Mini 1313: Blood Bowl Mafia (Game over)

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wat does disappear mean???

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bold it bro

also im going to be v/la starting friday 3/16 for about a week

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OH MY FUCKING GOD, YOU PEOPLE NEED TO LEARN HOW TO READ.

Glork explain why Pizza is town

If you look at his interactions with Tierce yesterday, while he got a bit mixed up, his words ring very genuine. He's def a gobbo on our team. :V

I have NO idea why people are making a HUGE FUCKING DEAL about "Glork called Pizza town," when there are players who aren't posting or haven't contriubted (inte, Malee), players who have said/done patently scummy things (Ghostlin), and SEVERAL other things players have said about each other.

Experience tells me that Pizza's posts don't come from a scum mindset. That is ALL that I am going to say on the matter. Now please focus on finding scum and not "why is Glork calling Pizza protown."


GHOSTLIN: What do you think of inte? Why aren't you making more of an effort to discern HIS alignment? What do you think of Malee? Why have you BARELY SAID A WORD about either of these players instead of making false statements about Glork's play because you CAN'T BE FUCKING ARSED TO READ HIS POSTS?

funny how i read this as "oh my god dont scrutinize me im town, lookat people who are obviously more scummy than me!"

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(2) Ghostlin – Tierce, PeregrineV
(2) PeregrineV – Slandaar, StefanB
(1) Malee – Glork

Not voting

: Dazzy, Ghostlin, inte, Malee, pizzadudes7

Deadline

: Saturday 31 March 20:00 CET

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VOTE: glork

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bahaha

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I'm p sure I said that I'm going to be on v/la starting last Friday
I'm in freaken panama city on spring break guys chill out.

I've read up till the last 4 posts and one thing I've noticed is that slandaar is really not playing super pro town idk.
The Only time I've played with him is when he was scum and he did the same thing, short quips that stir the boiling pot.

Dunno

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There you go again slandaar

Who do you think is scum as of now?

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I've read what you have posted, but as I have said you have been making tons of short quips and I would like you to quickly reiterate.
It's not hard if the feelings are genuine broskii

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this is literally the first time since friday i've touched a computer

chillzz

nap time

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completely re-reading and posting my thoughts:

reading up to page 8 (day one):

im for a PV lynch (now), he rubbed me the wrong way
pizzadudes was skimming too hard, saying he is confused is a load of bullshit
kondi should not of been lynched
i still retain what i said a few pages back (that slandaar seems scummy for things hes posted). he has a weird way of posting exactly what people need to hear

more will come later :p

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right now i feel like i have two possible scum partners, but i need someone lynched and/or more information before i can really say for sure
still on page 8 of re-read

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at this point i will neither confirm nor deny those accusations

:p

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Pizzadudes do you have anything to contribute other than "dude what"

I paraphrased

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dunno id rather see pizzadudes dead right now

i have one less post than him (equal to with this post), and from what ive glanced at his iso, 3 of his posts are in total confusion of the game

AAAAND i wasn't even able to touch a computer starting the 15th

pretty sure thats definition coasting

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but yeah im not mad if pizzadudes dies

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grey why are u voting him we have 3 days left

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It honestly looks like grey is trying to derail the wagon.

Does that mean you think PV is town? (at greyice)

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(4) PeregrineV - Tierce, Glork, Ghostlin, Slandaar
(2) Slandaar – PeregrineV, pizzadudes7
(2) Glork – inte, GreyICE

Not voting

: Dazzy, BBmolla,

Deadline

: Saturday 31 March 20:00 CET

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So here you're speculating (or more misrepping), since I didn't push for a "vig on a protown player" and how the hell did I "act as if I KNEW" that Papums would be killed?

Think we should make PapRat vig first so we get to use it.

This quote reads: "Pappums is going to die tonight without using his vig if we don't use it now."

in his defense, i feel like its easy speculation that scum (or whatever "disappeared" means) would kill a power role, especially one that puts a kill into towns hands

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man u guys are so sporadic

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Consistency is a scumtell.

jokes on you you're wrong
but we wont argue semantics

this is probably the worst game ive ever played, i can't get any real solid reads on u ppl, cept maybe tierce

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I'm here, just watchin' TV.

I think we just have to decide which direction we want to go.




