Video Game UPick Mafia (Game Over)

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Vote: Maruchan

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Everyone else should follow my lead.

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I am town at least twice as often as scum.

Gambler's Fallacy.

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Oh yeah, speaking of softclaims(thanks Deke), I'm a miller. Or, more specifically, any and all alignment divining results give the opposite result.

Make of that what you will.

I am very comfortable lynching Maruchan today.

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Hey, Dekes, I'll answer your questions towards me.

I literally forgot. I saw Maruchan's post and was like "holy fuck we need to lynch this guy" and I forgot that I needed to claim miller right away. You softclaiming reminded that I needed to claim that crucial part of my role so that cops don't waste an investigation on me.

BTW Maruchan, my using ongoing games is specfically only that I know that you are most likely a liability to any town you are a member of. I am comfortable lynching you any time, any game.

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Yes, I wouldn't let you near any sort of power role.

Are you seriously fullclaiming already?

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Oh the irony.

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Guys, you're doing it wrong. Your post should look like this.

Unvote
Vote: Maruchan

See that?

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No no no, the point is to vote for Maruchan, not me.

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Lynching Maru is not a potential mislynch. It benefits the town regardless of his alignment.

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"opposite to all investigations"

Yes this is the wording. I was very specific with that on purpose.

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SpyreX: I'm Daniel from Amnesia: the Dark Descent. Me being a miller makes a decent amount of sense if you've played the game or are familiar with the story. Basically, I'm being chased by a nasty dark being and apparently that warps my alignment. Please note that this is inferred from gameplay and isn't my actual role PM flavor. I just have an ability name that alludes to it and then the strange Miller text.

If that makes sense.

kdowns: Look at any of his games. Some of them are ongoing but they should give you the scope of it.

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Why would you pick Amnesia?
That game is fucking creepy ;_;

One of my favorite games of all time man precisely BECAUSE it's so fucking creepy.

Also I wanted to be one of the monsters to fuck with people's sanity, I guess I get to mess with people's sanity in a different, less cool way.

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Maxous: I think the question should be more, "why aren't you (Maxous) voting Maruchan?".

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If I'm not getting my Maru lynch,

Unvote
Vote: kdowns

I guess this is a decent alternative.

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@Vig/Vigs/Serial Killers pretending to be Vigs

- if Meran isn't lynched today please shoot him repeatedly until he's dead. Thank you!

Maru is a good shot too.

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Also Seraphim, Jumping on the Wagon Much?

lol the irony.

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Dramonic, all your posts are 3 words in length. I may not be that great myself, but still.

But on a more serious note, we're also having 3 policy lynches lined up, which is pretty stupid. And I'm not saying that only because one of them is me.

Who is the third?

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Bet nobody can guess what game I am from. it aint no mainstream

Dude, try scumhunting. You know, use your mental capabilities to discern scum.

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This is Mafia, not Be Nice to People. My statement takes precedent.

Also, you'll notice I unvoted you. You have no excuse to not do anything.

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Actually I didn't notice this. Must've been at school. Thursdays are my "I am to worn out to think days" so I usually do my reads on friday and only answer direct questions on thursdays.

What do you do the rest of the days?

Stop making excuses and scumhunt.

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And Maru? Instead of making excuses that I really don't give a shit about, declare V/LA or don't post at all if you're not ready to commit to the game in your exhausted state rather than insulting me and acting like I've personally affronted you by wagoning you.

Play the game.

Not sure what to think of kdown's claim ATM. Do global roleblockers have enough versatility to be possibly worth sacrificing?

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In a game I played once, there was a town aligned doctor. I've seen multiple instances of games where doctors are town. Therefore, all players who claim doctor are town.

Mass or Global Roleblocker is an alignment neutral role that can be viewed in multiple ways. It can be seen as a town way to ensure the Mafia kill and all Mafia actions are blocked that night at the expense of all Town roles losing their actions. Or it can be seen as a Mafia way to ensure that Town don't get off their night actions, especially their investigative ones, at the expense of the Mafia night kill and any other Mafia actions.

It, in effective, is a reverse Beloved Princess, allowing us a double lynch. This could make it a role for either alignment.

