Mini 1259: RPG Mafia (GAME OVER)

[kiwieagle]

Soooo

My thoughts on fate vs pinkie pie:
Fate has a tendency to go 1v1 on people.
He wants to lynch katsuki because of meta (which even though is plausible -> I dont think katsuki would repeat the same things if she was scum in this game)
Oversoul reminds me of me-too and fate of bigdog. Idk.


@flinter I have yet to hear of a game where Fate does not caps-rage

also

So early on I'm seeing a Pinkie Pie/Fate scum distancing job going on, but regardless I would like to say that we shouldn't claim roles right now.

On top of that, we should keep drama down to a minimum. As far as I'm concerned, Fate has just as much respect in this game as anyone else.

Hinduragi, explain your town/scum/jester(lol huh?) reads now please, as I seem to have some conflicting reads with you.

Shadow Dancer, how did you know that the day kill was fake?

This was packed with useless questions.

Alright, so your argument is 100% meta, okay, I thought that it was something I would find credible. Good players don't get caught by meta so easily like that. Unless you're saying that those players are bad at mafia, then you should know better.

You seem to find Oversoul town, would you like to explain that? In fact, I'd like you to fully explain your thought process with this post.

You really think if he had the chance to explain them(even though he partially did) and DIDNT, he would explain if he asked?
Think not.

Junpei reeks of scum and he is just asking a crapload of useless crap.

Vote: Junpei

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: if you asked

[kiwieagle]

but regardless I would like to say that we shouldn't claim roles right now.

elaborate on why not

because scum will most probably target the most powerful roles (like templar, or redwizard [that is if they dont already have those classes])
Some classes are just way more powerful than others

[kiwieagle]

Please do not answer questions that are not targeted at you kiwi, I consider that extremely scummy. Dont do it.

Soooo

My thoughts on fate vs pinkie pie:
Fate has a tendency to go 1v1 on people.
He wants to lynch katsuki because of meta (which even though is plausible -> I dont think katsuki would repeat the same things if she was scum in this game)
Oversoul reminds me of me-too and fate of bigdog. Idk.

What exactly is your point here?

Fate's read is null? Fate's read is bad? What does Oversoul have to do with Fate V PP?

Unrelated dont like how Kiwi starts his first post, deep gut read.

what do you mean what does oversoul have to do with PP initial wagon/Fate pushing for PP's lynch?

[kiwieagle]

My point was: the wagon is bad, oversoul is a bit scummy

fate is just null because he always likes to quicklynch/get someone to L-1 pretty quick.

[kiwieagle]

im sorry?

when did I say the wagon is bad because fate's read is null?

also
Im p sure fate is wanting to lynch based on meta, not because of his actual play in this game.

[kiwieagle]

I already answered your first question.


and...
not really.

He votes the mod -> null
he fakes a dayvig -> I have seen this alot. Null.
calls fate derp -> Even though he might of done it before when he was scum (According to fate?), unless katsuki is stupid I dont see why she would call him derp again if shes scum

[kiwieagle]

Actually just so you dont have to go look for it:
The wagon is COMPLETELY based on meta.

[kiwieagle]

I already fucking explained myself.

BOTH people in that hydra are very uncomfortable posting when I am town in a game. Therefore they OVERCOMPENSATE by going DAYKILL FATE HEHAEHAHEAHAE
a
nd shit like that.

And saying OH FATE IS DERPING.

Literally THREE OUT OF THREE Of the last scumgames with Katsuki he has said I am derping to get me off him, and fool me once etc.

He fucking dies.

Then GANDALF comes in, who NEVER can read me and is ALWAYS paranoid about me, and says I'm derping? That assumes I'm town. There is ltierally NO way a town gandalf would have a townread on me this early.

I don't piss you off as scum, you feel uneasy posting and get caught again.

How am I derping?

YOU have admitted you CAN"T read me. Yet you're writing me off as town ALREADY?

Auto-lynch this fuck.

I'm so serious right now

The meta is that Katsuki always thinks he has to fake shit on me in order to fake his town meta.

Gandalf is always uncomfortable as scum against me because I have like an 80% read rate on him

Lynch the fuck out of him.

If I turn up dead, whatever class can vig knows what to do

10. Pinkie Pie (Katsuki/gandalf5166 Hydra)

Oh fuck that

Vote: Pinkie Pie

Scum Katsuki trying to get away with a daykill on fate that he'll just pass off as LOLMETA?

NO

HE FUCKING DIES

NO FUCKING QUESTIONS

Unless im mistaken you have never said "look at his posts this game they are uncomfortable and devoid of all content" and it was a large chunk of meta blaming

but arguing with fate is futile.
(should Kat flip scum, that timeater vote is seriously scummy)

[kiwieagle]

umm yeah I got bard and didnt know what to do with it so I censored the swear words

Sorry fate.

[kiwieagle]

Yeah my list had all 12 classes from greatest to least and I got one my worst choices *shrug*

[kiwieagle]

unvote

Okay, lets keep talking.

In this post you reference fakeclaiming masons with Hindu in the same post that you talk about your silence. Why is this?

pedit: HOLY fuck. Kiwi..

..

..

I hope that this is a gambit.

pedit2: No, kiwi claimed right after you said "conf town to whoever silenced me!!!"... there is a reason. There is some daytalk shenanigans going on here... now how to decipher it...

If I had read the thread sooner, I would of claimed quicker because people were gonna big rbt with no reason (just because she was the bard)

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: just because people thought she was the bard*

[kiwieagle]

Not swearing is a plus, so im doing you a favor.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: vig* (in post #266)

[kiwieagle]

Oh im sorry I dont constantly play mafiascum. And if you actually checked I have been browsing this page the past 50 minutes. Guess why? Dinner! (I left this page open )

Timeater answer me this -> a better way to build bard is? Honestly.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: how would you build bard? Honestly*

[kiwieagle]

YOurs total BS.

I have been on this pagen forever


and you wanna know WHY im not confirming anything?

Lets say your scum.

And I hypothetically put 1 in silence and 2 in discord.
and its lylo
and you are not sure who to kill
and you know I havent use discord and probably will that night.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: thats total BS

I have been on this page the past 50 minutes*

(ugh its 12:00pm and im sleepy give me a break)

[kiwieagle]

Answer me this:

Are you seriously saying that IM LYING when I say that I left this page open (for like 20 minutes = making me browse the forum for quite a while) while I had dinner (your saying that as you "refreshed" I went on and off the forum)?

[kiwieagle]

(last post before I go to sleep)

Why did I fuck up? Just cause you didnt get the info you want?

