Open 399: Faith Plus 1 (Day Seven)

[kondi2424]

/confirm

You didn't give shotgun and I a third partner, by the way.

[kondi2424]

*insert "They said I could be anything" meme here*

[kondi2424]

Oh yeah, this is the game Psyche is in. He's cool.

[kondi2424]

Fine, I'll stop.

[kondi2424]

Alright, here's how this shit will go down.

I haven't tried this yet, but we're gonna go voting block style. Members will be added by selection and taken away if suspected by anyone else in the voting block.

ORIGINAL MEMBERS

kondi2424
drmyshotgun
OmNom
vijay
Psyche

Sound good?

[kondi2424]

No, but we're going to collaborate together and vote the same people.

And yeah basically a trust circle where we get to kick people out if they're scummy and add in the townies

PEdit: Yeah, but I'm starting it like this.

by the way Matt is probably scum

[kondi2424]

Cool. VOTE: Chrimi

I think he would understand that I'm not retarded. Not sure about Matt, don't remember his play.

Or maybe I didn't make the

jail

bait obvious enough?

[kondi2424]

Yuh. I wanted to see who would just think I'm retarded and who would go for it.

[kondi2424]

So reaction tests are called backtracking now?

Yeah fuck you

PEdit: You guys seriously haven't seen a reaction test?

[kondi2424]

I think you guys need to understand that

I'm not fucking retarded.

Why would I expect to get away with shit like that?

I'm actually pretty good at being scum, as shown by my signature.

[kondi2424]

I think you guys need to understand that

I'm not fucking retarded.

Why would I expect to get away with shit like that?

I'm actually pretty good at being scum, as shown by my signature.

[kondi2424]

It was a bait, Trollie. You act scummy during RVS and wait for people to pile on you.

[kondi2424]

Because anyone who thinks about the situation will realize that I'm not retarded.

Shotgun, I want your opinion of what just happened.

[kondi2424]

I figure that Chrimi knows that I don't do that shit. But he still tried to push.

[kondi2424]

Thanks :3

[kondi2424]

I just skimmed through the posts made since last night. Kass is 99% town. As scum, he would not have admitted to skimming the thread.

I'll make a good post later.

[kondi2424]

Shotgun, if he were actually trying hard, it would be a scumtell.

[kondi2424]

I'll call that bluff.

VOTE: BK

[kondi2424]

Why would you even vote me? I said I will REPLACE OUT if he isn't PL'd.

Because you did it in a scummy manner. Plus, if he's doing alright as you said he was, what need is there for a PL?

Kassadin is town. We're not lynching him. I guarantee one scum in my crowd who keeps pushing it.

[kondi2424]

The thing is, Kassadin is (usually) the easiest person to read, ever. In the games I'm with him in when he's town, I can tell within posts. If he's scum, I usually get null vibes from him.

OmNom is town.

[kondi2424]

Vijay pushed for it when EVERYONE disagreed with it. Dont think he'd touch that area as scum. He's probably town.

BK, I don't appreciate your insulting my town play when you have never seen it. So basically, my reads are all going to be shit and I shouldn't be listened to just because I haven't won too many town games?

[kondi2424]

Matt, do you agree that BK is scummy for continuing the argument, or are you coaching him?

I can't read you, and that's a problem.

PEdit: Yeah Venmar is scum. I'll end up voting him sometime.

Double-PEdit: Will you just shut the fuck up already? You don't know shit about reads. I could say you're new so you can't have good reads, and disregard yours like that. I have good reads, and my record means jack shit in that.

[kondi2424]

Oh okay

[kondi2424]

So you're saying you think this voting bloc thing was an elaborate plot that shotgun and I came up with?

First of all, if this was true, why wouldn't shotgun suggest Chrimi as a person to be in the bloc in the QT? Second, how the hell would planning this be beneficial to us at all?

[kondi2424]

UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

Also note the fact that shotgun asked a ton of questions about my bloc at the beginning.

And it's not a scumslip from my POV because it involves me being scum as well.

Your push on this is making you really null, though.

Why is no one commenting on BK? He thinks he's found something.

[kondi2424]

/confirm

You didn't give shotgun and I a third partner, by the way.

