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[Kcdaspot]

Posting.

Need to reread.

brb.

[Kcdaspot]

Spoiler: This game is bad yo.

#9 Isa bandwagoning

#13 Projectmatt is my first scumread.

#17 Hoppster is town

#19 PROJECTMATT IS CONFSCUM

#23 DH is stupid

#28 Isa is dumber

#29 Xeras is town

#33 Vifam is town

#34 Hiplop is stupid

#36 and #38 Projectmatt is backpedaling.

#40 GET YOUR VOTE OFF OF OBV TOWN DH.

#42 huh?

#44 Oh so you were reaction testing. mmkay.

#45-46 DH is shaky town

#48 scumdar ping. nothing big enough yet.

#49 yep DH is town

#54 Yep Hopps is town too. Exchange w/ DH.

#58 Told ya. well, in the future but none the less.

#62 ISA SCUMALERT ISA SCUMALERT WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#68 vifam got dumb yo.

#70 I do not need to rvs. PM needs to DIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEE

#73 hold on why is he suspecting everyone?

#74 I like this para guy. too bad he didn't read.

#78 Eh?

#81 EH?

#83 Sup diddin?

#84 and 85 DH isn't scum. what?

#87 I think you're town hoppster... ;_;

#89 ._______.

#90 oh hey town diddin. sup?

#92 and 93 Paranoid townies found.

#94 para is cool town

#98 DH is Solid town

#99 wat

#100 to #104 Stop it children you're on the same side. And where is PM in all of this?

#108 DEFLECTING HARDER THAN A AMERICAN POLITICIAN!

#111 huh?

#121 worthless discussion is worthless.

#132 BOUT TIME WE GET BACK ON TRACK.

#134 you know, good post. I agree where this is coming from but i think diddin is a little more town than this.

#136 manho is on the right track.

#138 DIRECTLY on track.

#139 you forgot a vote there sunset.

#141 and agian...

#142 Bunny is null for me.

#144 ATTABOY SUNSET

#145 #146 Sunset said it better, also sunset is town.

#147 OH GREAT CONFOOSED HYDRA.

#152 oh jackalope posted? huh?

#155 RISE OF THE LATE PEOPLE/ LURKERS

#158 Do. Not. Lynch. Hoppster. Full stop.

#164 How in the hell do you become THAT scummy in one post? Wrath shows us how! way to regurgitate a case.

#167 >_< WHY IN THE FUCK ARE YOU ALWAYS SCUM?

#168 I TOLD YOU THAT TOPIC WAS WORTHLESS BRAH.

#170 zzzzzzz

#171 scum scum gonna scum.

#174 This. Topic. Stops. Now. Stupidstupidstupidstupid

VOTE: projectmatt

I'm going to lynch you. This game. Here and now.

[Kcdaspot]

no this is not a drill.

PM dies. nothing less.

[Kcdaspot]

zzzzzzzzzzz

[Kcdaspot]

greatest. game. ever.

[Kcdaspot]

Unvote

It's time to quicklynch David Xantos. He is scum.

Vote: David Xantos

Fail reaction is fail.

I feel that there can't be two townies who ask the same exact anti-town question in a row. We can PoE through them if need be, but there's so much scum motivation between the two of them that I feel one of them need to die.

Why are you setting us up for two specific lynches?

Asking somebody to explain their read isn't any kind of tell at all. Don't be that person.

DH is scum for being paranoid? wat?

I feel that there can't be two townies who ask the same exact anti-town question in a row. We can PoE through them if need be, but there's so much scum motivation between the two of them that I feel one of them need to die.

Why are you setting us up for two specific lynches?

Asking somebody to explain their read isn't any kind of tell at all. Don't be that person.

Why is David scum?


At least bother to answer the question that started DH's derp vote on Xeras.

Why do you think I'm calling David scum?

WIFOM.

Good enough.

Unvote

Did you honestly expect me to have a solid scum read on page one? The purpose was to get out of RVS conversation going.

BACKPEDAL HARDCORE

No.

I'm saying that the fact that this happened:

Followed by this:

within the span of 5 minutes is fucking weird, and that I don't think that the BOTH of them could be town.

..Why? If a player says that "we should quicklynch player x, he's mafia!", the expected response to such a question is why? Both town and scum would be curious as to why somebody said this. Explain the scum motivation.

Yeah um no. You trying to falsify info here. Scum you try and exploit it. DH had a good reaction coming off of it so: fail

I don't thin scum would look so obvious out of the gate.

This was directed at the Isa wagon, right? You think that a scum would intentionally act obvious? No. A scum can act scummy unintentionally. This logic hurts my head.

Vote: Xeras

Thinking hurts your head? kay. Nice WIFOM again.

My bad. Your logic is still a tad illogical though.

Good news is, I was wrong about me finding it weird and Xeras/Vifam are probably town. See how magical RVS is?

I don't like this post. Did Xeras and Vifam objectively towntell to you, or did they just prove that you were attacking them based off of faulty logic? Why are they now town reads?

Says the non contributor.

Just in case you didn't know, the vote on David wasn't a "joke". It was a pressure builder and an attempt to get the discussion out of RVS.

I'm not going to jot down a list of my reads because I would be lying if I told you I had a specific scum read.

With that being said..

Unvote

Bunnylover

for this post:

@Sunset: I do not do catch-up post. Kinda useless to make a stand on something that has already ended imo.

and this cam NEARLY 100 POSTS LATER!

lurklurklurklruk HEY I'LL FAKEVOTE BUNNY FOR LULZ

[Kcdaspot]

a lot of do-nothing.

