Video Game UPick Mafia (Game Over)

[GreyICE]

ToastyToast, look at my signature. -.- And at my dead-in games in my wiki.

I am town at least twice as often as scum.

Signature lies, I just watched you lose as scum.

Lynch all liars.

Vote: Maruchan

[GreyICE]

Clearly making a bad point, then.

Bus you little fucker, bus.

[GreyICE]

Thats... strange.

Strange enough I buy it for sure, but I'm trying to parse out what it actually means.

Who are you?

It means that we have POTENTIAL COP SANITY ISSUES.

Jesus christ. Guilty to all investigations breaks on insane cops and naive cops, because clearly a guilty result when guilty means town (or is impossible) confirms the person town miller, which is rather the POINT of the miller role.

[GreyICE]

VOTE: Hiraki

Will go read now.

Someone vig Meransial tonight, you will make me happy.

[GreyICE]

Kdowns wants to be lynched.

Also he may be scum. Hmmm.

Okay, yeah #95 hurts me where I live.

Vote kdowns

[GreyICE]

MOI

I HATE READING THIS SHIT

IS THIS A NEWBIE BEING OVERCAUTIOUS SHITTOWN OR SCUM BEING OVERCAUTIOUS OBVSCUM?

[GreyICE]

Why is kdowns a policy lynch again?

Vigs, place bullets in Meran until it stops moving.

[GreyICE]

-_-

Cop sanity is guaranteed non-confirmed.

This probably means cops should flip a coin on poking the miller night 1 to check if they're sane or insane. (Whether or not it's a legit miller, he'll legit investigate as scum).

It also makes multiple cop claims slightly more believable.

[GreyICE]

SPYREX

WE MAY COMMENCE THE KILLINGS OF THE FISHING CREW AFTER WE SOLVE THE OBVSCUM INFESTATION IN THIS TOWN.

[GreyICE]

That seems far too ridiculous to not be true. Also you rarely see the premature claim from scum even newbscum.

Unvote

ROLE DOES NOT INDICATE ALIGNMENT

ROLE DOES NOT INDICATE ALIGNMENT

[GreyICE]

Why exactly again do you have your vote parked on Maru again? Because he’s a policy lynch? Are you going to policy lynch Meransiel tomorrow then? At what point do you actually, you know, start hunting scum?

Meransiel hasn't displayed a desire to be actively avoiding the providing of content while being rude in a manner indicative of self-destructive, non-helpful behavior.

Hey snowman, whose scum?

You can park your vote where you want, I get your policy. Now gimme two reads.

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Vote: ToastyToast

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Like the post. Hate the vote. Try again.

[GreyICE]

I want you dead for mental health related reasons. My doctor has informed me that it's dangerous to my sanity for you to remain alive in games I'm in.

Also you're scum this time so well

[GreyICE]

Preferred Lynchlist includes Toast, RayFrost, Scott and Maru
Acceptable Compromises include Meran, Ant, Dram and Hiraki.
Unacceptable for now are MoI, Spy, Sera and Grey.
Curious Case of Benjamin Button is Kdowns. Doesn't feel scum to me.

Certain pings here and there, nothing of great note. Claims have both been just that - claims. Nothing really exceptional to work off of right now with them.

VOTE: ToastyToast

Let's make things interesting.

Interesting indeed.

What would you say if I said I was a dayvig, and about to submit a kill on you for this one post?

[GreyICE]

And what sort of content have you provided Maruchan?

Rayfrost is going DOWN DOWN DOWN to DEATH CAFE as soon as we finish dealing with Maru over here.

And since I've such obv scum, vote me motherfucker, I dare you. Or are you too scared?

Lemme cut you a deal. Maruchan needs bullets like a mofo. His chances of survival are absolute zero. He's like an enormous bullet magnet. This isn't going to change.

So wanna have some fun?

Vote: RayFrost

Isn't this much more interesting?

[GreyICE]

Can I have a cookie?

Nope. Now vote RayFrost, and lets get a wagon going on the town-hunting snowman.