Wow, this game is some piece of shit luck, isn't it?

All I know so far is that Kass and OmNom are town.

[kondi2424]

Now that a certain game just finished, I can change my statement that Kassadin is USUALLY readable to Kassadin is ALWAYS readable.

[kondi2424]

Hey shotgun, I have some fresh, new scum meta for you! This time I faked townslips on my partner and myself and got someone who I called clear mislynched.

[kondi2424]

Sorry, my fault.

[kondi2424]

Keep going...

[kondi2424]

Fuck I'm playing my PS3 which I haven't done for like half a year and I have to get this gay update thing

Keep me occupied. Give me a person to get a read on.

PEdit: Yes, I love gambits as scum. Like, I faked a townslip on FuDuzn in a game we won about half an hour ago.

But the voting bloc? How the hell would that benefit me as scum at all?

[kondi2424]

Sure, just a sec. Playing MW3

[kondi2424]

But when you look at reactions between shotgun and I, do you think it's a setup or genuine?

Deep question there. You should look into your heart and decide.

Reading Dark now.

[kondi2424]

Come on, Psyche.

[kondi2424]

@OmNom: I get a town read from his intentions.

PEdit: thefuck switch was that

I'd be okay if you were responding to anything I said.

Double-PEdit: It gave me a scumread on shotgun, Chrimi, and Trollie, and a townread on Matt. There's probably more I could get out of it, and I will later. It also managed to shoot this game out of RVS.

[kondi2424]

I'd be okay if you were responding to anything I said.

VOTE: BK

[kondi2424]

Join me,

Link

OmNom.

[kondi2424]

Lovers was a shitty example.

[kondi2424]

BK, you're trying too hard. I was talking about the Lovers OmNom linked to, in which his gut reads killed us in LyLo.

How come you can take the time to read meta that incriminates me, but not time to read OmNom's meta which supports him?

[kondi2424]

Oh Well I was right, that's what matters.

See, EVEN WITH MY SHITTY RECORD, I KNOW MY SHIT. YOU HEAR THAT BK?

[kondi2424]

LOL

Shotgun has been supporting the Kass PL for forever.

Guys, BK has still refused to respond to why his case is irrational and the posts in which those points are in. Lynch it with fire.

Updated reads:

TOWN

Kassadin
OmNom
Vijay
Dark
MattP
(probably some others when I'm motivated)

SCUM

BK
The guy with the Vader avatar
Trollie
Chrimi
maaaaaybe shotgun

Oh, and BK, I'll go dig up where I've said Kass is easy to read before, since you can't trust that as a fact.

[kondi2424]

DAMNIT THE GAME I WANT TO REFERENCE FOR KASS BEING READABLE IS ONGOING

[kondi2424]

These posts are multiplying like rabbits

You have the most posts in this game

[kondi2424]

Guys, BK has still refused to respond to why his case is irrational and the posts in which those points are in. Lynch it with fire.

PEdit: By, like, two.

PEdit2: Now one.

PEdit3: Now you're tied!

PEdit4: WTF

[kondi2424]

Psyche, you know they show gender under a person's avatar, right?

Also, how the hell would I expect to get towncred from this? I think I've said this multiple times now.

[kondi2424]

It's pointless in the long run. I'd be more successful leaving the game in RVS.

I'mma read Morton.

[kondi2424]

Morton is boring and null.

Who next?

[kondi2424]

I've gotten good reads on almost everyone.

I'd be fine with a Venmar compromise lynch.

[kondi2424]

Also, @Matt: First of all, it's not BS at all. Read all of the times I've asked him to respond to my counter of his "scumslip" case. Second, I already said Venmar was scum.

[kondi2424]

So you're saying you think this voting bloc thing was an elaborate plot that shotgun and I came up with?

First of all, if this was true, why wouldn't shotgun suggest Chrimi as a person to be in the bloc in the QT? Second, how the hell would planning this be beneficial to us at all?

Never saw a response to this.

[kondi2424]

Actually fuck that. Venmar reads town to me.

[kondi2424]

Note that all the reads I'm giving without reason are based on looking at intention in ISO's. That is a very efficient way of scumhunting for me that I think is underused.