You're trying to seem helpful while really you're just skating by

LYNCH PLZ KAY THX

[Kcdaspot]

OH YEAH WHERES THAT DEFLECT DEFENSE NOW BUDDY UH HUUUUUUUH??

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Reaction to

what?

You also didn't tell me why you had a scum read on me because I silently voted Vifam on page one. Why did you find that post scummy?

Vifam was RVS. AND you stopped playing around with the David vote, you said yourself. Look, He says he sees the OMGUS meaning he NOTED it. AND WHAT DO YOU DO? "OBVSCUM GOGOGOGOGOGOGO"

nope.avi

DH is scummy for setting up two specific lynches and using poor logic to tunnel. Did you read?

Better than you. He fosed 2 different people and voted one. your point?

HOW IN GOD'S NAME DOES THAT POST EVEN HAVE SLIGHT CORRELATIONS TO THE CONCEPT OF WIFOM?

With a straight face type down you weren't trying to WIFOM there. Simply put going of the origin of the phrase: You're trying to confuse poeple by saying "what kind of man am i? Why do YOU think I suspected him?" Then they try to Meta you to figure it out and it hurt their heads buying you time to sneak a lynch. GREAT TRY THOO. not.

Have you ever seen a player get a solid scum read on page one, when the player who is getting attacked has only made one post? Yeah, I don't think so. You know very well that it's not a backpedal.

you tried to push a case and a lynch, then you say "fair enough"? that's not a backpedal?

I don't get this.

Scum would try to exploit something from this. It wasn't DH because of his reaction so it must be another person and you were one of the if not the only person(s) to twist it upon DH sooo..

Nice try scum.

First of all, you should look up what "wifom" means. Secondly, logic that makes no sense whatsoever that was used to justify somebody as town "hurt my head". Where do you even..

"So how do you think scum would act Xeras?" is what i see there. sneaky backdoor WIFOM.

KDCA FOR COME BACK OF THE YEAR 11'

None of your posts to this point does the town any good. Get over yourself.

Your first post didn't come until one hundred and seventy seven full posts! It's not like you have human needs like eating, sleeping or not being on the computer every single minute of your life. This really is..

Your logic is honestly so completely "out there" that I hope to God Almighty that you are scum.

A. No one PM'd me that the game had started until today. (razzafrazza bowser razza)

B. Pray harder, maybe your scumminess will disappear too... NOT.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm gonna go ahead and put Kcd on my town list for now. Too bold to be scum IMO.

@Kcd: Do you think project has been scummier than our current vote leader Isa? Why?

Read. my. cases.

[Kcdaspot]

I may be mistaking David for DH somewhere in the wall up there but still.

Yeah.

Projectmatt votes PLEASE.

[Kcdaspot]

I LURVE IT WHEN DEY SQUIRM.

What's important to note is that I had no specific read on David when I posted "david is scum. quicklynch him" or whatever. As I explained many times, the vote was a vote for pressure and to get discussion out of RVS. You seem to view it as "being scum scum and attempting to quicklynch whoever says anything against me". That's not the case. It just isn't.

.. you said david was scum. that was a read. you committed to it with by mentioning that we should wagon him. Backpedal harder.

NO. Saying "I fos x and x for (insert something very illogical here)" is not pro-town in any way, shape or form. It's just trying to sound pro-town. It's not good.

It's scummy to FoS? To have suspicions about people? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

Or, I was trying to get the discussion out of RVS and I was asking Vifam questions so he could say something interesting and get us out faster.

Yeah You WERE trying to stop the RVS and focus in on a lynch, sure. TOO BAD IT WAS SCUMMY AS FUCK AMIRITE?

I didn't try to push a case. My only thing that called David was the ONE post where I voted him. I said "fair enough" and unvoted once enough people had stopped being silly and started playing very seriously. Read my posts.

See above. You called for a wagon. That is a commitment.

I don't get this.

scummy POV. you prolly never will. *le sigh*

That's not WIFOM.

It's a legitimate question that I want him to answer.

And even if it was WIFOM, it's not scummy.

PAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Damn You're just terrible.

You missed the point. You tried to twist the fact that I didn't post for one hundred posts into being a bad thing. It means that I was doing something that wasn't pertaining to the internet.

so where were you and what did you read that was interesting during those hundred posts. srsly where's the catchup?

Your logic is terrible. I'm helping the town by retorting it and showing everyone how twisted it is.

That's called deflecting.

Die.

Also: we need to stop this wall to wall business. it's annoying.

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I find Isa to be a good tenative vote. Don't want to potentially quicklynch or allow for it.

FoS:Isa

no. no fence sitting.

[Kcdaspot]

This wagon on project is lol.

Good or bad?

[Kcdaspot]

2. So, what you are trying to say is that I got worried that you called me out for OMGUS'ing, decided to declare you an obvious scum to try to get you lynched, and then I decided to screw with Vifam by saying "why do you think I called David scum?".

Oh man, that's masterful.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: DavidXanthos


Previous post supply nothing but fluff and attack on ProjectMatt is weak at best.


Still not enjoying the Isa wagon.

ummmmmm wat?

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Yeah, I'm done. KDCA is resorting to petty insults and apparently fails to grasp the idea of a vote for reaction. If I say someone is scum, it is then my dedicated read. A+

Also, it's scummy to FOS people FOR NO REASON AT ALL or if it has NO LOGIC WHATSOEVER. Like what you are doing right now. With that being said, I like to think you are scum so I can excuse this ...logic.

Unvote

Vote: KDCA

EEEEEEEHEHEHEHE

1 V 1

YES YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS

COME PM LET US DUEL.

Srsly: Nothing personal, well and truly. I've been hoping to see you as town one time. It's sad i'll never get too :/

[Kcdaspot]

ProjectMatt isn't scum.


