Mini 1217 - Campaign Mafia (Game Over!)

Quilford · Post Post #8 (isolation #0) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:16 pm

VOTE: Timeater
What Maruchan did was both stupid and felt forced.

Quilford · Post Post #10 (isolation #1) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:19 pm

Maruchan wrote:now off to check my alignment

Maruchan, how did you realise the thread was open?

Quilford · Post Post #12 (isolation #2) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:22 pm

Packbat wrote:VOTE: Timeater

Maruchan did exactly the same thing -- forcing the pace of the game and costing town information -- as scum in Newbie 1122.

Link to the specific point in the game where this happened?

Quilford · Post Post #13 (isolation #3) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:24 pm

Maruchan wrote:I don't see how this is forced.

This was what sounded forced to me:

Maruchan wrote:now off to check my alignment

Also, Maruchan, when did you receive your Role PM and when did you receive the Thread Open PM?

Quilford · Post Post #14 (isolation #4) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:25 pm

Maruchan wrote:Besides, wouldn't it be in the better interests of the mafia to wait the full day-cycle before choosing which mafia player represents them? that way they can see who is the most town-looking mafia in the town's eyes, and make sure they are the elected party.

Why would the mafia want to not see how the public opinion is in reaction to them before volunteering?

This also applies to the town?

Quilford · Post Post #21 (isolation #5) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:28 pm

Quilford wrote:Also, Maruchan, when did you receive your Role PM and when did you receive the Thread Open PM?

Specific times, please.

Quilford · Post Post #22 (isolation #6) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:29 pm

Maruchan have you played Mafia on any other sites?

Quilford · Post Post #25 (isolation #7) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:30 pm

Crazy wrote:All townie PMs were sent at 57 minutes after the hour.

Damn you.

Quilford · Post Post #29 (isolation #8) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:33 pm

Maruchan wrote:
Quiliford wrote:Maruchan, how did you realise the thread was open?

Yes. I volunteered before I read my PM. therefore, my volunteering should not be conducive of my alignment. I had no idea my alignment when I volunteered. I had had this thread in an open tab since the day it was made, and refreshed it every 40 minutes for 12-14 hours a day. And have done the same since. I immediately saw the game was open and volunteered, THEN checked my PMs.

PEdit: I already answered your question I guess

I call bullshit. It's far more likely that you looked at the 'Thread Opening' PM (which was sent at 1:59pm) and then rushed on over to the thread than it was you just happened to refresh on the thread the instant it opened.

Quilford · Post Post #33 (isolation #9) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:34 pm

hiplop wrote:Bullshit. Mafia have the entire afternoon phase to talk.

This is also true.

Quilford · Post Post #35 (isolation #10) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:36 pm

Maruchan wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:
Maruchan wrote:Although now that I look back, I pretty much gave the town the win on a silver platter because timeater can not post a single word and he is still more likely to win.

Explain, please.

Apparently my opponent (I cba to open another new tab to re-get his name) gets 3 votes for just being my OPPONENT. If this isn't giving him the win on a silver platter, I don't know what is.

Maruchan wrote:Although now that I look back, I pretty much gave the town the win on a silver platter because timeater can not post a single word and he is still more likely to win.

Maruchan wrote:I pretty much gave the town the win on a silver platter

Maruchan wrote:the town

Quilford · Post Post #38 (isolation #11) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:37 pm

Is there any opposition to me nominating myself tomorrow, considering I should be basically confirmed town?

PEdit: Doesn't mean you were refreshing the wiki every 40 minutes?

Quilford · Post Post #44 (isolation #12) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:41 pm

hiplop wrote:VOTE: Maruchan

Temp vote, but its WAY too easy to lynch this guy; somethings up

lolno

It's way too easy to lynch him because he's scum. This couldn't have been a set-up by scum no matter whether he's scum or town because scum didn't get to talk until the afternoon, and he had already fucked up by then.

Quilford · Post Post #47 (isolation #13) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:42 pm

No; he voted for Maruchan, not Timeater.

It should be, though.

Quilford · Post Post #49 (isolation #14) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:43 pm

Pom I do not know why you are panicking considering after Evening we go straight back into Morning, ie no interruptions

Quilford · Post Post #50 (isolation #15) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:44 pm

Lurconis wrote:if he flips town, all of us who quick voted him, myself included, are scum sus and we should discuss it I feel. That is just my gut reaction anyway.

I don't think anyone here is suspicious if he flips town. Because I'm pretty sure ANYONE would vote for his opponent seeing what has developed here.

Quilford · Post Post #57 (isolation #16) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:50 pm

Pomegranate wrote:Also, I think no one should volunteer tomorrow until everyone in the game has had a chance to post.

Yeah, I'm not planning on volunteering immediately and we should definitely make nominations the responsibility of the town instead of the individual

i.e. the town decides on who to volunteer; anyone who volunteers themselves without the support of the town will find themselves very dead

Quilford · Post Post #60 (isolation #17) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:52 pm

Because it's goddamn

commonsense

. And obviously I won't nominate myself until the town is ready.

Quilford · Post Post #63 (isolation #18) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:54 pm

Maruchan if you thought that you would've said that when you nominated yourself.

Also neither you nor your opponent have a vote, check the VC

Quilford · Post Post #66 (isolation #19) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 3:57 pm

We don't know that you elected yourself before you knew your alignment!

And this is your own goddamn fault.

Quilford · Post Post #73 (isolation #20) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:05 pm

Okay, that clears up the timing shenanigans.

It doesn't clear up anything else.

Quilford · Post Post #78 (isolation #21) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:07 pm

...

So you admit it, then?

Quilford · Post Post #82 (isolation #22) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:15 pm

Maruchan wrote:I already answered this, I had good reasons for myself why it was good for town or for scum. If I had had to defend myself to scum in a QT, I would have sued the reason you're all using against me. it hampered town communication.

Whereas earlier you were saying it hampered scum communication.

WHICH IT DIDN'T.

Quilford · Post Post #85 (isolation #23) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:18 pm

Maru you are AtEing like hell here; also you're completely missing the point.

Let me find where you said that.

Quilford · Post Post #88 (isolation #24) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:19 pm

Fine whatever you said it costed the mafia. And now you're admitting it also costed the town.

Quilford · Post Post #89 (isolation #25) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:20 pm

It doesn't matter who you AtE.

Quilford · Post Post #91 (isolation #26) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:23 pm

It affects everyone, because everyone can see it!