BBMolla, what exactly is Slandaar's "town meta"? I've never played with him before.

also, ive seen slandaar's scum meta and he was playing like this before

just a couple of pennies

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BB, please bump your PV and Slandaar ISOs to the top of your priority list.

It seems amost certain that one of {BBMolla, PV, Slan} will wind up being the lynch today, and I'd like to have ample time for claims/counterclaims.

inte: Did you ever answer my questions about why you're still voting me? I don't remember seeing a response. Also, how is that re-read coming along?

I just started a new job :/

Anyways, I'm voting you right now because I had nowhere else to put it.

Literally the biggest thing I don't see is why pizza is considered town in the slightest

That being said VOTE: GreyIce

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pizza why do u even sign up to play games if u don't even say anything
hypocrisy noted

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Pizzadudes

GreyICE
PeregrineV
Slandaar
BBMolla
Dazzy (who?)


in that order

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)
(3) GreyICE – Slandaar, inte, Tierce,
(1) PeregrineV - Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV,
(1) Slandaar –pizzadudes7
(1) BBmolla – GreyICE

Not voting

: BBmolla,Dazzy, Glork,

Deadline

: Saturday 31 March 20:00 CET

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Im lost as fuck but don't like greyice
Hence the vote

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Dunno he could just as easily be lying about who he nominated

I don't trust this town bloc shit either
That being said I didn't nominate anyone because Of the crash. I wasn't sure if the game would continue.

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nice threat but this wagon has been going by too nicely

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wat a waste
ill hammer at 9:00 pm tonight (if i remember)

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would be messsed up if pizza+glork+tierce are scumteam

hilarious too tho

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explicitly saying that you're town yourself pretty much defeats the purpose of acting town-like
like idk how to explain it

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this is how i see it when ppl say that they are playing like a townie:



thanks pizza, for the most useful contribution to this game!

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VOTE: slandaar

smells like vengeful to me but w/e

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he just . . . let himself die without doing much
it just feels too easy . . .

Vote count

(10 players alive = 6 to lynch)

(6) Slandaar – pizzadudes7, Glork, GreyICE, Tierce, BBmolla, inte

(1) GreyICE – Slandaar
(1) PeregrineV – Ghostlin
(1) Glork – PeregrineV

Not voting

: Dazzy

Deadline

: Saturday 7 April 20:00 CET

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swag

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nope

also we should be looking more closely at glork seeing as he was vehemently defending pizzadudes' town alignment

explanation on why you knew he was town GO

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7 alive
2 kills

mislynch brings town to a loss am i correct?

please tell me our PRs haven't afk'd every night

.____.

pedit: ? i switch your guys' roles cause i have no idea what it does

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yea

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i don't like glork's interactions with slandaar

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inte, GreyICE will

NOT

be lynched.

Please move to PV or Slandaar.

Prefer Slandaar for now.

It's YOUR interactions with Slandaar that are alarming, inte. Are you sure you want to get into this right now?

k, hit me with your best shot

try to get me lynched, im daring you

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phew im glad i didn't have to showdown and blow up your story
i'm glad you were turned out to be the invest role
btw i have a near bulletproof defense (at least in my eyes)
it'll come d4 if im still around

unless im being played ._.

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whoops VOTE: BBmolla

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it really doesn't sound construed at all so i guess it will be heart of the cards time

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Yes, but first you answer why did you select BBmolla for your invest?
Pretty crazy you get the SK on your 2nd invest

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I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho

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? So I was looking too far into flavor?

Dang this just got harder

Anyways, a similar situation came up before, in my first game on site

I'll explain how its relevant later when I'm on the computer

Man only if tierce was here she could back me up

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Sigh.

I pretty much figured out slandaar was scum because I had JUST played a game with him before the crash. His playstyle was far too similar to it before for me to ignore.

