SMBM II: Defense of Yoshi's Island (Final! MVPs announced!)

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VOTE: kcda

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Your name is not bold in the opening post.

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Why is David scum?

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I feel that there can't be two townies who ask the same exact anti-town question in a row. We can PoE through them if need be, but there's so much scum motivation between the two of them that I feel one of them need to die.

So... asking someone about their opinion in reads is scummy....

No.

Unvote, Vote DemonHybrid

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Tch. I am going back to my 'people who have not confirmed' vote.

Unvote, Vote: Diddin

I don't thin scum would look so obvious out of the gate.

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Nah, it was based on my unvote of DH...

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Unvote, Vote RBT L-2

I wasn't sure if I was going to vote for you, after making a slightly defensive post for Bunnylover. Yeah, she wasn't in danger, but it feels like you were putting wine in front of us when you flipped the scum.

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... I just reread.

Wrath are we srsly gonna let RBT off the hook because of meta? really?

I agree. Meta should not always be the final say in who is scum, and who is not. I always switched my meta around between scum and town strategies, thus throwing people off guard.

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I have never used my math and science for a game this big, but if things follow the same trends, either Jak or kcda is scum.

Vote: TheJakalope

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So... I got prodded...

I will post more when I

finally

get a day off. ^^

I still am thinking that Jakalope is scum though.

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Meh.

I am not sure if I want to keep pressing a Jakalope wagon... but his claim may be a good bluff. ^^

Let's say he is a Mafia Role Cop (Or something similar), and investigated someone. Then he received a result that hinted at a baby type role...

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So why are you voting for WLC?

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WLC, Jakalope claimed 'Stork'. He can investigate 'baby' characters. If they turn up to be a baby character, they get a quicktopic.

Do you buy this claim?

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Hmm... It seems like there is a stork character then...

Unvote, Vote Kcda

I will still be breathing down your neck, Jakalope.

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Got a few pages to read, had to fill in for work the past 3 days ":(

I know exactly what you mean. I had to work 6 days, then got one day off.... then work 9 days... with one day off... all while being shorthanded.

Manho, what exactly makes you think that chk is town? Is it his claim?
Also, did you just softclaim? Can it be that you wanted us to think you did?

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Unvote, Vote WLC

To be honest, I would rather lynch someone trying to claim to be a Yoshi right now... But it doesn't look like that is going to happen, so I am going to hop on the WLC wagon...

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Unvote,
Vote Diddin.

I prefer someone get lynched, other than no one. When no one gets lynched, it just helps the mafia.

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Tch.

I am starting to think that manho is scummier more and more.

Manho

- Please state a reason for voting for me other than being 'wishy washy'. Going over your iso, you seem quite 'wishy washy' yourself... well when you wasn't pushing the RBT so hard.

And with that,

Vote: Deadline Extension
Vote: Manho

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xeras is town iff diddin is scum. so we are lynching one of them today. i'm inclined on lynching xeras. scum with day-vig is possible, but i would say the chance is not high.

Going for the double mislynch eh?

I am willing to bet that diddin is not scum. I also know it is fact that I am not scum.

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I want to make sure I got this straight.

People started a bandwagon on diddin.
Diddin claimed to be a dayvig Yoshi
People wanted him to prove it by killing stormer
stormed dies
Everyone then starts to bandwagon again because of

Flavor

Flavor is flavor. It should never be used as a basis for scumhunting.

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And WLC: It doesn't matter what alignment Xeras is. diddin's play has been terrible independent of that but a strive for a Xeras mislynch makes sense in the diddin is scum context.

You can't have the conclusion "xeras is town" when Diddin has not flipped scum. I think that DH may be scum with xeras. But we need to lynch xeras or Diddin first.

I am still seeing you as scum...

To everyone, if you see a button, and are told not to press it, would you press it?

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I

still

think that the wagon on diddin is dumb.

Let's play a game.

If you were a game mod, what kill flavor would you give a vig yoshi?

[/outguessingthemod]

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Xeras, why are you always asking these odd questions that aren't really helping us progress?

You may find them erratic, but in all honesty, asking questions that people do not expect is one way to get scum to slip.

I strongly believe that Isa is town based on his response to my question. Furthermore, I am willing to bet that DH has a decent chance to be town. I am still on the fence about diddin. Can someone give me somewhat of a case that does not include the word 'eat' or any variation of 'eat', and that does not refer to flavor.

Also, I am quite confident with my scumread on manho...