Quilford · Post Post #103 (isolation #27) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:36 pm

Enough.

Quilford · Post Post #105 (isolation #28) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:40 pm

Quilford · Post Post #106 (isolation #29) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:40 pm

By the way, the way you feel the need to reinforce that you are town in every post does you no favour from me. And I was coming around, too.

Quilford · Post Post #110 (isolation #30) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:42 pm

Whatever.

Quilford · Post Post #112 (isolation #31) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:42 pm

I will be extremely annoyed if you flip town.

Quilford · Post Post #116 (isolation #32) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 4:45 pm

I was starting to come round because you were starting to sound town.

That's "sound" town, not "act like" town.

Quilford · Post Post #132 (isolation #33) » Wed Aug 10, 2011 10:33 pm

Don't vote the other guy, goddamnit; just unvote entirely.

Quilford · Post Post #137 (isolation #34) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 12:38 am

I think Johhog is also scum.

Quilford · Post Post #148 (isolation #35) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:05 am

That was not a hammer.

Quilford · Post Post #153 (isolation #36) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:16 am

So it was. I think you may be overreacting a little, though.

Quilford · Post Post #154 (isolation #37) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 1:16 am

Quilford wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:Also, I think no one should volunteer tomorrow until everyone in the game has had a chance to post.

Yeah, I'm not planning on volunteering immediately and we should definitely make nominations the responsibility of the town instead of the individual

i.e. the town decides on who to volunteer; anyone who volunteers themselves without the support of the town will find themselves very dead

Quilford · Post Post #210 (isolation #38) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:37 am

Based on Maruchan's flip, I'm leaning town on hiplop, Johhog, Lurconis and Pom and scum on Shadow Dancer and Twistedspoon.

I should be close to confirmed town for my post asking Maruchan for the timing of his Role PM, which at the time was something only a townie would know.

Quilford · Post Post #215 (isolation #39) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:46 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:Based on Maruchan's flip, I'm leaning town on hiplop, Johhog, Lurconis and Pom and scum on Shadow Dancer and Twistedspoon.

this makes sense how when pom was on the maru wagon? In fact, you were too

Twisted you're smart enough to know that town can be on a mislynch

Twistedspoon wrote:not liking you saying that you're confirmed town either. That's for us to decide, not you

See for yourself.

Twistedspoon wrote:but if you think you're so swish I have no objections to your nomination myself

Glad to hear it.

Quilford · Post Post #216 (isolation #40) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 10:48 am

Really not thinking twisted is town.

Compare his play in Open 318, please.

Quilford · Post Post #230 (isolation #41) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:27 pm

Twistedspoon wrote:let me be blunt

Quilford how do you say my play in that game is different to this one? And don't say you were more transparent because that means nothing and is exactly the sort of flimsy meta accusation I would expect scum to use.

all I'm asking you to do is explain you read on me

Screw that. You were more transparent. Your play in that game just rung town. Everything you said just sounded like it came from a genuinely townie perspective. I recommend everyone go read that game and compare.

Twistedspoon wrote:and the reason I found you "Welp I guess I'm conftown now. lol" post so scummy is because it's exactly the sort of self-preservation that i'd expect scum to use. Town modesty is a virtue. If you hadn't come along and said yu were confirmed town then that ironcally would have made you more town. It's only scum who have to flount their townieness. You weren't even in danger of the lynch/ext at this point so I saw no reason for it, and your baseless conjecture doesn't stand well with me either

It doesn't matter whether calling myself confirmed town is scummy or not, it matters why I'm calling myself confirmed town.

Quilford · Post Post #236 (isolation #42) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:45 pm

Crazy felt the need to actually post the timing...?

I have come up with a real accusation, and I do have other points that I am too lazy to post at this point, like the fact that what obviously happened was Twisted voted Maruchan for towncred and then immediately switched, quoting all previous reasoning and not even offering an original perspective on things, once he realised he had the hammer.

Quilford · Post Post #240 (isolation #43) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:55 pm

Twistedspoon wrote:
Johhog wrote:Lolno. Why would he be? He is one of the scummier in this game imo.

hmm

not sure if this is just the 'old quilford' playstyle though. I'll admit I'm unsure. I don't understand why he find you scummy

Did you just admit to not reading my posts? I'm pretty sure I list Johhog as town in the same post I list you as scum?

Twistedspoon wrote:I also think hiplop's last post could have included more. He seems to be avoiding taking a stance on many issues and reads, but maybe that's just his inactivity. Hvaen't seen any particularly strong tells either way, but I'm leaning town on him

Fencesitting.

Twistedspoon wrote:I still feel this game is incredibly scum-sided. imo scum should never have ~45% population as well as the advantage that they know each other and have a QT. I shall rant about this more at the endgame if we lose

Theory discussion.

Twistedspoon wrote:
Packbat wrote:
PEdit: I'll explain my reasoning on Lurconis in a bit - don't change the subject.

how about now? I don't want you to forget :/

Packbat wrote:
hiplop wrote:oh god. I forgot about this completely

Wouldn't a scummy player be better for the town? we want obv towns for end game dont we?

Good point - although we need to have a backup towny volunteer available, in case deadline looms and our scummy candidate concedes the case by refusing to self-nom.

it was my idea to keep the obvtownies for the end
but yeah, this looks the best plan

For some weird reason you guys are all overlooking the obvious fault in this plan which is that if we nominate who we think is obvtown the scum will nominate obvscum and vice versa?

Quilford · Post Post #241 (isolation #44) » Thu Aug 11, 2011 9:56 pm

Twistedspoon wrote:so? he said that wasn't indicative of alignment

Lies.

Twistedspoon wrote:or something like that

Backpedaling.

Quilford · Post Post #243 (isolation #45) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:38 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Twistedspoon wrote:
Johhog wrote:Lolno. Why would he be? He is one of the scummier in this game imo.

hmm

not sure if this is just the 'old quilford' playstyle though. I'll admit I'm unsure. I don't understand why he find you scummy

Did you just admit to not reading my posts? I'm pretty sure I list Johhog as town in the same post I list you as scum?

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3335109

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p3336752
Thanks for admitting it.

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:

Twistedspoon wrote:I also think hiplop's last post could have included more.
He seems to be avoiding taking a stance on many issues and reads,
but

maybe that's just his inactivity.
Hvaen't seen any particularly strong tells either way, but I'm leaning town on him

Fencesitting.