Fate knows what words I silenced with him, and knows the level of my silence (I just hope hes not scum)

[kiwieagle]

Timeater let me put it this way, scum (if they were smart) got the most TOWNY ROLES (and most probably got priority over us!) which left us with the shittiest roles.
Silver tongue -
why would I need this?

Silence -
put 1 in this (dont care since fate already said it)

Discord -
put 2 in this (I didnt know what else to do/might actually help in lylo cause it redirects the scum kill)

[kiwieagle]

Also I honestly dont know why katsuki would flake unless she knows shes gonna get lynched (as scum?) and doesnt want Fate to laugh at her after getting caught so quickly(?)

vote: PP

PEDIT: Cause it was pretty obvious. Why would I want to have silvertongue?

[kiwieagle]

HMM LETS SEE IF I HAD 1 IN SILENCE AND I WAS TOWN WHY WOULD I WANT TO PUT 2 IN SILVERTONGUE SO I CAN MODCONFIRM A LIE?

[kiwieagle]

and how would you know I put 1 and not 2?

[kiwieagle]

I dont think you can confirm someone else, only yourself.

[kiwieagle]

By discording someones abilities?

But how?

I dont think the mod tells you whether you got discorded or not. (atleast I think so)

[kiwieagle]

I had honestly thought about 1-1-1 but think about it.

1. I dont know what abilties people will choose
2. Not all skills you can confirm that I discorded (except kills)
3. Most spells are passive or 1-shot

[kiwieagle]

^^see?

pedit: above hindu's post

[kiwieagle]

wait wtf Shadow only has 1 post, and its voting fate...

[kiwieagle]

1. Mist Beauty r. Abdiel Mother

2. BabySpice*

3. Fate

4. flinter

5. Hinduragi

6. Junpei

8. Oversoul

9. PeregrineV

10. Pinkie Pie (Katsuki/gandalf5166 Hydra)

11. Riceballtail

12. Shadow Dancer

13. Timeater

(light green a bit town -> dark green conftown) (light red a bit scum -> dark red confscum) (yellow = null (bit scummy) and aqua = null (bittown) )

[kiwieagle]

Every faction benefits once Fate is gone.

This translates to me: "im scum and want Fate policylynched before he can policylynch me first"

[kiwieagle]

soooo

I just read and im sorry fate for what happenend (I was honestly looking for something that could help you censor bad words.... but now that you did it I dont think its helpful >.>)

So im gonna let Fate direct my vote....



alsoooo

thoughts:

>WHY THE FUCK DIDNT RBT DO ANYTHING? RED WIZARD WAS ONE OF MY TOP CHOICES!!! (and your pretty much assured to do something every night)
>I dont see why town would pick priest <.<
> I think flinter is nielwarren.


(oh and fate incase you still want them:
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/sw ... omics.aspx
http://psoug.org/snippet/PHP-Bad-Word-Filter_22.htm (hindu knows how to use php right?)
http://www.bloggingtips.com/2007/04/23/ ... s-comments )

[kiwieagle]

I assume Fate would be voting Junpei by now sooo

vote: junpei

[kiwieagle]

Mist just townslipped.

[kiwieagle]

I LOL'd hard in #271 when kiwi said "not swearing is a plus, I'm doing you a favor." Absolutely hilarious ^^

She was pretty obviously bard, and scum probably lept at this claim or were overtly skeptical. I somewhat wish that she'd taken a point to confirm her alighnment, but I can see why someone might miss this.

reads:

OS I had a pretty strong town read on at first, but it's decreased a bit this day phase. null leaning town

I am down with a Junpei lynch, because he's been defending pinkiepie, and setting something up in #41 putting fate/scumbuddy together. #45 and other posts asking for townreads and why pretty pro-town players are innocent, and for the most part, trying to keep the unbelievably weak fate wagon going. His raging has earned him 0 frustrated town points, but I agree with mastin's end of the day thoughts. He STILL thinks kiwi could be scum after the bard claim. Hmm...

I did not like Riceballtail's posting so far, and his iso is just him bouncing around fate and contributing to little else. He avoided pinkiepie and remained on the fate wagon pretty much the entire game.

ShadowDancer has avoided posting about scum for the most part, and his #509 does not seem genuine in any way. Some distancing from peregrine, and a vote, but meh. Pretty scummy player. First thing he does when coming in a quick vote AGAIN on someone without much reasoning. obvious choice for the lurkerscum slot.

flinter has just about 9 posts. First one is attacking hinduragi for voting PinkyPie. I really liked his #305 where he pointed out many flaws in Junpei's posting, and the scumminess. #448 was good, but given my townreads he gets a little segment on poe.

Fate is a troll, but a helpful poster. I've seen his lolgambits hurt/help the town, but for the most part, not doing too much. hinduragi seems to be buddying him a bit too much for my tastes. I didn't like how hinduragi instantly dismissed ppie's dayvig claim categorically, and had 100% scum/100%town confirmed way early on. Still a strong town read, but something to look out for.

peregrineV is really scummy imo. He attacks hinduragi at that moment where ppie has a few votes, tries to get another wagon going, stays on hinduragi. The way he tried to dismiss the pinkiepie case as completely meta was unsettling, and his aggressiveness in poking holes at hindu/fate's arguments was very scummy. Who does he attack besides people presenting the case against pinkiepie? No one. Very scummy.

timeeater went over the top at the bard specialization questioning, didn't attack junpei half as much as peregrineV. null leaning town.

mastin is pretty obvtown for his scumlist, and his scumpicks.

hes dead

[kiwieagle]

....?????

I swear to god I didn't pos that, I typed this out:
HINDU WHY THE FUCK DIDN'T YOU. WATCH ME LAST NIGHT

THE SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME IN ANOTHER GAME :O

[kiwieagle]

WAit


HOW DID YOU KNOW WHO TARGETED YOU IF YOUR ACTION WAS DELAYED?

WHAAAAATTTT THE FUUUCKKKK

[kiwieagle]

bu how does he know people visited him if you delayed ALL his actions :S?

[kiwieagle]

Your saying I used discord?

....no?

If you want I can use discord tonight just to prove I didnt.

[kiwieagle]

Oversoul pickpocket Timeater, I will discord it to whoever.

[kiwieagle]

(even though I would prefer it to use it on scum on lylo <.<)

[kiwieagle]

RBT YOU BROWSIN TEH FORUM.

JOIN US PLZ.

(even though RBT claims to not have used her ability)

[kiwieagle]

No, shadow.