Jesus christ, do you all have a "wagon everyone but scum" as the win con in your role PM?

okay. why?

Now i'm just befuddled.

His defense against my case is just awful.

AND instead of ACTUALLY trying to hunt scum he just votes me, his attacker.

Please help me understand

[Kcdaspot]

one line does not convince me.

[Kcdaspot]

I know right?

Comment on me v. matt?

PEDIT: no not for one post. let her dig her own hole. answer Q above ^^

[Kcdaspot]

Try me.

[Kcdaspot]

also whats you read on me?

[Kcdaspot]

O.O

okay.. first things first.

@ the bit about DH: How? as in the tone?

@ defense: Okay but why is he so intent on me backing off? as to going as far as to vote me?

And at that last bit....


"Both"? .... "BOTH"?

.... ooooooooo kaaaaaaayy.

What made you say that?

[Kcdaspot]

That really scared the fuck out of me?

[Kcdaspot]

REPLACE QUESTION MARK WITH PERIOD.

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if it was a vote it would deserve more scrutiny.

I'd give her one last post to make with some content.

If she really has nothing to say... yep.

PEDIT:

1. kay

2. what? If you're town i'd think you'd have a better reaction than THAT.

3. You're implying 2 scum. A specific number.

hang on PM i'll get back to you inna second.

UNVOTE:

VOTE: Vifam

What do you know about the setup?

[Kcdaspot]

I will endorse a RBT lynch as well.

PEDIT:

You said "both". This implies inside knowledge.

AND DON'T YOU GO PLAYING WIFOM GAMES WITH ME. YOU SEEN MY CASE ON PM YOU KNOW HOW FAR THAT GETS YOU.

[Kcdaspot]

you implied a number.

UNVOTE:
VOTE: projectmatt

IGMEOY Vifam

Don't go scaring me like that again.

[Kcdaspot]

...all right all right.

I'll drop it.

UNVOTE:

[Kcdaspot]

yeah it's overwheliming.

VOTE: RBT

You had your chance and you blew it pretty big.

[Kcdaspot]

Care to make a good post? at all?

[Kcdaspot]

YEEEAAAH Bunny is scum.

[Kcdaspot]

am i voting?

[Kcdaspot]

RBT. I'd like a votecount.

[Kcdaspot]

Thank you RBT. I was beginning to doubt my place and my vote in this game. thank you for reaffirming me.

[Kcdaspot]

me?

[Kcdaspot]

meh i ninja'd you.

okay.

[Kcdaspot]

That's L-1.

Unvote

RBT: Claim.

WHERE HAVE YOU BEEN ALL GAME.

[Kcdaspot]

stormer is scummy as well as jackolope but reading both ISOs..

VOTE: Jackalope

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UNVOTE:

wait wait hold up i'm not liking sunset jumping on jack either...

you know i think should just stay on RBT for now to get a claim so...

with FoS to Jackolope and a IGMEOY to sunset.

PEDIT:

BOOOO ISA. I WANTED TO PUT HIM BACK TO L-2.

[Kcdaspot]

Really need a bigger post from you.

[Kcdaspot]

lookin forward to it.

[Kcdaspot]

doublevoters?

oh shi-

[Kcdaspot]

Hey diddin/sunset:

Odds on both RBT and Jackalope being town.

[Kcdaspot]

for my money i'd call WLC a VI.

[Kcdaspot]

He's given a reason which gives him something. BUT NOT MUCH. I hope he either posts something substantial next time or gets replaced.

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RBT is playing the VI card. we should have more vote on him.

This is a 5 star post.

[Kcdaspot]

Vifam I MIGHT buy. Isa is agreeable. DH you're not touchin.

Why not PM if he's so scummy?

[Kcdaspot]

I agree with vifam.

[Kcdaspot]

whodafux suntail chk?

[Kcdaspot]

I read the vote count incorrectly. Bowser knew what I meant. -_-

did he? then wheres your vote at?

[Kcdaspot]

... I just reread.

Wrath are we srsly gonna let RBT off the hook because of meta? really?

[Kcdaspot]

Cuz if that's is your only town case for him you better find a new reason and quick.

VOTE: RBT

[Kcdaspot]

you know you can bold your concern to notify him and/or PM him about it right?

[Kcdaspot]

L-2 again.

[Kcdaspot]

WLC is advoiding the RBT wagon like the plague.

[Kcdaspot]

< Psychic an shit.

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Chk vote him, vifam hammer.

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... RBT was a bad lynch and i failed to recognize that at the time...

and i realize after a reread that everyone is wrong about PM.

VOTE: Projectmatt

Somebody pull something substantial for a pm-town case Cuz i don't see it.

and also WTF? WC was in the lynch pool.

[Kcdaspot]

... hmm bastard mod..

action:Press the yellow button

juat testing something.

[Kcdaspot]

No i wasn't reaction testing.

just checking to see if it worked.

I was not aware that would be considered "fake".

Sorry mod.

[Kcdaspot]

This is considered a bastard mod. I was checking to see if there are actions some people can make during the day that they have not been told they can or cannot do.

Lesson learned. Let's lynch PM.

[Kcdaspot]

PM called me scum in one post, voted me then dropped the issue altogether with no follow up. give me a bit and i'll dig up more.

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Yeah, I'm done. KDCA is resorting to petty insults and apparently fails to grasp the idea of a vote for reaction. If I say someone is scum, it is then my dedicated read. A+

Also, it's scummy to FOS people FOR NO REASON AT ALL or if it has NO LOGIC WHATSOEVER. Like what you are doing right now. With that being said, I like to think you are scum so I can excuse this ...logic.