I'm weighing him up. if you don't have a nullish read on hiplop too, i'd be surprised. so don't call me out for fencesitting when it's only natural to have a nullish read on hiplop

Having a null read is not fence sitting. Saying the bold is fence sitting.

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Theory discussion.

so? I kept it brief and then continued to talk about the game afterwards. It's not like it ruined any momentum or was a focal point of mine

Quilford wrote:
For some weird reason you guys are all overlooking the obvious fault in this plan which is that if we nominate who we think is obvtown the scum will nominate obvscum and vice versa?

do you have a better idea?
and isn't this theory discussion here yourself the irony

If you're going to discuss theory we might as well do it in a manner that isn't anti-town.

It doesn't really matter what type of player we nominate because the scum will just nominate their polar opposite.

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Twistedspoon wrote:so? he said that wasn't indicative of alignment

Lies.

at the very least it's against the spirit of mafia to try and break the game by figuring out role Pm times instead of scumhunting. at the worst it's useless and time-wasting

Only scum use the excuse of 'against the spirit of mafia'. And you've somehow brought up this completely different argument instead of responding to the fact that you were lying when you said he said it wasn't indicative of alignment.

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:

Twistedspoon wrote:or something like that

Backpedaling.

it's not backpeddaling because I can't exactly use that weak term to give me a free contradiction later on

While it may not have been backpedalling (I was searching for a better term at the time) it was certainly leaving significant room for error.

Twistedspoon wrote:anything else or can we idscuss how your read on johog changed in 2 posts?
If that isn't backpeddaling then I don't know what is

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 9#p3335109
http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 2#p3336752
you call me out for things you do yourself. backpeddaling, theory discussion. You Mr. Quilford are starting to irritate me

A flip happened, smartass. And you just completely invalidated the point you were trying to make in Quote #1.

Quilford · Post Post #244 (isolation #46) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:39 am

Quilford wrote:he fact that what obviously happened was Twisted voted Maruchan for towncred and then immediately switched, quoting all previous reasoning and not even offering an original perspective on things, once he realised he had the hammer.

I noticed you didn't respond to this point.

Is it because I'm right? Yes.

Quilford · Post Post #246 (isolation #47) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:56 am

You're doing exactly what Maruchan did and you're doing it for towncred in light of his flip.

Quilford · Post Post #247 (isolation #48) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 12:56 am

Moreover, you've ignored my points.

Quilford · Post Post #256 (isolation #49) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:06 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:You're doing exactly what Maruchan did and you're doing it for towncred in light of his flip.

no, i just want to exit this game nominated or not because you're insistence and refusal to listen aren't making this game fun at all for me.

Replace out instead of whining, please.

Twistedspoon wrote:furthermore I feel my flip would give my reads more weight. manchu had no reads so I'm doing it for different reasons y'see

and I've ignored the rest of your points because I can't be bothered since you don't listen. You're too "lol TS isn't transparent look at this game guyz. look, he mentions theory for 1 line lolscum" and I'm fed up to be quite honest

What's your case on me? "lol Quil thinks he's conf town that's not modest lolscum"

Quilford · Post Post #257 (isolation #50) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:07 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Twistedspoon wrote:
a new question to you: why do you think johog does not view you as confirmed town? He is a town read of yours and you seem quite confident that you're confirmed

answer this quilford

Not sure?

Quilford · Post Post #259 (isolation #51) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:10 am

Johhog wrote:Don't replace out Twisted. Don't let scum like Quilford destroy your game.

Explain, in your own words, why you think I'm scum.

I'm almost certain that at least one of Johhog and Twisted is scum.

Quilford · Post Post #266 (isolation #52) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:33 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:Don't replace out Twisted. Don't let scum like Quilford destroy your game.

Explain, in your own words, why you think I'm scum.

I'm almost certain that at least one of Johhog and Twisted is scum.

Aha! You're flip-flopping a lot here Quilford. First I was scum, then I was town and now I'm scum again? Please decide.

The first change was based on the flip.

The second hasn't even happened yet. It just makes sense for one of you to be scum.

Johhog wrote:Your scum because you elected someone who didn't even post,

So did everyone else on the bandwagon, including Twisted. It's not even remotely relevant either?

Johhog wrote:tunneling on Maruchan

Do you take issues with the reasons for why I voted Maruchan? It seemed perfectly reasonable to me.

Johhog wrote:refusing to take responsibility for the Timeater election

Since when?

Johhog wrote:calling yourself confirmed town when you are waaaay more scum than town

Your personal reads are not relevant to the reasons why I consider myself confirmed town. I'm pretty sure I should be mod-confirmed, even, if not completely.

Johhog wrote:intentionally refusing to explain your scumreads

At the time I posted my reads I was on public transport heading to school. It shouldn't be surprising that I had no time to elaborate.

Johhog wrote:being hypocritical.

Did you just copy the point that TS made that I rebutted?

Johhog wrote:Of course that's not my real reasons

What?

Quilford · Post Post #268 (isolation #53) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:34 am

Johhog wrote:Lol Quilford is scum.

And you call me a tunneller and a hypocrite.

Quilford · Post Post #270 (isolation #54) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:35 am

Twistedspoon wrote:I never said I found quilford scummy.

Your reads list indicates otherwise. Please continue lying blatantly.

Twistedspoon wrote:I've said he won't listen, is wrong about me and a variety of other things

You openly stated you couldn't be bothered to respond to me points. How am I supposed to know I'm wrong about you if you don't even put up a defence?

Quilford · Post Post #271 (isolation #55) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:36 am

I'd be fine with nominating myself.

Quilford · Post Post #275 (isolation #56) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:40 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:Of course that's not my real reasons

What?

Anything strange with this? Y'know, I never use evidence to find scum, I just make my evidence up on the spot to if possible convince others. Here it was quite a lot though.

'that's not my real reasons' sounds like an easy way to back out of being wrong when your reasons are proven completely wrong eg just then

What are your real reasons, Johhog?

Quilford · Post Post #277 (isolation #57) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:41 am

nomination votes

SD - 2 (TS, Johhog)
Quil - 1 (Quil)

Quilford · Post Post #280 (isolation #58) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:46 am

Johhog wrote:hiplop - Probably town, he is sticking to his town meta.

Meta

Johhog wrote:Lurconis - Nullish scum. I suggest you stop the lurcing.

Activity levels

Johhog wrote:Packbat - I'm a little afraid of this guy. Null, but he could easily be scum.

None specified, 'a little afraid'. Classic scum null read.

