really be misconstrued for scum. The wagon on him is based on a few null tells and no actual scum tells.
If that isn't a solid stance, then what is?

Likely scum sheep: mb53, jmurph3, SodaSpirit.

Regarding sheep in general: I mean seriously, who of the DonJosh wagon actually agrees with the reasons?

I disagree, Fourseen is the most likely scum sheep in my book.

unvote Vote: Umbrage

PetroleumJelly is a good player and will likely contribute a lot. We may even let him join our alliance.

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well, shit.

unvote

More later.

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Hey guys. Glowball is scum. Think about it. Umbrage isn't a moron, he wouldn't just fakeclaim a random character and go O I HOPE NO TOWNIE IS THIS CHARACTER. You would have to be functionally retarded to do that. Glowball is scum with Umbrage, they have a pool of fakeclaims, and she "counter claimed" him for town cred.

Unvote, Vote: Glowball

Umbrage flipping Mafia also makes Hiraki/his replacement look terrible.

I HIGHLY doubt a double vig kill to whoever said that.

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unvote Vote: Hiraki/His Replacement

Glowball is town for now.

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Peregrine what did you do with your power god damnit.

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Flavour Analysis, if you are trying to breadcrumb Slinky Dog (by your constant alternating use of capitalizing S, D, S, D), claim it

now

. In your next post.

*bashes head against desk repeatedly*

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No, he's lurker scum and belongs on the death list.

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Nanook wagon sucks. So many better lurker lynches.

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The prize should go to me or SpyreX.

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The mod told me SpyreX is town so yes possibly him.

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Unvote Vote: FA

BUT WE DO NOT LYNCH UNTIL AFTER THE MINIGAME.

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Thought the watch was on the Bogre kill, which seemed to be more likely to be the scumkill.

Vote: DeathNote

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Yeah I think Soda got vigged. And I want to wait to see if there is a minigame today.

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EBWOP: Three overall across the first four game days.

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Christ people. But regardless Fourseen is caught scum. The monkey would not be pro-town

Unvote, Vote:Fourseen

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I'm talking about the Woody shit.

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meh, normally mafia have lookouts not watchers. Jusssayin

WHAT KIND OF SICK MAN SENDS BABIES TO FIGHT ME?

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So you faked watcher. And outed the vig. And then covered it up by guessing. There's no way you pulled BOTH the Binoculars and the Monkey out of your ass (don't take this out of context plz).

DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE DIE

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On another note... I start school again tomorrow. Which means I can't stalk the thread waiting for the minigame. Which means anyone who takes the power from me is SCUM.

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Fourseen claimed scum here:

We shouldn't lynch me we should lynch nanook or FA.

After posting this?

YES FA I do usually use my guts as my read, unless I am a PR informationist and can get results at night and such. However; In this case I did in fact use my gut.


Petroleum you are going to be so very sad.
I believe FA is scum, I also believe that spryex is scum.

Thinks SpyreX is scum, then does a 180 then latches onto Nanook? DIE.

This means Nanook is town.

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he's L-2. Tonight SpyreX dies.

DID YOU MISS THE PART WHERE THE MOD TOLD ME HE WAS TOWN LAST NIGHT OR SOMETHING?

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Nanook isn't scum, I'd rather go for jmurph.

unvote, Vote: jmurph

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Nanook isn't scum, I'd rather go for jmurph.

unvote, Vote: jmurph

QFT

Every post that included a vote for me doesn't even have a reason. I don't care what happened yesterday, but today if you want me to respond, give me something to respond to. Votes by themselves will not do it.

Aren't you a classy scummer? "YEAH THE COUNTERWAGON IS SCUMS GUIEZ NOT ME~"

VOTE: NTW

I don't buy it.

@Flavour:

Sup, bro? I'm working on a round of personalized questions so I can catch-up a little better. What're you up to?

Hi scum!

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Farside

: Jakalope, Nanook, Rainbow, you, and bob are scum.