See page 3 day 1

Since nobody even pair attention to what I said, I planned to keep quiet about my meta reference until further in the game for it to be more useful

Unluckily he slipped or something and u guys caught on

Grey have you ever bussed a teammate page 3 day one? It's highly unlikely seeing as at that time there was no suspicion on him

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w/e
swag you can eliminate me to reduce suspect pool, just make sure you add into your calculations for outcomes that you're hitting a townie

@ bbmolla

... u gotta come up with something better than that

1) Their name - Puke the Perfect
2) Their role - rookie (vanilla)
3) Their race - gobbo
4) Their position - thrower (this is a real funny pun to me)
5) Any actions they have taken day or night - nothing n1, changed positions n2
6) Their MVP votes on both nights - no nominate n1, nominate tierce n2

I changed these players into these positions:

i literally did it because i was bored

Dazzy - catcher
Ghostlin - catcher
Glork - blitzer
GreyICE - blitzer
PeregrineV - catcher
Pizzadudes7 - lineman
BBmolla - lineman
Tierce - blitzer

others i didn't change

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Sigh.

I pretty much figured out slandaar was scum because I had JUST played a game with him before the crash. His playstyle was far too similar to it before for me to ignore.

See page 3 day 1

Since nobody even pair attention to what I said, I planned to keep quiet about my meta reference until further in the game for it to be more useful

Unluckily he slipped or something and u guys caught on

Grey have you ever bussed a teammate page 3 day one? It's highly unlikely seeing as at that time there was no suspicion on him

In answer to the bussing, yes, yes, yes.

However:

Inte Day 1, page 3:
i would not be upset at a kondi lynch

Why do you prefer a Ghostlin lynch over a kondi lynch, inte?

i dont like michigan

that being said, only reason id be ok with a kondi lynch is because (s?)he is purposely being confusing

slandaar's one post is suspect

fair enough.

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he has had one post, and it was a heart striking one at that. he left it up to the rest of the townies to interpret exactly what he means and thats what scum does, incite chaos.

my vote is rvs because i dont have anywhere else significant to put it, so :p

kondi has been too difficult to read at all so far. i am starting to develop reads on people n such and its not like im screaming to lynch him.

confusion leads to the dark side



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Calling your teammates scummy without trying to get them lynched is called "distancing"

And it's fairly typical scumplay.

cept he was trying to cast suspicion on me (and get me lynched)

i play the easy target usually because it leads to scum trying to prey on me

how in sam hell does distancing work like that then

check out this game, the exact same thing happened to me.

READ:

Fathom42/LostGirlChan and Sampson(I think?)/vijay2vasandani

the important part was that fathom was scum, i played same type of gambit, and most of the game was me trying to get him/LostGirlChan lynched because i was fairly certain that the slot was scum

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... &start=200

u can even read the archived version of the game, saved by tierce. its in the last pages.

im not entirely sure, but i think thats what tierce meant in this post (day 1)

Tierce:

Post #???? » Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:50 am

In post 128, Majiffy wrote:

In post 126, inte wrote:?

reason now


Same reason I was voting you. I think you're going to be an annoying troll, and annoying trolls should be disposed of.


Yo inte.

If I die tonight, explain tomorrow what you were doing here, then lynch this guy. He wants to lynch for the sake of lynching, not for figuring out your alignment.

if you still think i'm scum right now, you're not only letting town down, but tierce especially :p

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If you're vanilla, how did you change everyone's position?

cause im ur captain u silly goose. i got the pogo stick when the game began

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now that i realize it, you guys could of asked me hypotheticals and i could of answered them using the position change LOL

oh jeez i think i played this game the wrong way

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UNVOTE:

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I'll put it to you this way; I'm about to call you out on the accuracy of Ghostlin's position.

LMFAO?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

either mod made a mistake or this is a scum claim ahahah

that+amished tell, you've gotta be kidding me

grey i think you found your night-vig target

its

proven

that i have the pogo stick

while you don't know what it does (i just figured out LOL), you know that i do

INDEED

have something that you do not

look at these posts:

inte

User avatar
Joined: November 16, 2011
Location: C-bus
Gender: Male

Post #???? » Sat Feb 18, 2012 12:26 pm
heh im your captain

hi tierce

VOTE: teboow

inte

User avatar
Joined: November 16, 2011
Location: C-bus
Gender: Male

Post #???? » Sat Feb 18, 2012 3:52 pm
yo tebow do u wanna be QB?

if this isn't the darnedest (accidental, by the way) breadcrumb LMAO. i think its more akin to a slip seeing as i didn't know i was doing it LOL

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I'll put it to you this way; I'm about to call you out on the accuracy of Ghostlin's position.