Johhog wrote:Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town.

Blatant lies designed to incense.

Johhog wrote:Quilford - Very likely scum per my above points.

which have been rebutted and are contradictory

Johhog wrote:Shadow Dancer - Obvscum. Tunneling and being way too aggressive.

Hypocrisy, extreme subjectivity, hyperbole - probably a bus?

Johhog wrote:Tovarish - Need to see more posts from this guy. Null.

Activity levels

Johhog wrote:Twistedspoon - Very town, not obvtown but very close. Good points and plays with reason.

Buddying, vagueness.

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You've finally convinced me that you're scum! Congratulations!

Quilford · Post Post #281 (isolation #59) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:48 am

says "Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town." when TS was the hammer vote on the Maru wagon

puts TS as almost obvtown
wut wut

Quilford · Post Post #285 (isolation #60) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:51 am

Johhog wrote:Hm, SD is scum, Quilford is scum... who should we nominate? Still SD is even more obvscum, so personally I'll stick with him.

You still haven't responded to me showing how all your points against me are wrong and all your reads are scummy. Please do so.

Quilford · Post Post #287 (isolation #61) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:53 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:says "Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town." when TS was the hammer vote on the Maru wagon

puts TS as almost obvtown
wut wut

He claims he wasn't aware it was the hammer. I believe him.

He came up with a list of reasons as to why Maruchan was scum. Unless he's admitting to just quoting someone's post he would've read the game. If he had read the game he should've know the VC.

Twistedspoon wrote:i did not know

Yes. Very convincing.

Quilford · Post Post #290 (isolation #62) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:56 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:hiplop - Probably town, he is sticking to his town meta.

Meta
Hypocrisy.
The fact that you don't elaborate on what meta and how means it is not hypocrisy?

Johhog wrote:Lurconis - Nullish scum. I suggest you stop the lurcing.

Activity levels
So?
You list no reason apart from lurking for listing this guy as 'nullish scum'.

Johhog wrote:Packbat - I'm a little afraid of this guy. Null, but he could easily be scum.

None specified, 'a little afraid'. Classic scum null read.
So?
You list no reasoning.

Johhog wrote:Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town.

Blatant lies designed to incense.
Not lies.
Everyone for Maruchan gave reasoning. Show me otherwise.

Johhog wrote:Quilford - Very likely scum per my above points.

which have been rebutted and are contradictory
Nope.
Well then rebut my rebuttal.

Johhog wrote:Shadow Dancer - Obvscum. Tunneling and being way too aggressive.

Hypocrisy, extreme subjectivity, hyperbole - probably a bus?
Lulz.

Johhog wrote:Tovarish - Need to see more posts from this guy. Null.

Activity levels
So?
You list one person as null-scum for lurking but you only list this guy as null?

Johhog wrote:Twistedspoon - Very town, not obvtown but very close. Good points and plays with reason.

Buddying, vagueness.
Ah, I'm scum because I have a townread on your scumread. I see.
When did I ever say that?

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You've finally convinced me that you're scum! Congratulations!

Quilford · Post Post #291 (isolation #63) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 1:57 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:says "Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town." when TS was the hammer vote on the Maru wagon

puts TS as almost obvtown
wut wut

He claims he wasn't aware it was the hammer. I believe him.

He came up with a list of reasons as to why Maruchan was scum. Unless he's admitting to just quoting someone's post he would've read the game. If he had read the game he should've know the VC.

Hypocrisy, again. You claimed that you wasn't aware it was the hammer.

I love how you're just throwing around these buzzwords.

I wasn't aware of it being the hammer because I WASN'T HAMMERING.

Quilford · Post Post #293 (isolation #64) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:01 am

I did, but it doesn't matter because I wasn't the hammerer - I couldn't have stopped TS from voting.

Continue to flail and fail to respond to my points, thanks.

Quilford · Post Post #297 (isolation #65) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:06 am

Still no response...

'lol'

Quilford · Post Post #299 (isolation #66) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:10 am

If you like you can expedite the process by claiming scum?

Quilford · Post Post #301 (isolation #67) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:20 am

Johhog can you give me a reason for not rebutting my rebuttal?

Quilford · Post Post #306 (isolation #68) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:25 am

Johhog wrote:
Crazy wrote:
TS wrote:
@crazy: were scum role Pms sent out at the same time as town Pms, and would we be able to use role PM time to deduce alignments?

I'm declining to answer this.

Not good at all.

You can admit I'm right, now.

Find the rebuttal yourself.

Quilford · Post Post #308 (isolation #69) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:28 am

Right about why I should be confirmed town.

Quilford · Post Post #312 (isolation #70) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:38 am

Rebut the rebuttal, Johhog.

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I should be confirmed town because I had the idea of asking Maruchan what time his Role PM arrived; if he were a Townie he would answer :57 and all other townies would be able to verify.

Unfortunately, Crazy posted before Maru could.

Quilford · Post Post #313 (isolation #71) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:39 am

*tempted to nominate*

Quilford · Post Post #316 (isolation #72) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 2:48 am

Johhog wrote:Lol, you're no good town candidate. I would likely vote your opponent.

For the nth time, why?

Quilford · Post Post #321 (isolation #73) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:06 am

Johhog for the n+1th time, why am I scum?

Every point you have brought up prior has been rebutted by me with no further response from you.

Also we can't actually force someone to nominate themselves.

Quilford · Post Post #324 (isolation #74) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:29 am

Johhog wrote:But your last rebuttal of mine rebuttal of your rebuttal makes no sense.

Why not?!

Johhog wrote:More relevant question: Why do you want to nominate yourself?

Because I should be pretty town to any sane person.

Quilford · Post Post #325 (isolation #75) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:30 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Also we can't actually force someone to nominate themselves.

no, but they'd be obvscum/conf. scum if they refuse

So what? They'd just never nominate themselves/be nominated.

Quilford · Post Post #328 (isolation #76) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:32 am

Johhog wrote:And I don't agree with your last rebuttal at all. My point still stands.

Explain why.

How many times do I have to say this?

Quilford · Post Post #329 (isolation #77) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:33 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Also we can't actually force someone to nominate themselves.

no, but they'd be obvscum/conf. scum if they refuse

So what? They'd just never nominate themselves/be nominated.

How good for town! Then we have a confirmed scum running around in endgame.

Actually I just realised that all scum have to be nominated at some point.