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Unvote, Vote Diddin

I guess it's going to have to be this way.

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Vote: Manho

My gut says that you are scum. ^^

Ah, and why do you think Isa is town?

[Xeras]

After putting Matt in iso, I can see some scumminess behind his posts.

Unvote,
Vote ProjectMatt

That being said, I still suspect Manho.

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After putting Matt in iso, I can see some scumminess behind his posts.

Unvote,
Vote ProjectMatt

That being said, I still suspect Manho.

this happened in 15 minutes? noted.

PEDIT: Panic more. It isn't. and you've never answered WHY YOU HAVEN'T MENTIONED THIS UP TIL NOW.

PPEDIT: SCUM CLAIM

Wait what. Are you trying to say that I can't read anything of value in fifteen minutes?

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When ProjectMatt flips scum, I can say that from his list that manho, vifam and sunset are probably scum. But before I commit to Vifam being scum, I want to read his iso instead of basing it on someone else's list.

That will be after I get done carefully reading PM's Iso.

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Ah, that's right. Vifam was the one fishing.
I have had gut feelings about Manho being scum for a while.
While I am not completely convinced about Sunset being scum, I can honestly say that the chances severely increase if PM is scum.
And PM is obvious scum. I cannot believe I missed it until now.

I stay say that:
Isa and Demonhunter are town.

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You looked at him. certianly you would have said a read before then RIGHT?

Vifam shut up. NO MC pl0x lynch PM.


LOL LOL LOL

It's a pretty big fucking deal.


I'm serious, if any PR's visited me in the night, speak up now, or I swear to god.

Why are you sticking to the loud obnoxious fishing. If you are looking for something specific, releasing a few details in an odd manner would be more efficient.

How about this. Why do you think that someone visited you?

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YAYAYAYAY DH FINALLY SEES IT.

LYNCH TIME HAPPY PARADE.

Xeras is town.

Why are you, Xeras and Demon ignoring anything I say?

Because I am not going to respond to someone flailing around. Anything I say will end up being twisted by you, I am sure. It's safer for the town if I don't talk much to scum.

I say your obvious because of the way your ISO flows.

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So, are we massclaiming or what? I'd like to go first.

How about this. If you claim I will. <3

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Demonhunter. I may have missed it, but why are you so sure that Vifam is town?

[Xeras]

So, are we massclaiming or what? I'd like to go first.

How about this. If you claim I will. <3

Okay I am down.

I am just a normal little shy guy. Looking for something.

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Wow. It seems like Ranmaru was replaced by warrior, who has a whole two posts in this thread. -_-

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I had a flu shot that made me sick... otherwise I would be posting more...

Unvote, Vote Manho

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Wait. Are we going with a ProjectMatt lynch again?

I feel as if a manho lynch is better. ~^

[Xeras]

Wait. Are we going with a ProjectMatt lynch again?

I feel as if a manho lynch is better. ~^

manho is the VI.

what game you playin?

VI as in village idiot right? I don't see someone that has played that many games being able to slip by on a VI excuse.

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Black Yoshi? Really? And you had that much information from the mod without knowing your ability?

No way he's town. And if he is it's just sad.

~J

Yeah. I don't believe he is the black yoshi.

Ah. And if I counted right he is still at L-1.

Vote: ProjectMatt

But... not anymore. ;D

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I would vote for Vifam, but I am not sure how far he is from lynch. I want to give him some sort of opportunity to explain.

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No Vifam yet?

Vote: Vifam

I believe that is L-1.

It is time you spoke up about your lies, rolefishing, and everything else.

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Vote BunnyLover

Why is it that the stork didn't die until after he targeted you?

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Vote BunnyLover

Why is it that the stork didn't die until after he targeted you?

Because he stated in the thread that he thought I was Baby Bowser and therefore scum would use that to get me lynch.
Why would I want him to recruit me, then kill him as scum?
All that would prove is that I am a baby.

Here's my problem. I do not have a baby role. All I know is that my role depends on a button. Here's what I am thinking. A baby role must be activated (similar to the buttons) through the stork. Now, it is no secret that you were really pressuring Jak to target you. So, here is my though process. Jak activated your scum ability (finally) so there was no more use for the stork for the mafia. So the mafia killed him.

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we're killing sunset guys, I have a guilty on him ._.

IF you are lying, then you are next.

Unvote, Vote Hiplop

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Er...

I meant

Unvote, Vote Sunset

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Yeah I'm definitely confident one or two of his buddies just bussed so they wouldn't come under scrutiny today.