PEdit: @BK: If the bloc was really a ploy as you said it was, it would have been carefully planned. Shotgun wouldn't HAVE stupid questions about blocs because we would have discussed them. He also wouldn't be suggesting other people (like he did with Chrimi) because we would have discussed who to add to make it believable in the QT.

It falls apart.

[kondi2424]

So Matt is town now.

I'm almost done with my reads, then you guys can lynch me or shotgun and I won't die in vain. I am VERY confident in these reads, btw.

[kondi2424]

Because their whole reasoning on me is based on your "slip."

Btw, http://www.quicktopic.com/47/H/Si2tkBZ5F4w. Scum QT from my recently finished game. I like it

PEdit: @Matt: Already explained all of my reads with no reasoning were intentions in posts.

[kondi2424]

Om is town. He is annoying as fuck but he is town. He reminds me of a yappy boy scout that knows every rule in some sacred super "Boy Scout Manual" and he is more than ready to spout them out. Nonetheless, I think he needs to be neutered / have his hands chopped off.

p-edit: Ok kondi

I said this forever ago

[kondi2424]

No, Matt, your reasoning for OmNom town. Sorry for confusion.

[kondi2424]

Only have four people I haven't solidified a read on.

[kondi2424]

MattP, can you explain Trollie?

[kondi2424]

Trollie, you can fuck off. OmNom was answering your question.

Now actually comment on more besides your little boner for shotgun and get into the game.

[kondi2424]

Hmm... That's actually pretty good. I had him as second scumread, but I'll give him another look.

PEdit: You asked him why they were discussing Fate, he answered, and you basically flipped him off.

[kondi2424]

I'm starting to think shotgun and BK are a team.

[kondi2424]

Ladies and gentlemen, a trial run of reads by intentions

TOWN

Kass
OmNom
MattP
vijay
Venmar
Darkling
Trollie

SCUM

BK
shotgun

NULL

Psyche
Chrimi
morton

Very confident in my reads, besides the nulls.

[kondi2424]

Starting right after my last post:

@Matt: Both shotgun and BK have their own scumminess via intention, and I could definitely see them bussing here. Also, BK switched to me when there was about equal support for both of us. If I flip town (and I will), his whole shotgun argument goes down the drain and he has no reasoning. Which would be awesome, were they buddies.

@vijay: You should vote BK because he is most definitely scum. I've already explained.

@Chrimi: The first reads list was incomplete and was based on minor scumreads as well. The second list was complete.

...and shotgun claims Cop.

I have mixed emotions on this. I want it to be true so that BK can either fuck off or find some other reason to push me, but shotgun is scummy. Plus, the claim w
Had bad timing and was uncalled for. He

did

mention that he didn't want to be lynched anytime soon, though, so I'll go for it. Faith Healer would also be a much more believable claim.

@Chrimi & shotgun: NONONONONONO. A Faith Healer claim is the WORST possible way to handle this. Chrimi gets scumpoints for suggesting it after that was pointed out.

Guys, we need to stay the course and vote BK. I'll vote Chrimi if I have to, but BK is a LOT more likely to flip scum.

Om, Chrimi is right. Darkling is town.

@Venmar: I already answered you, but I'll answer again: It gave me a town read on MattP and scum reads on Trollie, shotgun, and BK. Also, seeing as some people's scumhunting originated from the bloc idea, I'd say it wasn't a bad thing.

[kondi2424]

No sir, Dark is town. His most recent post only makes that better.

What's your read on Chrimi?

[kondi2424]

Actually, Chrimi can be town for now.

Does BK, morton, and Psyche make much sense as a team?

[kondi2424]

Just to be clear - I feel almost positive that Kassadin, OmNom, vijay, Venmar, and Darkling are all town. Those five are just town. MattP, shotgun, and Trollie are lesser town reads, but I still feel good about them. BK is scum, and Chrimi, morton, and Psyche are null reads.

[kondi2424]

It was a Marathon game, Lucid Dreamers. If you don't know, Lucid Dreamers is mafia where you can choose any night action you want. Well, anyway, I chose to turn myself into a Jester on N1, and got myself lynched on D2.