Quilford · Post Post #331 (isolation #78) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:44 am

No I didn't; I reasoned why the explanations were invalid. You can now do 1 of 2 things:
1) Explain why my reasoning is invalid
2) Write a new set of reads with proper explanations behind them

Quilford · Post Post #334 (isolation #79) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:55 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:hiplop - Probably town, he is sticking to his town meta.

Meta
Hypocrisy.
The fact that you don't elaborate on what meta and how means it is not hypocrisy?
He is playing to his own town meta, what do you want me to say? You're discarding of this read is hypocrisy because you're using meta on Twistedspoon
I noted specific meta to compare TS' play with. Can you?

Johhog wrote:Lurconis - Nullish scum. I suggest you stop the lurcing.

Activity levels
So?
You list no reason apart from lurking for listing this guy as 'nullish scum'.
And his few posts is a little scummish.
why?

Johhog wrote:Packbat - I'm a little afraid of this guy. Null, but he could easily be scum.

None specified, 'a little afraid'. Classic scum null read.
So?
You list no reasoning.
Because I don't have any. He seems... shady... in a way that can be both townish and scummy.
What makes him shady?

Johhog wrote:Pomegranate - The only one who actually gave reasoning for voting Maruchan. Nullish town.

Blatant lies designed to incense.
Not lies.
Everyone for Maruchan gave reasoning. Show me otherwise.
Oh no they didn't. OH GOD HE NOMINATED HIMSELF HE IS SCUM isn't reasoning.
1) Yes it is. 2) List the reasoning Pom gave and then show how no-one else gave it

Johhog wrote:Quilford - Very likely scum per my above points.

which have been rebutted and are contradictory
Nope.
Well then rebut my rebuttal.
Wait what rebuttal?
you wrote like a whole paragraph which I rebutted. I'll quote it

Johhog wrote:Shadow Dancer - Obvscum. Tunneling and being way too aggressive.

Hypocrisy, extreme subjectivity, hyperbole - probably a bus?
Lulz.

Oh god you didn't even answer to this one.

Johhog wrote:Tovarish - Need to see more posts from this guy. Null.

Activity levels
So?
You list one person as null-scum for lurking but you only list this guy as null?
Yeah? His only post is giving me more townvibes than Lurconis posts.
And why is it doing that? And if it is, why not put him at null-town?

Johhog wrote:Twistedspoon - Very town, not obvtown but very close. Good points and plays with reason.

Buddying, vagueness.
Ah, I'm scum because I have a townread on your scumread. I see.
When did I ever say that?
You didn't, but I can see what you really mean.
What?

---

You've finally convinced me that you're scum! Congratulations!

Happy? The only thing I can answer to this, but what did you expect?

Quilford · Post Post #335 (isolation #80) » Fri Aug 12, 2011 3:56 am

Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:
Johhog wrote:Don't replace out Twisted. Don't let scum like Quilford destroy your game.

Explain, in your own words, why you think I'm scum.

I'm almost certain that at least one of Johhog and Twisted is scum.

Aha! You're flip-flopping a lot here Quilford. First I was scum, then I was town and now I'm scum again? Please decide.

The first change was based on the flip.

The second hasn't even happened yet. It just makes sense for one of you to be scum.

Johhog wrote:Your scum because you elected someone who didn't even post,

So did everyone else on the bandwagon, including Twisted. It's not even remotely relevant either?

Johhog wrote:tunneling on Maruchan

Do you take issues with the reasons for why I voted Maruchan? It seemed perfectly reasonable to me.

Johhog wrote:refusing to take responsibility for the Timeater election

Since when?

Johhog wrote:calling yourself confirmed town when you are waaaay more scum than town

Your personal reads are not relevant to the reasons why I consider myself confirmed town. I'm pretty sure I should be mod-confirmed, even, if not completely.

Johhog wrote:intentionally refusing to explain your scumreads

At the time I posted my reads I was on public transport heading to school. It shouldn't be surprising that I had no time to elaborate.

Johhog wrote:being hypocritical.

Did you just copy the point that TS made that I rebutted?

Johhog wrote:Of course that's not my real reasons

What?

Quilford · Post Post #384 (isolation #81) » Sat Aug 13, 2011 12:20 pm

Twistedspoon wrote:quilford calls me not transparent

that implies that that's all I call you

Quilford · Post Post #401 (isolation #82) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 9:49 am

Johhog is scum?

Quilford · Post Post #404 (isolation #83) » Sun Aug 14, 2011 8:35 pm

Well then why the fuck would you nominate yourself like that?

Quilford · Post Post #408 (isolation #84) » Mon Aug 15, 2011 1:05 am

Johhog wrote:
Quilford wrote:Well then why the fuck would you nominate yourself like that?

Twistedspoon partly answered that, but in short scum would do everything to stop my nomination (my flip would give so much info) so I had to quicknominate myself before scum nominated someone else.

...

Why do you deserve my vote?

Quilford · Post Post #445 (isolation #85) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:35 pm

Hmmmmm.

Quilford · Post Post #454 (isolation #86) » Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:13 pm

Pretty sure Duplicity's scum.

Quilford · Post Post #464 (isolation #87) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:22 am

VOTE: Pomegranate

Not voting with Duplicity or Twistedspoon who are my top scum reads.

Quilford · Post Post #467 (isolation #88) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 11:38 am

Do explain.

Quilford · Post Post #469 (isolation #89) » Sat Aug 20, 2011 12:26 pm

Explain how it's scummy. If you want full reads they're coming.

Quilford · Post Post #504 (isolation #90) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:33 am

yaaaaaaay

I'm so dumb!

I'm going to go ahead and use the excuse that there are so many mafia in this setup that it's quite hard to tell the two players apart.

Quilford · Post Post #505 (isolation #91) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:36 am

Pretty sure Packbat, hiplop and Lurconis are the remaining townies.

Quilford · Post Post #506 (isolation #92) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:36 am

Duplicity's initial post is the most disingenuous thing I've ever read.

Quilford · Post Post #514 (isolation #93) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 6:17 pm

Packbat wrote:
Quilford wrote:Pretty sure Packbat, hiplop and Lurconis are the remaining townies.

You're proposing that
all three scum
voted for the townie?

Why not?

Quilford · Post Post #517 (isolation #94) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 9:59 pm

Full reads lists from everyone please.

Quilford · Post Post #518 (isolation #95) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:03 pm

Actually, just your scummiest player is fine.

Duplicity is mine.