I'm comfortable with that. Very few left; they will fall soon.

I wouldn't be too surprised if you were the one...

I am think along the lines of Bunnylover and manho scum.

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Vote: Bunnylover

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Fine then. I started off as a normal shy guy. If I understood everything right, my role is basically a universal back up role. As soon as we killed the green yoshi, I turned into a green shy guy. I have no idea what my ability does, but I wanted to make it look like I was 'powerless'.

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Most likely. All I was told was that I don't know what my ability does yet.

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Regarding claims, a Shy Guy being aligned with the Islanders doesn't sit well with me so I kinda suspect Xeras still as well

I'm a shy guy,

Yeah, great job covering for your scumbuddy.

Seriously?

Unvote,
Vote WLC

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Unvote

After rereading a bit, I feel as if WLC is just... slow, and not scum. This close to the end, I would rather avoid a mislynch, so instead,

Vote Kcdaspot

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Meh, I will play along, since it looks like I won't get a kcda lynch.

Unvote,
Vote David

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Tch.

Wasn't the plan to lynch kcda?

But I guess that manho makes a strong case....

Vote Bunny

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Myuu.

Since all the buttons are destroyed... I think everyone should come forward with any information that may have gained from their 'button' powers. Who knows what the blue button may have done? Might as well get it in the open.

Furthermore, kcda is cleared from wlc's claim. Though, what happens if they are both scum? The alibi wouldn't work so well... if we lynched one of them perhaps.

Vote: Kcda

Let's do this properly this time. <3

(Ah, and with what I am proposing... I am a green shy guy, and the green button was never activated.)

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Myuu.

Since all the buttons are destroyed... I think everyone should come forward with any information that may have gained from their 'button' powers. Who knows what the blue button may have done? Might as well get it in the open.

Furthermore, kcda is cleared from wlc's claim. Though, what happens if they are both scum? The alibi wouldn't work so well... if we lynched one of them perhaps.

Vote: Kcda

Let's do this properly this time. <3

(Ah, and with what I am proposing... I am a green shy guy, and the green button was never activated.)

Yea I've got some results. (the blue button)
I picked up important info last night. (or lack there of)

I was watcher for nights 6 and 7.
Night 6- Watched WLC- no visits
Night 7- Watched Manho- NO VISITS?! (he died last night so this is obviously surprising.)

Scum still have some kind of power/ability...

Myuu. So when the mafia killed someone, no one was able to see who visited him.

So.. then perhaps kcda is some type of ninja type. Making it so he can't be tracked, or watched.

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Question!

Why would I 'kill' the only person that could potentially clear me. Before I even had the chance to even see what the green button would do. If you are lynching me because I claimed shy guy, wouldn't it make more sense for the one who claimed to be a shy guy second to be lynched.

Now, I am not saying that WLC and KCDA both shouldn't be lynched. It is obvious that the mafia may have a ninja, meaning that WLC's tracking would be thrown off.

I am quite sure on kcda, but if I am wrong, my second choice would be BBMolla, just because his slot was pretty much inactive the entire game.

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Implosion, you're on my list of safe lynches - this is your golden chance. Do you have a power relating to the red button (or any other button), and did you have it before day 2? You don't have to make a full claim.

I might as well just claim. I honestly can't see any reason against it. There are better nightkills than me as it is. I'm a shy guy, and my role functions essentially exactly like Xeras' role, down to having an ability that I don't know what it does and can't use it. I gained that ability when Parabollocks absorbed the red button.

Right now, I'm a red shy guy. Either there are multiple shy guys (possible) or the scum have some kind of role that prevents buttons from being destroyed and were given a shy guy fakeclaim (also possible). So setup spec is basically useless.

At some point, it'd probably be a good idea to do something more thorough with regards to the flipped scum, but I looked at the beginning of Sunset's ISO last night and in the first post where he gave all his reads the bunnylover read felt like it could have been on a scumbuddy (something felt more manufactured, i guess, idr exactly why) especially when, iirc, reads on diddin and vifam were both nulltown and the read on bunnylover was nullscum. I could see scum giving 2 nulltown and 1 nullscum read on their scumbuddies, especially when i think the nullscum read was something about wanting bunnylover to do more.

How many scum are we expecting there to be in this game?

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ahh, now wait why would you guys inherit powers when you now don't have the means?

Now you are just twisting things. ~^

I turned into a Green Shy Guy at the beginning of day 2.

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Not scum.

But tempted to self hammer. I hate drawing things out. >>