Unvote

Vote: KDCA

This

is

my town play. If you try to meta me, you will fail because I attempt to play the exact same way, or play completely and totally differently so people don't meta me. I don't have anything personal against you either, your logic is just really, really hard for me to take calmly.

and that's all he got on me.

but eh, Bunnylover is good, and jackalope is asking for rope as well.

[Kcdaspot]

i think Isa is town TBH.

[Kcdaspot]

diddin he's right that was terribad.

[Kcdaspot]

WLC may in fact be town.

discuss.

[Kcdaspot]

you tryin to quicklynch DH?

[Kcdaspot]

my vote was already justified. my case on him. should be my 3rd post.

I dropped it cuz A. it got nowhere and B. several people noted a town tone in his defenses toward me. I took into account that they were seeing something i wasn't and so I let it lay.

and now I wanna try again.

Just to point out I'm still trying to see a town motive for calling me scum and then dropping it in 3 posts.
SURE, I can take into account the breakdown into account but he hasn't mentioned me since.

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i put "into account" twice in one sentence but yeah.

[Kcdaspot]

Bunny gains scum points.

>one kill last night
>vig

What DO you know about the setup bunny?

[Kcdaspot]

DH you just made me REALLY uncomfortable. is the hammer on RBT your case or is there more?

[Kcdaspot]

*reads iso, rereads and reads again*

Okay i'm sold.

BUT I DON'T WANNA LET PROJECTMATT GO.
UGGH.

DH. ISO Pm. Tell me what you see.

[Kcdaspot]

I mean i go to vote bunny but when i begin to type i get this icky feeling that mattscum will get off the hook.

[Kcdaspot]

hiplop:.. i may be confoosed are you talking DH's vote on bunny? or bunny's hammer?

[Kcdaspot]

vifam shut up. i just realized, we are the VIs.

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Jake doesn't look like a VI. he's scummy.

Diddin is FULL of mixed signals for me now.

Fuck vifam is my only town read anymore.

NO.

IT MEANS WE ARE FULL OF STUPID AND EVERYTHING WE SAY IS WRONG.

WE WILL BE THE PEOPLE SAVED FOR LYLO FOR SCUM KNOWS WE WILL FUCK UP ROYALLY.

I feel like i wanna cry.

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DH is scummy for trying to run up BL for A HAMMER AND TWO POSTS AND NOTHING ELSE.

BL is scummy for her middle of the road ness.

Diddin is sheepy scummy.

Sunset is fucking null.

FUCK. I HAVE NO GOOD READS.


BUT WILL YOU KNOW?

DO REALLY THINK THAT AFTER THOSE TWO FLIPPED THE WAY THEY DID DO YOU REALLY THINK YOU

KNOW

WHO'S TOWN/SCUM?

DO YOU?

FUCKINGFUCKSHITFUCKFUCKITYFUCK

[Kcdaspot]

Strength. yeah. SURE. THAT MATTERS.

[/srcasm]

[Kcdaspot]

wrong read on diddin for me. Diddin just feels like "if it's not this way then it is none of my concern." hella scummy and kinda anti town.

[Kcdaspot]

congrats on making yourself look opportunistic Diddin.

you've now thrown my sexy town read on you ALL TO HELL.

SDGAFSGDFGDSFASDG AND WHERE THE FUCK IS PROJECTMATT.

[Kcdaspot]

SDGAFSGDFGDSFASDG AND WHERE THE FUCK IS PROJECTMATT.

I just got back from labor day things.

I think Hoppster, Vifam, KDCA and hiplop(?) are town. I think Jake, Diddin and a player whom I haven't figured out yet are certainly scum. If you want me to explain these town reads, then I will. Otherwise I'm going to not elaborate on my town tells because my reads are generally ignored anyway.

Question then PM.

You had a sure as fuck scum read on me.

WHERE THE FUCK DID THAT GO, AND WHY DID YOU NOT ADDRESS ME FOR THE REST OF THAT DAY?

[Kcdaspot]

so the whole thing was just AtE hogwash?

[Kcdaspot]

matt does this game suck?

[Kcdaspot]

i'm frustrated.

welp

UNVOTE:

Anything against you is pointless.

I'm sure you're scum but in the end i prolly won't be able to vote you. GG

i hope i'm less depressed tomorrow.

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Why are you sure? Why will you not be able to vote me? Come on now, give me something.

I won't be able to lynch you.

why?

C9++.

in short i can't read you, I never will be able to, even when you're scum and i have a good case you'll just skate on by everyone's radar, therefore in any scenario you win.

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post.

I'd hammer jak. i would.

but i just wanna active lurk this day so bad.

i mean i'll my scumreads are fucking wrong. meaning everything i got is shit.

I'm not giving up. i'd just rather calm down and come back to this thanx.

[Kcdaspot]

meta is terrible.

if jak flips scum, DH comes under scrutiny.

I'll be L-1, if no objections.

[Kcdaspot]

Posting.

I've been away. And i will legitimately say that i have no intent on catching up right now.

in fact i might replace out. stay tuned.

[Kcdaspot]

not replacing.

not catching up to quickly either.

tomorrow will be catchup day.

[Kcdaspot]

Chk i'm lying?

here we go

[Kcdaspot]

I believe the stork claim.

Hoppster WILL. NOT. BE. LYNCHED. EVER.

Hopps is wrong thoo.

VOTE: WLC

Tha case on him is hella sexy.

Also my "projectmatt is scum" fire is reignited. Will vote him next.

[Kcdaspot]

yeah chk that post terribad.

[Kcdaspot]

Jak you're lucky you're town.