Quilford · Post Post #521 (isolation #96) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:03 pm

Tovarish wrote:
I play the same way as scum as I do as town.

Not encouraging. It doesn't help at all that you would rush in to run before you would even know your alignment. You'd think a responsible town would get together and try to figure out how the scum would go about running people long before going into the first election.

Twisted, what do you think of this post?

Quilford · Post Post #522 (isolation #97) » Sun Aug 21, 2011 10:06 pm

Duplicity wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:Lurconis, that was a freakin stupid move. Quil and Pack are town. I'm having trouble getting a read on Duplicity.

Why the fuck did you attempt to theorize over whether Johhog self nominated as scum instead of actually convincing me you were town. Jesus fucking christ.

Relatively sure TS is town, don't think he'd have suggested to have his scum partner be nominated. Quilford is scum who voted Pom to get town-cred, unsure on Packbat now though. Lurcs hammer on Pom is opportunistic scum without a doubt though.

This post from Duplicity seems pretty town to me though.

:/

Okay, scummiest is Shadow Dancer.

Quilford · Post Post #531 (isolation #98) » Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:17 pm

oh fuck no

Quilford · Post Post #577 (isolation #99) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:00 am

ts without referring to hiplop please tell me why you're town 'coz i'm not seeing it

Quilford · Post Post #579 (isolation #100) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 3:30 am

'without referring to hiplop'

Quilford · Post Post #584 (isolation #101) » Sat Aug 27, 2011 4:32 am

Twistedspoon wrote:
Quilford wrote:'without referring to hiplop'

so? I'm up against him so i have to be compared

I contribute he doesn't

I don't see what the problem is here

Twisted you do not have to be compared

You know this

Quilford · Post Post #621 (isolation #102) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:33 am

VOTE: Twistedspoon

blaaaaaaargh

*crosses fingers*

Quilford · Post Post #622 (isolation #103) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:34 am

hiplop wrote:
Shadow Dancer wrote:@Dup: Please realize that you are only accusing twisted of changing his opinion about hip after hip was nominated against him. Inconsistency, contrary to what far too many people believe, was never a scum tell and most especially is not in this case.

vote Twisted

the thing i find odd is that he refuses to admit those things. He had a a BIG town read on me, and suddenly he only had a slight one on me due to PoE. Why is he lying?

This was the post that convinced me.

Quilford · Post Post #623 (isolation #104) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:35 am

fuck

I've hammered wrongly haven't I?

Quilford · Post Post #625 (isolation #105) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:47 am

You're town? You swear?

Quilford · Post Post #628 (isolation #106) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:54 am

Lurconis is volunteering tomorrow and nobody else.

Quilford · Post Post #631 (isolation #107) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 2:57 am

*sigh of relief*

Off to bed.

Quilford · Post Post #633 (isolation #108) » Sun Aug 28, 2011 3:46 am

Whaaaat?

Lurconis volunteers next.

Quilford · Post Post #647 (isolation #109) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:01 pm

VOTE: Lurconis

Quilford · Post Post #648 (isolation #110) » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:01 pm

Lurconis wrote:I assume you and your "Pack"mates chose to nominate you in hopes of making it one more day as no one would vote for pack at this point.

This is immediately what I thought.

Quilford · Wed Aug 31, 2011 11:20 pm

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Quilford · Post Post #657 (isolation #112) » Thu Sep 01, 2011 9:13 pm

Bold your friggin' vote, Dup.

Quilford · Thu Sep 01, 2011 11:53 pm

Duplicity wrote:
Quilford wrote:Bold your friggin' vote, Dup.

You better have a good reason for pointing this out because I'm livid right now, I PM the mod to find out if it's allowed to reaction-test via faking a non-vote vote, get a go ahead and try it to have it ruined by you. Waste of fucking time.

Shifts still online, going to have a discussion with him, we're potentially making a real vote in an hour or two, if we don't I'd appreciate no one hammers until we get a chance to state our thoughts.

Yes; mafia will definitely fall for that one.

unvote

Quilford · Fri Sep 02, 2011 12:06 am

Shadow Dancer wrote:
Lurconis wrote:[...]
@Shadow Dancer Your I have a mystery plan that will win scenario seems iffy to me. Could be a gambit.
[...]

Could
be? Of course I am gambiting. And being iffy is obviously and neccessarily part of it.
Just don't later on get the strange idea I claimed to have a sure win breaking strategy. There is no such thing for this game.

Because I don't feel that scum would pull this.

Quilford · Post Post #668 (isolation #115) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 1:42 am

Packbat wrote:Why did you vote Lurconis in the first place?

Because I felt like not WIFOMing the fuck out of myself?

Quilford · Post Post #670 (isolation #116) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:38 am

I voted Lurconis because I was having second doubts and wanted to put them to rest.

Now they're stirring again.

Quilford · Post Post #671 (isolation #117) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:42 am

Shadow Dancer wrote:
Duplicity wrote:Vote: Lurconis

Hammer stolen. Lurconis or ShadowDancer should be online in an hour or two to state if the games over or not but I'm expecting that it is. I'd also love to see what mafias thoughts were when putting hip up against TS.

You better hope the mod does not count that unbolded vote because esle I predict that you just lost town the gmae, you goddamn stupid moron.

I'm not sure whether this is townie or not considering that town wouldn't lose the game if mafia were elected at the moment.

Hurrr.

I need to look at lurc's ISO. And I'm now worried about Packbat voting for Lurconis.

Quilford · Post Post #672 (isolation #118) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 4:45 am

I can't tell who's town.

I just can't.

Quilford · Post Post #673 (isolation #119) » Fri Sep 02, 2011 5:10 am

fuggit

I just meta'd SD and he's more active and obvious than this as town

but I don't know why scum would present such a weird plan

and I want to know why Dup's feeling angsty about Lurc

Quilford · Post Post #678 (isolation #120) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:38 am

So guys I was just thinking it would be a good idea not to be deadlined

Quilford · Post Post #680 (isolation #121) » Sat Sep 03, 2011 4:32 am

we're wasting time waiting for people to return; this will ultimately make the decision harder

Quilford · Sun Sep 04, 2011 12:10 am

Thanks for that wonderful dump of IIoA.

Quilford · Post Post #694 (isolation #123) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:23 pm

I'm very ready to vote Lurconis and if there is a next day I will certainly be nomming myself.

Quilford · Post Post #695 (isolation #124) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:34 pm

VOTE: Lurconis

Quilford · Post Post #696 (isolation #125) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:39 pm

Why the fuck did I do that.