CLAIM TIME. I'm actually a joat. I wouldn't have claimed 1 shot vig like that, but I was outed by Fourseen. >_> All my abilities are one shot.

Rainbow, I jail kept you. My options were: Rainbow, Jmurph, and Spy. Then narrowed it down to [Rainbow, Jmurph], and chose you. I was choosing suspects that were least suspicious, yet if I was wrong, you'd also be protected as a side effect.

Rainbow, how would you feel about being copped, or Nanook?

fuckin saw the JOAT claim A MILE AWAY

I don't really think Rainbow is telling the truth.

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Nah, I'm just almost certain there is at least 1 scum in your neighborhood.

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role stuff points against that

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Is bob seriously claiming Buzz Lightyear-Bulletproof? That would explain a lack of kill from the alien Vigs if the bobs kill was selected.

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Oh fuck. On one hand, there's probably scum in the Alien group, on the other hand, they're all townreads. But Nanook is the weakest townread of the three, so

Unvote, Vote: Nanook

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Oh fuck. On one hand, there's probably scum in the Alien group, on the other hand, they're all townreads. But Nanook is the weakest townread of the three, so

Unvote, Vote: Nanook

Why not Jakalope?

Role stuff tells me there's likely a scum neighbor.

Farside is a strong townread, RD a bit less so. Therefore, Nanook's the way to go.

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DIE JULSSCUM DIE

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Unvote, Vote: Juls

Acceptable shots are NANOOK, JMURPH, and THEJACKALOPE.

I'm not confirmed town, but I'm a strong townread for a lot of people.

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2.)

diddin, why are you forcing yourself to choose between voting three people you claim to have a townread on in Post 1665?

Let's just say that, knowing my role, it's not likely that all the neighbors are town. I'm 90% sure there's at least one scum amongst them.

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Inhim is slipping in my reads, I think he's trying to coast on the townread everyone had on kendall.

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Unvote, Vote: TheJakalope

Looks like if we're lynching someone who isn't an alien, it's gonna be Jak. I'm highly anticipating Juls's big post.

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Epic crosspost, holy crap.

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At L-3 I don't really wanna lynch, but if it will get you an a scum wagon, I support it.

Claim

: I am Rex, an Odd Night Hider. I can only hide on Nights like 1, 3, 5, 7, and so on.

I didn't hide behind anyone on night one because I recently replaced in and I didn't have any reads to base who to hide behind, and I couldn't hide last night.

HIDER IS SUCH A SCUMCLAIM. THE N1 EXCUSE SEEMS LIKE SCUM TOO. LYNCHLYNCHLYNCHLYNCHLYNCH

And bobs is probably scum with Jak who's looking to get "confirmed"

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Fuck it, Jak can go tomorrow.

unvote, Vote: Nanook

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Unvote, Vote: Oversoul

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It's starting to feel like this day is stagnating to me.

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First off, SpyreX is town you stupid cunts.

Second off, a fucking crumbed VT claim should NEVER EVER EVER be enough to stop a lynch.

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We should massclaim tomorrow, methinks.

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Enough with changing of the goddamn lynches, do we really wanna risk outing another PR today?

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WE MASSCLAIM TODAY, I'VE CRUMBED TOO MUCH FOR MY OWN GOOD.

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Rainbowdash Scum...... I'm starting to see it being possible. But we have bobs and kunkstar to lynch first.

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FUCKING PEOPLE NEED TO POST THIS IS WHY POPCORN CLAIMING SUCKS ETC ETC ETC

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There's no fucking way there are 8 Mafia in this setup.

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There's no fucking way there are 8 Mafia in this setup.

Going with what I'd played in before.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3085757

How many are there?

That's multiscum, meaning more killing and more opportunity for crosskills=more scum.

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First of all, wholey bugger, I'm so sorry. The blackouts last week fried my computer and I wasn't quite around over the weekend anyway, so it wasn't on my list of priorities to find a way to log in. I'm really sorry about that though, since obviously I should've...