My belief is we use it as a double lynch. Today, we lynch someone else, kdowns mass-roleblocks everyone, and then presumably we lynch kdowns unless we decide he's town in the meantime.

BTW, we KNOW he's not fakeclaiming because no scum would be stupid enough to claim a role that changes the game so radically and is so incredibly visible.

Thusly,

Unvote

Vote: WraithChild

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I'm just trying to prove my innocence like everyone says.. In Real Life you are Innocent untill proven Guilty.... In Mafia you're Guilty until proven Innocent.

Who is scum?

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You seem to only be guessing modern-ish video games. why no old-school games from the nineties?

Scumhunt.

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Unvote
Vote: Maruchan

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And what sort of content have you provided Maruchan?

Rayfrost is going DOWN DOWN DOWN to DEATH CAFE as soon as we finish dealing with Maru over here.

And since I've such obv scum, vote me motherfucker, I dare you. Or are you too scared?

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If you can claim to read Maru and are telling me he's town, great.

So long as you can come up with a town motivation for his 27 posts without a vote, his utter lack of scumreads until recently(who happen to be the players getting on his case), making excuses not to scumhunt, and then when he runs out of excuses, he says to stop being his "guardian angle" and that he can scumhunt on his own. Without voting.

Or anything.

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[Seraphim]

It's called "pushing your lynch until people vote you". It's generally a tactic to get someone lynched, see? You should try it sometime.

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Can I have a cookie?

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Why don't you take your own advice bro? I've heard you actually have the capability to actually be a decent player when you, you know, decide to play.

Like, I would seriously be willing to leave you alone if you tried to scumhunt for a while and vote people and pressure them or even sheep people ala vezokpiraka.

I know it seems like you're caving into me(and therefore reason and good play) but trust me, the game is a whole lot more fun when you're voting and wagoning people and yelling at them that they're obvscum rather than just trying to outwit me in a game of petty insults and one-liners. You can do that on any forum. Here, we can lynch them too.


P-EDIT: *sigh*

but I wanted a cookie.

Unvote
Vote: RayFrost

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Redemption, Maru. Can you smell it? Can you smell the flowers of forgiveness? I am not like some people who hold needless grudges. You'll notice I'm not voting for you again. Yes, I wagoned you to L-1, but given your play so far, can you say I didn't have a good reason to? I just want you to play the game and try hunting some scum, seeing as that's what you signed up to do, right?

Why not vote for RayFrost, especially if you're not going to use your vote anywhere else?

Hiraki: why not?

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So how do you explain him saying that SpyreX was one of his strong town reads and then having him lost "faith in my[Rayfrost's] initial good feelings about spyrex" without any posts from SpyreX in between those posts AND something that can be seen as sort of a precursor to actually jumping on the SpyreX wagon or as a prelude to an attack on SpyreX followed by a vote?

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We're not lynching kdowns, MoI, or to some degree SpyreX. GreyICE looks pretty town so far too.

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RayFrost said that SpyreX was one of his strong town reads and then, without any posts from SpyreX in between those posts, lost "faith in my[Rayfrost's] initial good feelings about spyrex", something that can be seen as sort of a precursor to actually jumping on the SpyreX wagon or as a prelude to an attack on SpyreX followed by a vote.

He was setting himself up to vote SpyreX in a scummy and contradictory way.

Also, people voting Maruchan are people cruising for a lynch rather than cruising for scum...he's dead man walking tonight, let's lynch scum please.

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kdowns, who is scum? Why aren't you voting?

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Your lazy day was on Thursday and we've yet to see any sort of real content or voting from you. All you continue to do is whine and complain about my play and say I'm scum and yet do nothing about it.

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Yes. Congrats. Now you're playing the game and I can leave you alone. Can't wait to see you defend that vote!

In the meantime, I would love to hear who MoI thinks is scum and why Meransial thinks I am scum.

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Hey, Ray, did you ever answer what exactly changed between you calling SpyreX town and then feeling less good about those vibes later?

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Approximately 24 hours had passed. Why did that you give you bad vibes?

What do you think of SpyreX now?

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Unvote
Vote: Meransiel

Him getting on the RayFrost wagon just killed my love for it.