Quilford · Post Post #697 (isolation #126) » Sun Sep 04, 2011 9:53 pm

this is why gut > logic I guess

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:02 am

yep, in hindsight I should've gone with the 'no scum would do something so blatantly anti-town as keep their talking to a minimum'

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:02 am

↑ Shadow Dancer wrote:So let's start with a look at the general flow of votes:

I.Maru vs. Time

↑ Crazy wrote:
Maruchan
(1) - hiplop

Timeater
(4) - Quilford, Packbat, Pomegranate, Lurconis

Not voting
(4) - Tovarish, Johhog, Twistedspoon, Shadow Dancer

Quilford votes for Time pretty soon and it becomes immidiately clear that maru's anti-town play would cause an almost undisputed wake of outrage against him. So Pack, Pom and Lurc all jumping onto the waggon in short succession cannot surprise, even if all three of them are scum, after all it was both in scum's best interest to vote their buddy and even by far the safer and more unquestionable spot to put one's vote.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Maruchan
(1) - hiplop

Timeater
(5) - Quilford, Pomegranate, Lurconis, Shadow Dancer, Twistedspoon

Not voting
(3) - Tovarish, Packbat, Johhog

Packbat unvotes after his buddies stacked on the waggon and it becam apparent that town would drive it through without much scum interference required...

II. Joh vs. Pom

↑ Crazy wrote:
Johhog
(2) - Shadow Dancer, Twistedspoon

Pomegranate
(0)

Not voting
(5) - Packbat, Duplicity, Lurconis, hiplop, Quilford

The Joh waggon starts of with two fast town votes on it.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Johhog
(3) - Shadow Dancer, Twistedspoon, Duplicity

Pomegranate
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(3) - Lurconis, hiplop, Quilford

A third town vote on the Joh waggon, things get pretty narrow for scum. Packbat, obviously destined to play the role of "bad scum" tries to establish at least somewhat of a counterdynamic - for more than shady reasons (more aout that later).

↑ Crazy wrote:
Johhog
(3) - Shadow Dancer, Twistedspoon, Duplicity

Pomegranate
(2) - Packbat, Quilford

Not voting
(2) - Lurconis, hiplop

Quilford, predisposed to fall for bad scum WIFOM, falls for it, however, it's still pretty bad for scum and they'd have to stack all their votes to succeed in pushing the Pom waggon through, which would eventually and almost inevitably expose them to suspicion on all of them.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Johhog
(4) - Shadow Dancer, Twistedspoon, Duplicity, Lurconis

Pomegranate
(2) - Packbat, Quilford

Not voting
(1) - hiplop

So Lurc decides to think in longer terms and go for some easy town credits on an already unstopable ttown waggon by quickhammering Joh.

III. Twosted vs. Hip

↑ Crazy wrote:
Twistedspoon
(1) - Lurconis

hiplop
(0)

Not voting
(4) - Packbat, Duplicity, Quilford, Shadow Dancer

Hip was obviously picked by scum for supposedly having realistic chances to beat Twisted, not to get rid of dead weight. However, scum also have to take into consideration that they'd eventually have to win at least one more election to have any chances of victory. There only halfway promissing candidate left is Lurc and another shady vote would not look good on him, so he decides that he'd better play it safe this time and be the first one on the town waggon.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Twistedspoon
(1) - Lurconis

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(3) - Duplicity, Quilford, Shadow Dancer

Now it's starting to become interesting. I withhold my vote to see what Pack would do if he cannot bring forth connective WIFOM to justify a misvote - and unsurprisingly he places it on hip, equaling out the waggons (double voting Twisted would have obviously been a terrible move for scum), justification for the vote? - nil.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Twistedspoon
(2) - Lurconis, Shadow Dancer

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(2) - Quilford, Duplicity

I place my vote as planned....

↑ Crazy wrote:
Twistedspoon
(3) - Lurconis, Shadow Dancer, Quilford

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(1) - Duplicity

Twistedspoon has been elected. He was a
Townie
.
hiplop has been lynched. He was
Mafia

And Quilford hammers...

IV. Lurc vs. Shadow

↑ Crazy wrote:
Lurconis
(1) - Quilford

Shadow Dancer
(0)

Not voting
(2) - Packbat, Duplicity

Quilford spontaneously votes Lurc...

↑ Crazy wrote:
Lurconis
(1) - Packbat

Shadow Dancer
(0)

Not voting
(2) - Duplicity, Quilford

And guess what happens when people actually try to question their votes and start real scumhunting? Packbat's there to try and safe the day by voting his scum buddy.

If this little abstract did not convince you or you think I just mention the one interpretation among many that seems to suit me the most - then you'll have to wait for my further analysis on individual player behaviour.

By the way, SD, this made me not vote for you

It was pure recounting

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:04 am

↑ Lurconis wrote:Anyway reads as they stand: ShadowDancer (Confirmed Scum) Duplicity (Scum) Packbat (Village Idiot) Quillford (Town)

anyway now we have this delicious bit of WIFOM to deal with

*braces for Duplicity's wrath*

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:05 am

↑ Shadow Dancer wrote:No, all we will do is tell scum whom
they
should nominate. They are overhelming in numbers, thaey have the second pick and they can beat any town strategy.

So I won't discuss non-nominated players. And I won't nominate players to volunteer because that would require me to give my reads.

I trust no one. It's the only winning strategy. The sooner you realize this the better.

This idea is so dumb, though.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:07 am

Also the WIFOM of 'would Packbat really vote all the scum players as scum'.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:10 am

Oh well, pretty sure Duplicity's scum.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:12 am

Pretty sure I'll be up against them tomorrow, too

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:23 am

Shadow Dancer, don't give me this 'I've got better things to do with my time' bullshit, you were clearly our weakest link -- scumreads on you were near universal and you absolutely refused to post anything resembling content until you were under the knife.

Screw patience, I wanted a flip.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:31 am

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Maruchan
(1) -
hiplop

Timeater
(4) -
Quilford
, Packbat,
Pomegranate
,
Lurconis

Not voting
(4) - Tovarish,
Johhog
,
Twistedspoon
,
Shadow Dancer

The first candidate to receive 5 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 17th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Maruchan
(1) -
hiplop

Timeater
(5) -
Quilford
,
Pomegranate
,
Lurconis
,
Shadow Dancer
,
Twistedspoon

Not voting
(3) - Tovarish, Packbat,
Johhog

Timeater
has been elected. He was
Mafia
.