[GreyICE]

Follow your knowledge up with da vote

[GreyICE]

You mean absolutely not under any circumstances lynch today?

Myself and my mason buddy. Duh.

Who do I want to lynch right now? You.

[GreyICE]

SpySpy, you is scum, rights?

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'kay so according to kdowns we have 2 lynch phases now.

And there's like 5 people who need to be dead.

[GreyICE]

The only reason I haven't talked about ant is because I've been lazy and haven't put my list together yet. DOn't think I haven't noticed that 'lil hop of his.

Ohhhh I forgot to turn on my telepathy blinders.

My bad.

GI meransiel blood for blood god?

Oh lord god yes.

Vote: Meransiel

Maruchan actually confuses me at this point. Blah blah blah I hate meta but not only is he better town than this, he's better scum than this. I swear this reads as a 12 year old kid pitching a temper tantrum and hoping we'll lynch him so he can rub it in our faces. In any case the cure for that problem is better nutrition, and he'll get a healthy dose of vitamin lead at some point.

I like Kdowns recent posts, on a scale from 1-10, about -1,500. But

[GreyICE]

AGar. About how much dumber do you think you've gotten from reading that post?

Also: GI / Sera, can you explain why meran is scum and not just mindfuckingly dim?

It is annoying that nobody so far has been ACTUALLY scummy.

Dramonic, all your posts are 3 words in length. I may not be that great myself, but still.

But on a more serious note, we're also having 3 policy lynches lined up, which is pretty stupid. And I'm not saying that only because one of them is me.

Spyrex' jump on me reeks of scum.

VOTE: Spyrex

There are actually reasons for a Sera lynch, but I won't go into them. That vote above however is just as good.

And you're jumping on it at the first opportunity why exactly?

UNVOTE:
VOTE: RayFrost

Man I love traps.

The fires, they should burn this one.

kdowns remains on mass RB tonight. We see how tomorrow goes.

[GreyICE]

Grey, I remember claiming I have the ability, but why would I use it tonight? I rather use it when it matters the most. I'm sorry my posts haven't been as informational as they could be but I rather just watch the other people build cases against each other and give my feedback when I feel it's necessary.

'cause you mass roleblock tonight, period. You claimed a provable ability, now fucking prove it, or we fucking lynch you, here and now.

[GreyICE]

+Dramonic

The list increases

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Are we talking about currently useless players?

Hey Dramonic, give some commentary on what you think of Meran.

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kdown is giving me newbie vibes now.

Have you ever played off epic mafia and in a real mafia game before? All my favorite wins come with very little power role involvement.

[GreyICE]

Too many of you are scummy for me to be happy.

Scott is town.

Wraith is not.

Meran needs dead. Wraith needs dead. Dramonic needs dead.

[GreyICE]

Oh yeah, speaking of softclaims(thanks Deke), I'm a miller. Or, more specifically, any and all alignment divining results give the opposite result.

Make of that what you will.

I am very comfortable lynching Maruchan today.

Speaking of which I just noticed something in my role PM and hereby declare Sera guaranteed town. Here's why:

I have a condition in my Role that changes me to a miller and the wording was specifically as Sera detailed... the opposite result, which is a pretty non-tradtional way to describe a Miller (Cop Sanity Issues Implied). No scum would be given that information. Sera is Town to the Bone.

-_-

Why aren't we killing you?

[GreyICE]

[quote="In post 395I agree to a degree with most of this except dramonic. Its not 2scum4skum but he's just so earnest with his apathy it feels like baaad town.[/quote]
Bullshit. I've played with Dramonic scum before, and he's never dishonest about how bad he's cruising, scum or town.

His ISO is a wall of fucking horrid garbage.

No.

See, if something triggers it WHEN IT TRIGGERS then he says so.

There'd be no reason whatsoever to want to know a piece of information like that at almost any juncture. Especially not this one.

Besides, 'millers' get a special investigative technique that comes much later.

