Open 381 - Day 4

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Hey, sorry for not posting, I didn't realize the game thread was up.
Anyways,

Vote:pizzadudes

I just feel like it

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@mod
What's the deal with rockyhorror? Is he going to be replaced?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@GNR: What were you in that game that I was an Innocent Child in?

This is actually an important question.

Vanilla townie
Why is that important?
@Malee
I was asking in order to ry and get the game to move aong with a replacement if necessary

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

It's far too early for a bus!

How so? Wouldn't scim want to bus early, stay on their partners wagon for the whole time?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Kondi
I read the thread, nothing much has happened so far. I did see that you dindn't answer my question on the importance of knowing my role from the Less Pressure game

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Firstly, sorry for my recent inactivity and that shitty last post, it was my birthday and I also had a massive cold
Scum Reads:
hokorioppi - easily the scummiest so far. Firstly, pointing out the scumwagon on kondi but then not unvoting seems counterintuative, and his explanation was a bit off ('The bandwagon was going at a good speed (for the number of post). I did not unvote because L-3 is still a little off (still over half way to lynch). I just wanted people to slow it down.'). If hoko turns out scum I could easily see kondi as a potential partner. Then there was his defendance of Malee and his pushing of the Elmo case.
Malee - Just general scummy behaviour, adding to the fact that she voted GuyNamedRiggs for a stupid reason, and I'm pretty surein fact that hok and Malee are scum partners - they have both not voted for eachother despite them being the 2 largest bandwagons, and indeed hok tried to sort of defend Malee in these 2 posts: http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3922366, http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 7#p3922477
Elmo doesn't seem so scummy anymore, especially since Hok seems to be tunelling on him.
Conclusion: Malee and hok are scumbuddies.
@GuynamedRiggs: please could you offer some kind of opinion on the game, at the moment you haven't done anything and it's getting slightly irritating yet, and the same goes for mcqueen

I've been seeing conversation, but some of it just seems a little pointless. Why does it matter if elmo didn't know there was a vig in the game. All that shows that he isn't the vig. I know I have other things to say but I need to organize them first, and that could take a while.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

hok is pretty clear scum atm, IMO he would be the best option for a lynch

Is it becauase he wants to lynch a lurker? or is it something else?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I'll post later tonight before I go to sleep.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I don't see how its town driven, or scum driven for that matter, but the post just strikes me as odd

Vote:mcqueen

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

GuyNamedRiggs feels INSTANTLY different to all his other games. I don't like it. Especially considering i['ve only played him as town.

That's not true
I was scum in New Age when I was a hydra. I was the one who was mainly running that hydra.

Also, my comment on my vote on mcqueen
I've played with mcqueen before and he's always hard to read. I didn't see his post as town, but not completly as scum, just something about it struck me as odd, so I voted him. I honestly don't know why I think it's bad, I just do.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Besides, there are a lot of better lynches for today, than me.

Like who for example?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Sadly, I'm going to have to say it - hokorippoi I want a claim (now), before I hammer you, as you seem like the destined lynchee today.

So you want to end the day earlier and end discussion rather than wait?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

And if hoko is scum, Riggs is almost certainly one of his partners - he seems to be soft defending him.

Because I noticed that he was the back-up a while ago and was trying to keep him alive?

why?

Don't want to talk about it, but I'm fine now.

Ok. I am the Backup Rolecop. That is why I said I wanted the Mafia Rolecop dead.

This is extremely stupid, and I have a feeling it's real. It wouldn't fit hokorippoi's personality to lie about this.

VOTE: hokorippoi

WTF???? It seems like you don't find hok scummy in the post, then you vote him? Why the vote?

VOTE:McQueen

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 9#p3925669
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 8#p3934408
http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 6#p3935476
Throughout the last day, Riggs was defending hok, and jumping eagerly on alternate bandwagons e.g. mcqueen

VOTE: Guy_Named_Riggs

And judging from their reactions, kondi and Elmo are probably town

I defended him because I thought he was town. My gut was wrong. I voted mcqueen because I found it odd that he switched opinions like that. i had no idea that he had cast the hammer vote

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

10 people left. 2 mafia. 2 PR. 6 Town left.
I do suggest the Riggs lynch 2day for wat he did yesterday

Which was what? Defending what I believed to be a townie (and more accuratly, the back-up cop) and finding mcqueen suspicious?

A Riggs lynch makes sense, with the hammer and all, but anybody got anything else?

What do you mean by this? I didn't hammer

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Duzn I wasn't making it look like there was something missing there. It was just to show now we have all the information. And what I was mostly getting at is the 2nd line of that quote. But Unless Kondi was the vig (I don't believe this) I think mafia would have killed mcqueen just because.
Either way thinking about it.
VOTE: Kondi He did seem to not like Mcqueen if I remember.