LMFAO?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

either mod made a mistake

or this is a scum claim ahahah

I sent mod a pm to verify. We've got the time.

In the mean time, what position *was* Ghostlin? Humor me.

I imagine if you were wrong on my slot you will be wrong on others. It would be incredibly stupid and ballsy to call you out if I were scum as this is all information that everyone can verify for themselves.

? how am i supposed to know what position he was before i changed

i only have the ability yo change it, hence the pogo stick

i can even hand off the pogo stick, but i didn't deem it necessary

thats information i copy/pasted to the mod in my night action so its literally impossible to get wrong

what is ghostlin's (your) position now then?

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whats the point in a invest role that isn't confirmed

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Dazzy redirect to yates instead

Thanks,

-the management

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You know, I'm actually calling bullshit on grey's vig status

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I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho

You mean.

Slandaar's

Godfather flip

And he claimed RACE COP?

That's why Glork's claim is 98% believable (the 2% is literally from the fact he's good enough to fake this, anyone else in this game would be 100%).

Slaandar flipped

Gobbo GODFATHER

A race cop makes perfect sense if the Godfather is the same race as everyone else.

I, however, want BBMolla's claim.

HOLD THIS SHIT. If you knew that your race was troll, wouldn't this be the bets time to announce it? No where have you even shed doubt on the fact that troll could be pro-town.

Only logical conclusion is that you're making shit up.

You still haven't made a claim either

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You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

So you've moved past trying to defend yourself and now are trying to save your buddy. Point noted.

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You could play the game of mafia!

What in all of creation would make you think I'm scum with BBMolla? ANYTHING?!?

And moreover, why would I defend a serial killer as scum? Yeah, that's smart. Defend the guy whose probably bulletproof and I need lynched AND claim scum so he can know exactly who to shoot if he needs to crosskill.

Why would I claim this as his scumbuddy?

Mainly this Glork. That makes zero sense and you know it.

So you've moved past trying to defend yourself and now are trying to save your buddy. Point noted.

inte why would he claim to defend me if I was his buddy instead of bussing me for town cred.

occam's razor. im not delving into WIFOM

im going to assume our only investigative role is in fact a sane cop

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ok so:

dazzy is confirmed town
glork is confirmed town
(from my POV) i am confirmed town

we're going to have to accept cross vigs from glork and grey if bbmolla flips scum and not sk. its too wifom-y to leave greyice

or i mean glork could flip a coin again, w/e would be cool

still no claim from GreyIce, even after demanding one from others

i can see myself getting killed tonight, meh. PV hasn't been in-game and the fact that Yates is either lying about his position, or the mod made a mistake is still in the air.

that being said, if i die tonight, grey really would need to be re-evaluated

he already made the statement that he is going to use his vig on someone, and if scum don't target him, they are dumb as shit

we're just going to have to see how many deaths are coming tomorrow to really see what will happen

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I am. I just think that Troll is a protown race right now.

so then what was the point at all of your role. THE ONLY INVESTIGATIVE ROLE.

out of at least 8 townies, we have 3 PR's. busdriver, "race" cop, and delayed day vig.

if we assume troll = pro-town, then that puts us to 10 pro-town players, with 3 left to be scum or sk

heres a list view because i suck at explaining with words:

Alive:

Dazzy - town
Yates - plausible scum/sk
Glork - town
inte -town
GreyICE - presumed town
PeregrineV - plausible scum/sk
BBmolla - presumed town

Dead:

kondi2424 - town
Majiffy - town
Pappums rat - town
Slandaar -godfather
Tierce - town
Pizzadudes7 - town

i mean really??? 3 scum with two kills ?? don't even make sense. if this were to be true, what was the point of even having a race cop? we basically had 2 power roles then.

bbmolla is lynched and scum = greyice needs to be killed

its really as simple as that, don't let him try to game you

really. read Post 776 again and tell me what you would of done in that situation, knowing that he is also of troll race.

even if he honestly hadn't read his role PM before this (which is seriously dumbfuckistan territory by now, i mean really how would he even know if hes a power role or whathaveyou)

ANY

logical person would of checked their PM to make sure that your claim lined up.