[kiwieagle]

1. Mist Beauty r. Abdiel Mother

3. Fate

4. flinter

5. Hinduragi

6. Junpei

8. Oversoul

9. PeregrineV

11. Riceballtail

12. Shadow Dancer

13. Timeater

(light green a bit town -> dark green conftown) (light red a bit scum -> dark red confscum) (yellow = null (bit scummy) and aqua = null (bittown) )

[kiwieagle]

junpei is still L-2 wtf

[kiwieagle]

that reaction looked SOOOOOOOOOO fake.

like seriously I bet he knew he was L-2

[kiwieagle]

BECAUSE THIS WAS A SERIOUSLY RETARDED GAMBIT.

[kiwieagle]

^^ @mist

[kiwieagle]

Yeah the point that Mist did the gambit A SECOND TIME (and the point that me and hind both said that Mist was wrong) and junpei STILL believed it is kinda hard to believe.

and what do you mean what do I mean Mist?

[kiwieagle]

^^ @mist

This.

what dont you understand?

[kiwieagle]

^^ @mist

This.

what dont you understand?

What is it? Smileyface of approval, or pointing out something up?

[kiwieagle]

@mist I dont think timeater wants me to discorcd :S

[kiwieagle]

also for future reference ^^@mist means the post above was directed to you

[kiwieagle]

Anyways, I was just reading back (I just noticed we are the longest mini theme game and we are only in day 2 :O!)

and even thought I dont understand what most people are claiming what they did last night I understand that either of these things happened:
FLinter claims to have intimidated timeater (does that stop the factional kill tho?)
and
Hindu claims to have protected fate (even though mist told him to protect shadow dancer.... coincidence?)
and one of those two interrupted the kill (unless theres another explanation?)
I didnt discord
so...

[kiwieagle]

oh wait shadow got an innocent on mist....

when did he claim that o.o?

[kiwieagle]

-.-

I just skipped the whole page 56 (as in I didnt read it when I posted.)

[kiwieagle]

ok so now I think that scum no killed (...or the tim/flinter thing but thats unlikelY)

[kiwieagle]

can you guys calm down with the amount of posting...
(im looking at you mist)




ok soooo
why the fuck did shadowmoon come her, then claim a guilty and suddenly just leave?
can you please tell us something?
(also RBT dont do the fucking same thing. There are enough MYSTERIES already)'


My apologizes to fate (I did provide you some censoring sites, not my fault you didnt heed my advice!)

and can someone help me understand why does mist suddenly loves ice cream. (maybe the sugar rush caused her to post so much *shrug*)

[kiwieagle]

hi tim.

Nice to see you too.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: here*
(in post 1540)

[kiwieagle]

1. Mist Beauty r. Abdiel Mother

3. Fate

4. flinter

5. Hinduragi

8. Oversoul

9. PeregrineV

11. Riceballtail

12. Shadow Dancer

13. Timeater

(btw I added a new color: white = i have no fucking idea what to think of him)

[kiwieagle]

soooo

I just read and im sorry fate for what happenend (I was honestly looking for something that could help you censor bad words.... but now that you did it I dont think its helpful >.>)

So im gonna let Fate direct my vote....


(oh and fate incase you still want them:
http://grammar.quickanddirtytips.com/sw ... omics.aspx
http://psoug.org/snippet/PHP-Bad-Word-Filter_22.htm (hindu knows how to use php right?)
http://www.bloggingtips.com/2007/04/23/ ... s-comments )

[kiwieagle]

Use the plugin
http://www.village-idiot.org/archives/2 ... /wp-noshit

[kiwieagle]

I had a town read on time.
We shouldnt have vigged him :l

( I had thought the vig was fake due to people always saying vig:person, not crusade:person. But from the way everyones behaving makes it seem real :l )

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: makes me think its real*

[kiwieagle]

umm...


fate you cant vote o.o

Vote: PeregrineV

[kiwieagle]

im a he

also

mist fuck you.

Im not posting my reads, timeater has asked like 10 times for them - go read my latest one.

[kiwieagle]

oh and you think shadowdancer is town but fate is scum.


If thats the case, why dont you believe SD innocent on fate?

[kiwieagle]

oh and last thing

Oversoul/Kiwi are the least town on your list, why don't you add them to your scum list,

then decide between pere,OS, kiwi,RBT? I know that I had a townread on kiwi before I isod her, I think I'm missing something because her iso now seems pretty scummy. Why did we decide she was town again?

Force-replace RBT. If I were scum I honestly would type out messages for him to copy/paste into the thread for the sake of not having 11 posts in a 67 page thread.

makes NO sense at all

[kiwieagle]

Funny.


They dayvig timeater and flinter/mist start to push for my mislynch as a counterwagon for RBT.
(remember Scarlet Crusade, Fate?)

[kiwieagle]

Hello everybody. I see you started without me. The daykill on Fate is apparently a joke. I don't think I think it's a particulary nice joke. Fate does overreact though. Also Fate, I know you like it, but could you please cut down on the caps? For me? Thank you in advance.

I don't want to touch the daykill madness yet. It's actually not that interesting. It's more fun to look who's hiding in the shadows, or plain in the open.

Vote: Pinkie Pie

First post of the game and a joke of a vote for the mod? Terrible. Picking a proper target wouldn't have made you this obvious, at least.

^LOL

I'm calling bullshit on that Daykill. One-shot since it's public AND you use it on Fate on DAY ONE? Fuck no. Die.

These are in my opinion the most defining posts of Hinduragi till now. The first might be seen as trying to get discussion going, but what it has in common with the second makes me think it isn't. Hinduragi thinks something odd is going on (I don't buy the dayvig, because you wouldn't use it on Fate: you are going to be lynched). He doesn't consider the fact that this action is just as effective as scum or as town. In both cases, hindu doesn't scumhunt. He votes for suboptimal play.

Now, if you were scum, would you vote for townies making mistakes? I'd think so.

vote hindu

Also Fate, I know you like it, but could you please cut down on the caps? For me? Thank you in advance.

You realize now that he's going to caps MORE just to spite you?

The fact that you challenge him to do so might make it happen. It depends how nice Fate is feeling. It would improve my enjoyment in the game if he could contain himself a bit. The least I can do is ask him nicely if he could do that for me.

I think I'm going to like kiwieagle. His posts might be short, but they show good common sense and decent reads.

The post below I liked less, not because of the person, but because of what he says.

Thoughts on Fate?

Honestly, there is so much rage going on that I'm a little confused, but I won't state confusion as a read, so I will tell you that I find Fate scummy. Fate is doing completely irrational things such as demanding full claims, being very prone to latching onto something and claiming it to be more true than it is. He also likes to hide behind the meta-mask when discussing himself.