[kondi2424]

Yeah

So anyway, with your reads on Psyche and morton, are you giving them town status because they are contributing well?

[kondi2424]

Oh god I'm stupid.

@vijay, Venmar, OmNom, & Darkling: Do you all feel good enough about each other to form an actual voting bloc?

[kondi2424]

Take the fact that I'm sure all of you are town into consideration when answering that.

Just make a list of all of the people I listed above you are okay with bloc-ing with.

[kondi2424]

Psyche and morton aren't necessarily

scum

reads, but they are two of the four people I don't have any kind of

town

read on, which is bad.

I know Psyche is a good player, and scumhunting for him is null. I don't know about morton.

@Psyche & morton: Can I have a link to a scumgame of yours, particularly a "normal" one?

And I don't think OmNom will go for Darkling in the bloc either.

Does me-you-OmNom-vijay sound good?

[kondi2424]

Trollie, your scumreads are almost identical to mine.

[kondi2424]

By the way, MattP townslipped.

[kondi2424]

@Psyche: Could you see scumteams consisting of three of BK, Chrimi, morton, and Trollie?

PEdit: wut

We already discussed why this idea sucks. If the claimed Faith Healer is scum (and you have a 3/5 chance of being so FMPOV), the Cop dies.

Anyway, seeing as you went ahead and claimed anyway, I suggest a massclaim. If there's one out, all of the claims should be.

[kondi2424]

In fact, since you did this before waiting to see if anyone CCed shotgun, I'm going to call BS.

[kondi2424]

But what you're not seeing is that the plan goes to shit if you're scum, and I don't trust those odds at all.

[kondi2424]

How about the other Faith Healer heals the Cop and you don't?

[kondi2424]

It works perfectly. If Psyche is town, shotgun gets protected. If Psyche is scum, he has to take the fact that shotgun should be 50% protected into consideration with his nightkill.

[kondi2424]

At the cost of Psyche dying D2.

I personally think we should massclaim, but I'm compromising.

[kondi2424]

The point of massclaim is to ensure that shotgun gets to live as long as possible. Right now, I suspect Psyche, which would mean that shotgun is getting NO protection. If we massclaim, we either have two FHs and get guaranteed protection or we have three FHs and get a) a lynch pool and b) guaranteed protection. Massclaim = guaranteed protection.

Matt, your townslip is that you asked if we could vote yet on Page 2. If you were scum, you most likely would have been informed by the mod saying something about stopping talking because the day started. However, you didn't know, so you have to be town.

PEdit: You're not even close to being hammered scum

[kondi2424]

You wouldn't make this dumb gambit? But I would make a dumb gambit as scum involving a voting bloc that doesn't help me at all? And you're still calling me a girl?

I've already explained that you have a 3/5 chance of being scum FMPOV. I'm not trusting you.

Having the other FH protect shotgun works BECAUSE you get killed if town. Then, the other FH can stay quiet and keep protecting shotgun.

Massclaim works like your plan if we don't trust you. It doesn't matter if one FH is unprotected as long as shotgun stays alive.

[kondi2424]

I've already dropped it.

We need a Kassadin in here.

@Kassadin: Do you counterclaim Cop?

PEdit: What the hell are you talking about? I've got six VERY strong townreads, shotgun, and myself. That leaves you, BK, Chrimi, morton, and Trollie. Three scum, so 3/5 chance of you being scum.

Can you explain what I've done that's scummy?

[kondi2424]

So, who is your strongest scumread, and why aren't you voting them?

Also, what's your personal read of BK?

[kondi2424]

Fair enough. Interested in your morton case, because I don't have a town read on him.

[kondi2424]

Fine, I'll try to find examples. Most people never listen to those, though, because they think they're easily faked when they're not.

[kondi2424]

REASONS MY INTENTION READS ARE TOWN

OmNom:

Why would you even vote me? I said I will REPLACE OUT if he isn't PL'd.

Because you did it in a scummy manner. Plus, if he's doing alright as you said he was, what need is there for a PL?

Kassadin is town. We're not lynching him. I guarantee one scum in my crowd who keeps pushing it.

Why would you even vote me? I said I will REPLACE OUT if he isn't PL'd.