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what i'm really trying to say is that town would be SEVERELY disadvantaged if your cop status doesn't actually do anything

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Nah man go ahead I believe people were naive enough to vote you for SPP

Still no claim from grey, only half assed omgus

I give no fucks if I die because from there it would be town win

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If you're pro town you have nothing to hide at this point. Why not do it hole you're here

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Like lying about mod info like that is illegal right.

w/e we have a cop

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There is no way for us to verify what their position was before I switched it

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You're overthinking this.

I hate to say this while I just dropped a hate post on meta two minuties ago in a another game, but this is not at ALL how town BBmolla plays. I have played enough games with him to know when he's backed into a corner.

If troll =|= scum you can reserve the right to blame this loss on me. (And in return I'll blame setup :p)

GreyIce has been giving me really bad vibes the entire game. And not just regular I don't like the guy vibes.

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4/10 see me after class for your attempt. It wasn't confirmed that BBmolla isn't town till his reaction to Glorks result.

The circumstances now are far different

Go back and try to try to nitpick more, desperate scum

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4/10 see me after class for your attempt. It wasn't confirmed that BBmolla isn't town till his reaction to Glorks result.

The circumstances now are far different

Go back and try to try to nitpick more, desperate scum

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Whoops lol it was directed towards greyice.

Too much swag going on right now

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4/10 see me after class for your attempt. It wasn't confirmed that BBmolla isn't town till his reaction to Glorks result.

The circumstances now are far different

Go back and try to try to nitpick more, desperate scum

It isn't confirmed that someone isn't town until they flip.

The fact of the matter is yesterday you wanted me lynched for distracting from PV for pushing BB, today BB was reacting "scummily" although his reaction would be pretty much what I expect if I found out I was a secret miller (what the fuck is this shit, basically). And we find out that you have lots of experience with him. Despite this, I can't find an instance of you really mentioning him or anything else.

You know what? I'm shooting Inte tonight if he doesn't get lynched, Glork you play the redirect game with Dazzy (I'd prefer it to be at least a tad random so scum can't backtrack shoot dazzy). I want this mofo dead.

k

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games over
retards gonna retard

lets just finish this so i can rub it in your face that i was right and focus on the other game i signed up for

afk

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We are lynching BB today there is no stopping it at all.

We NEED his flip to at the very least confirm greyice's alignment

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If I have time I'll tell you a couple of reasons why grey has been rubbing me the wrong way.

Also, v/la over the weekend

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Also also,

Lynch bb -> if town we have 3 conf. town, not including

Grey shoots at random {PV, Yates,}

It's for sure that those two would be scum/SK

Lynch bb -> if scum we have two conf. town, not including me

We vote glork for SPP, he protects himself, lynch grey

Then we do more scumhunting from there. It would be literally impossible to lose if we lynch one by one and only nominate glork

Seeing as dazzy can protect himself for sure

? Thoughts glork? Remember scum can't nominate and any sane individual would only nom you

This would only be fucked if glork happens to be scum, but at this stage I really don't give a shit

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An idea:

If BB is lynched and flips scum, can we agree that Trolls are scum?

If we agree that Trolls are scum [due to BB flipping scum-Troll]

, our switcher can switch Glork with [some random person] and Glork can shoot

GreyIce thus catching TWO scum in one day

.

If I'm completely wrong and BB does NOT flip scum, switcher can switch Glork and Glork can SAVE his dodge for in case Dazzy gets NK-ed.

Please do me a favor and check my math on that plan. I want to make sure that the switch would still go through even if Dazzy is NK-ed tonight so we aren't leaving Glork vulnerable.

This so hard. We can win easily if we don't get too daring with PR actions.

We really can't be looking too far into flavor like that, I think logic should ALWAYS come before

Glork you will always have a block or dodge, cause all of town should only be nominating you

Once again, only town can vote for SPP

I think a ratio of 9:3:1 looks most logical, seeing as there would be two NK's per night

10:2:1 (not including probable Yates in town category) seems a lot less likely

But for real Occam's razor

Neither Dazzy nor Glork can be night killed, and the only way for us to lose is if there is two scum at LyLo. Dazzy and Glork can lynch one by one everyone else in the game, and cannot be NK'd

Dazzy it is imperative you only vote Glork (same goes for every townie tonight)

I'm fairly confident we will be lynching scum today anyways

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No idea.