In fact, since I haven't voted yet, and on reflection Fate seems deserving:

Vote: Fate

pedit: Hindu, how does you using every HTML code in two dead QTs describe how you know that you don't use bold in Scum QTs? I'm curious now.

In my opinion, this vote makes little sense. I mean, Junpei admits he's confused and somehow from that comes that he thinks Fate is scummy. Sentences like "He also likes to hide behind the meta-mask when discussing himself." are pieces of evidence that can be used against scum or town. In short, this vote is rather uninpressive.

And RBT has been posting the ENTIRE time elsewhere. God, I wish Parama was here.

Why did you think you should notify everybody about this, but do nothing about it yourself?

thats all you have ever posted in day 1.

Which is pretty much:
1. You deny commenting on the daykill
2. Call hindu scum because she voted PP (which at that moment I pretty much considered borderline RVS)
3. Tell Fate to calm down
4. Call me town

thats ALL

(let me remind you that D1 was pretty short)

also

unvote

VOTE: RBT (cause im following fate due to etc. etc.)

[kiwieagle]

oh and dont hammer

[kiwieagle]

He claimed to have done zilch night 1.

Also flinter is a vanquisher right?
...and RBT got confused and thought she was a vanquisher.
RBT then voted flinter
^^ What the fuck?

[kiwieagle]

Flinter....

your case is that MY vote on PP is scummy? (which you don't mention UNTIL NOW. A bit opportunistic don't you think?)

Pinkie just said Tim, Fate and I were the scumteam. Now it's RBT in there too. Smells like fake and forgotten reads.

I agree. And I their response was odd too. I might be wrong, but I thought I made clear that that didn't make sense at all.

Not to mention I don't see the Fate-lynch as a good plan:

vote pinkie pie

. Even if they are town, if that's the kind of reason they want to defend seriously, I don't think they will be much use in finding scum.

What do I have in common with those players?

Your pretty much useless and clueless.

I hope there aren't too many people who think I'm useless I'm trying to play and give my point of view on the game. I assure you I'm not clueless though. I might not be capable to be on as much as some other players apparently can, but I'm trying my best!

Your vote is the L-1 Vote.

Which uses the logic of: I dont think there scum but they are a good lynch anyways. (you GIVE ABSOLOUTELY NO REASONING. All you say is that. 1. PP wagon > Fate wagon and 2. You dont care what alignment they are)

Also remember you claimed that you "intimidated" Tim and thats why there was no kill. HMM WELL GUESS WHAT. HE FLIPPED TOWN.

[kiwieagle]

Funny.


They dayvig timeater and flinter/mist start to push for my mislynch as a counterwagon for RBT.
(remember Scarlet Crusade, Fate?)

I wonder why kiwi is buddying to Fate, and why he still thinks there are three scum. Further, I'm really confused that kiwi feels that threatened after my case that he needs to mention that I don't post that much. He doesn't actually try to defend, or refute the case.

I think kiwi is a much better lynch then RBT. RBT isn't doing a thing (and could be scum), but kiwi is actually scum, and it's there for everybody to see.

When did I mention there are 3 scum? (misrep much?)

and

I feel threatened?
Where did that come from?


(you also mention that I post much so lol)

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: you also mention that I dont post much*

[kiwieagle]

....thats all?


seriously?


(btw I did defend myself, and once again you dont refute because we both know you cant.)

[kiwieagle]

flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

[kiwieagle]

I honestly think flinter-shadow are scum.

[kiwieagle]

He never seems to call flint town, but when people vote her he always comes and defends her.

[kiwieagle]

flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Show me please. It shouldn't be hard to post a link. I can't find it the post where you did.

for reference, my case: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 3#p3535483

Tonight?
Wth?

Why would she die?

Lynch her, if she's town she DOES NOT VIG KIWI UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCE

She viigs Pere. You agree flinter? (Your scum but you shoiuld pretend to go along with this)

Nah, I don't think I will, Fate. I don't think Pere is our best shot at this moment.

http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopi ... 7#p3536387

[kiwieagle]

We lynch flinter -> flips scum, shoots me we are at 1:3
We lynch flinter -> flips town, shoots me, we are 2:2

[kiwieagle]

I dont mind getting vigged if she flips scum. Atleast we got one.

[kiwieagle]

He never seems to call flint town, but when people vote her he always comes and defends her.

Referring to me?! Pretty sure I said I had a town read on Flinter at mutliple occasions. Not that it matters anyways, I don't give a shit about my town reads any more...
And I also don't say that we shouldn't lynch Flinter, I am just saying we shouldn't do it for the wrong reasons.
So now is your chance to bring forth your case again and convince me that she really is scum. After a week of willfully refraining from dealing with this game I hope that I have gained enough of mental distance to be open for almost any point of view again.

Wait ...


In the beginning, of your post you admit calling flinter town...but by the end your telling me you wouldn't mind lynching her.


Opportunistic much...?

[kiwieagle]

So, yes, flinter roleblocked me again.

What I want to know is why? What ability of mine do you want to block? My watching ability so I can't watch anyone? My martyr ability so I dont protect/die instead of someone else? My reflect ability?

I'm trying to block the nightkill. I think it is obvious from my posts that I know kiwi is mafia, and after that it's WIFOM. Would kiwi submit the kill himself, if he was suspected by the roleblocker?

I assure you that I'm not to scare anyone off my bandwagon hindu. I'm just not agreeing with the way this town chooses it's lynches. RBT was the lynch of an antitown player, few actually had seen scumtells in her, if you know her meta. Now the day starts with Fate saying he wants to confirm Shadow or me. Only kiwi is with full believe on that wagon, and we all know why.

Or is he?

I

honestly

think flinter-shadow are scum.

lol

your so funny.

so your thinking me and pere are scum?
your so full of shit its not even funny.

[kiwieagle]

(first time you even mention pere)

[kiwieagle]

So, yes, flinter roleblocked me again.

What I want to know is why? What ability of mine do you want to block? My watching ability so I can't watch anyone? My martyr ability so I dont protect/die instead of someone else? My reflect ability?

I'm trying to block the nightkill. I think it is obvious from my posts that I know kiwi is mafia, and after that it's WIFOM. Would kiwi submit the kill himself, if he was suspected by the roleblocker?

I assure you that I'm not to scare anyone off my bandwagon hindu. I'm just not agreeing with the way this town chooses it's lynches. RBT was the lynch of an antitown player, few actually had seen scumtells in her, if you know her meta. Now the day starts with Fate saying he wants to confirm Shadow or me. Only kiwi is with full believe on that wagon, and we all know why.