[Kcdaspot]

jak's starting to make sense. but is a little overzealous. TBH i'm still hesitating on chkscum here folk but his play seems to be subpar this game.

[Kcdaspot]

yoshi's cookies?

[Kcdaspot]

they weren't in any yoshi games as i recall.

[Kcdaspot]

not in super mario world nor yoshi's island nor yoshi story.

[Kcdaspot]

^worst hop ever.

[Kcdaspot]

My bad bowser.

/lastpost.

[Kcdaspot]

meh i still don't like it much.

but hey if that his meta.

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: PROJECTMATT

round 3

[Kcdaspot]

Vifam yes, DH... meeeeh

[Kcdaspot]

Kcdaspot, you're town I'm pretty sure, but please ditch your reads, they're terribad.

no.

[Kcdaspot]

3 reasons why. go.

[Kcdaspot]

"they're terribad" is not a reason.

[Kcdaspot]

3 reasons:

1. Projectmatt
2. Projectmatt
3. Projectmatt

and not much else except for big wagons: WLC, RBT, Jak. And you did NOT switch your vote to diddin.

I mean, I think you're town because you were off of xeras but goddamn.

wait how in the fuck am i still a town read?

switch shoes and buddy we'd have a brawl.

[Kcdaspot]

"I think you're town because you were off of xeras but goddamn"

I literally just copypasted

i don't get it.

[Kcdaspot]

DH: how about Cele or Warrior?

[Kcdaspot]

WLC AND VIFAM ARE TOWN.

Can we put our votes on someone who's actually scum please

Like who?

@KDCA, I thought I was your top scum suspect.

You are, i'm just throwing names out

[Kcdaspot]

Okay so DH being like this is town.

fine.

VOTE: sunset

I want to hear something that makes PM town or who else is scum along with sunset.

[Kcdaspot]

..from DH no less.

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PM: i'm letting you go. If you're scum i'm never playing with you in another game again. not because you were bad but because i hate you for being so damned unlynchable.

VOTE: Bunnylover

dat post. I get bad vibes about it. very bad.

[Kcdaspot]

I need to figure out if its your power that we babies need.

Bl, you're trying to imply something here and i'm going to ask: do you believe all babies are town?

[Kcdaspot]

more importantly why in the godly fuck should he target YOU? what if your power does nothing but becomes a neighbor? why would you want to potentially waste it like that?

[Kcdaspot]

Hi, Implosion. Nice to see you on forum mafia. Why don't you look for that answer yourself and return to us with your results?

Also, I'm not sold on Sunset being scum at all. Maybe I fall for these things way too easily,

but I found it very curious that one person from the hydra gave a scum read on me, and then the other hydra decided to correct him and say that I was town. It was just some kind of bi-polar change of opinion that I don't understand why scum would logically perform. Need to look back and get actual scum reads.

every time i leave your wagon it's because someone else is legitimately more scummier or someone has made a really good point for someone's lynch.

AND EVERY TIME I DO YOU ALWAYS SHOVE A FENCEPOST UP YOUR ASS AND YOU BECOME SCUMMY AS FUCK.

GOD DAMMIT. STOP IT.

SOLID READS. NOW.

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I explained where I thought Sunset towntold. I'm working on solid reads. I'm not going to out something I'm 100% confident in.

44 PAGES IN.

THE LOAD ISN'T GETTING LIGHTER.

DH: TELL ME YOU SEE THIS.

TELL ME I'M NOT ALONE.

[Kcdaspot]

49.. goddamn.

I honestly do not know why i'll never get my PM lynch. I have fucking clue.

[Kcdaspot]

"I have NO fucking clue."

[Kcdaspot]

Sunset

THE ONLY OTHER TIME YOU MENTION SUNSET.



VOTE: PROJECTMATT


WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASDGDFSSDGAGSDFHDRTGJSRFJRHNRFJHSWGJSDRFT

[Kcdaspot]

VICTORY MUTHAFUCKERS

[Kcdaspot]

TYPETYPETYPETYPE
SCUMSCUMSSCUM

IT'S OVER NOW. LET'S SEE WHO YOUR BUDDIES ARE.

[Kcdaspot]

BAAAAAAWWWW SCUM LEAVE GO BYEBYE.

[Kcdaspot]

YOU "OFFICIALLY ELABORATED"

WHERE

SUNSET

TOWNTOLD

GAME MUTHAFUCKING OVER.

YOU DISTANCED HARDCORE ON A ALREADY SCUMMY SLOT AND WHEN HE'S BROUGHT UP? "HE'S TOWN LOL"

BYE PROJECTMATT

FINALLY

OH SO FINALLY

I LYNCH YOU AND YOU ARE SCUM

SWEET SWEET VICTORY.

[Kcdaspot]

I explained where I thought Sunset towntold.

I'm working on solid reads. I'm not going to out something I'm 100% confident in.

[Kcdaspot]

Hi, Implosion. Nice to see you on forum mafia. Why don't you look for that answer yourself and return to us with your results?

Also, I'm not sold on Sunset being scum at all. Maybe I fall for these things way too easily,

but I found it very curious that one person from the hydra gave a scum read on me, and then the other hydra decided to correct him and say that I was town. It was just some kind of bi-polar change of opinion that I don't understand why scum would logically perform. Need to look back and get actual scum reads.

NOT ONCE IN THIS FUCKING POST DO YOU EVER,

EVER

EV-ER

SAY SUNSET WAS TOWN BECAUSE.

YOU HAVE NOT EVEN SAID SHIT ABOUT HIM 'TIL NOW, WHEN HE'S BROUGHT UP OFFICIALLY.

DISTANCE HARDER

PM AND SUNSET BUDDIES FOR THE EVER LOVING WIN.