Maruchan
has been lynched. He was a
Townie
.

It is now
Day 2, Morning.
You have until
August 18th
for someone to volunteer.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Johhog
(2) -
Shadow Dancer
,
Twistedspoon

Pomegranate
(0)

Not voting
(5) - Packbat, Duplicity,
Lurconis
,
hiplop
,
Quilford

The first candidate to receive 4 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 25th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Johhog
(3) -
Shadow Dancer
,
Twistedspoon
, Duplicity

Pomegranate
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(3) -
Lurconis
,
hiplop
,
Quilford

The first candidate to receive 4 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 25th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Johhog
(3) -
Shadow Dancer
,
Twistedspoon
, Duplicity

Pomegranate
(2) - Packbat,
Quilford

Not voting
(2) -
Lurconis
,
hiplop

The first candidate to receive 4 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 25th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Johhog
(4) -
Shadow Dancer
,
Twistedspoon
, Duplicity,
Lurconis

Pomegranate
(2) - Packbat,
Quilford

Not voting
(1) -
hiplop

Johhog
has been elected. He was a
Townie
.

Pomegranate
has been lynched. She was
Mafia
.

It is now
Day 3, Morning
. The deadline is
August 28th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Twistedspoon
(1) -
Lurconis

hiplop
(0)

Not voting
(4) - Packbat, Duplicity,
Quilford
,
Shadow Dancer

The first candidate to receive 3 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 31st
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Twistedspoon
(1) -
Lurconis

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(3) - Duplicity,
Quilford
,
Shadow Dancer

The first candidate to receive 3 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 31st
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Twistedspoon
(2) -
Lurconis
,
Shadow Dancer

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(2) -
Quilford
, Duplicity

The first candidate to receive 3 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
August 31st
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Twistedspoon
(3) -
Lurconis
,
Shadow Dancer
,
Quilford

hiplop
(1) - Packbat

Not voting
(1) - Duplicity

Twistedspoon
has been elected. He was a
Townie
.

hiplop
has been lynched. He was
Mafia
.

It is now Day 4, Morning. Deadline is
September 4th
.

↑ Crazy wrote:
Vote Count:

Lurconis
(2) - Packbat(,
Quilford
)

Shadow Dancer
(0)

Not voting
(1) - Duplicity

The first candidate to receive 2 votes will be elected.

Deadline is
September 7th
.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:43 am

↑ Pomegranate wrote:Lurconis, that was a freakin stupid move.

Quil and Pack are town. I'm having trouble getting a read on Duplicity.

For reference.

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:45 am

↑ Lurconis wrote:ShadowDancer (Confirmed Scum) Duplicity (Scum) Packbat (Village Idiot) Quillford (Town)

also for reference

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:50 am

↑ Duplicity wrote:
Pomegranate wrote:Lurconis, that was a freakin stupid move. Quil and Pack are town. I'm having trouble getting a read on Duplicity.

Why the fuck did you attempt to theorize over whether Johhog self nominated as scum instead of actually convincing me you were town. Jesus fucking christ.

Relatively sure TS is town, don't think he'd have suggested to have his scum partner be nominated. Quilford is scum who voted Pom to get town-cred, unsure on Packbat now though. Lurcs hammer on Pom is opportunistic scum without a doubt though.

↑ Duplicity wrote:
Twistedspoon wrote:I was just so sure Johog was town and pom scum...

As was I, before replacing in I was following this and was near positive of Pomscum and Johhog town and Poms reaction towards being nominated near solidified that but her post-hammer comment is making me feel really nervous.

yyyyyyyyeah these are town posts

Duplicity should nominate themselves

Quilford · Mon Sep 05, 2011 12:51 am

...

I don't knowwwww

Quilford · Post Post #724 (isolation #140) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:09 pm

Thank god.

Quilford · Post Post #725 (isolation #141) » Tue Sep 06, 2011 7:42 pm

I'll most likely be voting Packbat, but I could probably be convinced either way.

Quilford · Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:40 am

You have a case on Duplicity to offer

Quilford · Wed Sep 07, 2011 12:58 am

Anything else?

Quilford · Post Post #733 (isolation #144) » Wed Sep 07, 2011 3:39 am

Both of you explain how your meta compares favorably with this game.

Quilford · Post Post #736 (isolation #145) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:10 pm

Waiting on Dup.

Quilford · Post Post #738 (isolation #146) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:29 pm

Okay.

VOTE: Duplicity

Quilford · Post Post #739 (isolation #147) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:36 pm

*refreshes furiously*

Quilford · Post Post #741 (isolation #148) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:41 pm

oh booooo >_<

-_-

I disliked this setup

Quilford · Post Post #742 (isolation #149) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 7:45 pm

↑ Quilford wrote:I'll most likely be voting Packbat, but I could probably be convinced either way.

When I said this I meant vote as in 'lynch'; whoops.

Quilford · Post Post #748 (isolation #150) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:04 pm

Deadlines didn't allow for enough discussion.

Quilford · Post Post #749 (isolation #151) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:08 pm

In fact, mafia got half the length of a town deadline.

Quilford · Post Post #751 (isolation #152) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:15 pm

That would have been a good idea.

I dunno; what it just comes down to for me is that I didn't find it fun. I lurked and I felt unmotivated when I checked my bookmarks and saw new posts; part of the reason why I voted Dup.

Quilford · Post Post #753 (isolation #153) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 8:24 pm

I must say, I'm also annoyed that I forgot the lesson that I learned from SD: gut > logic.

Quilford · Post Post #755 (isolation #154) » Thu Sep 08, 2011 9:46 pm

↑ Johhog wrote:The scum is:

Pomegranate (Confirmed)

Packbat (90% sure)
/
hiplop (5% sure)
/
Duplicity (5% sure)

Lurconis (55% sure,)
/
SD (35% sure)
/
Quilford (8% sure)
/
Twistedspoon (2% sure)

Johhog wrote:WTF?

Dooooon't even start.

Quilford · Thu Sep 08, 2011 10:00 pm

Oh good.

I'm annoyed at my brain.

Quilford · Post Post #800 (isolation #156) » Sun Sep 11, 2011 6:59 pm

↑ Pomegranate wrote:I think this type of game would work pretty well in face to face mafia, given the lack of confusing PRs and stuff.

I've actually started playing it face to face since the start of the game. It's fun, but I'd say mafia win about one in seven games. :P