Because you did it in a scummy manner. Plus, if he's doing alright as you said he was, what need is there for a PL?

Kassadin is town. We're not lynching him. I guarantee one scum in my crowd who keeps pushing it.

I still want him PL'ed.
I did blacklist him for a reason you know.

OmNom WOULD NOT continue pushing the Kassadin PL after I called him definite town if he were scum.

vijay:

Vijay pushed for [the voting bloc] when EVERYONE disagreed with it. Dont think he'd touch that area as scum. He's probably town.

Kassadin:

I just skimmed through the posts made since last night. Kass is 99% town. As scum, he would not have admitted to skimming the thread.

Venmar:

the fact that he's pretty new makes him an easier read. He didn't bandwagon on me with the bloc thing and gave a different opinion on it, plus the general disagreeing with the crowd over it.

Darkling:

He found (good) reasons that I could be town or scum due to the bait, when he could easily slip one way or the other as scum. It's like fencesitting, but in a towny way because it's unnecessary. He also didn't really push anyone until later, when there was plenty of opportunity to before.

MattP:

Townslipped, already explained.

Good enough?

[kondi2424]

Yeah, the Venmar read sucked. I remembered finding a REALLY good reason for why he was town, and couldn't find it again when you asked me to explain. -_-

I stand by my read of Darkling, however. I think he looks genuine.

What about Kassadin?

[kondi2424]

That was me that endgamed him.

And quite the opposite, BK. He's too easy to read.

[kondi2424]

Yeah, but were he scum, he WOULD NOT admit to skimming. He would try to look as helpful as he possibly could.

[kondi2424]

But that kinda goes against the policy of lynching people you think are scum.

[kondi2424]

I'm thinking he's probably going to get lynched sometime anyways.

Why should I PL him over lynching someone who I think is scum?

[kondi2424]

Explain? I don't necessarily disagree, but still.

PEdit: Meh. I've never actually taken part in a PL. Let's do it. VOTE: Kassadin

[kondi2424]

Good call, vijay. UNVOTE:

[kondi2424]

Matt, like I said, I'm not retarded. If he were my buddy, I would have bussed that shit to next week. I want to see if there are any Fith Healer CCs first.

[kondi2424]

If there's a counterclaim, we're not lynching Kass. Unless Kass is that counterclaim.

I expect an apology when Kass flips town.

[kondi2424]

I really don't understand why you suspect me, Psyche.

[kondi2424]

Meh, Matt is annoying me, and BK is a scum lynch. VOTE: BK

[kondi2424]

VOTE: Kondi

But I thought you were hellbent on a Kass lynch? You might never get to again, you know.

[kondi2424]

I don't get the scumslip.

[kondi2424]

@Matt: There is no lie there. I unvoted because I would vote any CC over Kass. I then changed my mind on lynching Kassadin after you went apeshit and decided lynching scum was a better idea.

@shotgun: Why do you think I'm scum?

[kondi2424]

@shotgun, vijay, and OmNom: Make SURE these guys listen to my reads when I'm dead.

The following people ARE TOWN, AND WILL ALWAYS BE TOWN: Kassadin, vijay, OmNom, Darkling, Venmar

The following people ARE TOWN DUE TO CLAIMS AND TOWNSLIPS AND SHIT, BUT IF EVER CC'D/DISPROVEN SHOULD DIE ASAP: shotgun, MattP, Psyche

The following people ARE SCUMMY FUCKS AND SHOULD DIE VERY SOON: BK

The following people ARE THE LEFTOVERS: Trollie, Chrimi, morton

I am almost 100% positive everything in this list is true. I also demand that we make sure no one counterclaims FH before we lynch me.

[kondi2424]

I know what the fuck I'm doing, and I'm leading shit around here if I'm getting lynched.

Shotgun, don't waste an investigation on BK. Just lynch him tomorrow. Instead, investigate in this pool of players: {Kassadin, Trollie, Chrimi, morton}, from least preferred to most preferred.

[kondi2424]

Also, I request the honors of hammering myself.

[kondi2424]

Psyche, I'm guessing your four are Venmar, BK, Morton, and Chrimi?

[kondi2424]

Well, then ge me off of L-1. I have more shit to discuss.