Or is he?

I

honestly

think flinter-shadow are scum.

lol

your so funny.

so your thinking me and pere are scum?
your so full of shit its not even funny.

and yes I know I contradicted myself

[kiwieagle]

also weird that flinter started calling me scum for no reason at all

she just starting going batshit on me because...

my vote on D1 "was scumy"

when hers was MUCH WORSE.

and should flinter flip town and then vig me im gonna get so pissed that we lose this game because of an arrogant newbietown

/quadruple post

[kiwieagle]

Flinter.


Can you please tell me WHY im scum?

Seriously.

D1 and D2 you thought I was town.
D3 aswell (atleast most of it)

ANd suddenly you quote my vote D1 and call me confirmed scum. CAN YOU PLEASE GIVE ME A FUCKNG CASE?


I didnt want timeater dead just fyi.

[kiwieagle]

3. Fate - twice confirmed town
4. flinter - blocked scummy people
5. Hinduragi - protected fate
7. kiwieagle - scum
8. Oversoul - 1 in sidestep, 2 in pickpocket
9. PeregrineV - mystic, we don't know the skillbuild
12. Shadow Dancer - investigated fate and mist, and killed someone the town wanted dead.


That leaves for me a group of 3 people. And of those, I'm most confident in kiwi being scum, since the only defense he keeps bringing up is: "flinter is scummier". I know I'm town, I've done everything that a town should try to do, and kiwi simply hasn't. Even today, he's just tunneling on me. Before I made the case on him, he barely noticed me. How clear do you want scum to be before you lynch him?

So please Fate, be sensible, and lynch the person that you know is scum. Because you know I'm not.

Flinter CAN YOU BE SENSIBLE.


Imagine YOUR town and someone says YOUR vote on D1 was SCUMMY (which is a blatant lie) and THERE'S was much worse (I still dont even know why mine is scummy!). And your calling me scummy for reacting? ROFL

Also YOUR A HYPOCRITE

the only defense he keeps bringing up is: "flinter is scummier"

Thats what your doing.

also
You claimed to have intimidated timeater and starting taking all the credit for the nokill. DOESNT THAT TELL US SOMETHING?

[kiwieagle]

^^^

[kiwieagle]

If you flip scum honestly I dont care if I die cause we still would have a small chance of winning.

[kiwieagle]

I recently did my town win-lose and I would rather win one more time so then its 5-5 instead of 4-5.
So yeah dying > losing

[kiwieagle]

I don't think I understand you. Who is the other person who can't die like you?

And you are wrong about me being scum.

And you are wrong about me being scum.

[kiwieagle]

I'm the only person taht can't die, what are you talking about?

If I'm wrong then show me, self-vote and shoot Kiwi. You can brag all you want post game if he flips scum and you flip town. Don't you want that pride?

Hmph.



I dont like the way Fate is baiting flinter to shoot me.
I know IM TOWN.

and if flinter is TOWN then the way fate is telling her to shoot me means that we could end up 2:2

Flinter(town) shoots me(town)
3:2

Then scum NK

2:2

[kiwieagle]

If you flip scum honestly I dont care if I die cause we still would have a small chance of winning.

lolwut

Why do you care who she'll shoot if she;s scum, you can't direct SCUMS SHOTS

GOD

THIS IS WHY

I NEED

TO CURSE

meh

your right..

[kiwieagle]

If you flip scum honestly I dont care if I die cause we still would have a small chance of winning.

lolwut

Why do you care who she'll shoot if she;s scum, you can't direct SCUMS SHOTS

GOD

THIS IS WHY

I NEED

TO CURSE

Because he is scum. Just check his posts on the last page, where he called me "arrogant newby town". He knows he's on the wrong wagon, and in that post he's already threatening me not to shoot him.

And why is 3-1 automatically win for town, fate? Because that's the part I don't get.

And Fate is confirmed town Kiwi. There is no use "not liking" his actions.

I called you arrogant newby towny?
do tell
(IF is a very important word when you read stuff)

[kiwieagle]

I'm the only person taht can't die, what are you talking about?

If I'm wrong then show me, self-vote and shoot Kiwi. You can brag all you want post game if he flips scum and you flip town. Don't you want that pride?

No, I don't think I want that pride. If town loses after that

, I haven't done enough, even if I was right. It's not the point of this game to be right, it's to lynch scum. So please, don't be so stubborn, and actually act according to what you read. You know I'm town. I can read it in the way you voted me, you were trying to confirm something rather then to lynch scum. You don't have to prove anything here. Just lynch correctly and everybody is happy.

did you just contradict yourself

[kiwieagle]

If you flip scum honestly I dont care if I die cause we still would have a small chance of winning.

lolwut

Why do you care who she'll shoot if she;s scum, you can't direct SCUMS SHOTS

GOD

THIS IS WHY

I NEED

TO CURSE

I'm the only person taht can't die, what are you talking about?

If I'm wrong then show me, self-vote and shoot Kiwi. You can brag all you want post game if he flips scum and you flip town. Don't you want that pride?

Hmph.



I dont like the way Fate is baiting flinter to shoot me.
I know IM TOWN.

and if flinter is TOWN then the way fate is telling her to shoot me means that we could end up 2:2

Flinter(town) shoots me(town)
3:2

Then scum NK

2:2

Meh. Your right, fate.

Trying to direct scum shots is hard.

[kiwieagle]

I gave mine already?! Why dont you ask flinter for hers?!

[kiwieagle]

....im sorry?


1. she claimed credit for the no-kill since she said to have intimidated timeater (he flipped town, after YOU vigged him)
2. Look at her vote on pinkie on D1 (she claims mine is scummier)


what is her case? that my vote is scummy?

[kiwieagle]

And I never said "Flinter doesnt want to be lynched today, she must be scum"

Misrep more please.

[kiwieagle]

Oh wait! Lemme add to her case on me... she said that im tunneling her (ROFL) even though shes the one that is going batshit on me.

[kiwieagle]

there was a wagon on timeater?


Didnt notice.

[kiwieagle]

EPWOP: there was no fuckin wagon

[kiwieagle]

also if a roleblocker claims to have roleblocked someone, and hes sure that it was thanks to him that the no-kill happened.

Whos at fault: those who believe him or him?

[kiwieagle]

Gonna go reread a bit.


This whole game is a clusterfuck in my mind right now...

[kiwieagle]

Hmm...


Im moving flinter to null. Did some rereading and some thing of shadow caugh my attention.

unvote

vote Fate

Obvious choice is obvious.

