Mini 1217 - Campaign Mafia (Game Over!)


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Post Post #783 (isolation #0) » Sat Sep 10, 2011 4:05 pm

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Maruchan wrote:Point to any other game of mafia where it is bad-form to elect yourself for the public election quickly.

owait.

THATS MECHANIC DEPENDANT
saywut?


In every other game of mafia, where the town is the uninformed majority and the mafia is the informed minority, depriving town of the ability to gather information or strategize or get reads.

Your play was equivalent to being a day vig and vigging someone in the first post of the game.

Secondly, at no point is it a good idea to perform any actions in a game without having read your role PM, because it is absolutely impossible for you to be playing to your win condition without it.
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Post Post #785 (isolation #1) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 4:12 am

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Shadow Dancer wrote:It makes perfectly sense for mafia to not read their role PM, magua. Good scum play simply means to blend in as townie perfectly - and not reading your role PM and hence being ignorant about who your partners are makes that a whole lot easier.


I'm aware of the Quagmire argument; I simply don't believe it. If you are bad enough as scum that you think not reading your Role PM will make you better scum, you'll be *twice* as obvious D2 when your (apparently transparent) behavior changes.

(Or to put it another way: if it were good play, everyone should do it. If everyone did it, would the game improve?)

Shadow Dancer wrote:Besids that maru's play was in no way equivalent to a post 1 dayvig.


How so? Srs question. He took an irreversible action when he had no information that deprived the town of information.

Shadow Dancer wrote:And besides, optimal control of information flow in a information based game always depends on which side has the initiative or can make the more educated decission, and inthis game it's alot about scum nominations which give scum the upper edge which is why town should play less open than normally.


The fact that there are times when it is a good idea for town to do things that deprive the rest of the town of information does not mean that every time this happens, it is a good idea.
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Post Post #797 (isolation #2) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 1:14 pm

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Shadow Dancer, you're agreeing with everything I'm saying, so I'm really curious as to why we're arguing.

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Post Post #799 (isolation #3) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 5:43 pm

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Maruchan wrote:everyone


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