Shotgun, unvote.

[kondi2424]

Someone make a list with people who have confirmed not being a FH. I can't, I'm on my phone.

Psyche, shotgun searching BK would be useless. I'm demanding his lynch tomorrow regardless.

[kondi2424]

Nope. I am being lynched today. You guys are not going to follow my reads unless I die. I'm happy with gathering a case on BK, but you guys are going to lynch him regardless.

PEdit: shotgun, what game are you referring to?

[kondi2424]

But that was when I knew I was screwed and it would help Elmo.

[kondi2424]

Why do you want me at L-1?

Someone still needs to make the list of people who have claimed FH.

[kondi2424]

Some people haven't posted since vijay's claim.

[kondi2424]

Psyche, you are lynching BK tomorrow. Period.

[kondi2424]

It seems that Kassadin, morton, Chrimi, Trollie, and Darkling all haven't posted since vijay's claim.

[kondi2424]

Matt, what about when I flip town?

[kondi2424]

Vijay, let me die.

By the way, on the slim chance I'm wrong about BK, Morton is confirmed scum. I think a Morton investigation is a great investigation.

[kondi2424]

I did NOT lie.

[kondi2424]

...fuck...

I apologize, BK. You are probably town. UNVOTE:

Let me think about this.

[kondi2424]

Morton, Chrimi, & Trollie?

Or, Trollie is a FH, and Psyche is scum?

[kondi2424]

Shotgun, investigate BK tonight.

[kondi2424]

You're being wishy-washy, and it's giving me a HUGE town vibe.

I'll take investigation if you guys agree to listen to my reads. And let me take part in this sweet bloc.

[kondi2424]

BK, I can ensure OmNom town.

[kondi2424]

I'm talking about after the day is over. I'm still gonna be a stalker and vote with you guys, though.

[kondi2424]

What's Morton at?

[kondi2424]

VOTE: morton

[kondi2424]

Shotgun, you're on me tonight. Faith Healers, if unCCed, should decide amongst themselves who gets the protection.

[kondi2424]

By the way, I accept the title of Exiled Founder.

[kondi2424]

Oh and Kassadin is banned, even though we all know he's town

[kondi2424]

But I think he's town now.

[kondi2424]

Morton is at L-1.

[kondi2424]

@Psyche: morton's null, which means scum here, because there are only four people I'm not sure on.

@Kassadin: Please claim.

[kondi2424]

I mean, are you just a VT, Kass?

[kondi2424]

MY FUCKING GOD

THIS IS WHY WE DON'T HAMMER LIKE THIS VIJAY

Vijay is town. VIJAY WILL PROTECT SHOTGUN. Both Psyche and Chrimi will protect vijay.

[kondi2424]

Shotgun, either Psyche or Chrimi will do. It's probay Psyche, as Chrimi had no reason AT ALL to claim at this point.

[kondi2424]

No, Psyche. I don't care if you're town or not. VIJAY IS TOWN. He is protecting shotgun tonight.

Chrimi, that was vijay's fault.

[kondi2424]

It is you, isn't it Chrimi?

Makes sense, you're getting most all the PRs killed at the cost of one member.

About 50-50 on Psyche and Chrimi.

PEdit: That's better.

Vijay is protecting shotgun and getting all protection.

[kondi2424]

Shotgun you are not scanning vijay. You know he's town. Scan Chrimi if you had to, but Psyche is best.

[kondi2424]

Psyche, are you willing to compromise on a Chrimi scan and you saving vijay?

Chrimi, you willing to get scanned?

[kondi2424]

Shotgun, either Psyche or Chrimi will do. It's probay Psyche, as Chrimi had no reason AT ALL to claim at this point.

Why the hell is it Psyche or Chrimi for you instead of Pysche or Vjay. That makese no sense from a town pov.

I know vijay is town, so it's Psyche or Chrimi.

[kondi2424]

It's suicidal, but gets rid of the PRs.

And I already explained vijay town. Twice.

PEdit: Sorry morton.

[kondi2424]

Psyche, you can't AtE like the kondi

[kondi2424]

I can agree to a vijay-Psyche double-protect on shotgun, long as Chrimi is on vijay.