D1- he leaves his vote on Fate the whole day. (note: fate was the counter wagon of PP... Note: he never even mentions PP)

Just forget it... I was assuming that Fate and Kiwi did not both fuck it up... He only wasted

one

skill point which means there are other candidates for my cheap jokes to come... Still kiwi is most likely town.

Speaking of cheap-joke-targets - Gandalf is a set candidate on my list... But besides that... Or rather the very reason for that - is that Gandalf just fails in this game - and he never ever improves. That being said he is so clearly scummy in this game - even more than he normally is - all his latest post read like scum desperately craving for consistency - that I am very tempted to hammer him which I will just do if he doesn't fullclaim within the next 24h or so...

unvote

for now.

D2 - he claims PP was "clearly scum" (even though NOTHING of them is mentioned in D1)

Oh, yeah, it's double lynch day today. So be careful where you put your vote. I suggest you use

vig X

instead of

vote x

for the first one

He decides to use his vig like a double lynch...


BUT...

instead he calls Timeater (for the FIRST TIME) scum and then vigs him 5 minutes later (he also thought of vigging RBT as a policy lynch
He also used his dayvig as a way to get people to post there skillbuilds....

I have heard more than enough reactions from Tim to be convinced that he is scum by now. The very moment I brought up the possibility of a guilty result he overreacted to it. Defnitely scum, affraid to end up on the wrong end of the knife.

And you know what the funny think is: I don't even have a guilty. Had I had one I'd just blew his head off at dawn. I got an innocent on Fate, anticipating scum trying to set him up as a mislynch and considering what a monstrous confirmed townie he makes with his invincibility skillset.

And, yes, I'll basically use my vig like a lynch, but with full veto on my part, i.e. if I am reasonably sure that some one is town (i.e. most people in this game) or a better lynched (i.e. Per a.k.a. "Smoke and Mirrors") I won't shoot.

That being said I fully agree with Rice & Tim vig/lynch in any order... Rice should claim her night result ASAP. No need to hold that info back if there is any.

You're right. No reason to delay this shot.

crusade Tim

One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her... as in attacking the people who attack flinter. Just enough to get noticed BUT he never outright defends her (Opportunistic much? Just because she is a vengeful...?).
He also NEVER mentions her other than in her reads she is "town"

This makes me think that Flinter is town because: Why else would Shadow be doing this? You can only direct town shots....


VOTE: Shadowdancer

[kiwieagle]

Forgot to add this quote:

No, wait. Pere, without reading you claim your role and skills right

now

. DO IT!

[kiwieagle]

I called flinter town?
quote plz

[kiwieagle]

Hmm...


Im moving flinter to null. Did some rereading and some thing of shadow caugh my attention.

unvote

vote Fate

Obvious choice is obvious.

D1- he leaves his vote on Fate the whole day. (note: fate was the counter wagon of PP... Note: he never even mentions PP)

Just forget it... I was assuming that Fate and Kiwi did not both fuck it up... He only wasted

one

skill point which means there are other candidates for my cheap jokes to come... Still kiwi is most likely town.

Speaking of cheap-joke-targets - Gandalf is a set candidate on my list... But besides that... Or rather the very reason for that - is that Gandalf just fails in this game - and he never ever improves. That being said he is so clearly scummy in this game - even more than he normally is - all his latest post read like scum desperately craving for consistency - that I am very tempted to hammer him which I will just do if he doesn't fullclaim within the next 24h or so...

unvote

for now.

1 page before PP gets hammered - he claims PP was "clearly scum" (even though NOTHING of them is mentioned in before that....)

Oh, yeah, it's double lynch day today. So be careful where you put your vote. I suggest you use

vig X

instead of

vote x

for the first one

He decides to use his vig like a double lynch...


BUT...

instead he calls Timeater (for the FIRST TIME) scum and then vigs him 5 minutes later (he also thought of vigging RBT as a policy lynch
He also used his dayvig as a way to get people to post there skillbuilds....

I have heard more than enough reactions from Tim to be convinced that he is scum by now. The very moment I brought up the possibility of a guilty result he overreacted to it. Defnitely scum, affraid to end up on the wrong end of the knife.

And you know what the funny think is: I don't even have a guilty. Had I had one I'd just blew his head off at dawn. I got an innocent on Fate, anticipating scum trying to set him up as a mislynch and considering what a monstrous confirmed townie he makes with his invincibility skillset.

And, yes, I'll basically use my vig like a lynch, but with full veto on my part, i.e. if I am reasonably sure that some one is town (i.e. most people in this game) or a better lynched (i.e. Per a.k.a. "Smoke and Mirrors") I won't shoot.

That being said I fully agree with Rice & Tim vig/lynch in any order... Rice should claim her night result ASAP. No need to hold that info back if there is any.

You're right. No reason to delay this shot.

crusade Tim

One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her... as in attacking the people who attack flinter. Just enough to get noticed BUT he never outright defends her (Opportunistic much? Just because she is a vengeful...?).
He also NEVER mentions her other than in her reads she is "town"

This makes me think that Flinter is town because: Why else would Shadow be doing this? You can only direct town shots....


VOTE: Shadowdancer

[kiwieagle]

You weren't in BttF?! Was Lemming Mafia our only game together? And wtf? Failed buddy attempt? How is it a buddying attempt. Read that game, have a look at antifinities behaviour on the Maru waggon on D1 and tell me what kiwi just did does not remarkably look the same.

But look how kiwi cannot even stay consistent with his "reads"...
Post #1837:

[...]One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her...[...]

Yes he did call flinter town.
Guess where his vote was before? -

flinter your case was a mess, I refuted it.

VOTE: Flinter

Seriously, it's day 4 - and all kiwi has to contribute to the discussion is this kind of stuff?

I was the one who lynched anti. If I recall you didnt do shit during that scenario.
Also your wrong... Anti never attacked me.

Also
Are you saying that if Vi is scummy in game X for A reasons, then Chesskid is scummy in game Y because Vi did the same thing in game X?
Thats bad logic, because everyone has his playstyle.
If Vi hit caps locks when he is about to get lynched... wouldnt that look like flailing on Vi's part?
If Fate hit caps lock when he is about to get lynched.... people would find it normal.. not scummy, unlike ^^


And leaning town =/= town.
its like saying: a bit scummy = confscum


...also isnt Mafia a game of analyzing? What is wrong with changing your reads? Such a shame that im not a cop so I stay with fixed (..or faked) the whole game.


Also what do you mean all im contributing to the discussion is "this kind of stuff"?

[kiwieagle]

what...

how did you come to the conclusion that sd is retarded with my post?