In secret miller is actually a fucking amazing role that makes scum not shoot you because they go 'loltheyhavetolynchmillereventually' and then you anally rape them while they shoot random townies with actual power roles.

Ohhh man ohh man can't we make ant be dead?

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I have a towntell or two he's dropped that make me suspect he's just being bad town. Like you have on Dramonic only I like mine

Also prodding miller claims is a bit different then prodding other soft power role claims (in that scum have lots of reasons to fake miller, and little reason to shoot millers).

GreyICE: stop ignoring me. I want an answer to my question, thanks.

Which question? I believe I've answered all of them, some more flippantly than others.


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[GreyICE]

AGar. About how much dumber do you think you've gotten from reading that post?

Also: GI / Sera, can you explain why meran is scum and not just mindfuckingly dim?

Quoting just for you, GI(joe).

But I like quoted a bunch of his posts.

I mean yeah I suppose he could be a scum-like object utterly indistinguishable from scum in any way but BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GOD

You want him alive in LyLo?

[GreyICE]

I don't think he should live until lylo, but I doubt he'd live that long and don't see why we are unable to, in the mean time, kill scum. He's vigbait to me more than he is scum.

He's playing

exactly like scum

, Why do you think this behavior is town?

[GreyICE]

Frostie you better work on making yourself dead soon.

'cause I'll help you get there.

[GreyICE]

Frostie you better work on making yourself dead soon.

'cause I'll help you get there.

Except he's town.

You scum, Grey?

Nope.

How about you?

[GreyICE]

Meransial having two counterwagons is making me warm and fuzzy.

[GreyICE]

And before that another.

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Day 1, Vote Count #14

Maruchan (5)

- Dekes, Hiraki,

Maxous, WrathChild

, kdowns

Meransiel (4)

- Ant_to_the_max, SpyreX, Seraphim, GreyICE

Meransiel (6)

- Ant_to_the_max, SpyreX, Seraphim, GreyICE, dramonic, kdowns

Scott Brosius (4)

- AGar, RayFrost,

Maxous, WrathChild

So much warm and fuzzy right now~

[GreyICE]

If Meran is scum? Almost certainly.

Maruchan was more a 'what the fuck is going on in this corner of the universe' read than a scumread. Yeah, playing like that he was going to die so hard that it wasn't even funny to the vig(s) but I'm not wasting the day 1 lynch on someone like that.

LLD is, well, I'll reserve judgment a bit longer.

[GreyICE]

You can learn who town is by how scum interacts with them?

Quel surprise.

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Why is there a Meran wagon? Granted I’ve never played with Scum Meran but this is the sort of stupid shit Town Meran ALWAYS does. And he always catches hell for it. All it took was for me to see jasonT’s Superhero Mafia and Amrum’s Large Normal to see that this is classic Town Meran.

@Grey

– you saw Meran first hand in Superhero Mafia. Sell me on Meran scum here because I’m having flashbacks to why I pushed him like all get out there.

'cause that Meran was having fun, being random, and acting silly.

This Meran is acting passive aggressive, jumping on wagons, and being bitter.

Wraith is an acceptable wagon, I'd enjoy it.

But I really like this one.

[GreyICE]

Are you saying the mod would give scum, rather than town, a total roleblock?

Can you even fucking find a game where scum have that in terms to town? No, please don't check I don't want you to.

I want you to show me the ratio of it.

Why would scum want to block their own kill?

It's like totally detrimental to scum. Like totally.

It hurts my head how you of all people don't get this.

Got it as scum in Snowbunny's game.

That being said that POS game shouldn't be used for anything.

Role never determines alignment nowadays, except mason.

[GreyICE]

Why is meran still alive?

[GreyICE]

No I want to lynch scum today.

[GreyICE]

@MoI: What is your opinion on the Meran-Wagon? When we were scumbuddies in American Gods, you took pride in hammering town 3 days in a row. I noticed you are not hammering Meran.

If I thought he was scum I'd already have voted him or told him I'd hammer.