[kondi2424]

This is a win-win. We either end up with shotgun alive, both FHs staying alive, or both.

Psyche, what's the point of this if you're town? We have a Cop.

[kondi2424]

@Dark: Are you going to claim FH too?

[kondi2424]

FMPOV it's Chrimi or Psyche. From everyone else's POV it's vijay or Psyche.

Guess what would make everyone happy?

[kondi2424]

Morton, Kassadin was the default PL.

PEdit: -_-

A Psyche investigation would meet everyone's demands.

[kondi2424]

So a scan between Vijay and Psyche wouldn't make a difference, as you get the same info, right?

[kondi2424]

If a scan between vijay and Psyche doesn't make a difference to you guys, then scanning Psyche shouldn't be a problem.

Chrimi will probably die tonight, BK.

[kondi2424]

Tell you what. If Psyche comes up inno, I'll allow vijay to be lynched. Deal?

[kondi2424]

Fuck you guys. Shotgun, scan whoever the hell you want. When vijay turns up town, you guys can forget to say sorry.

[kondi2424]

Just remember that vijay started out looking like the town one of the bunch, and it got twisted during this conversation.

[kondi2424]

You guys are going to lynch Psyche when vijay turns town, right?

Then let's do it.

[kondi2424]

Hey Chrimi, where over the course of the last few pages did you get convinced that it was vijay over Psyche?

At least I'm being consistent here.

PEdit: vijay, terrible idea. Then shotgun won't be protected.

[kondi2424]

It's also fun to note that Psyche stopped calling himself oh so town after I called him out on it.

[kondi2424]

Hah, I'm such an idiot? You've resorted to insulting my intelligence?

That's low, Psyche. Low and unnecessary.

PEdit: Yes.

Chrimi protects shotgun, other protects Chrimi.

[kondi2424]

Both Chrimi and vijay are not protecting shotgun.

THe vast majority agrees that Chrimi is town. Suck it up and protect him.

PEdit: All is forgiven. I take personal attacks badly, though. Remember that.

[kondi2424]

Soul

wavelengths? (cookie for reference)

[kondi2424]

@OmNom: (::)

@vijay: You are protecting Chrimi.

[kondi2424]

I'm confused now... Psyche is looking town.

[kondi2424]

Yeah, my phone is dying, it's 12:30, and I've been at this for hours. I'll leave... sometime later.

[kondi2424]

@Chrimi: Consider I'm town. What do you think about this game?

[kondi2424]

Same question Psyche: Suppose I'm town. What do you think about this game? Who would your suspects be?

[kondi2424]

WHAT THE FUCK

Guys, you aren't gonna like this... I misread my Role PM. I'm the Cop.

[kondi2424]

LOL, it was a joke, as shown by the laughing face.

[kondi2424]

Yeah I'm tired. It was pretty funny though.

[kondi2424]

So you think I'm just terribly mistaken on vijay, Psyche?

[kondi2424]

Psyche... you used to be right. You used to have a town read on vijay. -_-

[kondi2424]

I kinda want to be wrong. This has been like a bro night with me, Psyche, and Chrimi.

[kondi2424]

OmNom beat you to it! Sorry But you get awesomeness points.

[kondi2424]

Whoever the scum is, they're doing pretty great for a martyr. I mean, they're gonna die anyway, so...

Still leaning on Psyche being scum.

Shutting up now.

[kondi2424]

Nope OmNom, shotgun investigates vijay/Psyche. You're overruled.

[kondi2424]

Yes it is. I've lost all sense, and can only rely on previous thought to guide me.

PEdit: Trollie and... someone else.

[kondi2424]

I'm reading people in relation to the three FHs. Trollie actually makes a great partner to all three of you.

[kondi2424]

Venmar is not Chrimi's partner but works for vijay and Psyche. He's town, though.

BK isn't vijay's partner but works for Psyche and Chrimi. He's back in my null list.

If Dark is scum, I think his team is Trollie and vijay. I also think forgetting vijay in #912 could have been a buddy-slip, but it's not big.

Can't really read anyone else's.

[kondi2424]

Thanks. Now I'm going to SLEEEEEEEP

[kondi2424]

Yeah, Chrimi, that's what you don't understand. As scum, you could gain a LOT by claiming.