[kiwieagle]

I did not redirect/use my ability.

Just for the record.

[kiwieagle]

Uh... This game...

unvote. vote Per

His latest posts brought him all the way up on my favourite lynch list again...

Actually

unvote. vote kiwi

On looking closer Per rather looks like the next townie losing his nerves Please, Per, get reasonable and stop voting Fate, it's really the most wasteful thing to do right now.

My guess is Kiwi-Over scum team. Let me check their isos again...

also


The fuck is this?
Seriously?

[kiwieagle]

He failhammers Pere.

He then unvtotes, calls Pere obvtown and calls me and Oversoul scum(preparing for the mislynch in lylo...)

[kiwieagle]

Also should we lynch scum today im redirecting everyones ability into fate (so then the factional kill is wasted, due to bulletproof)

[kiwieagle]

Probably SD-Staeg.

And yes, we would be 4 so you can say I have a global redirect.

[kiwieagle]

I really doubt a scumcop would claim a innocent on his scumbuddy..


also:

vote Fate

Obvious choice is obvious.

[kiwieagle]

I really doubt I can modconfirm "I am town and only if this is silvertongue level 1"

Mod: Is the above possible? ^^

[kiwieagle]

Hindu failhammered per, not me. And you cannot redirect every one to fate, Just A->B->C->A if I remember right.

Also kiwi was defending Pinkie pretty for a pretty long time until finally:

Also I honestly dont know why katsuki would flake unless she knows shes gonna get lynched (as scum?) and doesnt want Fate to laugh at her after getting caught so quickly(?)

vote: PP

PEDIT: Cause it was pretty obvious. Why would I want to have silvertongue?

Pinky lynch was already pretty inevitable at that time - and still the only reason for the vote change he could come up with was flaking. Weird justification.
Not taking silvertongue also looks like an obvious scum move, make sure he never ends up in the precarious situation where town wants him to confirm himself with it (and there is actually a way to not only confirm some one's alignment with silvertongue but also his level of silvertongue - just ask him to have "I am town if and only if ths is silvertongue level 1" mod-confirmed).
Giving Fate a PR that is likely to cost Fate his vote, then forfeiting responsibility for his own vote by "lending" it to Fate and his continuous buddying up to Fate are also very convenient things to do for scum.

Nothing in the vote count indicates that Hindu got a double vote. Threshold is also unchanged. Hindu, please confirm your double vote and then unvote to prevent scum from quickhammering. I'll do the same.

unvote

Im pretty sure you failhammered

[kiwieagle]

as in your attempt to hammer failed

[kiwieagle]

Nope. This is my first encounter with a scum-cop so I doubt they would risk claiming a innocent on their buddy when its possible they get lynched -> and then suddenly everyone lynches his buddy because you called him innocent.

[kiwieagle]

I really doubt I can modconfirm "I am town and only if this is silvertongue level 1"

Mod: Is the above possible? ^^

Of yourse you cannot. Because you did not skill silvertongue? Or did you lie to us all the time? In that case I'd advise you to better have that exact statement mod-confirmed immediately.
But theoretically it's but a simple sentence, why should it not be allowed?

...because you can only modconfirm one thing?
and even if that was possible, I could easily put 2 and lie about that.


There was a big discussion back before timeater was dayvigged (forget what day... think D2?).

Im pretty sure getting silvertongue was dumb, because I cant completely confirm I put only 1 skill point into it.

[kiwieagle]

Im pretty sure you failhammered

Then read the vote count.
Why would you lynch innocent results of a scum cop when you cannot even know if they are fake?

Exactly!

How can you know they are fake or not?

[kiwieagle]

I can only confirm things about myself'; I cant confirm your results.


and as I said I can put 2 skillpoints into silvertongue and lie? How am I in any way confirmed?

[kiwieagle]

With that sentence you could confirm exactly that.

Fate, if you don't start realizing soon how badly kiwi has mucked you about all the time we're gonna lose this and it'll be

you

who people will hold it over.

funny that you mention that



I bet timeater is raging in the dead QT, why haven't we lynched you, after you vigged him.
He already knows the alignment and knows your scum.

I see no town motivation in that vig.

[kiwieagle]

Also I just noticed:

Hindu could of easily doublevoted and then her scumbuddy could of hammered.
Which makes her town.

and if there was another pair of scumbuddies they could of easily hammered by now.


Which can only mean Shadow is scum.


PEDIT:
1. you either have no fucking idea what silvertongue
2. or are faking having no fucking idea just so you can have a meager case.

DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND THAT I CAN BYPASS EVERYTHING BY GETTING 2 in SILVETONGUE?

VOTE: vote:SD

[kiwieagle]

You have no fucking clue about logic... OR you are faking to have no fucking clue to construct another fake argument for your bullshit case.
And, you know what, hammering for scum requires them to pile a second vote on me first without any one interacting.
Oh, look who just did that. Another amazing conincidence? Hardly. Or else you would have realized that by the same logic you could be called scum yourself.

Hindu

, if you are online: YOU NEED TO UNVOTE IMMEDIATELY!

Except that I know im town?
And modconfirming a lie does not mean i confirm a lie. I confirm a lie as a truth
-.-
Pedit: holy fuckin shit

[kiwieagle]

Is that serious?

Fuck...

[kiwieagle]

Is it even possible for you to lose your vote on lylo?
Like scum would have to self hammer or his buddy would have to bus...

[kiwieagle]

Is what serious?

QUickhammer?

VOTE: SHADOW DANCER

DID I WRITE THOSE WORDS?
NO.

SO DID IT COUNT YOU COMPLETE IDIOT?
NO.
WHAT THEHELL

KIND OF DUMBASS ARE YOU

I was referring to the fuck

[kiwieagle]

I think discord swaps people abilities
I think we can use it as a redirect?

If not its a b c d

It would be something like
Hindu staeg shadow dancer fate
So then scum either kill themselves or waste their kill on you

[kiwieagle]

Do you realize what can go wrong with discord?
Like scum lies and I end up lynched?

[kiwieagle]

Also theres not much confirmable actions that could confirm my swap ( wtf was i supposed to know who chose what)

[kiwieagle]

Also im pretty sure I censored fuck not fuckin.

[kiwieagle]

BWHAHAAHAH!

I was only voted like 2/3 times the whole game so I cant see how I was obvscum otherwise I would have been lynched, dont you think SD?


Also ->
Discording was not dumb.


Also ->
The setup was a bit townsided

Also ->
Lol at katsuki a calling us shitty when she was lynched D1 in the first few pages (this felt like 2:10)

GG everyone

Nominating Vox for best flavor!