What would not liking mcqueen have to do with your vote? If anything, it makes it seem like you are trying to get rid of the suppossed vig, which makes you scum

VOTE:Elmo

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@elmo
explain why you voted kondi

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Riggs

Who do you feel is scum/scummy?

Sorry, missed this
I find both Elmo and Pizza scummy, with elmo seeming more scummy than pizza
I modded a game that was lost in the crash where elmo was scum and his playstyle resembles his playstyle here. That's part of it. Also, his posts have the air of someone trying to look town by doing some work around the thread

Pizza is more of a gut read because I find it very hard to read him

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

That's a hammer vote I believe.

It was. I just got online to see this. Wonderful.

@briz
Why would scum not make a post like this?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I think this is just a bunch of WIFOM
I could say that it is very possible that he could say that so that you wouldn't think that.
This would lead to a pointless discussion based on whether or not it is possible, so what's the point?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

@Riggs

Who do you feel is scum/scummy?

Sorry, missed this
I find both Elmo and Pizza scummy, with elmo seeming more scummy than pizza
I modded a game that was lost in the crash where elmo was scum and his playstyle resembles his playstyle here. That's part of it. Also, his posts have the air of someone trying to look town by doing some work around the thread

Pizza is more of a gut read because I find it very hard to read him

Again with the gut reads, first Mcqueen's gut saying Hoko wasn't scum and now your gut saying Pizza is scummy. And has anyone played games with Elmo where he was town?

Do you have anything else to add?
Elmo, what games ahve we played together, because I am pretty sure that I have played with him when we were town.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

you're right
It's just me who has gone quite
Not Pizza, antihero, kondi, or kami
just me
@briz, could you explain your case on m again?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I just read the past 2 pages. This is who I feel should die today
VOTE: GNR

Sheeping? Or do you have your own reasons?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Fine. I'll claim
I am the Town Vig
I shot Mcqueen last night

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

your reaction to pressure isn't golden, ponyboy.

but you act as if there is DEFINITELY a vig, only way you could know this is if 1. You're the vig, 2. You're scum. #2 is actually quite likely, this is a scumslip.

lynch it with fire.

Your post is irrelevant and dumb, why would I waste my time responding to it?

I soft claimed cop and you vote me for being inactive instead of addressing the soft claim?

WHY WOULD YOU CLAIM THIS!!!
I think antihero was saying that you had soft claimed scum. I knew that you were the cop and investigated me (why you were so agaisnt it, especially your first post of Day 2). But no one knew for sure until you posted this. Now you just made yourself a target for the mafia night kill

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

So, why are you voting Kass?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

My face -_____- can we lynch him

Lynch who? Last I checked, you're not voting anyone

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

How was that hammer fake? You cast the final on him. That's a hammer no matter how you look at it. What is all of this fake hammer stuff?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I thought I was caught scum
How has hiplop been caught as scum? What am I missing?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

I thought I was caught scum
How has hiplop been caught as scum? What am I missing?

DId u just admit your scum?

I meant caught up
Thought ahead and wrote scum. This is why I shouldn't post late at night

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

If hips town
GNR is town
Kami is town
Im town
Kass is town.

Anti/Kondi
Kondi/Pizza
Anti/Pizza
Pizza/Kondi

Are the only teams?
VOTE: Anti I like this.

No it isn't. You're missing 2 people. Funduz and Brz.
Why did you not include them in this?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

It looks like that puts anti at L-2 by my count

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

YAY PRODS!

So...you picked up your prod...is that all you did?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

VOTE:Pizzadudes7

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Vote:Pizzadude

Only logical vote for me right now. I submitted a kill on Pizza since it was suggested I do so and I didn't have a strong enough read on anyone else so I went with him. Since it was suggested in game, I assume that scum wouldn't want to die, and since they have the back-up jailkeeper (my bad) they jailed me saving themselves.

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Also a thought: It was already obvious that Pizza was going to be the Vig target, so why would the scum jail GNR if he was just going to be shooting town?

My thoughts exactly, maybe I just didn't put them in the post

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Elmo is late on all three wagons (one of them you all know to be town,

two of them I know to be town

). ...and he's early on the scum one...

...and now he's late on another one (pizza's)... And kassadin is now a miraculous town read after he was just voting him.

Can you explain the bolded?

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

We don't have a vig ability anymore, people. Making vig suggestions is useless.

How so? Last I checked, I'm still here

[Guy_Named_Riggs]

Prod recieved

MOD I WILL BE V/LA UNTIL SUNDAY

Sorry, but I have a busy weekend