I can give you motivation for "forgetting" that his race was troll.

Anyways were not deciding wether or not he has done something scummy. We're eliminating a scum suspsect and going to associate his race with scum. It's more sure fire than trying to buy into WIFOM.

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Hypothetically, what would be your reaction if I dropped right now that my race is also actually troll?

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In probable MYLO.

cept it wont be a mislynch

zing

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the club can't handle me right now

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Wait. Inte. Please be clear on this - Are you a troll or not?

No i am not a troll in the scope of this game. The point I was going to make is that there would of been an alarming suspicion after how much I am trying to push that troll = scum

I assume molla is the SK cause your invest reveals troll instead of gobbo, which we know for sure is the race of scum because of slandaar's flip

It's only speculation tho

You mean.

Slandaar's

Godfather flip

And he claimed RACE COP?

That's why Glork's claim is 98% believable (the 2% is literally from the fact he's good enough to fake this, anyone else in this game would be 100%).

Slaandar flipped

Gobbo GODFATHER

A race cop makes perfect sense if the Godfather is the same race as everyone else.

I, however, want BBMolla's claim.

Look how he speculates that it makes perfect sense that a role cop would be the investigative role. He doesn't even think about the possibility of a miller, because he already knows that BBmolla is scum. This post came way after his vote btw.

That is where my alarming suspicions come from.

That and somewhere between me setting the rest of my ground for my town position and BBmolla claiming miller, he 180'd his stance on lynching BBmolla.

Even though yesterday he went from trying to lynch glork, to bbmolla, to PV, to slandaar, all the while trying to set me up for a lynch. Idk where he gets that he "pushed" slandaars wagon when he was fucking pushing any wagon that popped up

dunno

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so... you shoot the most pro-town player instead of someone who has a counter claim

right...

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QUESTIONS WHICH REQUIRE ANSWERS:

1) Grey, any word on block flavor from the mod?
2) BB, why did you vote for me instead of Grey last night?
3) inte, why did you vote for Tierce instead of Grey last night?
4) Yates, why did you choose not to vote last night?
5) Dazzy, what is the flavor behind how your Bus Drive ability?
6) PV, why did you target Tierce last night?
7) Dazzy, you say you targeted Glork/Majiffy because you felt I was protown and didn't want me killed. So why did you put your SPP vote on Tierce instead? Or why didn't you Bus-Drive her?


N1 nominations are a mess. I'm about 90% confident that Tierce voted for me N1.
Assuming that PV is scum (becuase honestly, why would there be a 1-shot vig, a mechanic that gives us vig kills, and an odd-night Vig?), Tierce was actually LEADING Glork of the known votes. Even if I assume "Tierce voted for Glork," we'd be even. At least one of {Majiffy, pappums, Pizza} voted Glork N1, unless one of our Tierce-voters (Yates or Dazzy) is lying.
Unfortunately, I don't think we can glean any information from N1 SPP votes. Simply put, there are too many unknowns.

N2 nominations... assuming Tierce followed plan and voted for Grey, there's no obvious "player X lied about their N1 vote." Nothing really to glean about N2 nominations either. Taking PV's "MVP vote" out of the equation makes Grey's win even more likely.

"If I am protown, I agree to follow whatever plan Glork sets for us."

3) I've had terrible vibes coming from GreyIce and the fact of the matter Tierce was EASILY far more pro-town than he was.

What really shook me is when he said consistency = scum tell. That doesn't even make sense

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Um, Glork.

I'm shooting Inte tonight.

So dazzy better not flop Inte with anyone, because he is dying. He is not town, Glork.

Your plan requires us to basically sacrifice two extra lynches for no gain. Fuck this plan.

so you're not trying to get glork killed at all are you

jesus christ you're so transparent

dazzy swap me with {molla, grey, or pv}

or don't

feel free to make a decision

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This plan is adequate

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How much swag do you have?