SWING MUTHAFUCKA SWING

[Kcdaspot]

Hardcore waffling at it's finest.

just watch now: he'll call me scum again! watch!

[Kcdaspot]

oh boo he's not here now....

i has sad

[Kcdaspot]

HI

[Kcdaspot]

again you never said it was a town tell. and you've NEVER BROUGHT THEM UP.

[Kcdaspot]

HI

I feel violated.

[Kcdaspot]

HI

I feel violated.

Stop fluffing. Reads on the playerlist.

KCD, please stop fluffing as well. It's alerting everyone far too much. And you're murdering pages.

it's what i do. deal wit it.

I got content too. as long as PM scum swings nows i feel goods and warms and fuzzys on the in sides.

[Kcdaspot]

After putting Matt in iso, I can see some scumminess behind his posts.

Unvote,
Vote ProjectMatt

That being said, I still suspect Manho.

this happened in 15 minutes? noted.

PEDIT: Panic more. It isn't. and you've never answered WHY YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS UP TIL NOW.

PPEDIT: SCUM CLAIM

[Kcdaspot]

...Where do you see a claim of any kind? Listen to my fucking logic and stop being sure that you're right. I want a logical explanation. I'm having trouble swallowing that I'm getting wagoned on because I pointed out a towntell on another player.

Damn i'm good.

you don't see the logic huh? you don't know why you're being wagoned?

Logick: "Oh dear my partner WHO I'VE NEVER MENTIONED is getting wagoned. I better quail the towns fear and say that I see a towntell. Maybe that will get them off thier back!"

AND ONTO YOURS!

[Kcdaspot]

It's because you've never mentioned sunset OVER THE COURSE OF TWO FREAKING DAYS and then all of a sudden he has a towntell on him.

Nope.

Xeras: That WAS kinda quick. just made me O.o

PEDIT:

Cuz you're scum kay?

[Kcdaspot]

now you hit the panic button when you not only defended you half assed defence of your buddy but now it's all like OH SHIT THEY WAGONING ME WATTHEFUUUUUK.

face it you're done.

PEDIT: HOW IN THE FUCK CAN I DO THAT WHEN I HAVE MY LOGIC? I'M NOT YOU DUMBASS.

[Kcdaspot]

TheJakalope - Town because of his claim and because of his enthusiasm and leading personality after he claimed.

Kcdaspot - Probably town just because he towntells over and over and over.

chkflip - Probably town for actually attempting to contribute.

DemonHybrid - Also probably town, switch on my wagon was bizarre though.

Xeras - Scum. See few latest posts.

hiplop - Town.

WeyounsLastClone - Also scum.

manho - Not sure.

Sunset - Lean town, IDK.

Vifam - Town?

Warrior- Probable scum for not paying enough attention to look at the first page and see what RBT has flipped. I'm interested in later content, though.

David Xanatos - Probably scum.

I'm not even sure who I left out. Those are just my top reads from the players that come to my head. I have four probable scum in there, I probably misread a lot.

WTG on a shitlist, which you admit to. WTG.

NO YOU FUCKING LOOK AT ALL THE PLAYERS AND EVALUATE THEIR PLAY. THEN YOU SEE IF IT'S TOWN OR SCUM. NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE. AS TOWN, IF SUNSET WAS TOWN SCUM OR NULL YOU WOULD HAVE MENTIONED HIM BEFORE THIS. BUT NOPE! PAGE 7. THAT IT. FIRST AND LAST TIME. 42 pages later: "OH WAIT HE TOWN TELLED." NOPE NOPE NOT BY A LONG SHOT

[Kcdaspot]

Sunset is sitting sitting on a scum PR. and PM is trying to stop him from being took out of play.

[Kcdaspot]

Unvote

It's time to quicklynch David Xantos. He is scum.

Vote: David Xantos

Fail reaction is fail.

I feel that there can't be two townies who ask the same exact anti-town question in a row. We can PoE through them if need be, but there's so much scum motivation between the two of them that I feel one of them need to die.

Why are you setting us up for two specific lynches?

Asking somebody to explain their read isn't any kind of tell at all. Don't be that person.

DH is scum for being paranoid? wat?

I feel that there can't be two townies who ask the same exact anti-town question in a row. We can PoE through them if need be, but there's so much scum motivation between the two of them that I feel one of them need to die.

Why are you setting us up for two specific lynches?

Asking somebody to explain their read isn't any kind of tell at all. Don't be that person.

Why is David scum?


At least bother to answer the question that started DH's derp vote on Xeras.

Why do you think I'm calling David scum?

WIFOM.

Good enough.

Unvote

Did you honestly expect me to have a solid scum read on page one? The purpose was to get out of RVS conversation going.

BACKPEDAL HARDCORE

No.

I'm saying that the fact that this happened:

Followed by this:

within the span of 5 minutes is fucking weird, and that I don't think that the BOTH of them could be town.

..Why? If a player says that "we should quicklynch player x, he's mafia!", the expected response to such a question is why? Both town and scum would be curious as to why somebody said this. Explain the scum motivation.

Yeah um no. You trying to falsify info here. Scum you try and exploit it. DH had a good reaction coming off of it so: fail

I don't thin scum would look so obvious out of the gate.

This was directed at the Isa wagon, right? You think that a scum would intentionally act obvious? No. A scum can act scummy unintentionally. This logic hurts my head.

Vote: Xeras

Thinking hurts your head? kay. Nice WIFOM again.

My bad. Your logic is still a tad illogical though.

Good news is, I was wrong about me finding it weird and Xeras/Vifam are probably town. See how magical RVS is?