I don't. My read is based on my direct experience with Meran as Town. This Day 1 play is very similar to multiple games including Superhero Mafia and Death of ReaperCharlie.

Of course I haven't directly seen a Meran scum game so I do have a meta whole I suppose.

That said his posting of late, especially his exchange with LLD, has reinforced my read.

Here's the question

- why shouldn't I be turning my vote right around on you since your question here is framed from the perspective of someone who knows Meran is Town aka scum?

Actually I do believe it's from the perspective of a player who wants to put suspicion on town when his buddy flips.

[GreyICE]

It's great when used correctly.

Obviously lynching you while on VLA is incorrect.

[GreyICE]

It worked out fine for me.

Personally, I dont think its a function of fakeclaim but I HATTEEE the "waiting for someone to SAY they're gonna hammer" business.

(It makes me want to hammer)

Hammer.

[GreyICE]

Vote: WraithChild

I confess. I just wanted Meransial dead. I didn't care about alignment, that was a policy lynch.

Please see attached link for evidence why this is protown:
http://mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p3485513

[GreyICE]

What is this case against me? I'm pretty sure the people voting me are idiots or assholes I just can't tell if its town or scum crap spewing from them.
@gi: I want to here the reason for voting me out of your mouth.

'cause you knew Meran was town, and could also get himself killed without your intervention, so you never posted about the wagon at all.

It was fairly fucking obvious yesterday, but I needed his flip to confirm it.

You carefully set the ground for future days without ever commenting seriously on the main wagon one way or another.

[GreyICE]

Meanwhile, in front of GreyICE's face, Hiraki is scumming it up.

I think he's town, so well

[GreyICE]

I'm at L-2. I claim

confirmable role

, and that's all you need to do in this game to get town pants (sarcasm alert). Just ask K-downs.

@Toasty: I knew exactly what "reason" GI was voting me and I wanted to hear it out of his mout because, as I pointed out in #669 and #670, GI admits to pushing a policy lynch on Meran, "regardless of alignment", which implies he KNEW Meran was town, while I only read Meran as town and wouldn't sign off on GI's BS reason to lynch him. Now you're all following GI on another BS crusade against me. How many mislynches are you gonna let GI have?

I knew Meran was town? Nah. If I know for a fact someone is town, I'm not lynching them.

Policy lynches occur because of the following:

1) Meran is quite unreadable since he trolls games instead of playing them (for instance in the Upick game, he posted on an alt and

pretended to be another person who Meransial had discussed the game with

. Then after his obvious force replacement, he messaged a living player in the game to tell them this.)

2) Even if he was town, he exists to fuck up the town (for instance, in said same game, during a wagon on a player he claimed that he had role information that confirmed the player town. Said role information DID NOT EXIST, and the wagon was in fact on scum).

Due to this, I have no real way of knowing if he's scum or not, and no real desire to see him alive. But, nice misrepresentation.

--
Also he just went 'oh sanity issues' in the face of someone SUGGESTING they might have PR information.

More votes plox.

[GreyICE]

Lets just state the obvious here.

Vote: MagnaofIllusion

Note the following in his ISO:

An early request to vig meran, followed by general opposition to Meran as the wagon grew, without ever really effectively opposing it.
An early vote on Wraith with little reasons, followed by movement to Hiraki.
An attempt to move the wagon off Wraith with no comment as to Wraith's towniness.

Quote walls with no content, random questions with no followup, mean spirited comments with no purpose.

Vote: MagnaofIllusion

You is scum, broski

[GreyICE]

Where are my votes on Magna?

One of you dumb shits not voting is scum.

[GreyICE]

WraithChild, what do you think of MagnaofIllusion?

Agar, what do you think of Magna?

[GreyICE]

Town

Reasons?

[GreyICE]

Magna why are you obvscum?

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Magna

Hiraki why are you obvscum?

FTFY.

Why aren't you voting Hiraki Grey?

'cause I smell scum Magna.

Your questions are pointless and your reasoning is bad and you're not trying to talk to me at all.