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We can't un lynch you man

Vote count

(7 players alive = 4 to lynch)

(4) PeregrineV – GreyICE, BBmolla, Glork, Yates

Not voting

: Dazzy, inte, PeregrineV

Deadline

: Tuesday 24 April 16:00 CET

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grey you should've saved the troll information till after it was a perceived mislynch
i prob would of believed it more if bbmolla flipped town cause i wasn't gonna start doubting glork with his cop claim, it was too believable

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also, idk why yall just didnt lynch bbmolla and gamble it the last night with dazzy yaetes and grey
i told you he was obvscum

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shoulda been at least an instant indicator that i knew what i was talking about, and wasn't trying to mislead when i flipped town

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grey you should've saved the troll information till after it was a perceived mislynch
i prob would of believed it more if bbmolla flipped town cause i wasn't gonna start doubting glork with his cop claim, it was too believable

Look at it from my perspective.

You have information that the lynch, IN LYLO that you are about to undertake may be on town.

Do you claim said information, y/n?

Yes, it turned out to be bad to claim, but I still don't fucking understand why any townie in their right mind would do ANYTHING other than claim it right then and there.

i ain't even mad at you for doing it, cause it was reasonable, im just saying its what i would've done, knowing that i was town, and that there is a race cop, you had to of realized you were a secret miller

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well my line of thought was whats the point of a race cop if there wouldn't be any real results

also seeing as there isn't any investigative roles, i wasn't gonna doubt it at that point

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will y'all quit being butthurt, shits a game, and we lost
im gonna assign blame here tho, yates, dazzy, and grey lost us this one :p

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Yes Slandaar, we thought you were town all along.

I've won despite utter nonsense setups, but when the setup defeats the opponent, it needs to be stated.

"we" Lol, i knew he was scum too. I just had no solid evidence besides meta

y'all need to listen to me more

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I WAS A TROLL

This is where the game broke. It looked like we had two killers. We had two trolls. The math was easy. Why in the fuck would there be a

good

troll?

Why would scum claim to save the serial killer?
Why would the serial killer claim to save scum?

I WAS OBVIOUSLY TOWN!

Like... it's insane. You never answered this once during the course of the game.

Not that it makes any difference for the last day, because we had no sane way of knowing there wasn't a fucking SK, but my god Yates.

yea yall messed up, even if you (grey) weren't town, lynching bbmolla was the way to go cause then you could basically 33% gamble the victory instead of 0%

i really dunno why u guys thought no lynch was anywhere near a good idea

from grey's perspective:
he knows hes town
he knows dazzy is town
he knows PV was a troll
he knows all the rest of the townies have been gobbo
he knows that there is a race cop that has a guilty on bbmolla
he knows that i have said that i know that bbmolla was scum, based on his play during the game
he knows i am town

from yates perspective:
he knows the same things, but doesn't know weather the real scum is grey or bbmolla
he also knows grey claimed to be a troll after the fact that bbmolla was outed to be a troll, which doesn't make sense at all from scum perspective

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Y'all missing the point
We had a win but hall dropped the ball horribly and you're blaming it on setup
Pappums didn't get to use the bomb - clear mistake
My choice of moving positions around - it would of been nice to know that the positions were important, but is based mostly on luck
BBmolla was a clear cut choice for a lynch and glork used a vig instead of doc - it was a 50/50 gamble of (at the time we thought) him being a SK vs grey as SK, I agree here that you guys tried to outguess the mod, we had two confirmed players, and grey knew he was town too

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grey could have claimed sooner, instead of confirming the logic in having a gobbo godfather
i mean he did basically just go "AHHAHAHA I KNEW IT" (paraphrase) instead of arguing that he is also of troll race
forgetting what race he was, was a huge error on his part. the timing of it was crucial

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grey you played poorly

deal with it

i think the setup was balanced ENOUGH so that it was fun

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Dude, shooting you was awesome. 10/10, would shoot again.

You were tunneling me like a fucking moron, and 'giving up' and then trying to tie me to BB, you needed to die.

? get some perspective, i play the way i do on purpose

bbmolla was supposed to be a safe lynch, y'all fucked up hard when you tried to game it

I didn't say that shooting me wasn't a good or bad play, its that gathering information from my fucking flip is what you screwed up royally

you knew that i wasn't just scum tunneling bbmolla, yet you ignored my information

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We're going to have to agree to disagree then. I would of pushed a lynch on BBmolla as hard as I could and then leave it to Dazzy.

I see where you're coming from, but I would of played it far differently

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his 2nd post was sarcasm