I don't like this post. Did Xeras and Vifam objectively towntell to you, or did they just prove that you were attacking them based off of faulty logic? Why are they now town reads?

Says the non contributor.

Just in case you didn't know, the vote on David wasn't a "joke". It was a pressure builder and an attempt to get the discussion out of RVS.

I'm not going to jot down a list of my reads because I would be lying if I told you I had a specific scum read.

With that being said..

Unvote

Bunnylover

for this post:

@Sunset: I do not do catch-up post. Kinda useless to make a stand on something that has already ended imo.

and this cam NEARLY 100 POSTS LATER!

lurklurklurklruk HEY I'LL FAKEVOTE BUNNY FOR LULZ

LET'S NOT FORGET.

[Kcdaspot]

Mod: can you spoiler that please? thanks.

[Kcdaspot]

Way to go.

So why did you not mention him before?

[Kcdaspot]

You looked at him. certianly you would have said a read before then RIGHT?

Vifam shut up. NO MC pl0x lynch PM.


LOL LOL LOL

[Kcdaspot]

YOU DIDn'T NEED TOO? NO. HE WASN'T BEING WAGONED BACK THEN.

YOU DIDN'T NEED TO PROTECT YOUR BUDDY

[Kcdaspot]

BULL SHIT.

[Kcdaspot]

YOU DIDn'T NEED TOO? NO. HE WASN'T BEING WAGONED BACK THEN.

YOU DIDN'T NEED TO PROTECT YOUR BUDDY

[Kcdaspot]

You looked at him. certianly you would have said a read before then RIGHT?

Vifam shut up. NO MC pl0x lynch PM.


LOL LOL LOL

It's a pretty big fucking deal.


I'm serious, if any PR's visited me in the night, speak up now, or I swear to god.

JUST FUCKING CLAIM MILLER

[Kcdaspot]

YAYAYAYAY DH FINALLY SEES IT.

LYNCH TIME HAPPY PARADE.

Xeras is town.

[Kcdaspot]

I

was

responding to it. Maybe you didn't see?

Vifam: is the guy you mention a scumread of yours PRIOR to the visit?

[Kcdaspot]

Geez Sorry.

I'm just ecstatic that i caught scum.

Calm down.

i'm not gonna post the same quote hundreds of times. Nor am i going to be a complete dick. i AM going to be a dick but not a COMPLETE dick.

cool?

Xeras has it right.

[Kcdaspot]

Geez chk i do enjoy playing with you but this is how I actually am when this happens.

Srsly i'm bouncing in my seat waiting for the scumflip.

[Kcdaspot]

warrior next

[Kcdaspot]

next to claim *

[Kcdaspot]

warrior: did you PM the mod to check?

[Kcdaspot]

I think projectmatt is town. His defence is not good, but think it does not come from scum.

I think I have just committed a scumtell in kcd's point of view.

First go round i didn't get onto vifam for this.

Explain more.

[Kcdaspot]

Manho are you kidding me?

Why have you never looked at PM uptil now?

[Kcdaspot]

FFS I MADE A DAMNED CASE ON HIM D1.

NO MENTION EITHER.

PM flips scum = manho under a huge fucking microscope.

ALSO BEFORE PM COMES IN ALL WILLY NILLY

You were scummy to me before you mentioned sunset. That action was the kicker.

Manho had no scummy points for me uptil now. He needs to be looked at but there is a better lynch.

[Kcdaspot]

I still support a PJ lynch for today, but

HoS: Warrior

no need warrior is dead tonight anyway. lest scum lucked out with a roleblock

[Kcdaspot]

umm point to WLC.

Is it that they visited you WITH a passive ability or THAT they HAVE a passive ability and visited you?

[Kcdaspot]

Shyguy is a null claim. They WERE a baddie. BUT it could swing either way.

[Kcdaspot]

I have a case on him. and then this happened.

[Kcdaspot]

I want vifam to come back and explain himself first.

claim regardless.

both of you look shady as fuck.

Vifam misremembering his role is doubleplusungood.

[Kcdaspot]

REREAD.

HE SAID RANMARU.

[Kcdaspot]

l33t ninja skillz.

[Kcdaspot]

Manhos plan is awesome.

[Kcdaspot]

manho that is a poorly put together list. especially the bit about sunset and BL being null.

anyway:

EMERGENCY V/LA My power is gonna go out tomorrow. I don't know when is it gonna come back.

Replace me if it takes longer than 4 days.

Peace.

[Kcdaspot]

Back.

You know who i'd rather have over vifam/warrior after molla? sunset.

[Kcdaspot]

... i said molla. i meant projectmatt.


DERP

[Kcdaspot]

Why are you confirmed town...

multiple reasons, now bus sunset

no. YOU vote PM.

[Kcdaspot]

oh how wrong you are.

scum can be active too.

[Kcdaspot]

Why are you confirmed town...

multiple reasons, now bus sunset

no. YOU vote PM.

no. YOU vote Sunset

later. PM > Sunset with warrior/vifam discussion tomorrow

FTR, if warrior doesn't die vifam is not a lock for scum by any means.

my only reasoning is bastardmod.

[Kcdaspot]

that statement CAN work vice versa

[Kcdaspot]

I don't want to see a reason like that if I live tomorrow. This is no good.

1. You can't try to to account for bastardmod thats ridiculous.

2. We already have two completely BS excuses from Vifam that I can't believe people buy, you don't need to come up with another for him.

I'm definitely expecting everyone to lynch vifam tomorrow, no more excuses.

I get your case. vifam: YOU VISIT ME YOU DIE TOMORROW NIGHT lol.

So what IS he?

a... one shot, reaction poisoner?

