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What exactly happened?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:41 pm
by Guy_Named_Riggs
I don't know if this has already been discussed elsewhere, but what happened to the site exactly?
Posted: Thu Mar 08, 2012 1:43 pm
by bird1111
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 8:05 am
by PeregrineV
And this has maybe been answered, but is there any we the ordinary folk can do to help so that this doesn't happen again, or barring that, minimize the negative impact?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:27 am
by IceGuy
↑ PeregrineV wrote:And this has maybe been answered, but is there any we the ordinary folk can do to help so that this doesn't happen again, or barring that, minimize the negative impact?
Tell the admins to make off-site backups.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:31 am
by chamber
Donate more money.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:33 am
by IceGuy
If they manage money like they manage data, that's probably not a good idea.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:38 am
by chamber
Current hosting is provided for free.
Current hosting is waaaay better than we could hope to pay for with current income.
This would likely have had a significantly reduced chance of happening had we been using a reputable hosting service that we were paying for.
QED: Donate more.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:43 am
by IceGuy
Or, you could stay with the donated hosting arrangements, and use the donated money for external backups.
Did the donations just cover the cost of the domain name or is there some money left over?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:47 am
by chamber
I'm assuming you are just trolling at this point. It's working too so good job if it was your intent.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 11:50 am
by IceGuy
Well, my first answer was a troll post, in response to you putting the blame on the users for not donating more money.
The part about buying space somewhere else with the donations and setting up a cronjob to copy the database once in a while was a real suggestion, though.
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:00 pm
by Xalxe
Hold up I'm srsly confused.
Our hosting space is free. Other hosting space costs money.
Our hosting space is better than other hosting space.
Soooooo...we should donate money so we get worse hosting?
Posted: Fri Mar 09, 2012 6:06 pm
by bird1111
↑ Xalxe wrote:Hold up I'm srsly confused.
Our hosting space is free. Other hosting space costs money.
Our hosting space is better than other hosting space.
Soooooo...we should donate money so we get worse hosting?
My understanding is that our current, free hosting is better than any options that mith/whoever can afford on his/their own, but worse than some options that are too expensive to afford without help from donations.
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 6:24 pm
by Mr. Flay
Pretty much.
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 9:01 pm
by PeregrineV
If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?
Posted: Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:40 pm
by IceGuy
↑ IceGuy wrote:
The part about buying space somewhere else with the donations and setting up a cronjob to copy the database once in a while was a real suggestion, though.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:07 am
by AGar
↑ PeregrineV wrote:If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?
This.
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:09 am
by CooLDoG
This doesn't warrant a completely new thread, and it is disaster related.
DO you guys remember the little icon that appeared up in the address bar next to the url? Well it appears to be gone now when on the forums. However, on "mafiascum.net" it is still there. Was it like this before the crash?
Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2012 2:18 am
by Xalxe
It's called a favicon, and I assume it just hasn't been uploaded.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 8:02 am
by hohum
↑ AGar wrote: ↑ PeregrineV wrote:If the option of paid hosting that is better than the free hosting has been explored, how much are we talking here?
This.
Hardware failures can and do occur. Even with more professional hosting situations. The data loss really was more of a perfect storm of hosting related issues and lack of a proper disaster recovery plan. The web servers and the SQL servers were actually back online again in less than 24 hours and had proper backups been made the site could have easily been brought online in that time frame. Aside from minor technical issues from time-to-time (resulting in a few minutes of reachability issues each) the site hasn't gone down due to hosting-related issues in a bit over two years. 24 hours of downtime in a two year life span really isn't too much to ask.
So yeah. The hosting provider is partially to blame here, but they have an excellent track record otherwsie.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 9:14 am
by Mr. Flay
Agreed.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 2:55 pm
by theamatuer
Who said we're blaming anybody?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 3:50 pm
by animorpherv1
We're blaming everyone who asks for someone to blame.
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 6:33 pm
by UberNinja
It was/is obviously animorpher's fault.
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 9:27 am
by xRECKONERx
Is there someone who is actually making backups regularly now?
Posted: Wed Mar 14, 2012 10:17 am
by IceGuy
↑ xRECKONERx wrote:Is there someone who is actually making backups regularly now?
I've asked the same question in the site admin/development forum yesterday, and haven't received an answer. So probably not.