Thanks for twisting me, guys. It's probably Chrimi.

[kondi2424]

SCUM speculation does no harm. That's kinda what we're supposed to do.

[kondi2424]

@Trollie's case: Notice that vijay ALSO mentioned the FH's CCing in his post. That's why I unvoted, not because Kassadin could be investigated.

Anyway, let me sort through this.

[kondi2424]

Hey BK did you read anything I just said?

[kondi2424]

So from my POV, there's six possible scum left:
Kassadin
Venmar
Darkling
BK
Trollie
MattP

Darkling is the only one of these six I'm 100% sure is town. I'm losing faith in Kassadin and MattP. BUT, there's a really easy way we could play this out now. Lynch useless unconfirmeds, cop useful unconfirmeds. I'll offer to get copped tonight.

Psyche should be on shotgun, Chrimi should be on Psyche. Vijay (or Chrimi) needs to be a sacrifice tonight. I think we should take the seven unconfirmed players and put them in two groups: one that is not as useful and could be lynched, and one that is useful and wanted to be kept alive, the copped group. The four confirmed players can agree on who to put in each group.

The usefulness of this is that we basically get a lynch every day AND every night, while keeping players that could potentially be useful but are not confirmed alive if they're town. My personal preference would be for Matt, Darkling, and myself to be in the copping group, while Kassadin, Venmar, BK, and Trollie are the lynching group, but it's the confirmeds' choice.

Sound good?

I'd also like to point out that I've been pushed as two confirmed town's partners repeatedly on Day One (shotgun and vijay).

I'm going to look for strange reactions during the three-claim madness.

[kondi2424]

Oops, I forgot to include OmNom on my list. But he's town.

[kondi2424]

What OMGUS?

[kondi2424]

Anyway, based on reactions to the three-claim madness (patenting that), the only major reactions that I get are that BK is town and MattP is scum.

[kondi2424]

I know what OMGUS is, but I didn't do it.

[kondi2424]

What changed was you became one of the only people left unconfirmed in a pool of people I had "HUGE town vibes" on.

[kondi2424]

wut

My top suspects for all three scum are either Matt/Trollie/Venmar or Matt/Trollie/Kassadin.

[kondi2424]

I apologize, Matt. But I still haven't gotten any apologies on my calling of vijay-town.

VOTE: Venmar

oh and you're scum

Investigate me, shotgun.

PEdit: Trollie, treat anything that Venmar says up to this point as WIFOM.

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Yes, I do. You see, you have pretty much no risk of being lynched tomorrow. However, I have MUCH risk of being lynched tomorrow.

And when I'm confirmed town, you might have a better chance of being lynched tomorrow.

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You actually have a point, Matt, considering the only person strongly pushing me is my top scumread.

Matt, who do you think Venmar's buddies are? If you aren't scum, it'd have to be Trollie and Kassadin.

[kondi2424]

So we agree on Trollie?

So it's safe to say that Trollie is an acceptable Cop target tonight?

[kondi2424]

Venmar claimed scum. Don't vote him, though.

Also Trollie is an awesome investigation target, as well as Matt. But mostly Trollie.

[kondi2424]

We're lynching Venmar because he's claimed scum and that's what you do with claimed scum.

Seriously. If shotgun got a guilty on someone, would we keep them alive to find the others? No. We would lynch scum.

[kondi2424]

Hey Venmar what do you think about Kassadin?

[kondi2424]

We lynch Venmar and you scan Trollie, unless you decide to scam someone else.

[kondi2424]

I think that was hammer.

[kondi2424]

No because it's WIFOM

[kondi2424]

We should keep Psyche alive. You've got to admit that he's been pretty helpful.

And I'm fine with being scanned if you think it's necessary.

[kondi2424]

No. If I was, who would my partner be?

[kondi2424]

I meant besides Venmar, Chrimi.

Shotgun, please answer the question. Who would my partner be?

[kondi2424]

Do you think Om is scum, Chrimi?

PEdit: You guys connected me to both shotgun and vijay. Who are confirmed town.

[kondi2424]

Because there was a claimed scum...