That's kind of far-fecthed however you spell it.) even for a bastard mod. It seem both more likely and easy for say a mafia watcher to watch himself, see you and say OMG INVESTIGATIVE ROLE. KILL HIM TOMORROW NIGHT.

But as it stands this argument is incredibly swingy. there are points for town v. scum on both sides and even points for town on town. I'd rather see what happens first.

But by the by, I don't like your reaction. The more this goes the scummier it feels. Yes this means i'm siding with Vifam on this. Let me put it like this: if you flip VT or get janitored or something weird, Vifam would come under HEAVY FIRE.

Long story short if he's not telling the truth he's dying no matter what.

[Kcdaspot]

This would be the second attempt at a death-flip connecting to "confirm" scum as town. Just a thought.

which won't work if all scenario's are explored. There is no way right now to say "this person is 100% scum if X happens" in this whole situation.

[Kcdaspot]

Wait. Are we going with a ProjectMatt lynch again?

I feel as if a manho lynch is better. ~^

manho is the VI.

what game you playin?

[Kcdaspot]

Warrior: respond to 1484 plz.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm talking about today Isa.
Vifam started today by getting everyone to claim even though he was only looking for me, then we've been tunneling each other since.
I'm pretty sure his "reads" would change if he's town.

@kcda- are you asking me what I think his role is?

i just wanna see what you think about my post.

[Kcdaspot]

ok guys

what?

[Kcdaspot]

hello?

[Kcdaspot]

truth^

I think they all are just trying to be hipsters.

"I was voting him... before when voting him was cool."

"I'd join the Projectmatt wagon but it's too mainstream."

hey wait this is fun... i'm gonna do this next game.

[Kcdaspot]

but there is only the part of provability that still exists.

from the outside you have X and Y, Y said X will die tonight cuz he Y was visited by X.

X says it isn't true and calls Y scum.

The key here is the claim of X dying tonight. It's provable. i'm forced to ask why would scum put themselves in that position? it's akin to claiming vig as scum. It's only good for a temporary fix. now as it stands he hasn't back off the claim even after questioning by multiple people. belief in his PR goes up, and so does the consequence of lying. why would scum make such a useless gambit? the second something goes wrong it simply a countdown to lynch.

I have no choice but see what happens. It does nothing but provide good info sit and wait in this scenario.

[Kcdaspot]

townwarrior may see the obv lie but it's not that obv in 3rd person.

My thing? why are you so worried about this? it's been the main focus of this whole thing. you know if you flip town vifam come under heavy scrutiny right? so why so aggro NOW? if he botched his claim it will be VERY easy to see and lynch. think about the scenarios that happen if we see what happens. three possiblities: A. You don't die, vifam get caught, under heavy scrutiny/lynched. B. you flip town, vifam gets caught, under heavy scrutiny/lynched. C. you flip scum, vifam goes free and everything goes on.

C gets crossed out in your mind so look at what that leaves us.

both times he gets heavy pressure and we'll be able to see if he is scum or not. most likely he'll be lynched.

all and all this situation does nothing but BENEFIT YOU AS TOWN. all you have to do is sit back and enjoy vifam's getting caught. but no, you're getting all antsy over his lynch.

why?

can someone else look at this post and give a analysis? other than vifam or warrior.

[Kcdaspot]

In all honesty i don't think anyone is holding their breath BL.

hey WLC: vote projectmatt.

[Kcdaspot]

oh and going off of my 1504 it's probable that warrior is scum for the reaction from vifam.

PEDIT: meeeeeh nullish town. note to self to read him more thoroughly later.

[Kcdaspot]

Can you read the recent contradictions I pointed out, please?

what contrdiction?

even after isoing you I see nothing wrong about chks posting.

hell you may of just mentioned him like what once or twice?

naahhh

i wanna see you flip before anything now.

[Kcdaspot]

reread chk. yeah hes town.

[Kcdaspot]

Geez Sorry.

I'm just ecstatic that i caught scum.

Calm down.

i'm not gonna post the same quote hundreds of times. Nor am i going to be a complete dick. i AM going to be a dick but not a COMPLETE dick.

cool?

Xeras has it right.

I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum because of previous games in the past

that you are refusing to look out of your shell and actually see any of my tells or use solid logic.

... oh hello.

[Kcdaspot]

[quote="In

I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum

because of previous games in the past

... oh hello.

i still think projectmatt is town.

see the scumclaim?

[Kcdaspot]

I feel like you are too excited to catch me as scum

because of previous games in the past

... oh hello.

i still think projectmatt is town.

see the scumclaim?

[Kcdaspot]

i'm not saying manho scumclaimed but i was answering him.

[Kcdaspot]

I'm scum and i don't wanna be lynched so here's a wall.

[Kcdaspot]

The "no reason" thing apply.

you were already scummy to begin with.

see: my case on you D1.

[Kcdaspot]

doesn't apply.

you only proved my scumread on you.

[Kcdaspot]

I'd vote Xeras for that hammer but yeah... I'll just shut up.

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: sunset

[Kcdaspot]

Slight Fos to Jaka.

[Kcdaspot]

I pushed his lynch because I saw NOTHING but AtE out the ass.

I put forward a case. He even seemed to scum claim in his last few posts.

I was morbidly wrong. tis why i'm going to put less forward today.

Where sunset and why has he not commented on votes on him?

[Kcdaspot]

LOL. You serious bro?

mmmmmmm. nope not gonna go off. learned my lesson.

[Kcdaspot]

imp seems fishy to me with that post.

[Kcdaspot]

hiplop shut up.

[Kcdaspot]

you see why i now think xeras may be scum? That was not a 5 star post people.

[Kcdaspot]

VOTE: Vifam

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not anti-town.

just really really stupid.