SORRY MOD.

Second of all, I'm Bonnie, town (from Toy Story 3.

Third of all,

There's no fucking way there are 8 Mafia in this setup.

Going with what I'd played in before.

http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3085757

How many are there?

That's multiscum, meaning more killing and more opportunity for crosskills=more scum.

With three kills a night and only one accounted for town, how could you possibly assume that there's only one mafia group with limited mafia...

First off, Umbrage's flip does not look like a flip from a multiscum game. Second, the only night with three kills is last night, and Jak could've only died from hiding behind scum. If there's another scumteam, the Aliens are gambitting scum.

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Juls, you're putting all of your chips in one basket if you think ALL of the Aliens are scum. There is almost certainly at least one scum alien, for reasons I may claim if Ray doesn't get his ass in here soon. I'd rather lynch Peregrine or Juls tomorrow assuming both bobs and kunkstar flip scum.

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Pere gets lynched tomorrow. I have a feeling Juls won't comply to vengekilling Pere if we lynch her first.

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I want Peregrine's blood tomorrow, his last post makes it look like he knows bobsnox is BP mafia and wants him to eat an NK.

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Looking at the claims, how is there not a protective role in this game?

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Actually confScum bobs and kunkstar have no motive NOT to snatch up the prize now that they're confirmed scum, I'd rather lynch.

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Hammering before I go to bed unless there are any serious objections.

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THAT WAS MY HAMMER BITCH

Vote: Bobsnox

I AM CHARGED

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Finding the mafia is higher priority right now.

Vote: Kunkstar

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supported vigshots are peregrine/FA.

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Juls should die at night so we don't have to deal with that goddamn vengekill.

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Again, make q case. Don't PoE me, that is stupid. My play has been obvtown

People who say this are always fucking scum.

How is asking to INVESTIGATE A CLAIMED MASON obvtown? How is stealing a prize that we said would go to a crumbed mason obvtown?

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I didn't say to investigate a mason. And I did not realize there was a plan.

Ok, I got you confused with FA. You're definitely not obvtown though.

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With the blocker apparently dead RA should have a result.

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wait spyre why is FA town again?

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Vote: Rhinox

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You're a fucking idiot Juls.

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like seriously you think the Mod would give us BOTH Potato Heads as fakeclaims?

NOPE

Chuck Testa

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Damnit, now I'm uptight about the Juls lynch. On the chance that he IS town, he's gonna throw the game for us.

The fact that he ignored my proof and just flipped at me for the attack is a Scum reaction though. Any other input before I vote?

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I don't usually mess that up, but I will say my bad to that.

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No. PJ is the last scum.

Vote: PJ

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unvote

NOT REVOTING YET

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SPYREX HONEY WE NEED YOUR INPUT

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OK the two most probable options are:

1. Jmurph and FA are scum together. We lynch Murph today, FA tomorrow for the win.
2. PJ is last scum. Even if we lynch Jmurph and she flips town, PJ hangs tomorrow for the win.

If Jumurph is town, FA cannot be scum without the Mod being bastardly.

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ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED

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The scumteam cannot be FA/PJ without EXTREME bastard modding. Jmurph dies today.

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Vote: Jmurph3

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Crossvote you two.

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I AM ENDING THIS NOW.

Vote: Flavour Analysis

All logic points towards FAScum. Two Town JOATs? Unlikely. A missing kill N1 with only a JK alive? Unlikely.

Spyre and I made this decision together last night. Let's hope it's not wrong.

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Damn. Sorry I screwed up guys.

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Day 2 and Day 3 were absolute messes for Town. We lynch correctly on one of those days, we win.

I thought I played a good game despite screwing it up in the end, I was for once town before I had to claim Mason. Apologies to anyone who was offended by my asshole behavior, being ConfTown does that to me.

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FA, you played well. The simplest solution was just that you were scum.