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kdowns: are you saying that under no circumstances will you use your ability tonight?

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Also, the reason you use your ability tonight is so that we can get a double lynch today.

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lololololol

no, man. Globular roleblock blocks EVERYTHING. Including other roleblocks. It would be silly otherwise. If it doesn't happen, he's a liar.

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Yeah that would the general point.

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Well, it's only a one shot Maru. So it can be used...once.

You should try reading the game sometime.

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It looks like his only completed game on site is Empking's Dayless Mafia.

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LET'S HANG MERANSIEL. HANG HIM FROM THE RAFTERS.

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Hey Maruchan. You should stop whining and get on the Meransiel wagon.

Does any of Meransiel's posts look like authentic scumhunting to you, snowman?

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It really just looks like he's moving around his vote and trolling for a lynch frankly. I could see him as town but I'm not seeing anyone else I have a particularly strong scum read on right now.

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I might get back on your wagon depending on what Meran flips. If he flips scum, you're pretty much confirmed town IMO.

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It wasn't the jump, it was the contrived way that he did it.

If you were scumbuddies and he was bussing, he would have jumped on, not make up some bullshit "trap" for you.

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Answering prod. More later.

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Unvote
Vote: Meransiel

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His stalling does not imply town intent to me. If he's already decided his claim will save him rather than his play, then he should just claim, not wait for his white knights.

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The difference between your example and the example of Meran is that Meran isn't actively trying to prevent his lynch. I'm sure that if we read your examples, we'd see town-MoI putting up a courageous fight against the forces oppressing him.

Meran is doing no such thing and is merely professing weak promises of "I'm going to tell you so" and variations of the same.

Also, saying that I'm calling for a quicklynch is a little insincere...I want him to claim. Plain and simple. His refusal to claim is stalling up the game. Whether or not he's preparing a fakeclaim is irrelevant. There are no other options at the moment and Meran is certainly not professing them. If we're going to lynch someone else, it won't be because of Meran's play, but his claim.

Tell me, how is that pro-town?

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Deciding not to claim until you're sure you're going to be lynched can be good play, but only when matched with an actual attempt to shake off his lynch.

He instead poorly softclaimed and basically waited to get wagoned further, thus gumming up the works.

Someone should hammer.

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Hiraki, you should hammer.

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Vote: Maxous

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Because he's been cruising this LLD/Maru lynch waaaaaay past its expiration date rather than committing to viable wagons?

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Nope, not at all.

That slot is not scum. Please try again.

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Actually, fuck it.

Unvote
Vote: WraithChild

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Unvote
Vote: Hiraki

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Stop being so stupid and VOTE HIRAKI.

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I'm a guy BTW.

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I think Hiraki is a good lynch today. Wraith at least looks somewhat town in iso.

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Vote: MoI

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MoI, if you're town, you need to calm the fuck down.
This AtE shit you're trying to sell on Fate doesn't look town in the slightest. I know the two of you have a grudge match thing going on, but please act your respective ages and see if we can actually hunt scum.

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Vote: LLD

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I totally want to reiterate that my activity level in a given game = my engagement in said game.

Quite frankly, miller has been really boring lol

Even VT is more interesting than this shit.

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Um.

yeah.

Still a miller.

Um.

I really can't say much.

I guess if you're willing to wait until tomorrow I could reread this shithole but if you guys are all set...

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I guess if you're willing to wait until tomorrow I could reread this shithole but if you guys are all set...

still waiting there, captain content

I decided to hang out with my girlfriend.

So sue me.

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But seriously, there will be content tomorrow. We have more than a week, plus I'm not using my native computer so typing is not as easy as it could be. I started up some stuff and I'll finish tomorrow.

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Vote: Hiplop

L-1.

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Actually.

Unvote

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Consider my vote on him though.

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My useless ass is still an ass of a miller.

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I'll have stuff to say after massclaim is over.

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Vote: Maxous

Let's do this. I'm willing to sheep Fate to victory.

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I'm thinking no lynch.

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If not for MYLO, I would be voting RayFrost right now. I am a SpyreX true believer.

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I am not a VI.

I'm just.

Not helpful.

Vote: RayFrost