[kiwieagle]

nvm done already.

[kiwieagle]

Well, the way Vox said it, made me think we had an usurper/secret mechanic.
But yeah I wasnt gonna do it anyways.
I didnt even understand wtf swapping did.

[kiwieagle]

Vox, I am all for the troll Fate hard core plan. You keep him alive in thread alone with two scum with his extended life span skill and stuff and we make a party in here where we laugh about that damn failure of a blatherskite.

I blame most of the mislynches on him anyway. All he did in this game was provide the general toxic atmosphere for townies to freak out, counter-derp, derp vote him, be more concerned with his derping than scum... And sucking the nipples of both scum, even when it became blatantly obvious that he was dead wrong. Unfortunately he isn't the kind of person who would ever understand that it's time to reconsider things when he is about to hit the wall, because he'll look so much cooler when he just tears it down and just spills the debris over every one else...

I'll definitely never let him into any of my future modded games, that's for sure.

There was a moment even you thought I was conftown, so don't be a hypocrite.

The only reason you started calling me scum was because I started pushing for your lynch. A bit OMGUS.

[kiwieagle]

where do I /in for kat's game?

[kiwieagle]

Hmm...


Im moving flinter to null. Did some rereading and some thing of shadow caugh my attention.

unvote

vote Fate

Obvious choice is obvious.

D1- he leaves his vote on Fate the whole day. (note: fate was the counter wagon of PP... Note: he never even mentions PP)

Just forget it... I was assuming that Fate and Kiwi did not both fuck it up... He only wasted

one

skill point which means there are other candidates for my cheap jokes to come... Still kiwi is most likely town.

Speaking of cheap-joke-targets - Gandalf is a set candidate on my list... But besides that... Or rather the very reason for that - is that Gandalf just fails in this game - and he never ever improves. That being said he is so clearly scummy in this game - even more than he normally is - all his latest post read like scum desperately craving for consistency - that I am very tempted to hammer him which I will just do if he doesn't fullclaim within the next 24h or so...

unvote

for now.

D2 - he claims PP was "clearly scum" (even though NOTHING of them is mentioned in D1)

Oh, yeah, it's double lynch day today. So be careful where you put your vote. I suggest you use

vig X

instead of

vote x

for the first one

He decides to use his vig like a double lynch...


BUT...

instead he calls Timeater (for the FIRST TIME) scum and then vigs him 5 minutes later (he also thought of vigging RBT as a policy lynch
He also used his dayvig as a way to get people to post there skillbuilds....

I have heard more than enough reactions from Tim to be convinced that he is scum by now. The very moment I brought up the possibility of a guilty result he overreacted to it. Defnitely scum, affraid to end up on the wrong end of the knife.

And you know what the funny think is: I don't even have a guilty. Had I had one I'd just blew his head off at dawn. I got an innocent on Fate, anticipating scum trying to set him up as a mislynch and considering what a monstrous confirmed townie he makes with his invincibility skillset.

And, yes, I'll basically use my vig like a lynch, but with full veto on my part, i.e. if I am reasonably sure that some one is town (i.e. most people in this game) or a better lynched (i.e. Per a.k.a. "Smoke and Mirrors") I won't shoot.

That being said I fully agree with Rice & Tim vig/lynch in any order... Rice should claim her night result ASAP. No need to hold that info back if there is any.

You're right. No reason to delay this shot.

crusade Tim

One of the reasons Flinter is null/leaning town is due to Shadows always seeming to passively defend her... as in attacking the people who attack flinter. Just enough to get noticed BUT he never outright defends her (Opportunistic much? Just because she is a vengeful...?).
He also NEVER mentions her other than in her reads she is "town"

This makes me think that Flinter is town because: Why else would Shadow be doing this? You can only direct town shots....


VOTE: Shadowdancer

And that post is supposed to convince me that you were really just dumb when you gave Fate that poszt restriction?!
Because, you know, that second quote is clearly D1, clearly contradicting your "point" that I never even mentioned PP. That makes your "parks vote on Fate counterwaggon" void because I voted Fate in RVS when he wasn't counterwaggon to any one and wasn't doing anything until my next posts where I clearly called PP scum and unvoted Fate immediatelly.
And I am pretty sure I made clear that I would only vig people that I'd agree on, but wanted some thoughts from others first.

But your last point is defnitely the worst: You say Flinter is town. So you vote for me for not supporting her lynch or seeing the case against her? Sorry, now

you

have to really convince

me

that

you

are not opportunistic scum.

vote kiwi

oh look your 1st vote on me!



and never did anyone mention:
because you weren't obvscum but because you were too scummy to be scum obvscum..

[kiwieagle]

Kiwi, don't take the emotional high-ground. This game, while not being Fate's best, he isn't the whole reason why the town lost. See: loltimevig, most of the lynches (especially the RBT one, that was... worth it.). You thinking about discording is lol. Hinduragi won this game, pretty much single-handedly.

PereV's skill choices are... very questionable. You had to go 3 in watcher-skill; you couldn't redirect the mafia kill, and smoke and mirrors is a practical scum skill. Should you die at night, you would simply make a report with your passive and gz, confirmed scum.

Why do you think im going against fate's play?
Im actually defending him <.<


also hindu want to discord at well in the begining sooo

[kiwieagle]

Vox, I am all for the troll Fate hard core plan. You keep him alive in thread alone with two scum with his extended life span skill and stuff and we make a party in here where we laugh about that damn failure of a blatherskite.

I blame most of the mislynches on him anyway. All he did in this game was provide the general toxic atmosphere for townies to freak out, counter-derp, derp vote him, be more concerned with his derping than scum... And sucking the nipples of both scum, even when it became blatantly obvious that he was dead wrong. Unfortunately he isn't the kind of person who would ever understand that it's time to reconsider things when he is about to hit the wall, because he'll look so much cooler when he just tears it down and just spills the debris over every one else...

I'll definitely never let him into any of my future modded games, that's for sure.

There was a moment even you thought I was conftown, so don't be a hypocrite.

The only reason you started calling me scum was because I started pushing for your lynch. A bit OMGUS.

What was the stuff in italics? It didn't seem like you defending Fate, but I do see how I could've misinterpreted it, in which case I'm sorry for the accusation.

pere's skills are plausible. He reflects scum factional kills.

Meet:

Q: Does the Barbarian Mystic's "Smoke and Mirrors" reflect mafia night kills?
A: No, it only affects individual class skills.

wooooosh

the italics was me quoting SD's comment in the dead quicktopic

[kiwieagle]

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